: > [{quoted}](name=LawlessMaker,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=QWuYy98m,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-28T03:41:23.800+0000) > > I'd give you this argument 8 to 10 or even 5 years ago but people look at pro gaming different now. Progaming is different now yes but the culture isn't. To get NA talent groomed and where they need to be requires support from their friends a family and to allow them time to practice and not be consumed with school and other things. Just my thoughts on the subject tho i really think it needs to be more accepted and people can actually see a future in it.
No, that would be stupid, every sport in NA is connected to school. I think Schools need to make gaming a official sport instead of small club events created and funed by members and their family. I.E look at Big Ten, I'm thinking that but wider, the talent in the B1G isn't that good.
: Nah fam its because NA parents and the calture of NA doesn't support gaming in general they think only little kids should be playing.
I'd give you this argument 8 to 10 or even 5 years ago but people look at pro gaming different now.
Rioter Comments
NY64 (NA)
: I’m not a fan of how they’ve changed the game either but here is my explanation on why they have made them. They made it this way because in the past, as soon as the game was going downhill for one team, they would simply turtle until everyone had all their completed items, and thus were back on an even playing field. Riot has made the game more high stakes to punish turtling by doing stuff like, objectives giving better rewards, turrets being weaker. Damage being higher so it’s better to be ahead, weakening defensive options in the game such as items and peel champions.
Talking in pro or in general? Cause in general turtling is still an effective strategy.. Throw in a baron steal and boom, game even.
Amni (NA)
: Can we please stop crying about Yuumi
Once they nerf, she will be useless, but rack up the wins in her current state, can't deny she is good right now..
Baa Woof (EUW)
: Is there a way to hide my mastery points?
This so bad... Really annoying, especially so when I didn't win lane... Here comes the.. 'You have _ Mastery points, why aren't you a god?' So annoying.. And you can really tell when the enemy don't want you to get ahead, i.e the jug literally babysits the enemy lane, to point, they start losing other lanes cause he tunnel visions your lane..
: She has average mana costs. Her resource is maintained by both her passive and her core item {{item:3174}} Spamming abilities against a good Yuumi in lane phase is not "applying pressure". That's called shoving.
> [{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EOyzaiiH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-04T17:32:55.549+0000) > > She has average mana costs. Her resource is maintained by both her passive and her core item {{item:3174}} > > Spamming abilities against a good Yuumi in lane phase is not "applying pressure". That's called shoving. We weren't spamming. Walk up, make them walk back, engage, almost get kill.. Also creep lead as well, also made their jug come a few times.. I'd say that's good pressure.
SirEnds (NA)
: {{champion:141}} assassin with hard cc (knock up) {{champion:107}} assassin with hard cc (root) {{champion:245}} assassin with hard cc and yes he is an assassin (link below proves this) {{champion:555}} assassin with a stun and hook that slightly knocks up enemies {{champion:28}} assassin with charm {{champion:35}} assassin with fears {{champion:80}} assassin with stun (also this is an assassin) also check this out before saying {{champion:245}} isn't an assassin https://www.google.com/search?q=lol+assassins&rlz=1CAEAQE_enUS815&oq=lol+assassins&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2352j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
> [{quoted}](name=SirEnds,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HTyw9TEv,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-03T15:15:12.933+0000) > > {{champion:141}} assassin with hard cc (knock up) > {{champion:107}} assassin with hard cc (root) > {{champion:245}} assassin with hard cc and yes he is an assassin (link below proves this) > {{champion:555}} assassin with a stun and hook that slightly knocks up enemies > {{champion:28}} assassin with charm > {{champion:35}} assassin with fears > {{champion:80}} assassin with stun (also this is an assassin) > > > also check this out before saying {{champion:245}} isn't an assassin > https://www.google.com/search?q=lol+assassins&rlz=1CAEAQE_enUS815&oq=lol+assassins&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2352j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Top 4 have slows as well.
Rioter Comments
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: For fuck sake make up your mind about ADCS
Absolutely untrue. MOST of the regular ADC's are not viable.
Yenn (NA)
: I'm 17-2-10 Vel'koz and I literally cannot do anything late game because everyone is moving so fast
There's like three AP items that have slows I can think of off top of my head.. {{item:3116}} {{item:3030}} {{item:3905}}
Kei143 (NA)
: > So what am I to do when a summoner does this The inting fizz you can report him for griefing. Nid... probably nothing. That said, people don't just randomly grief. You know the truth of what happened.
Nothing... it was a quiet game... me and bot were dominating then boom.. calls us trash, singled out the Vayne who was in her series by saying 'Especially vayne'.. It was out of the blue... I thought it was gonna be a situation where he trolls for a bit but then just stops and starts being productive for us but nope... No one was toxic verbally as no one talked at all, even when he called us trash... tho I raged in the after match chat..
Rioter Comments
BigFBear (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=LawlessMaker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gU09k4At,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-06-16T14:51:56.380+0000) > > They quitting cause this season sucks. I quit playing ADC recently cause it's legit the worse role right now... It use to be when you were a 8/2 adc, you were top dmg, top priority too kill and just unstoppable unless you played stupid... Now... unless the game goes super late, you rely so heavy on your team it makes no sense... Well... Actually i think that any role should rely on the team. I always hated it that ADCs decided games so much. A fed Vayne could literally 1:9 in lategame. Tell me one Bruiser who could do that. It was always frustrating when own botlane was bad and enemy ADC was 3:0 in the first 6 minutes cause game was already lost in 90% of the time. When own top or mid was bad you could still win game but not bot. Rest of the team was only there to peel the "chess-queen" ADC. I mean, it's even in the name: AD-"Carry". Why can't every role carry equally good if fed?? I think right-click-autohit-hyper-carry's are a bad design-decision in general cause they are/was(?) too op and important in late game.
I can name plenty. Obvious is Darius, Aatrox, a garen, a mundo, a Irelia. And if you got an mid us to be ahead, it's the same thing that happens now, that Fed mid could solo the fed Bot, if he got too the adc. But this time it's 100% easier cause the ADC won't have enough early dmg to do much damage.
Chermorg (NA)
: You aren't reporting them to police, you're going around the neighborhood telling everyone **they** also must call the police for you, even if they don't want to or didn't see it. **MULTIPLE REPORTS DO NOT RESULT IN FASTER REVIEW**. The Instant Feedback System reviews **any** reports within 15 minutes after game's end and issues appropriate punishment. More reviews do not decrease this time, nor do more reviews result in a higher chance of punishment. Punishment is based on behavior, not reports.
No, it's more like going to your next door neighbor who is outside and saw the egging and asking him to be your witness. Ok, and if you get multiple reports saying a person BEHAVED this why. they know what to look for. And again, I disagree with the method.
Kei143 (NA)
: It falls under harassment.
It does not. It's like reporting someone to police with some witnesses for someone continuously egging your house., then saying I'm harassing said person. Gtfo.
Kei143 (NA)
: If you want to report someone. Do it yourself. We've already told you that 1 report = 9 reports. You'll fill yourself with anxiety if you don't listen to others and make things up yourself.
It obviously does not. So as I said, I disagree with that method.
: For clarity, this is the full changelist: Alpha Strike (Q) cost lowered from 70/75/80/85/90 to 50/55/60/65/70 [Removed] No longer deals bonus damage to minions The mana cost reduction is a compensation since him no longer dealing bonus damage to minions will hurt. That said, we're still currently testing these changes and may explore other options.
Lmao will hurt who? He is a jungle... By the time he starts farming mins regularly, he should have a few items that'll make clearing easy... Plus his Q..
: Botlane and the game in general has never seen this much diversity in a long time.
When ya'll start seeing Marksmen champs in your lanes, especailly top and get rekted, don't start crying, cause I will be here to gloat.
: >Well it's not a option in game. As an option in the game it would fall under "Harassment".
Telling others to report a troll is not harassment. And further more, another example of a person who doesn't report the troll but instead reports the victim of the troll. And if anything, it's griefing and even then, you are reaching..
: >Dude, that's board rules... Not in game report feature.. I took what I quoted directly from this: https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/ And that applies to in game behavior. >I simply will disagree with that. I bet a guy with high amount of reports get reviewed first before a guy with one. I linked to a quote from a Riot employee. One that oversees the actual code behind the report feature.
Well it's not a option in game. And I will disagree with their methods.
: Once again, I pulled "Drive Constructive Feedback", "Facilitate Civil Discussion" and, "Be Resolute, not Indignant" from here; https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/ And it most certainly applies to in-game behavior
No it doesn't, that's not a report feature in game.
: No. That's the guy in charge of the in game player behavior systems. And that is him talking about the in game report system.
And I will still disagree with that. If a guy with 18 reports spanning from two separate games or across multiple doesn't get reviewed first, I disagree with their methods. Also the guy i replied too used Board rules when I'm talking in game.
: >No it isn't, under which category is it in? Personally I believe it violates "Drive Constructive Feedback", "Facilitate Civil Discussion" and, "Be Resolute, not Indignant" >And no it does not. And it makes a big difference, multiple people reporting a troll will cause that troll to get punished quicker and hopefully help people not get trolled in the future or that troll changes his ways, after getting punished of course. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/f/ZGEFLEUQ/d/HALtvP5a?comment=00000000000000010000000000000000000100000001 > [{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HALtvP5a,comment-id=00000000000000010000000000000000000100000001,timestamp=2018-04-24T21:45:22.296+0000) > > 'Ganging up on' someone via reports doesn't do anything. 1 report is the same as 9. More reports does not increase the chance of a game being reviewed. All it takes is a single report.
Dude, that's board rules... Not in game report feature.. I simply will disagree with that. I bet a guy with high amount of reports get reviewed first before a guy with one.
UKP LK (NA)
: Ppl quitting league ? Is it just me ???
They quitting cause this season sucks. I quit playing ADC recently cause it's legit the worse role right now... It use to be when you were a 8/2 adc, you were top dmg, top priority too kill and just unstoppable unless you played stupid... Now... unless the game goes super late, you rely so heavy on your team it makes no sense...
Pika Fox (NA)
: 1) calling for reports is punishable 2) 1 report has the same weight as 9. As long as YOU report them it makes no difference it anyone else does or not.
No it isn't, under which category is it in? And no it does not. And it makes a big difference, multiple people reporting a troll will cause that troll to get punished quicker and hopefully help people not get trolled in the future or that troll changes his ways, after getting punished of course.
Rioter Comments
GigglesO (NA)
: So adc's might be trash...
BUT WE CAN'T EVEN KITE!! We get exploded in two hits or burned down so low we gotta flash away from the a fight or/and heal... And that's all in 0.1 seconds.... so really, unless ahead, we are just Super caster minions..
: > [{quoted}](name=JavelinJoe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EAlRc6w4,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-14T00:54:31.069+0000) > > While a kill is better than letting them go, a kill on a carry is much more valuable than on a utility support who does not need a lot of gold. i dont disagree but for someone saying its my kill or whatever is kinda incorrect. even if a support ends up with a kill the adc typically gets asst gold and not only that in lane that enemy that died cant cs/farm gain experience while the adc who didnt get the kill cuz "my support ksed " does still get cs/gold and experience so its best to get the "carry " the kill/gold but its best the kill gets secured. but then again people think the game is about kills instead of map control and objectives. kills just allow you opportunity to control map and objectives to win
No kills allow to you to item spike earlier. You can be 1/1/13 and the enemy 5/2/3... I'n willing to bet the enemy with 5 kills win the trade between the two and or does more damage in a teamfight.
Malak (NA)
: ADCs Need To Adapt
I'mma just start taking my ass to other lane and mute my team.. Mf mid. FUck it.
Rioter Comments
: Post your entire champion pool
Highly doubt your champ pool is that high. {{champion:21}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:222}}
: He has to all-in, same as {{champion:89}} without the tankiness aspect. For me he's fine, and really risky to play.
But the thing is, unlike Leo, he has an escape potential..
Rioter Comments
: 60% winrate going through bronze then hardstuck bottom of silver. whoop de do You're building MF as an auto attacker with W max first. Why play MF at all when other auto ADC does it better and you dont even use her kit to it's actual potential. You doing absolutely everything wrong vs clueless players doesn't mean its good
Once again, I don't care what you think of my build, you have never played a game with me so you don't even know how I play her. Winrate don't lie. As far as being hard struck in low silver goes... Not really. And anyway, what does any of that post have to do with the originally topic? Unless you are actually saying, my build is the reason why the silver jg's won't gank.... too which I will LMAO too..
: It's not just Silver it also happens in my Plat games. Typical JGL responses: LOL you are trash/It's not my job to win your lane? (Proceeds to krugs while teemo is about to tower dive with ignite) toxic muted AND the most seen/most typical the no reply and still doesn't go near your lane and if they do they just take your cannon wave then leave.
Lol and based on the comments here... Apparently jg's can only gank under the perfect circumstances... lol..
: depends on a variety of factors, being pushed up wont always mean gankable: - if you (the laner) are too low, then they'll just turn and kill you. - if the enemy laner is already fed, then they can just 1v2. - if the enemy jungler is nearby and your slightly weaker, both you and your allied jungler will probably die - if the enemy is too mobile ({{champion:7}} {{champion:150}} {{champion:105}} ) or has instant disengage ({{champion:40}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:143}} ) then its a waste of time - if the enemy minion wave has 4+ caster minions, they can be considered an extra champion once the fighting starts (so their damage has to be considered)
I can see why with some champs.. {{champion:266}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:161}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:122}} They can 1v2, 2v3 and win, sure.. But we are talking about letting them keep dominating lane which will eventually let them dominate the game... Yea some champs escape/disengage really good but if we chop them down before they finally flash and dash or whatever.. We force them out of lane and give YOUR laner a couple minions waves to either catch or get a CS lead//
: It is not the jungler's job to win your lane, no matter the situation. If he doesn't want to gank you and instead use his time for other purposes such as ganking another lane, objectives, counterjungling or even farming his own jungle then deal with it. You are not entitled to ganks, it's the jungler's decision what to do with his time. If he doesn't want to gank your lane, then deal with it.
Right, can tell you are a real team player.
: No point ganking for a laner if: -ganking for that person doesnt get them ahead. Have ganked for people 5 times and they still lose lane. -ganking for that person gets you both killed -ganking for that person doesnt help the team at all. If you cant carry, you are last gank priority -that person cant CS, rune/build/skillup properly or just super trash so ganking for them doesnt do anything when they'll go back to losing lane as soon as I leave -if they have a really bad matchup and they'll need constant babysitting just to stay even Looking at your shit builds, runes, skilllups and low performance many of the above applies to you especially considering you "main" MF yet totally clueless w every aspect of her. A lot of times in loading screen I'll look up my allies to see who deserves the most attention to most likely carry
60% win rate with her so I don't really care what you think the right build for her is. And the HIGH, very high possibility you gank, and we get a kill, now they are gonna play shy the rest of lane fearing another gank. Plus Ieither got a BF sword now or are boots so now I probably won't need another gank..
Rioter Comments
: I’m actually hoping that the rest of 2018 is dedicated solely to VGUs.
Morde and singed should be next up imo... Morde is useless other R, haven't been in a game this season where he has won lane at all[granted there have only been a few].. and literally all Singed play or try too play the same.. Running farm simulator..
5050BS (NA)
: Why is Brand Support Ok but Zyra was too oppressive so nerfed to the ground?
Brand is legit cancer in bot lane... Only time you can punish him for being aggressive is when he leaves his adc.. And even then it's at the risk of your HP bar as he just W and Q's you at Lv2 and does almost 50% dmg, that's insane.. Only way Zyra does that much on you is if you let her do her full rotation on you, Brand doesn't even need to E and the coment almost always hits right on target for him! And Lv6, unless you have the lead, Zyra ult is useless unless used as disengage.. Whereas Brand legit pops R off before dying and gets a kill, sometimes double! I played vs Brand numerous times in the past few days and he has won the majority of the match ups.. And I legit dominated lane each time with him as support.. It's crazy how op he is bot! Especially vs another supp who doesn't know how too dodge or keep moving, them tank supps..
: Tl;dr *Screams in entitled adc Jks, buuuuut we cant really judge who made the right choice without knowing the specifics of the match. Items? Champions? Levels?
Entitled? I guess not wanting my supp to hug the tower during laning is asking too much, go figure! All that does not matter, we would have won this either way, but my grape is, this supp made the game harder by not helping me even when the minions were just outside turret range.
Doge2020 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=breakordoom444,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=INB3yZMs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-21T17:54:54.167+0000) > > well. > > following leagues rules, if he isn't intentionally fucking up your game, its perfectly fine. I don’t really get why people complain when about something when they win the game anyways. I have done games where I have “inted”, *cough* {{champion:14}} *cough*. But I still won the game while getting 0 kills and 15 deaths. And no, those 15 deaths in that Sion game were not intentional.
Because it makes the game harder and that would mean you are getting carried?? I do not like getting carried... As I am the ADC..You obviously like getting carried... 15 deaths? How hard were you carried. Be honest. Also, I complain because if i didn't, they would think that's ok..
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Keyru (NA)
: Boards Moderation Discord Verification
Escheton (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Monkey D Wuffy,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0HzEGBEE,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2017-11-06T17:55:51.792+0000) > > You people arent fully reading a 4 lines post > "that helps his team with his Meditation/chakra .." > > Does{{champion:14}} {{champion:62}} heal/shield their allies? Yes. Via Stoneborn Pact. Possibly nabbing {{item:3174}}. But at least {{item:3109}} and even sometimes{{item:3401}} . Personally doing quite well with {{champion:14}} {{item:2303}} {{item:3022}} {{item:3109}} New Runes give even better options to heal/shield allies as a Tanky AD Support. Though the lacking Rune mana regen options have nerfed (some){{item:3302}} users into the ground. Not sure where you got Wukong from tho. He's a terrible support.
Have never played with either as a support? Both are hyper bullies bot. Of course Wu can get shut down way earlier then Sion pre 6 but you still should be able to get a healthy CS lead.
: It's the last day of League as we know it
"LEAGUE NEEVER BE THE SAAME AGAAAN!" - Most likely not the real Chris Jericho.
: i don't remember ziggs being very good in season 5
: > [{quoted}](name=Theorchero,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MVBm16L2,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-08-30T00:09:44.832+0000) > > If you are unable to go to college, then work a shit job locally and study on your own. There's tons of programs available for free to teach you college education without the massive expense and extra bullshit fluff that they're so known for. As i stated, even some people WITH degrees can't find work. Also, the most popular things are things i need to go to an actual college for. Nursing, law enforcement, law. Unless i wanna be a computer nerd( which isn't easy) doing stuff purely online on my own time would be a fruitless endeavor.
> [{quoted}](name=The flex z0ne,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MVBm16L2,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-30T02:09:59.372+0000) > > As i stated, even some people WITH degrees can't find work. > > Also, the most popular things are things i need to go to an actual college for. > > Nursing, law enforcement, law. > > Unless i wanna be a computer nerd( which isn't easy) doing stuff purely online on my own time would be a fruitless endeavor. You don't need to go to college to be a police officer.
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