: Riot, We Need To Talk.
They're surveys going around asking why people stopped playing, and what new game they were going to and what features they had that league should have. I was just laughing at it(there is a entire thread on reddit with a fucking table of contents dedicated to just improvements), I haven't played ranked in months and all my friends have slowly quit because everyone else just stopped playing. This game was so competitive and now were left with a watered down version of what it used to be. I don't hate this game at all, it's sad a company can actually kill such a good game so badly with poor decisions. These guys can't even take a piss without researching lmao. Everyone in diamond has like 10 smurfs, who are boosting 10 other people for money like all these new players are virtually bots or smurfs, I feel bad for everyone below plat because although elo hell isn't a thing, every other game is versus someone boosting. They'll realize soon enough and try to make up this mistake, it's already showing in the viewership in pro matches. On the bright side, I guess I can focus on studies now, thanks Rito you doing something right.
: im not getting it.... can someone explain what hes talking about? (serious)
> [{quoted}](name=FNC SpaceTuna,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=85Aqu1AA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-06-17T03:55:12.005+0000) > > im not getting it.... can someone explain what hes talking about? (serious) there is no reason to play ranked because it has lost its value over this season due to unfair matchmaking, not to mention queue timers for everyone have gone up to 10 mins, 30 if your diamond. Waiting 10 mins and then losing a game is a very big pill to swallow for some who do not have unlimited time in their day.
Zacster (NA)
: Bronze LCS
http://houseparty5v5.com/about-us/new/ enjoy
: Riot should do an in-client survey to all accounts asking about DQ vs SQ and share the results.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4m7r9o/dynamic_q_megathread/d3v7l50?context=1
Lettow (NA)
: Player Made Solo Queue? (@Riot would this be allowed?)
https://houseparty5v5.com/ enjoy advertise or do w.e they're a very fun community
: > [{quoted}](name=ACENOX,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M7lphLH7,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-06-02T19:08:45.113+0000) > > can someone explain what should be seen? A team of 4 Challenger players (top 50 players of all) together with a Master player (Bracket above Diamond) are matched against a team of 4 Diamonds and 1 master. Bracket wise; This is like placing **4 golds and a silver** against **4 bronzes and a silver.**
> [{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M7lphLH7,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-06-02T19:10:18.196+0000) > > A team of 4 Challenger players (top 50 players of all) together with a Master player (Bracket above Diamond) are matched against a team of 4 Diamonds and 1 master. > > Bracket wise; This is like placing **4 golds and a silver** against **4 bronzes and a silver.** its more like putting 4 diamonds and a plat versus 4 bronzes and silver, the gap between diamond and top 50 is insane lol
: Premade 1,2,3 Limiter Enabled
Haven't played this game in the past 10 days and didn't even bother patching. I can't believe you basically said "fuck you" to everyone below diamond, and I'm already fucking diamond... such a terrible decision.
Ralanr (NA)
: What would stop bruisers from building this %dmg reduction items?
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uAMYAzvB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-06T01:16:29.811+0000) > > What would stop bruisers from building this %dmg reduction items? you wouldn't do damage then that's the whole point of it
Rioter Comments
Valknut (NA)
: Ranked is aggravating and leaves you feeling cheated
I'm just a casual now, barely play games, 20 min queue times aren't worth playing shit games in anyway.
: fizz is the most toxic champ in the game
pro tip: you can q and r at the same time so his ult basically becomes a point blank auto lock, its mostly used in upper elos, its stupidly hard to miss if done correctly, he needs some nerfs but he's is slightly overturned. Also, late game you don't need ult, you can w q and the adc will die most likely if your full build. He has a terrible lane phase just take advantage of that.
: New Taric's stun hitbox is retarded
His stun is a problem with his W, like his tether range is almost a screen away, it's like somehow that lucian dashing into you now has a random stun .
: Because competitive league all revolves around 5 solo Players performing everything solo in an Environment that promotes soloplay right? No. If someone is challenger then he deserves to be Challenger. "But it's just DynamicQ" is just a sad excuse for the inability to see the bigger picture.
> [{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sRUx6MRf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-04-25T07:55:45.498+0000) > > Because competitive league all revolves around 5 solo Players performing everything solo in an Environment that promotes soloplay right? > > No. If someone is challenger then he deserves to be Challenger. "But it's just DynamicQ" is just a sad excuse for the inability to see the bigger picture. So your saying someone who has been 5 man queing to gain LP with an unfair advantage is the exact same as someone who solo grinded and earned lp..hmmm. What do you think will happen when the other team also has 5 man in voice coms ?? you think you'd get your 3-4 man ganks off easier, the answer is no because the other team will also be doing the same thing, the only difference is your opposition is going to crush you in lane and in teamfighting regardless because he is a better solo player since he never used his teammates as a crutch to start with.
Rioter Comments
Junkο (EUNE)
: Wow 40 people out of 67 million. What a big amount.
> [{quoted}](name=BlackGuilmon,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UAoZoY9d,comment-id=0023000000000001,timestamp=2016-04-23T11:10:36.356+0000) > > Wow 40 people out of 67 million. What a big amount. So i guess that makes Riot on dynamic queue right also, right? boards / 67 million lol no wonder there's no solo queue. http://na.op.gg/statistics/tier/, go here real quick and add every region up see if its 67 million, oh dont forgot to account for smurfs, bot accounts and people that never play /s.
Xonra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Brucee Vayne,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UAoZoY9d,comment-id=0023,timestamp=2016-04-23T04:14:08.263+0000) > > Lmao everyone crying for urf, then when they get it "URF SO BORING" make up your minds One guy crying about cancer champs doesn't make up everyone. You are just one of "those" people who wants to be the "anti whatever boards is saying" guy. No one likes "that guy".
> [{quoted}](name=Xonra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UAoZoY9d,comment-id=00230000,timestamp=2016-04-23T04:51:11.599+0000) > > One guy crying about cancer champs doesn't make up everyone. You are just one of "those" people who wants to be the "anti whatever boards is saying" guy. No one likes "that guy". 1 person with 39 upvotes, so no it's not just one person
: Grievous Wounds back + Soraka Heavy Nerfs -- Sejuani Effect
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I don't really care if that champion gets deleted out of every game or olafed, she deserves these nerfs after being perma ban for the entire season could care less about soraka mains lel
: URF IS OVERRATED AND BORING.
Lmao everyone crying for urf, then when they get it "URF SO BORING" make up your minds
Ultîma (NA)
: Zed has been a dominant ban-worthy pick for months. Why are you buffing him?
It's so they can balance him better, like when they removed dfg to prevent mages from 1 shotting tanks, you can expect to see zed nerfs if the new zhoynas is underwhelming.
Rioter Comments
: You Aren't Crazy, Silver Is Just A Shiny Bronze.
Having climbed from bronze 5, I can assure you after plat 4 you'll notice a difference, other than that its all the same.
Meddler (NA)
: Mid-season stuff that may be harder to spot on the PBE
Hey could you please give us an update on Twisted Fate, whether or not he has some changes or is he being left alone because I feel like his gameplay is so binary and just becomes boring over time just because of his inherent kit, esp since he has only 2 casting spells there isn't much to do besides locking in w gold and spamming Q.
Eyesack (NA)
: What is a healthy example of an assassin?
{{champion:61}} , {{champion:34}} ,{{champion:126}} ,{{champion:99}} ,{{champion:101}} {{champion:45}}
: > [{quoted}](name=KirbyCake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=74V3u8dR,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-04-10T05:55:00.055+0000) > > When there are obviously boosted players that got there by dynamic queue How obvious tho? People have bad games you know and toxicity isn't exclusive to bronze. How do we know you didn't get boosted yourself? I mean... you have that 3/11 game after all. Really... people need to stop seeing "boosted" everywhere.
> [{quoted}](name=I hate my ADC,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=74V3u8dR,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-04-10T13:54:18.569+0000) > > How obvious tho? > People have bad games you know and toxicity isn't exclusive to bronze. How do we know you didn't get boosted yourself? I mean... you have that 3/11 game after all. > > Really... people need to stop seeing "boosted" everywhere. If your in high diamond, you can pretty easily tell someone who doesn't belong its as clear as day. It's like when you see your friend play league for the first time.
: > they also have low mobility and poor early game New players do not have to worry about things such as this. The only thing they need to know is how the QWER works and how to move with right click & such. As Ryze, his kit is considered simple enough. Q is a skillshot, W traps them, E throws multiple ball thingy & R makes him go crazy. With these kits, beginners can play him with ease. Although I do agree Ashe's kit is a lil harder to understand for beginners, since even I had a friend who wanted to try out LoL, he was having a hard time understanding wtf does her Q does. Not like I care about him anyway, since all he did is stopped playing tutorials halfway & never touched it for more than a month. Probably champions like Sivir or MF is a good replacement for Ashe since their kits is much simpler.
> [{quoted}](name=BeatzBoyFTW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sMnMa3w2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-04-08T00:28:11.706+0000) > > New players do not have to worry about things such as this. The only thing they need to know is how the QWER works and how to move with right click & such. > > As Ryze, his kit is considered simple enough. Q is a skillshot, W traps them, E throws multiple ball thingy & R makes him go crazy. With these kits, beginners can play him with ease. > > Although I do agree Ashe's kit is a lil harder to understand for beginners, since even I had a friend who wanted to try out LoL, he was having a hard time understanding wtf does her Q does. Not like I care about him anyway, since all he did is stopped playing tutorials halfway & never touched it for more than a month. > > Probably champions like Sivir or MF is a good replacement for Ashe since their kits is much simpler. Yeaaahh....No this is complete bullshit, Ryze is probably one of the highest skill cap champs in this game, and I've mained Riven, Tf, Lee sin , Ori, Zed in the past, no one comes close to Ryze, he's def not something a beginner should try and pick up. They just never changed it from the first rework.
: Let's take a sample lane match up {{champion:238}} vs {{champion:127}} No Zed has a couple options going into this matchup. He can build {{item:3142}} for high burst vs anyone and roams. Or he can build {{item:3139}} or {{item:3156}} if he wants to itemize defensively vs his lane opponent. Meanwhile Liss has {{item:3027}} for her core rush and {{item:3157}} for defensive itemization. Zed gets 3 good item options, but Liss gets only 2. Now Riot is going to effectively nerf both of these items for this matchup as the increased active cd and lower AP outweigh the cdr and cost reduction. Riot isn't even adding further itemization options so this turns into a large nerf. This is why people are concerned here. If they want to heavily adjust these items to give more/different benefits at the cost of some of the current strengths, then at least give us extra options to choose from.
> [{quoted}](name=SLAYER6752,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VVoFcWc0,comment-id=000b00000000000300000002,timestamp=2016-04-07T21:51:32.503+0000) > > Let's take a sample lane match up {{champion:238}} vs {{champion:127}} > > No Zed has a couple options going into this matchup. He can build {{item:3142}} for high burst vs anyone and roams. Or he can build {{item:3139}} or {{item:3156}} if he wants to itemize defensively vs his lane opponent. > > Meanwhile Liss has {{item:3027}} for her core rush and {{item:3157}} for defensive itemization. > > Zed gets 3 good item options, but Liss gets only 2. Now Riot is going to effectively nerf both of these items for this matchup as the increased active cd and lower AP outweigh the cdr and cost reduction. Riot isn't even adding further itemization options so this turns into a large nerf. This is why people are concerned here. If they want to heavily adjust these items to give more/different benefits at the cost of some of the current strengths, then at least give us extra options to choose from. except 1 champion has aoe abilities , and the other has single target/ semi aoe burst damage. You're comparing apples and oranges. FIrst off, Roa does not affect liss item curve at all, she builds that regardless, of her matchup her ult negates zed pretty effectively and she can farm using her range, which zed does not have. If Zed is using his Q to farm, then he can't harass, its just trade off in lanes. If your going to nerf champions/items in such a binary matchup then that is a terrible strategy to balance because their are more matchups in which buffing zhoynas would actually make these boards go nuts( Fizz) . The reason mages do not have same amount of armor/ap items compared to ad champs is because most Ad champions are mele, while most mages are ranged, that is the trade off. There are some outliers in this situation (graves), but he has nerfs on PBE.
Rioter Comments
: just got qued with a silver 2 in low diamond elo
: By playing in the LCS. LCS is the only think that matters to these dumbasses
> [{quoted}](name=warpenguin555,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UGzNvRiZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-04-04T23:08:00.109+0000) > > By playing in the LCS. LCS is the only think that matters to these dumbasses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSu0r-QWZnM&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV9-kxD2XEM&feature=youtu.be
: Which skill is the most helpful for climbing out of Bronze/Silver? (Poll/Discussion)
Rotations/wave control, they go hand in hand if you master them you will climb in no time, contrary to popular belief of lower elos not knowing how to cs, bronze/ silver cs are'nt that bad http://na.op.gg/statistics/tier/, you can select cs and it will show you at 20 mins/game, although they differ as the game goes on, just pointing out that the cs gap isn't as big as people think. There is no point in any of these if they don't earn you any sort of objective, if you can't transition your gold lead into ->towers, what is the point of the gold lead lol.
: Hardest Champion to Play?
{{champion:4}} {{champion:13}}
: I feel like ranked in lower elo is pure luck at this point
It doesn't get much better at diamond if that's is what your thinking, the whole point of climbing is to ensure you are *much* better than the rest of people your playing against not a little better. Depending on your role and your playstyle climbing can take some time, the key to climbing is to remember that you have to have a winrate of 60% at least in your current elo to move forward to the next one. If you have above a 60% winrate you should climb slowly but surely you'll get to your plateau of the next elo. Remember that some games are just unwinnable, so no need to go dwelling over it probably easier said than done lol.
Kiokami (NA)
: delete lee sin
I don't even see lee sin being played in diamond to its fullest, with that being said if you ever struggle against a champion , just try him out in normals or custom matches and you can see his weaknesses.
: Am I the only one who doesn't hate dynamic que?
There is nothing wrong with playing friends etc, but ranked is a mode to show personal gains and success, not you and your premades. Inherently this creates a bad competitive environment at my elo. For example, I solo carried myself to diamond, as a result I know I deserve this elo. However, someone who has been pretty much boosted by his premades is going to get shit on in diamond, because inherently he should be much lower, it basically boosts people to an inflated mmr.
: Platinum Is the Most Toxic Elo
Generally low plat is really bad, until you hit plat 3ish it will not get much better which is true plat elo, anything that is tier 1 and tier 5 under are the same , unless your master tier. Just keep grinding you'll get out of it eventually.
: Soon Shyvana, Soon. . .
She's still strong lol, do people read patch notes? her scaling is just lower mid game, her end game spike is the same. 180/185/190/195/200% total attack damage ⇒ 140/155/170/185/200% total attack damage , to put this in perspective, at level 9 she will be exactly the same lol, still gives some time for her to win up it's an ok nerf but nothing hard.
Rozair (NA)
: I have stopped trying to climb
Why don't I give you guys a diamond perspective. First, every elo has "feeders" you won't ever stop them because the game is designed to end, if no one died you wouldn't be able to finish a damn game and that would be boring as fuck ( Also toxic morons are in diamond also) . Second, there is no such thing as luck in this game, luck may win you a game or two occasionally, but it will not climb you tiers, otherwise there would be at least 1 bronze in diamond. The champion thing is a myth, anyone can climb if they've mastered a champion, I climbed with lowest win rate champion in the entire game at the time to diamond {{champion:13}}, people thought he was garbage after 5 spell cast cap, however I know that I'm good enough on him that I am not handicapped by that nerf. If you have mastered a champion to its fullest and know its strength and weakness, then you will climb. Although, if they happen to be S tier picks like Lux or Zed, it just happens at a faster rate because they are over tuned. So why not pick them all the time? Well it's all about comfort, I won't play OP champions in diamond unless I'm comfortable with them because people will just shit on me if I make mistakes which happens when you haven't played enough of that champion. If you think riding a "freelo train" by just picking op champions all the time will work, then your mistaken because as soon as they get nerfed you will be put back into the elo you were at previously and will have to learn the new Fotm, which at my elo takes a lot of time because you have to master it completely otherwise it's pointless , it's a never ending cycle and at most you might gain maybe 2 ranks above your normal mmr. Now if you play something like ={{champion:20}} which is currently weak right now, you will obv have a much harder time climbing, but it's still most likely better than first time yi in the jungle. There are a variety of reasons why pros pick certain champs which have to do with team comps and meta game (towers, wave clear, masteries) which everyone under master tier does not need to follow because well it's not that serious, we're not paid professionals so why bother, half the time people do not even know what they are doing so its pointless to copy. On the topic of feeding, you guys may think that going 0-15 is bad in bronze, but going 0-4 in diamond is just the same. The reason being that people punish mistakes much more the higher you climb and it all becomes a much harder game as you progress. If you are going 20-0 and cannot carry your teammates, you are definitely doing something worth reviewing/replaying. No team should go 60 kills each without someone ending the game.
: The Problem with the Bronze Division and Placements (A Bit of a Rant/Opinion Piece)
confirmation bias on the feeding part ( ever elo including diamond has feeders), afkers happen at all elos, maybe in lower elos more than normal, but that's part of the game you can only win so many. If you yourself think you deserve at least gold, then you should be able to 3 v 5 basically in bronze. I can practically 1 v 5 after lane phase, there is no teamwork in lower divisions it's all about hard carry, this will change when you hit gold and you start to see better rotations and objective control. If you find yourself losing too much, try playing normals for a bit until your back to normal. If it makes you feel better I started at bronze 5 and know the pain of struggling through games with unfair matchups, and then I realised I need to stop relying on my team and just carry every aspect of the game until people know what the hell they're doing. Also your build paths and masteries are wrong for lee sin jungle, might want to look at some pro builds and masteries to get a better idea of what to build. Not to mention your playing lee sin, which is probably one of the most hardest champions in the game to master, why not try easier junglers who do more for less, if your looking to climb that is. When you play simple stuff like pantheon/amu/warwick and are not hindered by mechanics, you focus more on gameplay, afterwards you can work on mechanics.
Tektt (NA)
: Is it possible to go from bronze 4 to bronze 5?
there's no difference between b4 and b5 , just have fun with the game and forget about your rank, you'll climb on your own
: Riot seems to only know three kinds of nerfs...
You forgot the nerfs that make the champion clunky to play
: Is there anyone else who doesn't mind playing against zed?
He's freelo to me meh, most predictable and counterable assassin in the game
: I'm getting kind of fed up with this assassin meta.
Quality Shit post have an upvote, but the amount of idiots on this thread is astonishing lmao
: @ Riot, in regard to the Lulu changes on PBE
I'm not sure what direction Riot wants to take Lulu, but these changes seem pointless tbh. The real problem with lulu and why she's picked and banned in LCS/Diamond+ Elo is her safety from ganks and flex blind pick in 3 lanes which is an insane advantage. Other than making lane phase completely boring, she's virtually impossible to kill and her utility late game scales well enough to make the opponent feel useless later on, I hate playing versus her in lane tbh. I think nerfing her waveclear would probably be the best option, so she can be a viable support.
Cryo00 (NA)
: Either Zed is stupid or Hexdrinker/Maw
"farms up using his entire set of cooldowns with no energy left, while i stand there staring at how pretty he looks", if you really hate him that much just try and play him, since he's such freelo. "picks up a couple kills" like what, how'd he pick up the kills, what the hell were you doing when it happened. Shit like this is just baffles me, give any champ free kills and they'll look broken.
Rowsdowr (NA)
: Don't get me started on ranked.
> [{quoted}](name=Rowsdowr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LEuL3RTv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-06T20:31:33.222+0000) > > Don't get me started on ranked. :^)
: What Champion Carried You to Silver, Gold, Platinum, ect?
: Lulu
I have no problem with support lulu, that's why suggested her utility get buffed and damage nerfed. Diversity isn't the problem, a lot of champions can play in different lanes, it's when your actually amazing in 3 lanes which makes her over the top. For example there is a master tier Ad malz jungle main, which is perfectly fine because it does have drawbacks versus other junglers, however Lulu mid/top/supp has no drawbacks whatsoever and that needs to be fixed.
Rioter Comments
: The biggest problem with low Elo is that you can barely climb by playing 'smart'
The reason going ham isn't punished hard in lower elos or even if they kill the person they have no idea how to push their advantage to the maximum. For example in diamond dieing past 20 will lose you most of the map, in gold you may only lose a tower or maybe nothing( just an example not bashing you guys)
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