: Can we please acknowledge Talon in the lore already? You even gave MALPHITE a lore update before him
Also can my man Talon get an actual good skin. At least by splash arts they are all horrible and look nothing like he looks like in his normal splash art. He goes from being a bad ass handsome man to a fucking kpop star. And it's not even just one skin in EVERY SKIN he looks like a kpop star. The in game models are a bit better but I could never in good faith use a talon skin because I would hate for people to think I actually like the splash art.
: Because you cant actually tank from support with any of those champs, due to low income and garbage itemization. If it was viable to be a main tank from the support role, I wouldn't have written this post. Yea some of them can tank in a 2v2 situation in the early game, but come late game, they just get exploded just as fast as anyone else.
Then play top lane tanks. No one says you HAVE to play support tanks.
: Riot, if you only have one takeaway from this season, please let it be this
Why dont you just play tanks yourself? You call other people edgelords for not playing tanks but you yourself are not playing tanks...
: > [{quoted}](name=Doopliss7,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7kRMea5d,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2019-10-20T19:22:54.803+0000) > > ap malphite is pretty much an assassin, you can dodge his ultimate since its a SKILLSHOT and he's fucked from that alone. > you either play someone with mobility or just flash his ult. you can even stop watch or spell shield it. > > also i can confirm that building MR like maw can fuck over his oneshot unless he's fed to shit. In the elo i play in which is gold people don't have the brainpower to know how to play against him, and just saying "flash his ult" is just a copout excuse because he gets hid ult down to 60 seconds you cant flash every 60 seconds, and people don't exactly use vision very well in low/mid elo which makes him extremely oppressive. Imagine trying to get 5 dumbasses (self included) to ward flanks when you are pushing out of tower range. not paying attention for 2 seconds and boop your ADC is gone in the blink of an eye and suddenly you can't fight back.
God it annoys me so bad when people dont understand how to play the game. So malphite goes balls deep into your team but misses his ult because of flash zhonyas dashes GA whatever. Do you really just let him walk away and wait for his ult cooldown? Like wtf? No, you force a fight and win it because malphite is now .1 of a champion. You then proceed to take objectives ( baron ) and win the game.
: state of gold 4 is disgusting
I've been saying it for a while, the best way to climb is to play adc, so you don't have to deal with garbage adc players on your team. Look at the diana game your adc didnt even do 10k damage in a 35 minute game and the other game they had 16 deaths.
Yenn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YkIh9W7o,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-19T22:35:26.860+0000) > > i think he means the fact klepto didnt go its 'gold lead' job. I'm demonstrating that he's acting as a punching bag for me and not taking any lasting damage. > [{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YkIh9W7o,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-19T22:34:01.661+0000) > > You deserve every horrible thing that can possibly happen in game. > > Garen's passive requires him to not take player damage for some time. Unless he backs of far away, you can cancel it. And if he does back up, he will miss cs and lane control He clears the wave, eats my combo with Courage, and backs off to regen with his 3 rejuv beads. There is no interaction and no punishment for face tanking my combo. Contrary to popular belief, ranged champions without life steal can't just auto melee champions 24/7 without consideration for the minion wave.
IainG10 (EUW)
: 'Some time' is now 6s at all levels, and isn't stopped by minion damage like it used to be. If a ranged Top's skillshots get blocked by minions, it's not too hard to get Garen's regen going (though this usually involves sacrificing some farm, it's usually also less than you lose by having to recall) Edit: People have informed me it was changed to monster damage a long time ago, and I just never noticed. This does not change my point that avoiding champion damage for less than 10s is not too hard if you play smart. Also worth pointing out; if you lose to him as Kennen I have no sympathy, because you CAN make avoiding damage for the requisite amount of time hard with that champion.
Yenn (NA)
: I'm playing Kennen against Garen. I have 615 gold from Klepto at 10 minutes. He's at 100% HP.
Woah its almost like melee champions win against ranged ones in melee range WOAH that blows your tiny ranged top laner mind doesnt it? {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
Keiaga (NA)
: All juggernauts are inherently tanky without runes. Some of them are tanky without heals likes {{champion:82}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:86}} . Just now you used the term "Tankiness" as a quality of being "hard to kill" and not as a quality of having any of the traits you previously listed are mandatory for tanks like CC, initiation or ally shielding. All the champions I listed are obviously not tanks, but they all have the qualities you're insisting are integral for tanks. {{champion:79}} has a slow, a stun, a passive heal and a displacement in his kit. {{champion:555}} also has a slow, a stun, a passive heal, and a displacement in his kit. Why is Gragas a tank and not pyke? If it's because Gragas also has inherent bulk and is hard to kill then why isn't {{champion:122}} a tank even though he also has a slow, a displacement, and a heal in his kit? Meanwhile {{champion:32}} has 2 stuns in his kit and is a tank. But for some reason {{champion:106}} is not a tank even though he has a displacement, and a slow/fear. If tanks are dictated by how much cc/initiation/ shielding in their kits there's a whole lot of exceptions, confusion, and conditions. But if you think of a tank as "a champion that is hard to kill due to health and resistances" then everything suddenly makes sense. you're also wrong about your tangent in the last paragraph, but lets keep things focused.
Volibear is a tank though and gragas isnt...
Bread Pit (EUW)
: Can you make Janna's Shield give Adaptive Power instead of just AD?
Janna is already pretty strong. She has a high winrate and does what she does well. The only reason she isnt complained about is because shes an enchanter support.
: Yasuo windwall is buggy dogsht should be removed
: Please, Riot, Can you not put unranked players with experienced players?
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LanceTheMighty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J2UF0Ojz,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-19T09:53:47.386+0000) > > Since neither of the feeders or the people getting fed are in your lane it's just RNG at that point. Are they good enough to carry and are they playing good champs to carry? I mean...yeah, that is kind of the risk you run when queueing with randoms?
So the games just chance, okay thanks for telling me.
: Can we please have a dynamic meta again?
> [{quoted}](name=Whisper87,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MxpQfTQQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-18T20:37:00.667+0000) > > Let me first start out by saying I've been playing League since season 2, and I've seen a lot come and go in terms of the meta. And right now I love that we got champion diversity back to a certain degree this season. Pretty wide support pool, mage bots are a thing AT WORLDS. Jungle and ADC have gotten pinched a bit here in the back end of the season, but Top and Mid have quite a few options. Assassins and mages are both viable mid. Tanks top seem to be viable at the highest level of play alongside the standard bruiser & damage dealers we've seen so far this season. All around good stuff. > > But here's the issue that I think Riot should take a serious look at in the off season, and I would like as many as people as possible to weigh in on this because I think this is an issue that we've been kind of inching towards over the past 4 years or so and no one really noticed because it's crept up so slowly. It feels like right now, despite champ diversity, there is literally only 1 way to play the game. Every game the win condition feels the same. You try to snowball through early-mid game, take skirmishes to develop a strong lead, fall back on team fighting if you must. That's it. Over and over. And no, I'm not an idiot...I realize that this strat plays out differently from game to game. You wait for different champs to come online, sometimes you're more early game focused, sometimes more scaling. Sometimes slightly tankier lineups, etc etc. But that's the thing, it's still the same strat. It's just a different facade. The win condition is always the same. > > Let's take a look back at a short list of changes riot has made just to provide evidence: > > A fairly recent one is split pushing which has been nerfed out by a few different changes, but one of the biggest being the nerfs to teleport. Now split pushing really only exists as a way to apply pressure for the above mentioned skirmishing, and for solo laners to soak up farm after the lane phase has broken down. Split pushing as a win condition, as in like, "Guys our goal is to get Jax/Fiora online, then we just have to not lose while they split push into oblivion". That's really not a thing anymore. Split pushing can exist as a part of a strat, but not as THE strat. I think TSM won like 2 games this season with a dedicated full on 1-3-1 and that was only because they got shit on early game and had no other choice against sub-par teams. Those are outliers. > > Poke comps. Dedicate poke/siege comps have just been unbelievably gutted. Apparently Ezreal is the only attack damage champ who is allowed to be a dedicated poke champ...ever. Any time another contender rises up it's nerfed into the ground. Corki? Swapped to AP damage, and then damage moved from poke to burst. Jayce? Poke build nerfed into oblivion, only viable as a lane bully bruiser. Varus? Scaling punished so hard that if you go poke instead of on-hit build with him you better cause a 15-20 min surrender. Even in mid lane only 1 poke champ is ever really a top tier pick if any are at all. This season we had Zoe. Not both Zoe and Lux are serviceable at best. While some may say that Riot has been targeting champs individually and nerfing ones that are unhealthy...I've come to believe they are trying to keep a tight limit on the number of poke champs in the game to intentionally squeeze that out of the game as a full strat. It's fairly common knowledge that poke becomes exponentially stronger the more people you have on the team doing it. The fact that burst damage and engage have been getting more and more emphasis also is an indirect nerf to poke/siege for obvious reasons. > > Support style jungling. Playing a style that focuses on stealing camps, controlling vision, and protecting lanes to scale up for team fighting over ganking. No longer a thing. Nunu was allowed to do it for like 1 split, Ivern was allowed to do it for like 1 split, Lee Sin was allowed to do it for like a full season. Bet then no mas. Completely gutted by vision changes, introduction of river crab, turret plates...etc. > > Double enchanter comps? Heck no. Karma top/mid has been a thing on and off, but acting more as a lane bully than as a secondary support. Janna coupled with a solo lane Lulu/Karma and a hypercarry, just not allowed to be a thing anymore. Remember that sick EU comp with Kayle and Nidalee coupled with a hypercarry ADC like Kog or Jinx and a single tank? All the heals/shields with attack speed buff 4 protect 1 comp. Also gutted. > > I'm sure you guys can think of more, and please feel free to include them in responses. But the point here is it's clear RIot has been moving towards a "There is only one way to play the game" system and we need to fight to show them that's not what we want. It's boring. We want options to be able to opt into a variety of win conditions. We want team strat coutnerpicking, not just specific champion matchup counterpicking. We'd like to have both low and high kill games. When someone comes up with a new creative way to win the game, we need to support it, not poo poo it. Yes there are times when a single strat becomes so strong it just becomes the best hands down if you are good at it and can get the right champs (such as the funneling strat). But those situations are very few and far between. Let's fight for diversity yall! Please upvote or reply if you agree! Split pushing is BORING like actually I dislike the entire idea, game should be 5v5 teamfights for objectives.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LanceTheMighty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J2UF0Ojz,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-19T06:40:12.027+0000) > > If your laner is building full tank / playing safe and not allowing you to kill them, and your team is feeding in other lanes, there really isnt anything you can do to win. If you get fed yourself you can carry but not when you are forced to go even in lane kills wise. If they are playing safe and not allowing themselves to die, then they also aren't making plays to kill you correct, also, if that is the case, what is stopping you from doing the same thing to once again carry if both of you have feeders? Why does their feeder not count and only yours does?
Since neither of the feeders or the people getting fed are in your lane it's just RNG at that point. Are they good enough to carry and are they playing good champs to carry?
Saezio (EUNE)
: In this meta you can easily kill anyone BEFORE they have bought a single item. You can kill at levels 2-3-4-5 easily with how high damage is
This is just is absolutely not true unless your opponent doesnt know how to play the game. Or gets dived which rarely happens pre6.
Jamaree (NA)
: Doesn't your opponent have to deal with that as well. So if you are both dealing with feeders and they are able to carry and you can't, doesn't that mean they are better then you? Edit: Now that I think about it, doesn't this analogy kind of fall apart in the grand scheme of things because if Frieza decided to use his massive power over the other Z fighters at the start instead of wasting his time gloating at how much stronger he was, ie, using his advantage to end the game, he wouldn't have given Goku the time to get his several Zenkai boost. Seriously, Frieza could have went to each village, quickly get the dragonball, not waste time trying to boost his ego and KDA, gotten the balls, then dipped before Goku had time to get there, or even Krillin and Gohan had he not gloated, gotten his scouters blown up, continued to waste time after he got the new scouters from the Ginyus, continued to waste MORE time fighting a person going average instead of getting the dragonballs (fighting Nail instead of you know...doing what he planned to do, AS WELL as bothering to follow him for like an hour, ie being baited into a chase), and then waste even MORE time not using his full strength and then again wasting even MORE time not immediately killing the Z Fighters who he was clearly stronger then by playing around more BEFORE KILLING HIMSELF in the end. So are you saying that you waste time not ending the game to instead pad your KDA and boost your ego?
If your laner is building full tank / playing safe and not allowing you to kill them, and your team is feeding in other lanes, there really isnt anything you can do to win. If you get fed yourself you can carry but not when you are forced to go even in lane kills wise.
jovack (NA)
: Forced Autocast skills (standardize everything please)
Dude go into your settings and just click autocast off. And bam you will always be able to hold your spells.
: Honest Question! Do anyone enjoy this champions?
All those champs are pretty busted but I dont really think pyke is. In this oneshot or be oneshot world, pyke is a champion that can't ever oneshot but instead stops himself from being oneshot, and this somehow makes everyone angry.
: I like the old login more.
I like it ALOT more. I actually uninstalled and reinstalled the game to fix some issues and it let me use the old login one time. Made me really realize how terrible the new one is.
: Characters we hate and why
{{champion:17}} Don't want him on my team, dont want him on the enemies team, when hes on the enemy team my top laner always finds a way to get solokilled by him. When hes on my team he ints and loses lane despite being ignite teemo. {{champion:78}} {{champion:518}} Because they have annoying voice lines, I seriously wish there was a setting so I could only hear my champs voice lines.
: I really enjoy playing in the bot lane. I do not feel like I am free food. I believe bot lane is a lot of fun and I play it very well as a support. I'm also honor level 5 so people often compliment me. Obviously if all the negative things in this forum were true, then I would hate the game and quit. I just think a lot of players are toxic and salty.
Just saying you are likely honor level 5 because you play support.
iiGazeii (NA)
: I wish My Shop would take my purchases into account
What if it was the other way around. What if you already had a skin for say sylas and you wanted another one of his skins? OH WAIT HE ONLY HAS ONE SKIN WTF RIOT
5050BS (NA)
: And AD champs should have to give up damage to get 40% CDR
Well they kinda do, Triforce only has 25 AD and Black Cleaver only has 40. Spear of shojin is being removed and theres only 10% cdr on all the other items.
waypist (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LanceTheMighty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YPjYuiJY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-03T14:01:20.270+0000) > > This only happens in normals and bronze games bro. There are youtube videos of this happening in Challenger, at least in NA.
> [{quoted}](name=waypist,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YPjYuiJY,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-10-04T20:15:23.615+0000) > > There are youtube videos of this happening in Challenger, at least in NA. No there isnt, because by that time they would ff. Please do not lie out of your ass.
: > [{quoted}](name=LanceTheMighty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7GkmOAAA,comment-id=00090001,timestamp=2019-10-03T13:55:27.542+0000) > > "I decided to troll and feed this game" but i'm currently climbing so...
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7GkmOAAA,comment-id=000900010000,timestamp=2019-10-03T16:03:16.563+0000) > > but i'm currently climbing so... If the enemy team has a jungler with at least mediocore game knowledge you will be camped and be forced to feed whether you like it or not.
: I've been at Honor 2 Level 0 for over a year despite getting consistent honors almost every game.
> [{quoted}](name=Lil Uzis Bag,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iBWf1XMv,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-02T22:49:07.679+0000) > > Anybody have this problem? Or any kind of Riot input? > > I got banned briefly for making a bad man joke in a game like a couple years ago by now, and eventually after my honor unlocked I worked back up to max honor level (where I was before). I've been at Honor 2 Level 0 for a ridiculously long time, likely over a year, and I get at least 1, frequently 2, sometimes 3 and it's not extremely uncommon for me to get all 4 honors in a game, playing almost every day. Why haven't I made any progress whatsoever?? and can I please get some input from Riot if possible? > > Thanks guys Getting reported doesnt always result in a punishment, but it will still stop your honor climb. My recommendation is to just carry in normals / ranked and mute all and just say "good job" semi frequently.
: There needs to be extreme setbacks for winning teams that don't know how to end a game.
The Chained (EUNE)
: COMPREHENSIVE MID LANE LIST
Looks like somebody doesnt like the sylas matchup too much :)
: i play ekko in top lane cause i'm a ssssicko also qiyana what would you write for them?
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7GkmOAAA,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-10-02T16:44:05.642+0000) > > i play ekko in top lane cause i'm a ssssicko > also qiyana > what would you write for them? "I decided to troll and feed this game"
CLG ear (NA)
: You and your clone are confronted by a loved one with a gun. How do you prove you aren't the clone?
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RbQe0rG1,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-02T14:44:49.196+0000) > > Your clone is evil, but s/he knows everything you know and sounds exactly like you do. How do you do it? > > > https://i.imgur.com/Wwugs2Z.jpg[] > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOxspReyzOI I tell them to shoot me because anyone who likes the fate series doesnt deserve otherwise.
Mihalikb (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=KABLUMP,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mvXXpyQr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-29T22:59:53.433+0000) > > I undertstand this, which is why I think that more utility and options should be put into most champions in order to make that issue go away The ability bloat is the main reason why we are in this mess in the first place. The recent trend for reworks and especially new champions is baking in a million different stun, engage, dash, cc mechanics into every ability. Akali, Kaisa, Pyke, Kayle, Mordekaiser, Neeko, Qiyana, Aatrox are all glaring examples of this. Most notably Akali and Kaisa.
Mordekaiser? His Q only has damage, his w is a shield that he has to charge up, his e is a displacment (no stun or knockup) with a bit of damage and magic pen because AP bruiser itemization doesnt exist. His ult is basically a stat steriod and a gap closer, which he needs to function in teamfights. The others are correct though.
: Why does matchmaking come up with so many blowouts?
I think it's an inherent problem with the game and how players understand it. They think that the game is won in the laning phase, but thats hardly true. The laning phase just determines how strong you will be when you aram it up in mid. If you die a few times and lose a bit of cs, what does it matter? So what the enemy laner is slightly stronger and your slightly weaker than you could be. But theres 4 other teammates who could be doing well. They might not be entirely wrong though because if they are playing a champion like fiora or riven who dont have cc and teamfight poorly and they dont get ahead, they contribute nothing. But thats why you dont play those champions and play good champions instead :)
: Logic does not apply here
The logic is obviously there, the yasuo is trying to have fun, he wants to fight, he doesnt want to sit under tower and be poked while he tries to farm scraps. He wants to fight and have fun like any normal person, your the weirdo with no logic.
: > [{quoted}](name=Pumpedhero,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AVkQUAYv,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-09-13T05:03:56.391+0000) > > Yea well buff {{champion:92}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:28}}, but we gonna nerf {{champion:266}} because people cant move 2 steps over lmao.. Riot balance is a joke. Aatrox is an abomination with Deathdance rush because of his base healing. His E is also on a very low cooldown while also having W that you have to get out of. So it's not just 2 steps.
The only time aatrox should ever hit a w on you is if you get hit by the first q which means you already messed up.
: garen changes when?{{champion:86}}
garen changes when?{{champion:86}}

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