: That is fair, and I respect your opinion. There can be advantages to not leashing the jungler though. 1. By not leashing, the opponent is less likely to know what camp the jungler started. 2. It can give the lane early shove/priority. Admittedly might be less useful at lower elos where we are, but that early level 2 could be an early kill.
Yeah good point, i hadn't considered that.
: I think you're full of crap... Some jungle champs (e.g., amumu) are very weak at the start of a game. They need every bit of early assistance they can get. A leash is NOT a "courtesy" any more than a gank is NOT a "courtesy." They are smart tactics. Only a stupid selfish prick would screw over his own jungler. Laners taking camps later in the game make sense only after the jungler is healthy and strong (e.g., level 9 or 10) and preferably when the team has pushed into the other team's area. That's not what happened in this game. The ADC was taking camps before I hit level 6. He followed me from camp to camp and cleared them out. And as for "I don't think your issies qualify at face value," bite me. Let me follow you for camp to camp and kills your monsters and see how well you do.
> [{quoted}](name=SilverMonkeyX,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WntOLdhs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-23T06:45:01.679+0000) > > A leash is NOT a "courtesy." [...] They are smart tactics. I agree with this. This is a team game and people must work together (in most cases) to win. Sitting in lane doing nothing while you could be assisting the jungler with a leash is bad play in the same way that, for example, attaching as Yuumi to your Adc and just afking is bad play. It's not simply discourteous, it's negligent. Now whether that negligence constitutes assisting the enemy team, i think that's a pretty fine line. Where you draw that between trolling and just playing badly is difficult to say.
xelaker (NA)
: The game should just automatically remake when conditions are met...
I don't agree with that. I've had a game where i already had a kill (or maybe even two) in the 1v2 and the other lanes were winning too. I convinced my team to vote against the remake and we easily won the 4v5.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k4fbUdyk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T15:28:43.555+0000) > > Yes, everyone is experiencing the same issues as indicated by the yellow "!" in the top left, just give them an hour or so to ice everything out Its 6.30 pm here, client was already full nutcrackers at 10.00 am this morning. Still waiting all day, cant play, game full of bugs, its a nightmare.
A nightmare... jeez get over it. It's probably the largest patch of the year and Rito is actively working to fix it. And it's a frickin game. You could be starving in the squalor somewhere in the third world (or fallen through the cracks of the increasingly porous social safety net in the 'modern' west). A "nightmare". Pfft.
: Good to see im not the only one unable to hit an electrocute today....
Wda04 (NA)
: 9.14 so buggy
> [{quoted}](name=Wda04,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k4fbUdyk,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-17T15:27:30.517+0000) > Is anyone else having issues with the client? Yes, i'm unable to connect to chat
: > [{quoted}](name=Silly Neeko,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=20eJOyv4,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-05-03T11:00:53.591+0000) > > I took the test and found myself in United which fits me just fine. where is it? Everyone says its in the client but I dont see anything
> [{quoted}](name=Princess Ahegao,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=20eJOyv4,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-05-03T11:17:09.964+0000) > > where is it? Everyone says its in the client but I dont see anything Go on home, then go with your mouse over the fat written "MSI TRIALS 2019" letters there is a small white arrow in the word "trials" you can click that to switch the screen to the right and there is the banner for the quiz (Copied from The Big Game Theory 's comment on youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3g37Nle0w)
Rioter Comments
: "We're unable to log you in because you may be offline" - Not Letting Me Log In
followed this suggestion from another thread and it worked: > [{quoted}](name=PeppersHere,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=eXp96EtT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-07T21:13:33.727+0000) > > I just had this problem for ~10 minutes. I found success in just opening/closing the client over and over until the problem went away...? (about 7-8 trys) Unsure how it fixed, but the bug is widespread and doesn't persist every attempt. Best of luck.
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Give Mundo an actaul buff
: "GGEZ" can we not?
good luck pretty much everyone who plays this game is a self indulgent thumb-up-the-r-ass basement dweller, we need a mute all function because you meet like one nice person for every 20 raging fucktards
: normal draft discord - NA
back at it, hmu if you are down to clown (or just play)
: normal draft discord - NA
bump. Looking to play again tonight.
Rioter Comments
Halfroot (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Silent Gravity,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GcNn8LhE,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-10-17T04:48:42.961+0000) > > You have a 14 day gap from 8/26 to 9/9. Compared to your 5+ games a day, that looks very much like a 14 day ban. For this comment and for the one above, I had used a 14 day Runescape bond during that time frame after I was un - banned, unlikely as it sounds. There's no way for me to prove it but if a Rioter is here they might be able to confirm it.
you should be banned just for playing Runescape xxx
Halfroot (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LegendaryLemur,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GcNn8LhE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-17T04:31:51.975+0000) > > Halfroot: who cares IMO yes this is enough > > i mean, i'm exaggerating but given that this is the sentiment of your contribution to the game, i say thusly > > You are blaming people for trying because you, what, haven't had the game go well so far? TRY DAMMIT > > Oh and as i sit in queue it only gets worse. Halfroot: "why should i care about other ppl" Why should I care if my team wins or loses, if they flame me nonstop for the entire game.
because you can press mute at an expense of like 3 seconds and then just play the same as always
Halfroot (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LegendaryLemur,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GcNn8LhE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-17T04:38:45.162+0000) > > I've always thought punishments are too lenient. I'm in favor of capital punishment for minor crimes in real life. So maybe mine isn't the most representative opinion, but it's my opinion. Good straw man argument, you're trying to counter my argument by attacking a position I don't hold. I take a logic course in college and know how to refute the argument. The fact is people aren't treated the same in the court of law in real life either. Celebrities and politicians who have money or connections get the best lawyers can use their influence to win hearings most people wouldn't be able to do otherwise. If you follow politics, Brett Kavanaugh probably comes to mind.
We have arguments? Wow ok... Sounds like this is part of the problem. EDIT: also yeah i think not taking a game seriously should be deserving of a perm, but again that's not conventional wisdom, it's just mine.
Halfroot (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LegendaryLemur,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GcNn8LhE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-17T04:31:51.975+0000) > > Halfroot: who cares IMO yes this is enough > > i mean, i'm exaggerating but given that this is the sentiment of your contribution to the game, i say thusly Not taking a ranked game seriously is suddenly worthy of a permanent - ban? Especially when I'm the one trying to diffuse the situation by telling them that their ranked progress is going to reset in another few weeks anyways. Is flaming and trash talking is suddenly nothing compared to negative attitude?
I've always thought punishments are too lenient. I'm in favor of capital punishment for minor crimes in real life. So maybe mine isn't the most representative opinion, but it's my opinion.
Halfroot (NA)
: Did I deserve this perm ban?
Halfroot: who cares IMO yes this is enough i mean, i'm exaggerating but given that this is the sentiment of your contribution to the game, i say thusly You are blaming people for trying because you, what, haven't had the game go well so far? TRY DAMMIT Oh and as i sit in queue it only gets worse. Halfroot: "why should i care about other ppl"
: Dont worry, it will **never** happen
that's what they said about the return of the messiah, but here we are
Leto GT (EUW)
: I wish Dusk blade, Luden's and Stormrazer to be deleted for s9
meh luden's is fine, stormrazor i would never build it's just a dumb item i don't like how it looks, duskblade is OP as fuck also nerf spellbinder that shitis too good
LFlood12 (NA)
: I can never win HELP!!
: This is game is filled with bots and riot isnt doing anything
it's not every single game. My main acct i play aram all the time and i never see a bot. But my lower level accts i've been playing on the last couple days, one is level 14 and one is 8, there are like i would say 60% bots in ARAM. It's awful. Riot tends to ban these guys in waves, so it probably won't be forever, but it's just annoying since this is the only random-champ mode. I'd rather play 2v2 with bots (though the 4v2's do suck) than play against one-trick rivens and yasuos on sr/tt. Also, @OP, try using a paragraph/newline char now and again, lol. Oh also you can recognize the bots they almost always take snowball/exhaust hope it helps. Sometimes they take cleanse/snowball also just found out.
: Happens with scuttle too on SR. You can see the Scuttlecrab’s health bar but can’t see the buff circle. Happens with other stuff such as Anivia ult, kinda annoying bug.
Not sure if this is the same bug. For a long time, there has been the ARAM health pack bug where the circle sometimes doesn't show up after you pick up the health pack. Now the packs themseles (the big + icons), sometimes do not appear.
: Anyone else having issues with Invisible Health Packs in ARAM?
Yes, i noticed this last night. You can see which ones are up by pressing tab (in the area where the dragon/baron/etc timers are on Summoner's Rift). I'm pretty sure i noticed it occuring on all 4 packs.
Rioter Comments
: If you reboot your client, the emote should be in your stock. Sometimes Hextech doesn't talk too fluently with the rest of the client. Also, the only "sleepy poro" emote is the Facebook one: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/e/e4/LoL_Facebook_Icon_14.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/90?cb=20161029213743
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XlqcWhp5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-05T16:30:45.368+0000) > > If you reboot your client, the emote should be in your stock. Sometimes Hextech doesn't talk too fluently with the rest of the client. > > Also, the only "sleepy poro" emote is the Facebook one: > https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/e/e4/LoL_Facebook_Icon_14.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/90?cb=20161029213743 Awesome thanks. Can't believe i didn't think to turn it off and on again :p It was actually a different one i got... snoozy poro. Weird cuz i could've sworn i saw those little z's but whatevs! Thanks again :) https://i.imgur.com/gYsG1vi.jpg
Rioter Comments
: As I said they add an extra day to the event and then everyone's happy as nobody missed a day running it, adding an extra day is compensation enough. Also this post was exactly what you said at the end of that, they had an issue with delays and they told us about it and kept us updated so that is more then enough.
Just because you're happy doesn't mean everyone's happy. As a company you want to build trust that you can release a product and have it function as intended. When it doesn't and you act like it's no big deal, it erodes that trust. But that's just my opinion; you are certainly entitled to your own.
: Why would they compensate anyone? simply add an extra day to the event and literally problem solved lmao
Same reason a movie theater compensates you when you have a ticket for an 8 o clock show and the projector's busted. I mean it's not like Riot's obligated to compensate anyone. But it's a nice show of faith. Sort of a "Hey we weren't really _trying_ to treat our customers as guinea pigs while we stress test some component of our MMO-in-devlopment, etc etc"
: LOL how about 5 hours and still not updating... Way to sprint through pushing an event game and not even run it through the PBE so it wouldnt crash first day out. Pathetic. I remember when Riot would give compensation for servers crashing and bs like this. Now riot gives us a big middle finger and expects us to be grateful. Silly company.
> [{quoted}](name=Mortdog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7qs9cWgh,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-09-12T22:03:34.444+0000) > > PBE would not have caught these kinds of environment bugs. Sorry you're experiencing trouble, we're trying to resolve it as quick as we can! And what makes you think there won't be compensation. Maybe you should go for a nice brisk walk and think about those less fortunate than yourself, try to get some perspective. You seem all bent out of shape.
: Yep, I just got a couple more completed, so it wasn't that.
Probably just like a million people completing the missions at once and the server getting backlogged :p :idle uniformed speculation pwers activate:
: EDIT: It's definitely not clicking the button, 'cause I just got a few more "mission complete!" messages at once. So most of this post is moot. Something just seems to not always trigger the mission complete code every time one is completed. ANYWAY, at least I can point out that there's a grammar error / typo in the Help Note "when a Brightcore has its barrier up" message. Should be obvious :D EDIT 2: Might be related: says I have 3/15 augments on Sona, but only 2/15 are available. I can post a screencap if necessary. I completed 4 intro missions before I got my first "mission complete!" message. Said I completed 2 missions. _Only then_ I looked at my Missions tab and realized I never clicked the "Launch!" or whatever it was Mission-start message thing. The missions I'd supposedly just completed... are currently listed. Played 2 more games, I can't complete them. So, I've gotten messages saying I've completed 2 missions, but the missions it said are completed are listed as uncompleted. I assumed this was a bug that occurred when someone didn't click the "accept mission" sort of prompt in the mission section. Maybe it is? Have the other people who don't have their missions get recorded clicked or not clicked that? If it's as simple as that, though, it's insane that this bug made it into open release, 'cause that's a bit too simple and dumb to slide, yo o_O
No, i clicked that button this monring (12ish hours ago) and completed my intro mission and got the rewards immediately upon finishing the game. Then i played this evening and sat in the lobby for some minutes afterwards with no progress recorded. Relogged and stil nothing. Probably been about 10 minutes for me so far. EDIT: My stuff got through, took maybe 30-40 minutes. EDIT 2: My next round of stuff took more like 2 hours. The breach in the time-space continuum is broadening, lieutenant.
: What type of champs do YOU ban?
Often i'll ban a counterpick of our first pick. If i have a high pick i'll use the ban to counterpick my own lane, but if i'm picking late, i figure i'll be the one counterpicking.
: > [{quoted}](name=LegendaryLemur,realm=NA,application-id=cBWEdEZ4,discussion-id=aAVJiLXh,comment-id=000d00000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-04T03:07:25.346+0000) > > AKA there is no way and you are just talking out of your ass How about you google it instead of trying to get you both banned? The former might be the best option, imho.
Why in the world would we be banned? I have googled it and i don't see an answer. See, e.g. https://www.obamaphone.com/homeless-can-i-get-obama-phone "That leaves one remaining group of homeless individuals who are still not eligible for an Obama Phone — those who are homeless, but use a Post Office Box to receive mail." Also, of course, Obama Phones are only available to americans.
Ðïana (NA)
: In a winning game there's always some purpose to place another one - Whether to clear drag/baron, or enemy buffs, or a bush for an ambush, whatever. But worst case scenario, waste 75 gold and throw it right back in the same spot as the first one. Buy two at once first B, instead of that extra pot, and just plop them and never have to worry.
> [{quoted}](name=Ðïana,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zMboGZ77,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-04T18:12:42.335+0000) > > In a winning game there's always some purpose to place another one - Whether to clear drag/baron, or enemy buffs, or a bush for an ambush, whatever. But worst case scenario, waste 75 gold and throw it right back in the same spot as the first one. Buy two at once first B, instead of that extra pot, and just plop them and never have to worry. I guess. It just seems sort of wasteful. I usually pink one of the entrances to our jungle and it rarely is cleared befroe 10 minutes. Lately i've been putting another one down later in the river brush just for the sake of using a second one, but it feels dumb to replace the one ward with another that is basically in the same place. It's compounded by the fact that i'm playing one for alls and i'm almost always starting support item and getting a sweeper, so i don't really feel like i need the control wards to clear enemy wards (in the rare games where the enemy wards, like, at all. I dunno, i guess it doesn't matter, i just find it an annoying mission. I'd much rather have twice the number of games with 1 control ward or some cumulative mission. Meh, not that big a deal.
Rioter Comments
: no thanks. if RIOT wants to ask me privately I will. but I wont further encourage this publically.
AKA there is no way and you are just talking out of your ass
: Wow, Akali's New Kit Design Is Awful
> And how come {{champion:64}} _**the blind monk**_ can't target her in smoke? I guess he double can't see her "Blindness is no impairment against a smelly enemy." Hard to smell through all that smoke though.
: > [{quoted}](name=LegendaryLemur,realm=NA,application-id=cBWEdEZ4,discussion-id=aAVJiLXh,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2018-07-14T00:49:36.985+0000) > > Anyone can get a free email address. Not everyone can get a free cellphone. wrong. there are trivial, FREE ways, to get a cellphone number, that anyone can use.
Please explain how to get a free cellphone number without an address (and without committing fraud).
: I understand the intent of this move and want it to succeed, so allow me to be blunt. This probably isn’t gonna work. Email based varification is still far too easily duped, especially considering how easily email addresses can be made. I will strongly advise that a much more difficult to spoof/replicate piece of contact information, such as a cell phone number which requires SMS text verification, be used instead.
Anyone can get a free email address. Not everyone can get a free cellphone. Terrible idea.
: I got the same thing too but I think it works now
Phew! Spamming 'gobble marble' was starting to get a bit tedious.
KoKoboto (NA)
: You can't even play bots. The option is there but when you click queue nothing happens.
> [{quoted}](name=KoKoboto,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jKEs5o9t,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-12T19:34:53.574+0000) > > You can't even play bots. The option is there but when you click queue nothing happens. It had been like that, but i just started a bot game a minute ago.
: Player Not Ready, Cannot enter game
Now the whole 'pvp' button is greyed out and disabled on the 'Play' screen. Can only select co-op or training. And find match on the bots screen doesn't even work. :p Time to go play some hungry hungry hippos
: ok ill check onli blind pick working now add me lets play 3v3
: Player Not Ready, Cannot enter game
Same. Restarted client. Seems to work fine now.
Rioter Comments
: Can we just appreciate how screwed up drink sizes are?
yeah that's bonkers, but you can always make your own milkshake of any size you like :p
: Both true. But I'm guessing that jungling is the new way they hope to avoid being banned. They die a lot less this way and when they do, it's almost always executions. I've even seen them end at 0/0/0 if the champ is extremely tanky. I'm just hoping Riot is keeping on top of this. Bots don't bother me terribly much personally, but when my little sister tried to get into this game, bots were a nightmare for her. She just wasn't good enough to carry a team of 3-4 bots every game and she eventually just stopped playing altogether. I'm sure they chase away more than a few players. Especially when it gets to a point when there are 3 or 4 every game.
Yep i lost my first one when this happened because we had 2 jgl bots, a mid bot feeding and the one other human was either a novice or just not trying. I tried to base race at the end, and overestimated my chances. A lot of the time i see a renekton and cho both jungling. The renek will get executed like heck but the cho won't have any deaths. I wonder if they are doing that in a pair, so that the cho is less likely to get banned or something. Riot has been good about clearing out the bots periodically, but they keep surfacing in waves. At least we can escape to invasion mode for now when we want to play co-op :p
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