: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1RAvthnq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-12T01:46:55.950+0000) > > That's not true though. Total AD/AP gained went from 6-18/10-30 to 12-30/20-50. Healing went from 8% to 15%. > > Until an enemy champion has ~88 armor/magic resistance new Conqueror heals more. Realistically, champions aren't reaching the magic resistance threshold until after a MR item (and probably only barely), and champions are only reaching the armor threshold lategame or after an armor item. So for magic damage champions it's just a pure, massive buff. For AD champions it's a buff except vs tanks (the only class actually building resistances for the change to matter) or very lategame games (where it might be a few percentage points worse or better, depending on the opponents). > > It wasn't 'nerfed'. Bruisers don't give a shit about converting 10% of their damage to true damage when most everything they face builds at most Ninja Tabi for defense until the 3rd or 4th item. They do give a shit about gaining an extra 6-12 AD for free, and healing an extra 20%-60% during lane phase and when fighting any form of squishy. Mages meanwhile just love it in general because 20-50 free AP and 8% (was 15%) healing for damage dealt. So essentially it makes it so bruisers are even worse against tanks to the point where champs like renekton and aatrox literally cant even do any damage to them whatsoever once the tank gets a single item. But meanwhile it makes mages insanely overpowered and continue to be the meta in every lane. But instead of nerfing the mages that it is OP on they will just nerf the whole rune in general and fuck the bruisers over even more.
> [{quoted}](name=Lenny Face xd,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1RAvthnq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T01:52:46.342+0000) > > So essentially it makes it so bruisers are even worse against tanks to the point where champs like renekton and aatrox literally cant even do any damage to them whatsoever once the tank gets a single item. But meanwhile it makes mages insanely overpowered and continue to be the meta in every lane. But instead of nerfing the mages that it is OP on they will just nerf the whole rune in general and fuck the bruisers over even more. You realize Bruiser's all build Black Cleaver and almost all of them have innate anti-tank power, right? After Black Cleaver a champion needs 116+ armor, and that means tanks won't even have it until after their first completed item + tabi's. And that's to get to the point **where it isn't already better**; at that point old Conquerer would be very, very slightly ahead. Realistically a tank would need to be working on their 2nd full tank item before the 'nerf' could even be felt. That's ignoring innate things, like how Renekton can shred 25%-35% of a champion's armor or Aatrox can do significant %max hp damage. Bruisers aren't remotely weak or nerfed by the Conquerer change. Especially since tanks still aren't being picked much, so for most matchups Conquerer was significantly buffed and in the few tank matchups it doesn't matter since the Bruisers/Juggernauts tend to win those matchups regardless.
: Removing the true damage from conq and increasing the healing actually overall nerfed the healing.
That's not true though. Total AD/AP gained went from 6-18/10-30 to 12-30/20-50. Healing went from 8% to 15%. Until an enemy champion has ~88 armor/magic resistance new Conqueror heals more. Realistically, champions aren't reaching the magic resistance threshold until after a MR item (and probably only barely), and champions are only reaching the armor threshold lategame or after an armor item. So for magic damage champions it's just a pure, massive buff. For AD champions it's a buff except vs tanks (the only class actually building resistances for the change to matter) or very lategame games (where it might be a few percentage points worse or better, depending on the opponents). It wasn't 'nerfed'. Bruisers don't give a shit about converting 10% of their damage to true damage when most everything they face builds at most Ninja Tabi for defense until the 3rd or 4th item. They do give a shit about gaining an extra 6-12 AD for free, and healing an extra 20%-60% during lane phase and when fighting any form of squishy. Mages meanwhile just love it in general because 20-50 free AP and 8% (was 15%) healing for damage dealt.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZqrgTEeV,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2019-12-12T00:53:39.674+0000) > > It's Sonnington. They just post random korean/asian girls (generally kpop stars), gush over how great they are and how terrible everything else is, and then deride any form of body modifications or not 'generic kpop girl' look, such as piercings, tattoos, or hairstyle. > > Highlights of the last time this idiot posted is saying tattoos remove any worth from a human if said human is female. Nice, I always wanted to be GD famous even if you have to lie about what I've said in the past. But that's what you've gotta do right? Lie. If someone expresses an opinion in a somewhat reasonable fashion, but you disagree. Might as well just go way over the top and lie about them.
> [{quoted}](name=Sonnington,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZqrgTEeV,comment-id=000400010001,timestamp=2019-12-12T01:31:22.226+0000) > > Nice, I always wanted to be GD famous even if you have to lie about what I've said in the past. But that's what you've gotta do right? Lie. If someone expresses an opinion in a somewhat reasonable fashion, but you disagree. Might as well just go way over the top and lie about them. I'd dig through your post history to find the exact times you've said it, but you are posting from a smurf and I don't give enough of a shit to go through everything to find your last account. Not remotely a lie though; you got your thread deleted and a temp ban (or permanent ban since you have to be using a smurf) for saying that. And saying many things like it.
Admeia (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZqrgTEeV,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2019-12-12T00:53:39.674+0000) > > It's Sonnington. They just post random korean/asian girls (generally kpop stars), gush over how great they are and how terrible everything else is, and then deride any form of body modifications or not 'generic kpop girl' look, such as piercings, tattoos, or hairstyle. > > Highlights of the last time this idiot posted is saying tattoos remove any worth from a human if said human is female. and why not male? They an SJW or something?
> [{quoted}](name=Admeia,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZqrgTEeV,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2019-12-12T00:54:46.995+0000) > > and why not male? They an SJW or something? Because they don't want to fuck guys so they don't care how they look or if they want to put minor ink on their body.
: On one hand I'm glad you shared this cool cosplay (a link to your source would be nice though) but on another I think it is so odd how you reacted so harshly about these tattoos..like bro I had to SEARCH for the one on Akali's leg and cannot see any others...you obviously don't like tattoos so why attack others for it
> [{quoted}](name=LeafyGreen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZqrgTEeV,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-12T00:34:53.490+0000) > > On one hand I'm glad you shared this cool cosplay (a link to your source would be nice though) but on another I think it is so odd how you reacted so harshly about these tattoos..like bro I had to SEARCH for the one on Akali's leg and cannot see any others...you obviously don't like tattoos so why attack others for it It's Sonnington. They just post random korean/asian girls (generally kpop stars), gush over how great they are and how terrible everything else is, and then deride any form of body modifications or not 'generic kpop girl' look, such as piercings, tattoos, or hairstyle. Highlights of the last time this idiot posted is saying tattoos remove any worth from a human if said human is female.
: "The development team doesn't see individual support tickets like these" - Hextechnician
How are you 'being punished'? You can still reroll to get the skin for free, you just don't get the exclusive "I actually paid for this, specifically" icon and border with the skin. Either pay for the ability to have an icon you'll never use and a border that will show up maybe once a year, or satisfy yourself with *only* getting the Prestige skin for the cost of rerolling 3 of your several hundred skin shards.
Mártir (EUW)
: The Yuumi "Changes" are HORRIBLE. Her Winrate will fall to less that the current 39%.
That's the point of the change. That Yuumi has to actually know when to hop off and is punished for messing up, instead of 'whoops I messed up, guess I'll just use my permanent untargetable spell again'.
: I've tried turning off my ad-blocker for awhile to see what it's like and to support the channels I like. It's been painful, but not as bad as watching ads on crunchyroll (which I still block). 15 second ads I can deal with. 30 second ads aren't that bad. Anything over that and I've skipped them at the earliest possibility unless youtube was in the background.
> [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BkqhbbcX,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-12-10T20:29:08.364+0000) > > I've tried turning off my ad-blocker for awhile to see what it's like and to support the channels I like. It's been painful, but not as bad as watching ads on crunchyroll (which I still block). > > 15 second ads I can deal with. > 30 second ads aren't that bad. > Anything over that and I've skipped them at the earliest possibility unless youtube was in the background. Oh god Crunchyroll. They are what caused me to actually end up getting an adblocker, because 4-5 unskippable 15-30 seconds ads in a row, 3-4 times a video, is bullshit. There was almost as much time spent on ads as time spent on the video.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vGHWJRUi,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2019-12-10T21:57:23.081+0000) > > He doesn't. Rhaast heals for 43% of damage he deals to enemy champions, and a bonus heal of 7% (+9.1% per 100 bonus AD) of a target's max health. > > Aatrox heals for 30% of all damage he deals to enemy champions, increases his own healing by 70% (that boosts his enemy champ heal up to 51% btw), and also does 12% enemy max hp + heals the same amount. More importantly, every Q hit decreases the already short cooldon for the %max hp damage + heal so he ends up using it very often. > > Rhaast heals a lot, but Aatrox heals even more. IF that is the case which i mean if cho has 10000K hp i doubt, but lets go with yeah aatrox heals more, that means Rhaast is garbo and needs buffs tyvm cuz why ever take his slow ass versus the amazing and fast and strong af shadow assassin
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vGHWJRUi,comment-id=0001000200000000,timestamp=2019-12-10T21:59:56.369+0000) > > IF that is the case which i mean if cho has 10000K hp i doubt, but lets go with yeah aatrox heals more, that means Rhaast is garbo and needs buffs tyvm cuz why ever take his slow ass versus the amazing and fast and strong af shadow assassin Even at an infinite health Cho'Gath, Aatrox wins because his passive gives him the same %hp damage Rhaast's Q does, but Aatrox's passive heals him for the damage dealt + heals again for dealing damage to enemy champions, instead of Rhaast's only healing on damage dealt. As for buffs, I doubt it. A lot of Kayn's strength is that he can go either/or, and that Rhaast has much greater out of combat mobility and slipperiness than things like Aatrox. They have different strengths.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vGHWJRUi,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-10T21:36:12.911+0000) > > Aatrox heals massively more than Rhaast does, and has 3 knockups compared to Rhaast's 1. And he does more damage if he lands his abilities. I mean if you let a Rhaast fight a full tank chogath rhaast heals way more than Aatrox
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vGHWJRUi,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2019-12-10T21:51:50.890+0000) > > I mean if you let a Rhaast fight a full tank chogath rhaast heals way more than Aatrox He doesn't. Rhaast heals for 43% of damage he deals to enemy champions, and a bonus heal of 7% (+9.1% per 100 bonus AD) of a target's max health. Aatrox heals for 30% of all damage he deals to enemy champions, increases his own healing by 70% (that boosts his enemy champ heal up to 51% btw), and also does 12% enemy max hp + heals the same amount. More importantly, every Q hit decreases the already short cooldon for the %max hp damage + heal so he ends up using it very often. Rhaast heals a lot, but Aatrox heals even more.
: Aatrox is literally Great Value Kayn.
Aatrox heals massively more than Rhaast does, and has 3 knockups compared to Rhaast's 1. And he does more damage if he lands his abilities.
: Could Darius's son be the next juggernaut?
No. Darius's son in lore is already dead, and the next Juggernaut is an Ionian pit fighter.
: What is the best strategy going into 2020
Same strategy as 2019, and 2018, and every other year. Don't trash talk, if you have to talk be neutral-positive, type only a little, and just try to diffuse anger or direct it to opponents. if it doesn't work just shut up and don't say anything, because anything you do will make it worse.
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=S Tier Waifu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iuYrwMOv,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-12-10T03:26:44.773+0000) > > i can't seem to block you enough every time bek has an update i have to see you again, it's been a really annoying 5 years not gonna lie Easy solution: just stop using boards like everyone else.
: I don't buy this bs
*negative RNG with small chance of happening happens* boards: "ITS A CONSPIRACY"
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ar9dsg53,comment-id=00010000000000000001,timestamp=2019-12-10T00:05:09.931+0000) > > He got that before the support item changes. Because otherwise he's an assassin support that doesn't snowball, and thus doesn't work. You miss the point in regards to that comment. Without extra ult gold he's an assassin support that doesn't snowball _ridiculously_ hard, but he still has the snowball of an average assassin and can still get kills by mopping up teamfights. Your average support is still in a worse spot comparatively after support item is fully upgraded, because they don't have any reliable method of getting gold and don't have the same degree of access to kills as Pyke. What you, and many others seem to fundamentally fail to understand is that the very nature of Pyke as an assassin support already puts him a leg ahead at this point, because supports are forced to rely on kill gold past support item completion, and Pyke is made to be getting kills.
> [{quoted}](name=Secretly a Phos,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ar9dsg53,comment-id=000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-12-10T02:48:05.812+0000) > > You miss the point in regards to that comment. Without extra ult gold he's an assassin support that doesn't snowball _ridiculously_ hard, but he still has the snowball of an average assassin and can still get kills by mopping up teamfights. Your average support is still in a worse spot comparatively after support item is fully upgraded, because they don't have any reliable method of getting gold and don't have the same degree of access to kills as Pyke. Have you ever looked at Pyke's damage? His damage requires going into melee, using his main escape to do so, and in return he does less damage than almost everything else in the game even with damage items (which he has to buy; he can't be Nautilus and build full tank while still having silly base damage). Likewise, you say "access to kills" while ignoring that Pyke's access is gated behind the worst hook in the game and having his teammates beat another champion down so that he can try to killsteal. Without extra gold he doesn't snowball **at all**. He's a support-assassin, and unless he's 10/0/0 and fighting a 0/5/0 ADC he'll likely be unable to actually kill anything. Unlike other assassins he also relies on his team to be able to 'assassinate' anyone, as his damage sucks. Hence why he has bonus gold gen, so that he still fulfills the 'assassin' part (snowballing, feast-famine) while being gated behind the support part. > > What you, and many others seem to fundamentally fail to understand is that the very nature of Pyke as an assassin support already puts him a leg ahead at this point, because supports are forced to rely on kill gold past support item completion, and Pyke is made to be getting kills. Other supports have the ability to tank damage and have reliable utility. Pyke's contribution to a team past the early and mid game is shrugging his shoulders and spamming a short range, short pull hook while hoping his team can 4v5 to the point he can killsteal. By the time the support item is maxed Pyke is already starting to fall off a cliff since he explodes to a stray glance, can't 1v1, and is forced into building full damage while unable to 1v1.
STEG0 (NA)
: Free speech should be practiced everywhere and in all situations, it's an enlightened achievement of humanity that we can be proud of. The only exception is certain topics around minors, and since LoL is a teen rated game this could apply. Anyone that thinks they can rationalize a reason why free speech is bad, while possibly having good intentions, is set on a path that will eventually lead to horrors and oppression with enough momentum.
> [{quoted}](name=STEG0,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1pygE68r,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-12-09T23:44:34.559+0000) > > Free speech should be practiced everywhere and in all situations, it's an enlightened achievement of humanity that we can be proud of. The only exception is certain topics around minors, and since LoL is a teen rated game this could apply. Anyone that thinks they can rationalize a reason why free speech is bad, while possibly having good intentions, is set on a path that will eventually lead to horrors and oppression with enough momentum. Humoring this; why should it be practiced everywhere, in all situations? Why should a private company have to host your ideas? Why should a private business have to humor a neo-nazi? Why should a restaurant have to keep the 'customer' shitting on the tables and flinging the excess at other customers?
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ar9dsg53,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-09T22:55:35.031+0000) > > You realize that same gap existed before, right? It's not like Pyke's support item still gives gold, or that pre support changes that Pyke's support item gave no gold. > > It went from support item gold + Pyke gold vs support item gold, to...support item gold + Pyke gold vs support item gold. There is still the exact same gap and difference pre and post changes **because Pyke still built a support item and ate the same nerfs as everyone else**. yet he still gets extra gold from his ult that no other support can get, widening the gap in an unfair way. sorry you're angry. have a nice day oh yes and dont forget, riot actually made an ad support item just for pyke and senna. cant really call that a nerf.
> [{quoted}](name=Waka FIocka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ar9dsg53,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-09T23:25:24.032+0000) > > yet he still gets extra gold from his ult that no other support can get, widening the gap in an unfair way. sorry you're angry. have a nice day He got that before the support item changes. Because otherwise he's an assassin support that doesn't snowball, and thus doesn't work. > > oh yes and dont forget, riot actually made an ad support item just for pyke and senna. cant really call that a nerf. Pyke already got AD from the health support item. He doesn't give a shit about a support item changing from health to AD, because he still ends up with the exact same stats either way. He still lost the same cooldown reduction and gold gen of every other support though.
: > [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ar9dsg53,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-09T15:22:21.555+0000) > > Ummmm what? This makes no sense at all. Your argument only works if the ad support item still gives gold. Like pyke's gold is still the same compared to any support. > > The gold difference between pyke and a another support is the fucking same actually pyke gets hit fucking harder but I guess you just wanted to go "ree nerf pyke" like guess what pyke can't build support items he builds assassin items meaning he needs more gold meaning any nerfs to gold will be a nerf to him more then most supports. the ad support item works just like every other supp item in terms of gold. that's the point of this post... pyke gets large amounts of free gold that other supports have no access to especially now that supp item gold income stops at final tier. but for pyke, he gets to keep on getting and giving gold because of his kit which puts him at a major advantage considering the range of his execute and the mobility he has to clean up fights. the gap between say, pyke vs an enchanter supp is massive and completely unfair
> [{quoted}](name=Waka FIocka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ar9dsg53,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-09T22:50:09.912+0000) > > the ad support item works just like every other supp item in terms of gold. that's the point of this post... pyke gets large amounts of free gold that other supports have no access to especially now that supp item gold income stops at final tier. but for pyke, he gets to keep on getting and giving gold because of his kit which puts him at a major advantage considering the range of his execute and the mobility he has to clean up fights. the gap between say, pyke vs an enchanter supp is massive and completely unfair You realize that same gap existed before, right? It's not like Pyke's support item still gives gold, or that pre support changes that Pyke's support item gave no gold. It went from support item gold + Pyke gold vs support item gold, to...support item gold + Pyke gold vs support item gold. There is still the exact same gap and difference pre and post changes **because Pyke still built a support item and ate the same nerfs as everyone else**.
: The state of the r/leagueoflegends subreddit
*checks reddit* *front page has 3 esport posts total; mostly posts about clash, bugs, or bitching* ???
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TkBuUIWZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-08T14:56:02.868+0000) > > Riot is not bringing him back. They reworked him because the old kit was problematic as hell and was literally unfixable without basically making it the live kit anyways. no he wasn't if you look at the mini-rework he got about a month before the full VGU hit, he was actually in a decent place for all intents and purposes that was the Aatrox most of the player base was promised/wanted when he was released Sure it probably could have still used some fixes (almost any champion does) but he was in a much better spot on a different note, don't say they won't bring him back. they've reverted a few champions to previous states because of player feedback
> [{quoted}](name=MordridtheBlack,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TkBuUIWZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-08T14:59:53.107+0000) > > no he wasn't People say this. The people who say this are also, speaking frankly, idiots. Old Aatrox's entire gameplay expression, total, was "can I land the big circle on my free targetted dash" and "can I press W to swap to heal when low on health". That was it. He had no skill expression, he had no method to outplay opponents, and his damage was basically all guaranteed. And then people like you or OP come along who somehow think this was ok for the game. That a champion with no realistic skill expression or outplay potential was in game. And the argument is always the same tired bullshit of "BUT HE WAS UNIQUE" when we have a host of other right click champions, except those right click champions require 2 braincells to use and have success/fail states. > > if you look at the mini-rework he got about a month before the full VGU hit, he was actually in a decent place He got the mini rework 1.25 years before the VGU. And no, he wasn't in a decent place. He was still a bad statcheck until Conquerer existed, at which point he became the literal best toplaner and jungler in the game while still being a mindless statcheck. > > for all intents and purposes that was the Aatrox most of the player base was promised/wanted when he was released Yes, I'm sure the "edgy darkin commander" everyone was promised was the generic attack fast sword guy with no defining traits or features. > > Sure it probably could have still used some fixes (almost any champion does) but he was in a much better spot You know when I said "literal best toplaner and jungler" a few sentences back? That wasn't hyperbole. Aatrox, as a champion who had 0 skill expression, was the best because the Aatrox player just needed a working right mouse button. **That is not a healthy, good design that can be supported**. A champion who wins every single engagement, no matter the opponent, no matter the skill level, is not healthy. A champion who is a DPS Bruiser Carry Tank that sustains their entire health bar while nuking the enemy with undodgeable right clicks is not healthy. Aatrox was not healthy. The only reason he didn't get hotfix gutted was because they were working on his VGU. > > on a different note, don't say they won't bring him back. they've reverted a few champions to previous states because of player feedback They have only reverted Kog'maw, Le'Blanc, and Rengar. All of which had minor gameplay updates, **failed the goals the original updates set out to do**, and were reverted for that. Guess what? Riot isn't reverting a healy juggernaut to go back to a malignant lump of statcheck. That's not happening. Just like they aren't going to bring old Poppy back, or old Sion, or DFG. They aren't going to reintroduce the same bullshit they removed, because then they'd just need to remove it again.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kxFEK6dn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-08T02:48:47.708+0000) > > Why is his Q ever hitting you? You have a slow that can't miss if Darius is within range to do anything, and can just hop away from him. The only time Darius should be hitting with Q is if you made a mistake, Darius took Ghost and used it, or you've poked him down enough that you are going in to kill. If Darius doesn't use E you can just walk/hop away and play slightly safer until hop is up, and if he does E you can just hop away. Guess I cant auto attack him though just keep throwing my Q out and sit far back and he has enough hp regen that q poke doesnt matter z.z just played one of those op regen champs nasus and did good way better champ than gnar
> [{quoted}](name=Jigglypuff,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kxFEK6dn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-08T03:19:55.252+0000) > > Guess I cant auto attack him though just keep throwing my Q out and sit far back and he has enough hp regen that q poke doesnt matter z.z > > just played one of those op regen champs nasus and did good way better champ than gnar You can auto. You have to be smart about it though and actually wait until his stuff is down. Meanwhile Darius's only regen is if he lands Q so you have to fuck up for him to be ignoring your poke. Also lmao at thinking Nasus is going to help you. Yeah, a champ with little poke, who has to be in melee range, that's going to help. Especially when said champ's main strength is midgame with stacks, picking him into a matchup where he can't stack and the only thing he provides midgame is bonus AD and bleed stacks for Darius. Learn how to actually play Gnar. Even if you do nothing but farm you've already outscaled Darius thanks to a teamfight winning ultimate compared to Darius's bloody meatshielding.
: Literally wanted to quit my clash team and quit this game forever...
Why is his Q ever hitting you? You have a slow that can't miss if Darius is within range to do anything, and can just hop away from him. The only time Darius should be hitting with Q is if you made a mistake, Darius took Ghost and used it, or you've poked him down enough that you are going in to kill. If Darius doesn't use E you can just walk/hop away and play slightly safer until hop is up, and if he does E you can just hop away.
Saezio (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GlJzGtG1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-06T20:23:07.559+0000) > > Nidalee always has human as base, That was a long time ago. Nida starts with both forms. So does jayce and elise. They are shapeshifters, they don't have ult form as you call it. They have 2 forms and no ult.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GlJzGtG1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-07T09:49:07.353+0000) > > That was a long time ago. Nida starts with both forms. So does jayce and elise. They are shapeshifters, they don't have ult form as you call it. They have 2 forms and no ult. She starts **as base**. As I told you. Her base form is 'human', just like Elise's base form is 'human'. Just because she has transform level 1 doesn't mean human is not base.
DolphR (EUNE)
: DEAD GAME LEAGUE OF LEGENDS
Ok, let's say that's true. You can't fight Darius with Ignite. Then why the fuck did you fight him? Multiple times? If you know he has Ignite and has kill pressute, why would you respect that he could be bush cheesing? Why would you keep fighting him? Just stay safe, wait for ganks, and outscale.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HAeNa047,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-06T22:06:00.348+0000) > > I've already read everything they have said on that. Plus, If it doesn't appear on a Roadmap afterwards, they haven't started working on that and they did indeed not. They didn’t start working on it that’s true. What I am saying is they said they were going to that preseason and they never did. They never even said why.
> [{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HAeNa047,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-06T22:09:59.934+0000) > > They didn’t start working on it that’s true. What I am saying is they said they were going to that preseason and they never did. They never even said why. No. They didn't. > [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=0YgbTFIJ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-08-22T16:33:13.288+0000) > > I wouldn't say they are "next in line" It was just a few I could think of off the top of my head His reddit thread meanwhile just has "we would like to" and then three champions listed as ones that could be eligible. At no point did he say that they would get updates, or that updates would be done this preseason.
: > [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HAeNa047,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-06T21:34:44.252+0000) > > They never confirmed anything of the sort. They just mentioned him as a potential candidate for one in the future depending how well Ezreal turned out at the time. No they flat out said it would happen in that preseason and it never did. Also they nerfed Jax 3 times bc of spear and never reverted the nerfs when the revmoved it.
> [{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HAeNa047,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-06T21:45:13.950+0000) > > No they flat out said it would happen in that preseason and it never did. Also they nerfed Jax 3 times bc of spear and never reverted the nerfs when the revmoved it. He's still doing fantastic without Spear so why would they revert the nerfs?
: Sylas can steal Aphelios's different ults, depending on what weapon he's holding...
Probably because he takes the 'ult' form, not their base form. Nidalee always has human as base, so Sylas takes the ability to turn into a Cougar. Kayn meanwhile has his ult change based on which form, so Sylas takes whatever his current ult is; it wouldn't make sense for Kayn's ultimate to change to Rhaast's, and Sylas takes the base Kayn ultimate.
: Jesus fucking christ this matchmaking puts me against masters
... That's a Silver IV and a Bronze II. Nobody in the lobby is higher than Silver II.
: Scariest matchups for me as a Gnar player>>>
...??? Gnar does better vs Yasuo than he does in general. Zed wise, you'll only see that if the enemy picks Zed top, and an assassin who shows up in one specific place is a godsend to Gnar because he can just WRQ him if he ever tries to do something. Or can just run away, since he builds enough bulk to not give a shit.
iLLp (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dreamspitter,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jEEhsmPX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-04T14:59:07.232+0000) > > I don't know, maybe. However word has it that an assassin meta is going to be the future. Also many recent changes seem to be pushing for faster and shorter games. why wouldn't an assassin meta be the future? all the assassin items got buffed to high hell and essence of mind gives energy now.
> [{quoted}](name=iLLp,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jEEhsmPX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T15:05:40.079+0000) > > why wouldn't an assassin meta be the future? all the assassin items got buffed to high hell and essence of mind gives energy now. I didn't know losing parts of all their items was a buff, neat. Almost all AD assassins are *worse* off with the new items, because Duskblade lost a useful passive, they don't use Sanguine Blade that well, and the ones opting for Edge of Night lost a pretty large chunk of damage. Not to mention basically just Zed is an AD Assassin that uses Energy, and he sure as hell isn't taking Essence of Mind when his max combo cost is 165 Energy and he has 200. AD Fighters, Bruisers, and Divers are better, because Sanguine Blade is stupid on them. AD Assassins are worse off because their items got nerfed to make up for a broken item they can't use well being added.
Qiyana (NA)
: Things Riot Could Put In The Alcove
These all sound pretty terrible, game health wise. I don't want toplane getting a free teleport gank, or free vision and information on the enemy jungler, or ornn's passive. The point of the alcove isn't to shake up top/bot and change the game. It's to have a little alcove and open up a few extra options mid fight. It does that well enough and does not need changes.
: Rito why you nerf Akali?
Akali: still pick/ban in high elo + pro play, got buffed by Conquerer changes. Gets minor nerfs. Boards: bUT wHy NeRF?????? Because she's still incredibly good if played well and needs nerfs. Riot isn't going to make high elo "Akali banning simulator" just because bronze players can't play her.
iiGazeii (NA)
: I still don't understand why Zoe suddenly started taking Electrocute.
Auto Q Auto already procs Electrocute. It's not like it is a hard keystone for Zoe to proc.
: How does Ultimate CDR work with regular CDR?
Yup, it's multiplicative. At max CDR (45%), Ultimate Hunter is applied to the remaining 55% cooldown, and then Cloud Drake stacks are applied to whatever the remaining % cooldown is. Basically if you have max CDR, Ultimate Hunter, and 4x Cloud Drake you'll end up with about URF level cooldown reduction for your ultimate.
: > [{quoted}](name=afmghost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2019-12-03T15:57:10.797+0000) > > So you're a tool who throws a fit when you don't get your way? You're representing everything I hate about the league community. No, I don't throw a fit. "Throwing a fit" would be trying to get someone else to dodge. If I am seriously trying to climb, I just wait till the very end of champ select and then close it. I don't hold it hostage or anything. (If I'm not seriously trying to climb, then I practice other champs). > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=0000000100010000,timestamp=2019-12-03T19:27:54.453+0000) > > who refused to buy boots for several seasons, -> On pre-rework Evelynn, a stealth champion who can rely on stealth instead of movement speed. And I got to plat without boots. When I switched to Yi, I started buying boots after like a couple months cuz it obviously wasn't working without them. > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=0000000100010000,timestamp=2019-12-03T19:27:54.453+0000) > > including such fine, hard to play champions as Udyr The reason I can't play Udyr is because of an entirely different reason. Custom League mods are no longer "safe" and are truly "use at your own risk" now. I can't play Udyr without muting the "cannot cast skill" noise. It hurts my ears. Thanks for making fun of my disability though. A combination of tinnitus, ear damage, and misophonia that makes me unable to tolerate that spammy sound. And yes, since you supposedly know so much about me, I know you are aware of that reason that I don't play that champion. You're just choosing to omit it. > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=0000000100010000,timestamp=2019-12-03T19:27:54.453+0000) > > Hecarim Actually never played this champion even once, so I don't know if I would like it or not. Yeah you can leave me alone now. There's a reason I had you blocked for so long on Discord. You're being a jerk. > [{quoted}](name=afmghost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=00000001000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T20:04:11.775+0000) > > > Edit: I also wonder how many of those six accounts have a perma I have never been banned from League of Legends except for one undeserved ban that was reversed ("playing off meta isn't against the rules" -> get banned for playing off meta and taking smite top lane -> "smite support diamond singed" incident happens -> the rules are clarified -> I send in a ticket and the ban is reversed). > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=00000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T20:46:38.853+0000) > > > I don't think most sane people want to spend 7%+ of their total time in a year playing nothing but the same right click champion and bashing their head against the ranked wall, but that's how they want to climb I guess. You're forgetting about the part where all my other one-trick champions got reworked, right? :) I haven't been a Yi main for my entire League career. He's just all I have left at this point. But, again, keep being a jerk because you don't like me.
> [{quoted}](name=Jesus saved me,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=000000010001000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-12-03T23:51:00.040+0000) > > > -> On pre-rework Evelynn, a stealth champion who can rely on stealth instead of movement speed. And I got to plat without boots. When I switched to Yi, I started buying boots after like a couple months cuz it obviously wasn't working without them. Most people don't require hundreds of games to realize the item bought on every single champion, in every single game, is worth buying. Frankly that's low Bronze tier building, and even then I've seen Bronze players able to build better than that. > > The reason I can't play Udyr is because of an entirely different reason. Custom League mods are no longer "safe" and are truly "use at your own risk" now. I can't play Udyr without muting the "cannot cast skill" noise. It hurts my ears. Thanks for making fun of my disability though. A combination of tinnitus, ear damage, and misophonia that makes me unable to tolerate that spammy sound. And yes, since you supposedly know so much about me, I know you are aware of that reason that I don't play that champion. You're just choosing to omit it. Two things. One, why do you think I'd put any headspace into learning or knowing things about you? I don't. Two, Sound FX volume already governs that. And has been in game for multiple years. Seriously, have you been avoiding basically every champion in the game because you are too lazy to spend 30 seconds checking the in game sound sliders? Literally just turn down or mute that and your problem is fixed. > > Actually never played this champion even once, so I don't know if I would like it or not. > > Yeah you can leave me alone now. There's a reason I had you blocked for so long on Discord. You're being a jerk. Hey, I'm not the inting one trick who pings other people to show off their inting, bitch about teammates, and then try to brag about hitting Plat to somebody who doesn't care. I'm downright saintly compared to that purely hypothetical person. > > I have never been banned from League of Legends except for one undeserved ban that was reversed ("playing off meta isn't against the rules" -> get banned for playing off meta and taking smite top lane -> "smite support diamond singed" incident happens -> the rules are clarified -> I send in a ticket and the ban is reversed). Right. 'Undeserved'. I'm sure your team when you went Jungle Ekko with 37 CS in 10 minutes felt that was undeserved. Y'know, just a bad game where you did less damage than anything else, warded nothing, built terribly, and died every 2 minutes for the entire game. Or your AS bootless flashless janna jungle. That was certainly just off-meta. > > You're forgetting about the part where all my other one-trick champions got reworked, right? :) > > I haven't been a Yi main for my entire League career. He's just all I have left at this point. > > But, again, keep being a jerk because you don't like me. I at least have good reason for not liking you. Namely all the inting and pinging. I did also have the reason of "this person might be in my ranked games", but that's kind of solved now so just those two reasons.
afmghost (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T20:15:03.034+0000) > > At least 2 AFAIK. Turns out going Janna Jungle, with Ghost/Smite, building pure AS, and then inting 11 kills is not allowed, who knew? > > I am mildly impressed he ever hit plat despite having that little game knowledge. That's at least something to be proud of; imitating hashinshin and climbing against the odds through sheer # of games played. It's almost insulting knowing how I quit at B3 (I refuse to count that demotion match) and players like joker here made it that much further down the road.
> [{quoted}](name=afmghost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=0000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T20:40:12.957+0000) > > It's almost insulting knowing how I quit at B3 (I refuse to count that demotion match) and players like joker here made it that much further down the road. Being good helps ranked climbing. As evidenced by people like OP (or hashinshin, or any of the thousands of games D4 players), it's not required. Being able to do one thing ok (or even doing one thing badly) and then grinding out weeks of playtime is enough to climb anyway, even if the player is a one trick not even good at their one trick. I don't think most sane people want to spend 7%+ of their total time in a year playing nothing but the same right click champion and bashing their head against the ranked wall, but that's how they want to climb I guess.
afmghost (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=0000000100010000,timestamp=2019-12-03T19:27:54.453+0000) > > This is the one trick Yi main who refused to buy boots for several seasons, ints on literally everything else (if he doesn't dodge), and claims **every other champion in the game** is "too hard" or a "skillshot champion" including such fine, hard to play champions as Udyr or Hecarim. And makes multiple accounts so he can dodge/int and then still...play Yi. Because, y'know, Yi is such a visceral, high skill champion that you just have to play League, constantly, so that you can show your extreme skill in building on hit items and right clicking a champion. > > Seriously, who makes multiple accounts to play Yi? If it was a champion like Azir or such that requires a lot of skill and effort and has a unique kit, sure, but the brainless right click champion in a role where there's already 10+ brainless right clickers who do the same thing? Bonus points, thousands of games on Yi and still doesn't know how to build him. I'd love to see him play against a team that is actually good. I mean with the right comp and/or enough know how, you can easily beat a Yi. Edit: I also wonder how many of those six accounts have a perma
> [{quoted}](name=afmghost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=00000001000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-03T20:04:11.775+0000) > > I'd love to see him play against a team that is actually good. I mean with the right comp and/or enough know how, you can easily beat a Yi. > > Edit: I also wonder how many of those six accounts have a perma At least 2 AFAIK. Turns out going Janna Jungle, with Ghost/Smite, building pure AS, and then inting 11 kills is not allowed, who knew? I am mildly impressed he ever hit plat despite having that little game knowledge. That's at least something to be proud of; imitating hashinshin and climbing against the odds through sheer # of games played.
afmghost (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jesus saved me,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-12-03T06:37:11.228+0000) > > Also when my champion becomes high banrate I can just dodge and switch accounts. Permanently. Zero downtime. Always play my one-trick. So you're a tool who throws a fit when you don't get your way? You're representing everything I hate about the league community.
> [{quoted}](name=afmghost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yeZInxMV,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2019-12-03T15:57:10.797+0000) > > So you're a tool who throws a fit when you don't get your way? You're representing everything I hate about the league community. This is the one trick Yi main who refused to buy boots for several seasons, ints on literally everything else (if he doesn't dodge), and claims **every other champion in the game** is "too hard" or a "skillshot champion" including such fine, hard to play champions as Udyr or Hecarim. And makes multiple accounts so he can dodge/int and then still...play Yi. Because, y'know, Yi is such a visceral, high skill champion that you just have to play League, constantly, so that you can show your extreme skill in building on hit items and right clicking a champion. Seriously, who makes multiple accounts to play Yi? If it was a champion like Azir or such that requires a lot of skill and effort and has a unique kit, sure, but the brainless right click champion in a role where there's already 10+ brainless right clickers who do the same thing? Bonus points, thousands of games on Yi and still doesn't know how to build him.
iiGazeii (NA)
: How about instead of nerfing the mages that take Conqueror...
...A lot of the mages abusing it do primarily single target damage with it though. Ryze's W is single target, and E + Q apply single target spell effects for the first enemy hit/targeted and multi for the rest, or Cass's E which is single target. Better nerfs would be things like slower generation rate for Ranged (say, abilities giving only 1 stack, or only 1-2 stacks every X seconds, etc. for ranged) or lower duration for Ranged (say, only lasting 3-5 seconds instead of 8). Or both. Not nerfing the rune further for some melee users while actually buffing it (or leaving it even) for the ranged abusers.
Rockman (NA)
: >lets yuumi stick with TP
On the other hand though fuck Yuumi
: Vote bots on the boards are getting seriously out of control
Yeah somebody with a 25-30 vote bot is slamming random stuff. Business as usual for boards.
: > [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TFMlvycE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-02T00:20:47.893+0000) > > w is always up with a 23 sec cd ? and the ability is maxed last > > i thought we were complaining that garen does damage ? The problem is his W is stronger than his ult :^) what a good skill to allow him to trade with everyone with it and take so little damage that he can 3v1
> [{quoted}](name=Jigglypuff,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TFMlvycE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-02T01:28:42.264+0000) > > The problem is his W is stronger than his ult :^) what a good skill to allow him to trade with everyone with it and take so little damage that he can 3v1 His W has a 23 second cooldown and lasts **.75 seconds** for the shield. Literally just wait a tiny bit if he uses it, or space out your burst.
: Sometimes, shit happens, even at higher MMR. This comment is shallow and should honestly be moderated to death.
> [{quoted}](name=WoonStruck,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=M9Hfiog0,comment-id=000500000001,timestamp=2019-12-01T20:59:57.482+0000) > > Sometimes, shit happens, even at higher MMR. > > This comment is shallow and should honestly be moderated to death. Yuu and Mi is right though. If Veigar cage stunned more than 2 people, either the enemy team consists of people who are AFK or Veigar's team has a Gnar or such pushing them into it. It is never realistically stunning 3+ people, and even in this mythical land where we pretend it does it isn't stunning 3 people within the range of 1 W. Likewise, Veigar's early game is relegated to hoping his laner pushes up, his jungler comes, his laner has no wards, and his laner doesn't react to Veigar waddling up to try and cage them. And it still only works if the opponent has no blinks or Flash. He doesn't exist as a champion until midgame and lategame, but lategame Veigar dies in 3 autos to an ADC while needing to land EWQ or 2 Q's before his R will kill said ADC. He's a midgame champion with a powerful cage and burst, balanced out by his low range, cast time, cast delays, and reliance on landing multiple abilities to actually kill a threat before he pops.
Kythers (NA)
: can someone explain this clip?
Akali E's Jinx, backs off, E's back in. Once in she Auto + Q's, drops W, and goes far enough in W for her empowered auto to come back. Once it's back, she Gunblade + Auto + Q's all at once for the giant nuke.
Groot4Love (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Arammus,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ApdIrgNp,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-12-01T15:18:24.481+0000) > > lets make 1 thing clear... bots DO NOT report others. never. noone would ever code that. There is n oreason? Life has the most animaginable scenarios. Of course there are reasons. What if you like doing bad things? I could do it easily, EASILY for laughs. others are psychos. You are not living in a world of zeros and ones.
> [{quoted}](name=Groot4Love,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ApdIrgNp,comment-id=000e0000,timestamp=2019-12-01T18:52:13.637+0000) > > There is n oreason? Life has the most animaginable scenarios. Of course there are reasons. What if you like doing bad things? I could do it easily, EASILY for laughs. others are psychos. > You are not living in a world of zeros and ones. Because it'd require somebody spend the time and effort to program this and thus have the knowledge and skills to do it. And it would also require said somebody to be a mental troglodyte, because the only reason to make botting software is to sell accounts so even **if** it worked it would end up sabotaging their own bots. And again, that's "if"; reports don't work based on numbers but veracity, so the creator would need to be relatively skilled but a complete idiot. All for the end result of nothing happening, because the generic inting bot reporting somebody is going to be ignored.
: Pyke in ARAM
Pyke was the lowest or 2nd lowest champion for high elo ARAM after his SR grey health balance change. And still one of the lowest winrates overall for all elos. His hook is also the worst hook in the game and he's made of tissue paper, so he can't really try to pull people out or get his E of on most targets. So...yes. You are the only one.
AdamrCc (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Support Evelynn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=V0Xdk03l,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-30T23:05:58.933+0000) > > Got any examples? I think almost every champ in league is pretty usable at the moment. {{champion:24}}. Never thought I'd say he wasunderpowered but Riot's buffed most other meta champs to the point where even Yi 1v1's him these days.
> [{quoted}](name=AdamrCc,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=V0Xdk03l,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-12-01T04:01:14.047+0000) > > {{champion:24}}. > > Never thought I'd say he wasunderpowered but Riot's buffed most other meta champs to the point where even Yi 1v1's him these days. Jax spent the entire season being good to top tier in Top/Jungle, got Spear of Shojin removed, and is still doing fine Top/Jungle. He's still a stupid lane bully that outscales almost every other champion and has the skill ceiling of the subterranean.
: > [{quoted}](name=Its Yuu and Mi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zsdWEhLF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-01T01:06:43.706+0000) > > I'm surprised you're still posting here XJ9. Thought you woulda been gone years ago. If anyone else had made this comment, it would have been removed both for harassment and for spam cause it doesn't actually add anything to the current conversation.
> [{quoted}](name=BigPapaPimpins,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zsdWEhLF,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-12-01T02:29:14.140+0000) > > If anyone else had made this comment, it would have been removed both for harassment and for spam cause it doesn't actually add anything to the current conversation. Not really. It's GD, and pointing out the perma banned, ban on sight account is still a perma ban, ban on sight account is normal. Personally I'm just surprised the dude who leaks his girlfriends nudes over her playing a character in a video game once is still allowed to have a blatant smurf.
CyberPhobic (EUNE)
: His Casseopia game the enemy was: Ezrael, 13/0/9 Fizz, 16/0/5 Lee, 7/0/15 Bare in mind he is a famous streamer and almost always gets camped cause 'huehue tilt hasinshin huehue', also this is a Masters player first timing Cass , pretty sure if I forced an ADC player to first time Darius vs Gnar he would go 0/10 as well (Fizz vs any mage is the equivalent of Darius vs Gnar) He shouldnt have died as much but your giving 0 context or stats other than his, this thread is nothing but a 'hahaha fuck hasinshin'
> [{quoted}](name=CyberPhobic,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HZRzwyFW,comment-id=0018,timestamp=2019-11-30T20:18:48.011+0000) > > His Casseopia game the enemy was: > > Ezrael, 13/0/9 > Fizz, 16/0/5 > Lee, 7/0/15 > > Bare in mind he is a famous streamer and almost always gets camped cause 'huehue tilt hasinshin huehue', also this is a Masters player first timing Cass , pretty sure if I forced an ADC player to first time Darius vs Gnar he would go 0/10 as well > > (Fizz vs any mage is the equivalent of Darius vs Gnar) > > He shouldnt have died as much but your giving 0 context or stats other than his, this thread is nothing but a 'hahaha fuck hasinshin' No mage should ever be going 0/16/1. Especially a mage who can press W and shut down half of an enemies kit, and who vomits DoT's everywhere. Like yeah, he 'got camped'. Because he's infamously all or nothing, and just ganking him 2 times guarantees a won game because he's going to spend the rest of the match slowly typing out his essays in chat while still trying to 1v1 an enemy 3 levels and 2 items up. Again though, OP is making a point that Hashinshin bitches about how low skill everything else is, and then does this shit.
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