: Stop Being Overly Critical of Everyone & Everything.
Dont be bad in peoples games then. You cant only want people to suck your dick if you are bad some one should tell you that you are bad or else you may think what you are doing is okay. not everyone can self evaluate which is why most flame wars start they end up flaming because people didnt tell them they played absolutely perfect when they cant even farm but when they get a gank they decide to farm instead of bait the gank or help with it they should be told that farming isnt okay when a gank is going on.
Darius needs a hard nerf I think his E armor pen should be removed if not only provide 3 seconds armor pen after using E. Bleed Base and ratio nerfed and his bonus ad on the bleed removed He needs mass Cooldown nerfs on every single one of his abilites maybe not early game but yeah later and thus early for later. lastly his ult rank 3 shouldnt lost mana cost or full reset the partial rest it had before was fine. decrease the rest time earlier in the game and increase it slightly late game. they should also revert the heal buff they gave him Increasing his healing isnt the solution ranged burst per second across the game needs to go down. This will leave him weak but no weaker than any other fighter and as soon as ranged mages and adcs lower damage and silly champs like yasou lose silly things like his tower saftey ult his post ult pen and his free shield also make crit damage -30% damage not -10% for 200% crit chance then fighters and tanks will have a place in the game again along with black cleaver nerfs and defensive item buffs/ reverts
: > [{quoted}](name=Swosh,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zAlLEFkJ,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-31T02:06:02.173+0000) > > Is that a bad thing? just take him out of the game lol... who the fuck cares. If enough people want him out, do it. You shouldn't post my dude, you clearly aren't able to reason well. Let's just delete your main too because of some haters. Irelia is easily more busted and generally hated than Darius. Lets remove her or whoever you main.
Sndr (EUW)
: As someone who plays mainly mage, coming up against him is the worst thing. Once you're in his ult there's just nothing u can do. even if u manage to outlive the space itself his passive always kills u. Unlucky
Thing is he's just a melee range mage most mages are unfair in the same way morde is in that they have tons of damage in an aoe on a low cooldown and have a ways to excape any problem which also doubles as a way to secure kills because mage skills arent ever bound to one or the other so that you can do both.
: I don't think it's inherently broken, I think it's just over-tuned (needs number nerfs). Haven't played as/against it enough to truly say whether the ult is broken or not.
he does need numbers nerfs as in nerf the number of things his kit does. to be balanced with everything he does you dont want to hear what kind of numbers he'd need to have.
Nrsh (EUNE)
: Remember that people still have to learn how to play AGAINST him. I'm not saying it will completely solve the problem but it seems to me that right now people can't ever dodge his Q and E when the only thing you need to do is go to the side instead of running in a sraight line. I do think he needs some nerfs, just not the gutting people seem to think he needs.
E is easy enough to dodge but q is so big and fast on top of it being a really low cooldown but you cant afford to not dodge everyone single one of it because of how much damage it does. but to even have a chance at dodging it you have to be constantly in motion 1 to fake out your direction and 2 to change direction when the cast start there isnt even time to auto attack once he maxes and gets cdr
: Considering how busted he is from people that haven't learned his kit I don't want to see his optimized learning curve in his current state, no.
Kits arent that hard especially if you have played the game before most champions have parts of their kit some where in the game alreadyn its usually just mix and match, which really isnt hard if you can immagine (aka theory craft) you can have your experience building from you see the reveal video.
: Do you guys think the new Mordekaiser is OP?
Yes. mages are op in general though. with very few exceptions
: I feel like a lot of you just support mord in his current state because you're tired of not being able to tank everything and come out on top. It shows when you're very biased against controversial topics. Especially when someone proves a good point.
Most top laners are supposed to tank everything and come out on top thats why these are the squishies {{champion:84}} {{champion:103}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:119}} and not these {{champion:266}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:59}} but the former will often cry about being 'one shot' by the later and also cry about not being able to 1 rotation one shot them too
: I've seen more posts that QSS shouldn't block Morde's ult than nerfing his ult. The main point is that if Yasuo had that winrate, all you would see on the boards is nerfs. However, I just scrolled through, and I mostly saw -Morde has a bug (of course) -Bot lane determines too many games -Why did I get banned -muting everyone with the very occasional post like this one.
people have long since learned that morde has a powerful boards main presence and the followers of those morde mains because the meme on boards. and that a section of adc and mage mains on the boards down vote anything that suggests that a mage or adc may be op they dont get all posts but usually 80% are hit.
usul1202 (NA)
: I may be blind, but aren't there a *lot* of threads calling for nerfs? Like, things claiming the ult is 0 counterplay are getting down voted from what I've seen, but scrolling through there's a good bit talking about how strong he is. I don't think I've clicked a thread yet that says "ah yea, good job on the perfectly balanced champ riot" it's more of "damn, new more is fun" on the positive threads that I've noticed.
His ult is Camille's ult but it casts from where morde is not where his target is so the target can run to the edge of morde's ult by time he's finished casting and have no where to go but into morde. this move largely relies on you having mobility and invisibility to survive it. Cammiles ult didnt last 2 months before riot nerfed its duration per rank because people were crying about it now you can walk to its edge and it disappates before you reach the edge but she got no compensation for the majority of her nerfs except for more true damage on second Q which is what me and some other people pointed out as her main problem on release her Q being more heavily skewed to true damage rather than 85% physical damage 15% true damage. the true damage is what makes Black cleave shit on her depite it scaling with her passive more than trinity and the reason why people find her over bearing even when she loses lane.
Jamaree (NA)
: People are still bitching about Riven, and Yasuo though, that never stopped, hell, people were bitching about Sylas up until his nerf and now his win rate is even more below the average then it was before.
They are broken TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not instead
GigglesO (NA)
: Boards say New Morde is op...
Morde's damage is less delayed than tahm's damage and he has it constantly through his new on hit passive and his aoe damage speed passive which came from w but he was compensated for that already by making his q aoe unless you give up your entire lane you just cant fight him in lane. when he auto q autos the e's to pull you back to him But boards is still crying about tahm What website we using . op.gg says 55% winrate with a 13% pick rate
: > [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HRGLALVM,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-13T16:10:06.350+0000) > > Darius tanky, lul. > He is the squishiest Juggernaut out there. No he isn't. He has more armor than garen base and higher health regen, alongside a scaling heal that increases based on targets hit. Fiora is squishy. Riven is squishy. Darius is not a tank, but he's far from squishy.
Fiora and riven are not squishy. Darius only has more base than garen because garen gets free stats off of w and full heals with passive to even turn it off is usually just inviting minion agro for most champions.
Glîtchy (NA)
: Do something about {{champion:84}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:105}} Then I'll agree.
still dont have problems with Irelia or panth but i agree with the rest. Panth hate just seems to be left over from years ago. but you can deal with those champions after mages and adcs in general.
Barso55 (NA)
: Infinitely Scaling Champs (Nasus/Veigar)
Lol ending early you mean end by 7 mins before the pop off or hit their 2 component power spike
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WPwr0L1L,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T03:43:26.251+0000) > > in the one where we speak the truth based on your actions Do it without insulting them then.
its only insulting if you take offense
d00mface (EUW)
: https://66.media.tumblr.com/b20f681dd39c17b70b7bae4505c9a49a/tumblr_inline_pt17c4Cxqt1r349cg_540.png
look at those eyes and read that again
d00mface (EUW)
: Happy Birthday Aatrox!
Thats neewtrox his B day is april 30th
: and that why balancing this game is such a struggle for riot lol glad you're agreeing with me
to an extent. There are 2 styles of assassins the burst ones. that have long cooldowns and high single target for the most part nukes. 2 the flashy one that jumps all over the place to avoid damage type that does significantly less damage but basiclly dps's in rotations. The problem is that riot cant differentiate between the two and gives each assassin both and massive aoe on half if not all of their skills like Talon Katarina and Zed. This game isnt a struggle at all to balance the Balance team just doesnt want to piss off the design team who seem to have lots more clout
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WPwr0L1L,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-06-11T03:18:37.508+0000) > > Telling people about mistakes isnt Negative what is negative is crying about it instead of learing from it. You cant be sure that they will learn from their mistake without you telling them. In what world is calling someone dogshit anything but negative in what warped reality do you live in is insulting someone anything BUT negative?
in the one where we speak the truth based on your actions
: They were at inhib turrets at 15 minutes lmao it was over trust me, the feeder didn't want to end obviously.
I just won a game where we were down a whole player from 0:00 its not that games cant be came back from but that people arent willing to try and dont know how. Feeding is actually the easiest thing to come back from because no matter how much they feed they are still a champion and thus cant be ignored. Won another one the other day where they cracked open out base and we pushed out to theirs and won too.
: only against squishies + she's squishy herself. Imagine if annie were tanky and %health damage
Looks at annies 40% + damage resist steroid that is the legit best one in the game for years until Warwick got reworked that also does tons of damage if you have to auto attack her (yeah squishy) and her bear shares it and gets a massive speed boost when it activates. (and the bear blood lust kills you if you dare to kill annie while most other pets whither immediately.) She isnt even self rooted or slowed if she casts it and it has no cast time.
: > [{quoted}](name=BeatinWarDrumz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5mmG8lj3,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T20:05:17.211+0000) > > no, he can just wealk up to you and flash on you. Being within aa range of a ranged champion should not be a death sentence Explain {{champion:1}} then?
Simple its bullshit but people are okay with it because she's a mage and because 'short range' just becuase she's short compared to caitlyn or xerath but long as fuck compared to half the roster of melee's
: > [{quoted}](name=BeatinWarDrumz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5mmG8lj3,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T20:01:50.151+0000) > > flash Yes, you can flash too. :)
Morde's ult casts from where morde is reaction flash's do nothing but put you at the edge of his ult range with no where to run until he gets to you and kills you with his high damage aoe long ass lasting speed boost
: > [{quoted}](name=BeatinWarDrumz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5mmG8lj3,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-13T19:58:46.620+0000) > > you cant run away from him tho Eh, yes you can. His R Range is fairly short and as long as you don't step into his E, he won't get close to you.
This basicly says give up the lane because if you walk close enough its okay that he one 100-0's you no matter who you are. and then the classic build magic resist (despite it being super weak and his cooldowns short.) but if he loses lane to where he should build defense first your shit is overpowered
: Morde is Fundamentally Broken, and Riot will not be able to balance him with his current kit
I like that people complain about Camille riot nerfs her ult to the point where it disappates before you can watch to its edge early game but releases morde with the same thing a ton more damage and its way longer and he's mega morde while you fight him
: No, he isn't, people just love running heads on into Juggernauts and expecting to win.
Which is funny because thats exactly what people are doing to tahm but the boards are up in arms
Levu (NA)
: Can I get a Red response? I've never seen anyone addressing this age old issue.
I have suggested since after this became a problem in season 4 i suggested in season 5 that Riot add How many times people press Yes to the Surrender vote into their matchmaking. This would match people prone to surrender with and against each other. And people Not prone to surrender With and against each other. This Increases the quality of games fr both parties in the way each of them like Insuring that people dont keep losing games because of people who surrender and then putting down the game because they are tired of the tilting crybaby culture that has developed. You guys are under masters you cant Identify the win condition none the less conclude the game is already over as you cant tell when the enemy is just gonna be too nervious to end mistake their power and let squishies in front. etc all valid things to take advantage of to turn around the game.
Shahamut (NA)
: AND that advantage lasts for 3 VERY telegraphed autos. most of the time, he gets them while right on top of you anyway because of taunt. So, no real gain there.
Please Shen's Q is cooldown is so short he perma's that shit after 10% cdr
: I mean, did the auto range going down really affect Kench boy from slaughtering everyone that is melee in top?
Kench is only doing that because he's practically new top and everyone is in the learning period on top of magic resist being trash and {{item:3091}} being tons of magic damage. Also people legit dont want to learn to play against him they just cry op the first few days of him being top despite tat he had to get gutted out of bot lane
fifek900 (EUNE)
: I noticed that too after writting post but honestly nothing about him indicates that even his aa animation suggest meele :/
Quite frankly it seems like they may be just dont want to give him real resists and access to Sterak's Gague but i tried {{item:3085}} its trash on him because the bolts seem to only be able to go roughly 300 units to either side of where the target is he auto'ed
: > [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nJXpKRZw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-10T16:19:47.879+0000) > > I'm partly of the opinion that if riot really wanted to do her psychic blades things right, they should have made her a full on ranged champ and moved her to mid. So it could have been worse. Really would've liked if they went full [Blazblue Murakumo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmZrVnwSJ8g) weave-in weave-out with the design. Don't really like how Irelia's now just a melee champion w/ infinite dashes and a linear AoE stun.
How is Irelia an infinite dash champion. She has to wait for spell blade and gets a max of 3 dashes with ult and hitting all her other spells, Which in Her Q is much lower damage and scales horribly for the simple fact that that she uses it multiple times and she gets a 3 spell blade proc's over 4.5 seconds (even then your squish champion probally isnt dead) if you play with perfect timeing and have no travel time for spells. You have dashes more often on graves or lucian
xAcidik (NA)
: As someone who plays both, itemization for AP assassins feels 100x better than AD.
Thats largely broken ap assassin kits. Ad assassin have broken kits too but Mages usually have more broken kits and items than Ad Champions. (to make up for a lack of auto attacking that is the choice of mage players)
: To be fair ap assassin items generally just cost more. Lich is 3200, D-Cap is 3600 Gunblade is 3400. Youmouus and dusk are both 2900 Edge of night is 3000 I dont really like comparing proto to assassins because it isn't an assassin item. Ekko and Fizz build it but thats about it. And it's much less for the damage it's more so for the "i need to survive as a melee in a long range lane" I'd also like to preface that Liss and Sylas dont just turn into assassins buying it. No good lissandra would build it first anyway considering her mana costs.
D cap isnt an assassin item nor is Gunblade One is a win more mage item and the other is a hybrid sustain item.
GripaAviara (EUNE)
: Would be cool if they gave champions additional passives to fit their story, like Lee, he cannot be blinded.
Additional no A general passive that takes up some of his kit power yeah.
: again, nerfing her mid is not an option. btw please stop with the upvote bot. many thanks
You cant be that stupid there is not upvote bot usually the boards bias faces mages but Lux is overbearing on top of being easy to play and pick up. I just hope Op realizes so is Morgana Brand and Veigar. Veigar doesnt have as much of a play rate support but if any of the other mage supports get nerfed he will rise.
: > [{quoted}](name=letsfeedtogether,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uRjKIyUl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-10T10:37:42.790+0000) > > what is this up vote bot what is this. > > > lux is just fine. Yeah only 52% winrate supp(54% kr) dia+. She is fine... She needs either W nerf or Q cd nerf.
Xavanic (NA)
: i don't get it, what happened that he's suddenly so good?
TK was rarely played (with any expectiation to do anything other than eat ally adc). Now people are learning to play him. The people learning to play him are learning to play him faster than the people learning to play against him. The people playing against him dont want to learn to pla against him they just want to Hrr Drr hes a support so how could he possibly do anything. Still Praying they unnerf his max hp as magic damage and put it back on his ult. Most of TK. being overbearing top lane is the brand new {{item:3091}}. Which people also dont know how to play against and Magic Resist is horrible so they just loaded a bunch more magic damage while making Magic resist worse. PS you shouldnt have to insta buy {{item:3194}} versus any type of magic damage there should be other good magic resist options and {{item:3194}} for heavy repetitive damage.
Moody P (NA)
: Replace Aftershock with Courage of the Colossus
Id like Both to be in the game despite that Both of them waste Part of their uptime based on how long the CC activating them is.
Jamaree (NA)
: Did you really need to call him dogshit or harp on his mistakes?
Telling people about mistakes isnt Negative what is negative is crying about it instead of learing from it. You cant be sure that they will learn from their mistake without you telling them.
: Hardly Consider this 'Toxic'
Was with ya until you call for Surrender
: She is objectively and definitively thicc due to hip to stomach ratio.
Waist has nothing to do with thiccness as long as it doesn't fold over. Ass and thighs determine thickness Her ass is only big compared to her waist its not Big. The corruption of the term shortly after it rose to Prominence (just to include basicly anything) was one of the saddest things I ever did saw.
: > [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2mhiqEv5,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-08T22:21:20.386+0000) > > Then morello's should be an ap version of Mortal reminder. with 60 ap 15 magic pen 2 seconds grevious wounds with abilites. and thats it. > Know what you are asking for. > Sustain is intentionally supposed to be the counter to Ap burst but you still have morello's applying grevious wounds for a redicilous amount of time. Exactly. Morellos should just lose the grievous wounds on it entirely.
I think they did that to make up for when people make the mistake of a full ap team instead of letting them get punished for poor team comp.
: a highly mobile champion with no burst isn't an assassin and is usually pretty useless, and a high burst assassin with no mobility is also useless on the exception of brush cheese
It would be less of an issue if the assassins then had super long cooldowns to balance it out but no then they cant Farm versus Mages. Maybe mages should have short cooldowns either for high damage from super long and safe range. But then they cant farm early game. There is always a convenient Excuse unless you are a fighter or tank class that ammounts to if my bullshit champion is any weaker then they'd be unplayable because i couldnt play them the same way in every situation.
: You havent shown any stats either or any isolated games either so right now im supposed to take your word of mouth while you dont show any proof?
I played through that entire season I could Hardly see People build phantom Dancer (me as an exception) Most people built Statikk Shiv over Phantom dancer because of the Chain Lightning I'd search Up The info if i really wanted to change your mind but i dont care that much. But what you are doing as showing Hey this happened in this basicly one time that i can show It was totally meta. Not to mention nothing that happens in the championship finals is ever meta in the season of that championship its meta for the next Because people learn from the championships.
Xavanic (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CloakAndGrenade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yne4Xkf1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-08T04:45:56.083+0000) > > At the very least the CDR needs to be dropped to 10%, that way these champions are sacrificing some CDR (vs items like Spear of Shojin or Tri-Force) to deal with tanks. I'd also, on top of that, nerf the armor shred by about 2-3% per stack, in a perfect world. The bleed would fix a lot of things, making it still effective vs tanks but not so much to the point where it is now
Bleed effect would just screw Fighters who specialize in pushing towers
: Those other items you mention don't also give a huge 20% CDR plus move speed.
The movement speed is shit and on the condition that you are already in the fight auto attacking it doesnt help you get to anything just slight help sticking that slows do more than enough to counteract. I did say Black cleaver needs to lose 10% cdr. But it needs to be re balanced. Those other items needs to be nerfed because Mages (ap bruisers would be Mages) get over Compensated Kits damage and utility and cooldown wise they start out at much less cooldown for skills with much more base and scaling damage. Its not a case of either Or both need to happen. {{item:3135}} also needs to drop to 20% magic pen and get 10 ap or drop to 35% magic pen and become a 40 ap item (the latter if they actually give defensive Mr items and hp items good full item stats again.
: I wonder if a gold tank main who hates classes meant to counter his should be asking for items to be removed so he doesn't have to play correctly into any matchup should be heeded.
Tanks arent supposed to be coutered by single classes but Proper Group focus
Bârd (NA)
: Not targeted. It's about as targeted as Tristana's Q.
Tristana's Q doesnt have anything to do with directly damaging the enemy it is a self buff that auto attacks do more damage. Her Q us more akin to Jax's ult that Kai'sa's Q
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