Antenora (EUW)
: {{champion:222}} is overstat.
I have like 900K on Jinx over two accounts. She is literally a useless piece of paper the first 15 minutes of the game.
Nhika (NA)
: Why is Kai'sa still broken? BLATANTLY OVER STAT
She was intended to made as a 'vayne-esque risky pick'. Riots words. Shes S tier. Has no downside. You can Q someone in isolation for half their health with a few damage items. Like not even a complete damage item. It's absurd.
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Ifneth (NA)
: There’s still the wind-up animation for the first attack, though, and the fact that you had resistances. Sub-second kills are really hard without insane stats and ratios; e.g., late-game Veigar. If by any chance you got 0.8 seconds from Death Recap, then, well, that might just be Death Recap. What’s surprising is just how much damage he _does_ do. A few more seconds definitely would have killed you.
> [{quoted}](name=Ifneth,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2hcRYITz,comment-id=000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-28T16:36:32.032+0000) > > There’s still the wind-up animation for the first attack, though, and the fact that you had resistances. Sub-second kills are really hard without insane stats and ratios; e.g., late-game Veigar. > > If by any chance you got 0.8 seconds from Death Recap, then, well, that might just be Death Recap. > > What’s surprising is just how much damage he _does_ do. A few more seconds definitely would have killed you. You can use W to reset your auto if that matters.
: That's whats called a tradeoff. You are now punished for failing early ganks. You do well they get 160g you get 450g from a kill. You do poorly and you get behind in gold.
The real issue is that if you make a proactive play for a successful gank, you end up breaking even.
: Tencent has had a majority holding in Riot for many years before now. Your dislike of the game does not mean it is ruined. Riot is not obligated to make the game how you want it.
> [{quoted}](name=AvantelWings,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MhzEpfgA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-26T16:22:39.379+0000) > > Tencent has had a majority holding in Riot for many years before now. > > Your dislike of the game does not mean it is ruined. > > Riot is not obligated to make the game how you want it. Making a product that is not in line with what your customer wants is a fast way to tank any business, video game or otherwise.
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: So blatant sexism against men now at riot.
Ironically this discriminates against more minority groups then it helps. African American, Hispanic, and Asian men are not allowed to enter. If you are a gay man who is comfortable being a man, you are not allowed to enter. Trans men cannot enter.
Norglics (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Guzergus,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QzLKosQc,comment-id=0022000000030000,timestamp=2018-08-30T09:02:26.000+0000) > > You seem to have some kind of PTSD towards assassins. They're not that strong. not that strong? there are usually 2-3 asssassins/team
> [{quoted}](name=Norglics,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QzLKosQc,comment-id=00220000000300000000,timestamp=2018-08-30T09:14:28.695+0000) > > not that strong? there are usually 2-3 asssassins/team Playing against Akali top, Zed/Fizz mid, Kha jungle consistently. Killmepleaseiwanttodie.
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: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Wolfzy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RzwzOvEE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-08-28T00:52:14.511+0000) > > Wow, a guy made a joke about fucking another mans wife. Never been done before.... Im so tired of all these reports coming out saying everyone who makes even a slight sexual joke is a monster. Sure what was said was immature, but who cares? Why does it matter, is he gonna fuck your wife now? It was said as a joke, in a lighthearted way. If it bothered you enough why not just tell them when they say it like this : "Hey, can you not say things like that. They are very rude and hurtful. I would very much enjoy it if we could stay pg at the workplace." > > The internet has been too sensitive since like 2015.(scared to even post this opinion in 2018) The bs is if you say something half as bad in game you're gonna get slapped with a chat ban and lose your chests etc.
Bultz (NA)
: Long range champions' damage is so absurd, who is not going to want to play mobile champions?
What the fuck are you talking about. The truth is literally 100% opposite of what youre saying.
BIFF (NA)
: New Tutorial: Playing from behind
This would have been interesting in seasons 1-7 but in 8 your option is to pray the enemy team throws like idiots. If they're halfway competant winner or loser is determined by 15 minutes. You just cede vision, a baron that's too easy to take, and turrets that fall like paper so you can't contest them if supers are up or someone is splitting.
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Srbonator (EUNE)
: How does one counter late game Chogath
People are going to tell you its 'your marksman'. But I will tell you this is not true. People put the cart before the horse. The real answer is to PEEL FOR YOUR MARKSMAN. That's the overlooked part. It's... REALLY IMPORTANT to the outcome.
: ONLY 17 threads were boosted/worthy of attention for Gameplay+ out of Hundreds!
Gameplay+ just sounds like damage control so new people will think the legitimate arguments about how awful the game state is are fringe opinions and not validated by the community.
MLDzXnRRR (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=realbarbagianni,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lNBAuyVH,comment-id=000200010001,timestamp=2018-08-23T21:39:05.767+0000) > > you are right but at the same time if you build full tank you should not be able to one shot a squishy target with a spell rotation which happens right now, it is a double sided problem Why do you think that squishy champ shouldn't die? What is the counterplay to full damage squishy- don't go near him or what? I've seen Twitch with summoner heal and shields by Karma to facetank 2-3 damaging champions - or Kog +lulu/nami, or Janna + Vayne etc. It was honestly sad. Damaging patterns and playstyles/roles in Lol were never balanced and with counterplay aside from mages with skillshots.( Ranged DPS in DOTA have way less damage early game, are extremely squishy or slow, kiting is harder, because of turn rates, but they don't feel overpowered at all. In HOTS all heroes feel that they deal way less damage than anything in Lol and the game is more team oriented and objective based.)
> [{quoted}](name=MLDzXnRRR,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lNBAuyVH,comment-id=0002000100010000,timestamp=2018-08-24T08:47:02.213+0000) > > Why do you think that squishy champ shouldn't die? What is the counterplay to full damage squishy- don't go near him or what? I've seen Twitch with summoner heal and shields by Karma to facetank 2-3 damaging champions - or Kog +lulu/nami, or Janna + Vayne etc. It was honestly sad. > > Damaging patterns and playstyles/roles in Lol were never balanced and with counterplay aside from mages with skillshots.( Ranged DPS in DOTA have way less damage early game, are extremely squishy or slow, kiting is harder, because of turn rates, but they don't feel overpowered at all. In HOTS all heroes feel that they deal way less damage than anything in Lol and the game is more team oriented and objective based.) A CC tank should be controlling zones and setting up plays for his carries to capitalize on. If a tank is able to just delete a squishy with a full tank build we'd have 5 v 5 tank wet noodle fights. So that's not a good design philosophy.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Whichever team strikes first is likely to win- thats the point. Unless it was a bad engage, youre supposed to have the advantage here and be more likely to win. That doesnt mean you will win, but youre supposed to more often than not to a noticable degree.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lNBAuyVH,comment-id=000200000000000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-24T17:32:10.589+0000) > > Whichever team strikes first is likely to win- thats the point. Unless it was a bad engage, youre supposed to have the advantage here and be more likely to win. That doesnt mean you will win, but youre supposed to more often than not to a noticable degree. I started very early season 4 and the game was never like that. That only happened if you hardcore wombod malphite / sejuania ults with something massive or of that sort. Now, literally anything kills you instantly. Why do you think no one plays tanks?
Rioter Comments
: Ranked feels so out of my control.
Agency this season is the absolute worse. You win or lose based on which lane feeds the hardest. I was 0/0/2 last game and the rest of my team was a combined like 4/26. Wtf am I even supposed to do? And this is so common too.
: @Riot, Please just remove voidlings from AP malzahar's kit
He's the least fun mid matchup in the game hands down. Permashove with voidlings and space aids that takes hardly any mana. Bleh.
Madsin25 (NA)
: Combat is what makes the game fun. Nobody has fun warding. Nobody has fun dancing around enemy threat lines. I have fun in combat, and when everyone is dying in 1 second it is not fun. It's actually the opposite of fun. it is stressful.
> [{quoted}](name=Madsin25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lNBAuyVH,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-23T15:33:04.059+0000) > > Combat is what makes the game fun. > > Nobody has fun warding. Nobody has fun dancing around enemy threat lines. > > I have fun in combat, and when everyone is dying in 1 second it is not fun. > > It's actually the opposite of fun. it is stressful. Dude if I remember Pika doesn't do anything except play bots and aram. Don't take them seriously. Them and Fizzv2 are probably the biggest trolls on this forum.
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: It's an unpopular opinion, but I agree with this thread. I think the problem was that this happened while the game was also horribly unstable everywhere else too, and those things together were just too large of a problem. But I think strategy should win out over mastery. If you're someone who thought "you know, Heimerdinger could work right now, even though nobody's really played him in 7 years" and guess what, you were right, that feels good. But like the OP says, you got that for 1 month cause people who are ADC mains can't adapt to something unexpected in a competitive game. Competition is about adaptation, no matter where you find it, in life, in business, in games. It's not about finding a winning strategy and then working as hard as you can to enforce the status quo forever cause you happen to be good at it. But this is what the community (especially pro-players) wants. Sadly this too seems to apply everywhere and not just League. Season 8 has been plagued with problems, but the "death of ADCs in botlane" was not one of them. Other roles get pushed and pulled out of the meta all the time, why can't ADCs take a backseat for a whole year too?
> [{quoted}](name=Yormaughm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AU4dMXE2,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2018-08-19T03:29:26.815+0000) > > It's an unpopular opinion, but I agree with this thread. I think the problem was that this happened while the game was also horribly unstable everywhere else too, and those things together were just too large of a problem. > > But I think strategy should win out over mastery. If you're someone who thought "you know, Heimerdinger could work right now, even though nobody's really played him in 7 years" and guess what, you were right, that feels good. But like the OP says, you got that for 1 month cause people who are ADC mains can't adapt to something unexpected in a competitive game. > > Competition is about adaptation, no matter where you find it, in life, in business, in games. It's not about finding a winning strategy and then working as hard as you can to enforce the status quo forever cause you happen to be good at it. But this is what the community (especially pro-players) wants. Sadly this too seems to apply everywhere and not just League. Season 8 has been plagued with problems, but the "death of ADCs in botlane" was not one of them. Other roles get pushed and pulled out of the meta all the time, why can't ADCs take a backseat for a whole year too? There was no adaptation. People had spent years perfecting that one specific skill and picking any marksman for a period of time was borderline trolling.
: {{champion:222}} is still gutted and a auto-loss troll pick. {{item:3070}}
> [{quoted}](name=Colton147,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AU4dMXE2,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-08-18T23:45:41.019+0000) > > {{champion:222}} is still gutted and a auto-loss troll pick. {{item:3070}} I don't understand why people downvote you. She has the worst early game of any champ in the game I swear. Playing her feels so bad even if you get fed.
: It's cancer seeing Tristana back in the meta.
> [{quoted}](name=Blåbæret,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AU4dMXE2,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-08-18T23:42:53.041+0000) > > It's cancer seeing Tristana back in the meta. Thats silly I made a post about her kite negates every weakness a marksman has and got a ton of downvotes. Clearly she has a weak early game or something. (She doesnt)
: Daily reminder that we still don't have +3 refunds per season despite getting over 6000 upvotes
I think the real issue if anyone is actually spending money on RP after this atrocity of a season. They don't deserve money. You'll live without skins.
Atlªs (NA)
: being held hostage in game is probably the WORST feeling
Fed Akali fed LB and your Jhin has tabis what the fuck. Wheres his maw? Why the LDR? The jax is full damage and trox has no armor aside from tabis. Holy crap I just got ligma from looking at his itemization.
: Season 9 is the last chance to stay relevant; League cannot afford another Colossal Cock Up Cascade!
> The longer games are in league, the less they appeal to the casual player. This is objectively false. At its peak we had lane swaps and late game team fighting. Ironically, since going to a damage meta, viewership has decreased. Want to throw that out right away. I have no idea how you can actually back that up. With that said he makes a good point about nerfing early game damage while buffing tanks. Did they not learn the lesson of trying to shift power to/from places 4 different ways at one time was a horrible idea when they decided to nerf items, stats, and sustain of marksman? We lack diversity because where there could be a few gentle taps toward diversity Riot gives us swings of the mallet instead and it goes too far. I agree with op. I like teamfighting metas. I think high damage playstyles are gimmicky, lack strategic depth, and are extremely frustrating to play against. While it's fun for the team snowballing (Some don't think that's true) it's nothing but a 10-15 minute period of frustration as the other team hopelessly defends against an inevitable loss. Comebacks are few and far between, often relying on the other team to get too cocky and make some dimwitted throws. **THIS IS MY MAIN POINT. YOU CAN HAVE A DAMAGE META WITHOUT MAKING DAMAGE SO EGREGIOUS AND OVER THE TOP AS IT IS NOW.** You could have literally just buffed runes but let people keep all their defenses instead of only compensating them the 0 to maybe 1/3 of stats they lost. That would have increased damage across the board. You could have taken away defenses and made rune damage baseline to what old runes were (TLD v Electrocute). But as I mentioned before, Riot can't seem to give gentle taps to any one direction or the other and see how it settles, they insist on twisting the knob as far as it goes and then just leaving it to sit for too long. If you like fast paced high damage short games, ardent meta was a nightmare, and lasted way too long. If you like strategic teamfighting macro play, this season has been a nightmare, and has lasted way too long, and it ends up that everyone is frustrated over time.
: > [{quoted}](name=LegitBusinessman,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=povvXY7d,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-08-18T20:08:48.113+0000) > > The point is that she has ALL of them. the point is that you have nothing and listed something that isn't a weakness as one. TRY AGAIN
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=povvXY7d,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2018-08-18T20:12:27.455+0000) > > the point is that you have nothing and listed something that isn't a weakness as one. TRY AGAIN Wtf are you talking about. You can put her E on turrets. With E Q she might be the best adc at mowing down turrets in a short time.
: since when is "turret destruction" an ADC weakness? also many ADCs also have self peel and plenty of others also have instant steroids so... what exactly is the point here?
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=povvXY7d,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-18T20:05:53.002+0000) > > since when is "turret destruction" an ADC weakness? also many ADCs also have self peel and plenty of others also have instant steroids so... what exactly is the point here? The point is that she has ALL of them.
Jamaree (NA)
: I mean that is what adcs all do and tend to have in some way or another?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=povvXY7d,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-18T20:01:15.075+0000) > > I mean that is what adcs all do and tend to have in some way or another? Not even remotely close no. And she has _all_ of them.
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: yes , dont be the bad player {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
I know right i should have been better to carry the -60 lp i lost from 3 afks in a row last night. Damn gotta work on my mechanics clearly.
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: A message to everyone who thinks that every sensible person who plays League doesn't enjoy it:
I don't wanna be 'that guy' but the instant kill 100-0 in .5 seconds probably isn't appealing to the strategically minded player but rather appears to more uh... simple minded people.
: Bard is going to be nerfed so hard next patch...
He's not meant to sit in lane with an overpowered rune and ignite and be some kind of lane assassin. He's a utility roaming support.
: Why look at pro players in general? It's not like they represent what's strong or not. There are regular players of league that are able to play as good as pro players, yet they don't need recognition. Those good players oftenly play champions like (Evelynn, Kha'Zix, Nidalee, Katarina). Yes there are some korean pro's who create metas sometimes through their pick choices or playstyles, but it doesn't meant that regular players don't also find something that is strong and off-meta.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ax2HErly,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T11:52:31.944+0000) > > Why look at pro players in general? It's not like they represent what's strong or not. There are regular players of league that are able to play as good as pro players, yet they don't need recognition. Those good players oftenly play champions like (Evelynn, Kha'Zix, Nidalee, Katarina). > > Yes there are some korean pro's who create metas sometimes through their pick choices or playstyles, but it doesn't meant that regular players don't also find something that is strong and off-meta. Ezreal is considered pretty garbage by all accounts and is still picked regularly in LCS purely for safety
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EkyonKun (NA)
: I've had to smack myself in the face for not rushing pure damage items in the early game. "Oh they're immobile, I'll get Rylai's" "Oh they're AP and stun reliant, I'll rush Banshee's" NO LUDEN'S. FIRST. EVERY. GAME. NO. MATTER. WHAT. I just want to be able to counterbuild my opponents smartly to gain a statistical advantage, while they attempt to do the same. But no, we're both rushing the same damage item every game no matter what depending on what our class is: Be it bruiser, assassin, mage, adc, whatever. Try to build defensively against an opponent? Watch yourself be useless and still get one shot regardless of what you just built. It's actually starting to irk me a bit.
> [{quoted}](name=EkyonKun,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tNqkcQdw,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-09T19:03:36.530+0000) > > I've had to smack myself in the face for not rushing pure damage items in the early game. > > "Oh they're immobile, I'll get Rylai's" > "Oh they're AP and stun reliant, I'll rush Banshee's" > > NO > > LUDEN'S. FIRST. EVERY. GAME. NO. MATTER. WHAT. > > I just want to be able to counterbuild my opponents smartly to gain a statistical advantage, while they attempt to do the same. But no, we're both rushing the same damage item every game no matter what depending on what our class is: Be it bruiser, assassin, mage, adc, whatever. Try to build defensively against an opponent? Watch yourself be useless and still get one shot regardless of what you just built. > > It's actually starting to irk me a bit. I hear the nubs who don't play anything except some instant burst champ like 'HURRR DURRR DID YOU BUILD TABIS AGAINST THE TALON DERRRRRRRP" Imagine thinking Tabies does anything against anything nowadays.
: Riot Officially Stated they aren't going through with the Yasuo R Buff
The fact that this was even considered in the first place is pretty fucking astonishing.
: League gameplay changes over the next few months
Great changes. About 9 months too late. Games been nothing but frustrating to play win or lose. BFA is preordered. I’m done with League. Only posting to make it very clear that no it’s not burn out or any reason white knights give. I’m done because this season just hasn’t been fun and you took an unacceptably long time to fix it.
Leto GT (EUW)
: Yeah that sucks I aggree. They're going to "nerf' electrocute upfront damage but I don't think it's going to actually matter that much. Although, I believe we're going to see a luden's nerf along with the planned duskblade nerf.
> [{quoted}](name=wG Got2Cool,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nvwTnaX0,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-07T12:44:30.170+0000) > > Yeah that sucks I aggree. They're going to "nerf' electrocute upfront damage but I don't think it's going to actually matter that much. Although, I believe we're going to see a luden's nerf along with the planned duskblade nerf. It won’t matter. Until armor and mr are returned as stat options for lane matchups, the damage won’t matter. People are getting popped for several hundred more than their health bar. A modest electrocute nerf won’t fix that.
Binford (NA)
: What’s up with Riot hating on stat line champions now a days
Because they think (lol) it's more fun to play a champ with 3 skill shots that way you can give them 3 dashes % hp and an execute
: Well I think the Turret situation is going along the idea Riot wants more action and diving for the fans in the LCS? I mean they rebuilt Akali exactly with that in mind, as she negates the fear of diving with her shroud.
> [{quoted}](name=MashedTatorz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=W0oZEned,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-07T01:31:01.495+0000) > > Well I think the Turret situation is going along the idea Riot wants more action and diving for the fans in the LCS? I mean they rebuilt Akali exactly with that in mind, as she negates the fear of diving with her shroud. People dying in half a second isn't action. It's corny.
: Armor is worthless
Remember when seekers / tabi rush actually made a difference when laning against AD assassins?
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