: saying gg ez or ez after a kill should be bannable
I like to respond with something like "See you in Hell!" or "It is natural to die." Granted I'm not being original because I'm just ripping lines from Shadow Warrior and Duke Nukem, but it's infinitely more original than anything the League Blob can conjure.
: why are people not rational in league?
Because they dumped the stats governing logic and reason to overspecialize even more into trying to be the killfastest killfast of Killfastia.
: why does everyone get punished for one afk?
They don't, and that's the problem. If they did, over 90% of the entire community would be permanently banned tomorrow. One can dream.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Op8uT0TW,comment-id=00250000,timestamp=2019-11-22T19:45:58.151+0000) > > It isn't about champion kits. It's about basic player agency. > > I'll put it this way. What do you expect an early game high DPS jungler to do? Let's use Master Yi as an example. You sort of expect them to be able to snatch the first dragon as fast as possible. I'm not a jungler, but with most junglers, I am able to grab the dragon at level 5, and I do. If the enemy hasn't warded it and the enemy jungler is busy on the northern hemisphere of the map, I can easily take the dragon in about 30-45 seconds, depending on the champion. And way more often than not, I do. > > Now imagine if that same DPS jungler didn't do that. Okay ,whatever, we can get the dragon in a few minutes as a team. But what if they just never went for it at all? What if that same basic lack of agency existed across virtually all roles and that same "I'm not gonna do it" mentality applied to much more pressing mission parameters, like, say, turrets and the inhibitors or even entire lanes? The game won't last long if you don't defend your turrets, and once an inhibitor is down, pushing that lane becomes an increasingly uphill struggle, doubly so if your team is composed of single-target assassins whose ability to clear lanes is abysmal at best. > > That is the mentality I'm talking about that loses games, is the outright rejection of agency and refusal to go for objectives, attack, or even defend after an extremely early set period of time, which usually leads to an inhibitor getting destroyed before we're even ten minutes into a game. yeah my top laners lately, even the adc, have had that mentality. Top won't teleport botside for drake secure and the adc/mid decide to push the wave instead of help whittle down drake (that our jg already started) faster before the enemy jg comes in for the steal. Mind you, that enemy jg was dead and came back in time to take drake anyway. 3 games in a row drag was lost several times because a few teammates couldn't stop what they were doing for all of 30s-1 minute. From there it's easy to see why we lost. those players were not present for any drake or herald. What kills me is that, as a support main, there is so little i can do to help because my exp was cut, my income was cut (a lot of that 'free gold' i get goes to control wards and boots), and my teammates are completely clueless when it comes to map/objective awareness in the majority of my games lately. I uninstalled league earlier because the new changes for this season are further pushing the damage rush + harass the underleveled botlane duo agenda. The alcove change bugs me immensely too, as if we didn't already have enough stress down there to begin with. i'm so tired of being 4 man jumped under my turret several times before 10 mins, or queuing up with people who don't understand basic team composition & item counter builds.
I'm not uninstalling with this preseason, but playing a game as a support right now and the only person with basic player agency is a goddamn tribulation when your EXP and gold income are being severely blunted because it made a bunch of assassin and ADC OTPs with fragile, easily bruised egos cry that the support was being more useful than them.
TIKrunk (NA)
: Sometimes I think people are aiming more to have the opposing team FF than actually finish a game.
As stupid as that is, you might be right. It's like throwing away all your winnings at a casino because the only time you will accept the win is when the machine literally explodes, sends coins everywhere and kills the pit boss with a stray shot between the eyes.
: > This leads to situations more often than not where the support will get targeted first, last and only because their death means the entire team collapses because they're the only one role actually doing anything, and that includes doing the same one single job that the entire community wants to focus on to the absolute exclusion of everything else. this is so true it's sad. but... is it really the players' fault when riot keeps manufacturing these class S heroes off the assembly line with everything a whole team provides included in their singular kit? Escapes, gap closers, aoe CC, large AA range, heals, shields, global ults, big hybrid damage, invisibility, etc? Riot is pushing players to play like this. These are the champs that get buffs and skins afterall. It sucks to play a champ that is so clearly neglected in this game just because your team 'needs' it. Unfortunately support as an entire role is becoming just that, too. A necessary, underappreciated, boring role. The role where you get spam pinged if you try to reset a wave or get a single PK in all the chaos. the new dragon changes are 50/50 for me. Some games the jg knows that dragons are actually vital to the game and they are there when it spawns... but then the top laner is farming cs instead of using TP to come help secure the drake so we lose the 4v5 and the drake. Instead of holding onto their teleport for emergencies they use it to get back to csing faster. That, to me, is dumb. But whatever. Players are there to play how they like I guess. I want to say it is ultimately a champ disparity (their team is great early-mid game, ours is not) which comes down to "did you pick the right champ this game?" again. The roster is thinning with all these changes. Many champs are simply not as capable as others and the reasoning is because riot wants everyone's money.
It isn't about champion kits. It's about basic player agency. I'll put it this way. What do you expect an early game high DPS jungler to do? Let's use Master Yi as an example. You sort of expect them to be able to snatch the first dragon as fast as possible. I'm not a jungler, but with most junglers, I am able to grab the dragon at level 5, and I do. If the enemy hasn't warded it and the enemy jungler is busy on the northern hemisphere of the map, I can easily take the dragon in about 30-45 seconds, depending on the champion. And way more often than not, I do. Now imagine if that same DPS jungler didn't do that. Okay ,whatever, we can get the dragon in a few minutes as a team. But what if they just never went for it at all? What if that same basic lack of agency existed across virtually all roles and that same "I'm not gonna do it" mentality applied to much more pressing mission parameters, like, say, turrets and the inhibitors or even entire lanes? The game won't last long if you don't defend your turrets, and once an inhibitor is down, pushing that lane becomes an increasingly uphill struggle, doubly so if your team is composed of single-target assassins whose ability to clear lanes is abysmal at best. That is the mentality I'm talking about that loses games, is the outright rejection of agency and refusal to go for objectives, attack, or even defend after an extremely early set period of time, which usually leads to an inhibitor getting destroyed before we're even ten minutes into a game.
Rioter Comments
Obsedian (NA)
: When did I say describing the character was about their appearance? A writer? What works have you published?
For the sake of personal safety, I'm not allowed to say.
SCP 106 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WoollyWitch,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Jlj1sojL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-21T21:55:02.543+0000) > > Yeah it's pretty common. All you can really do is laugh at them though. Honestly their funny people. Same with the ones who say "gg ez" at a win even though they went 0/15/2 the entire game while contributing nothing to objectives. > {{sticker:sg-lulu}} "gg ez" ??? what kind of beta says gg with it, I just straight up say "EZ" ;)
I'm old school, so I like to send them off with a "See you in Hell." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjLydnBdiFk
Obsedian (NA)
: Most people like a character for their abilities, lore and personality not because of how they look lol
Let me put it this way. As a writer, I have been taught to write a character before I write their appearance or gender. If your go-to for describing a character is about their appearance, then you have made a terrible character.
Obsedian (NA)
: Diversity in League of Legends
I'd rather they make a character I like than try to fulfill some arbitrary quota of the week.
Rioter Comments
: Legit, is Senna broken, or...?
No, it's because of what you have to deal with as a support on a regular basis, playing anything even loosely like a non-support will feel like you are cheating.
: New Support item = ff if adc goes dc?
It says something that all supports are complaining about this, and all non-supports are saying we should all just lay down and die if the ADC becomes dead weight.
: Not really no. Give me a list of terms i can't use, otherwise how do i know if i'm respecting the TOS? If I swear to you in french and the bot isn't localized, i still break the TOS but i won't get punished? And you just think that Riot will do the right thing in every situation while handling these cases? Dude, you're as blind as an iron player trying to learn yasuo mid.
How fucking stupid do you think I am? I'm not going to fall into the exact same fucking trap you did, and I'm not going to list the words so people can try to skirt past the auto-detect system.
: D1 Supp main here. Some useful stuff regarding support items:
I pointed out the exact same thing last month and got mass downvoted for it. I hope the people who didn't believe me or can't do the math get eaten by a bear.
FireSlxys (EUNE)
: Turn off new map effects from settings
40 FPS? Dear god, how will you survive?
: Queue support > Lock in Xerath with TP > Poke during laning phase > Get turret FB > TP where you need to be in time > split lanes safely = win games
Problem is there's now a penalty for killing too many minions as a support, and it's a VERY low number.
Ph03n1xb1rd (EUNE)
: Yes, because i'm supposed to know what happened to a random person's LoL account on the other side of the world.... Most of the players do not read Boards, how the fck would they even know how it works?
Ignorance is no excuse. The TOS is very clear about it.
Rioter Comments
MickuPgBz (EUW)
: Please don't keep support items this way.
It's 1500 gold that is being spent elsewhere. It's better this way. What ISN'T better this way is the gold penalty you get from killing too many minions. More often than not, the support is the only one pushing or defending anything.
: wdy mean and? u cant be racist towards ur own race lol
Hitler was half-Jewish. That didn't stop him from blaming the Jews for all of Germany's woes and leading a genocide. Either way, it doesn't matter. You can claim yourself to be anything; we have no way to prove it. That doesn't give you protection from anything, anyways.
: Chat banned for no reason
If you think you'd be better off in my hands than in Riot's, guess again. I'd make Fyodor Karamazov look merciful, and Karamazov's one and only punishment for everyone who came before him was the death penalty, innocent and guilty alike.
rollz3 (NA)
: his weapon looks stupid, gonna end up stabbing himself
That... is an oversized Ulak blade. I don't know if Ulak blades were ever real or they were just a D&D weapon that appeared in Chronicles of Riddick (or if it's a Riddick weapon that appears in D&D), but the idea is they are stabbing weapons like a knife, shaped so that there is less strain on the wrist when making a stab by having the shock and impact focused more on the blade itself rather than your fragile wrist, and the weight distribution feels more natural. The curved blade in front of your wrist also doubles as a finger guard. That being said... it's extremely oversized, so it couldn't do any of that.
: Does the system think I'm toxic if i type anime related japanese curses at people for fun?
If you don't know what the words are... just don't. I've seen this happen many times before, and it never ended well for anybody.
: seems kinda like a 'rant' section post to me
No, this is a behavior problem in the community that needs to be punished and punished HARD. Riot's too motherfucking goddamn soft for this god-forsaken community and needs to purge it to within an inch of its life if it's going to be salvaged.
Rioter Comments
: This just in: Local goldie barely learns what Diamond+ players have been explaining all along.
Except I've been explaining this and posting dozens of threads about it for the past five years.
Blaxonec (EUNE)
: I agree with you mate. I saw your rank - gold. In gold elo players are chasing kills. Like no brain chasing kills. And after they got a kill they get back to lane to farm (not to take dragon, turret, herald, baron, inhib). I had such tilting games where we were so much ahead but the team refused to end the game because they want to be so fed .... so so fed that they feel it like a bot game. The intersting thing about this elo is that the team behind is playing to survive and by that they do some objectives when they can. That leads them to victory. Just by typing that I got some really bad memories from that elo. Platinium 2+ is better for sure. Currently playing at Diamond 4. I had just 1 game (1 of all in thi elo) when we got baron and our jungler just went directly at our jungle and farmed instead of getting inhibs/towers .... yep we lost that game. As support player I always try to set up the team by telling them what to do. Like EVERYTIME I set up an invade from the lobby. Guess what, people in gold just dont listen , they do whatever they want which leads to very very bad invades. Like you ping him with danger to NOT GO there... well its his karma to go in there. In Plat 2+ and Diamond 4 when i say we invade.... folks are really invading. They are like a mini soldiers right there. I love it. Hate it that rank will reset and gonna go through all that again.
The thing is, everyone says every rank above their current one doesn't do it... but they all fucking do it. The entire fucking community fucking does it, going all the way up to and beyond the professional teams in the world tournament. In any other sport, that sort of mentality is beaten out of you miles before you even catch a fleeting glimpse of bush league status on the horizon.
: I agree, but its not as easy as you make it sound.. When a team steam rolls their lanes, those "objectives" become nearly impossible to take, because that collective enemy team can 1 shot half your team even when half of them are in side lanes. The damage creep and damage output in the game is excessively high. The only way, ONLY way a winning team loses is if they throw in a big way.. for over a year now, not seen a single game where the winning started losing and lost because the enemy team did everything right.. They only lost because they threw in a big way.
I very nearly won a game earlier because I focused on pushing lanes, even though I lost my lane because the enemy just kept flash ult ignite dumping me under the tower. Even camping my lane, as an entire team, because I guess they thought I was the person who murdered their entire extended family or something. I just focused on building as much attack speed and damage as possible, focused on pushing back the lanes if they got anywhere close to any of our turrets, and while my team dealt with them, shoved the lanes as hard as possible and took out what turrets I could before they would inevitably hunt me down to try and flash ult ignite dump me again. I managed to take out one and a half entire lanes, including an inhibitor, before I hit the dead end and we lost from attrition. Part of being able to successfully... anything, is having variety in the team. I've used the term overspecialization before, which means focusing on one thing so exclusively that you end up sucking at basically everything else. It's unavoidable on a champion-by-champion basis to specialize in one role, even if you do have some control over what a champion can do via builds, but when entire teams focus on doing one thing, and that thing ends up being the exact same thing, or they have the exact same attack patterns or movements or damage types, that's dangerous and not in the way that favors them. If you have a team of Zed, Yasuo, Talon, Vayne, and Pyke (and this isn't a contrived scenario; this exact lineup comes up a lot), then you have an overspecialized team that has nothing to fall back on once trying to nuke down the enemy team stops working, and the situations in which that doesn't work is vast. More so if the enemy is paying attention.
arowin242 (EUW)
: 'objectives win games, kills are but a means to an end.' flashy plays are nice and all, but they can always horribly backfire and end up losing you the game. they are simply not worth the risk in my opinion the best player are the best, because they how how to turn something like a CS or EXP advantage into an objective advantage and snowball further from there. this is why herald is so important, why mountain drake (used) to be important. hell, this is why _inting sion_ worked. ZZ'rot portal? same idea. kills are nice, they can be fun. but unless you translate that advantage that you (might) have gotten from it into an objective based one, It will NOT have mattered. That's all.
I made another thread elsewhere about how stupid theatrics get you killed. I've seen it happen to the enemy team, I've seen it happen to my team. More importantly, a good player knows how to play when behind, and it's not just conceding all objectives and towers to the enemy without contest. It's not spamming the surrender button until the Nexus explodes and it's not attempting to just constantly teamfight and hoping you'd win while screwing over your own team to get the kills and conceding every objective to the enemy team. I'm always running through plans and countermeasures to take an objective or press an advantage while I see people declare victory way, WAY too soon and either retire to the jungle, the fountain, or flap their mastery dick over the enemy corpse. Sooner than the [2003 Mission Accomplished Speech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Accomplished_speech) soon.
Dynikus (NA)
: >It's about objectives. You've unlocked the secret to victory, my friend. League is and pretty much always has been primarily a macro game.
That's the fucked part, though. It isn't a secret. Most of the community just... forgot it when they decided to focus exclusively on becoming the killfastest killfast of Killfastia.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Op8uT0TW,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-14T22:15:52.167+0000) > > It isn't about which team fed more. It isn't about who didn't group for a teamfight. It's about objectives. Stopped reading there actually. If you feed the {{champion:11}} {{champion:157}} for example, the game is 100% over. All the teamplay or objectives won't matter anymore.
And you are probably falling into the same trap of "I just need to burst harder than them and I'll win.", and never think to have any kind of crowd control or tank up against them, OR you expect to just 1v9 the entire enemy team, and that's your one and only tactic for all situations.
Rioter Comments
: Cannabis as a Performance Enhancing Drug
Someone I queued up with said he needed to go do something. I wait, getting wrapped up in my personal projects, and half an hour later, the guy turns his mic back on and tells me that he was so high, he didn't realize that we weren't even in a game and had just been sitting in the lobby for the past half-hour. I removed him from my contacts list immediately after that. I honestly wouldn't know whether or not it's a PED, given that everyone I meet brags about how high they are just to make themselves sound cool (though they end up sounding like they don't realize they had shat themselves at least seven times), and testing it myself would be pointless since I'm almost immune to most things.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: He was an anti-mage champ. Before his moronic rework
I miss some of Galio's old skills. Bulwark was a giant plate of self-healing cheese, and I liked being able to give a crowd a speed boost. But this is better. I love getting the kill with Galio's massive prehensile fist.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Galio is a tank antimage
Except the whole idea is he closes the gap with mages with Justice Punch, taunts them, and they hit him like a wet noodle with their basic attacks while he dunks them up to their necks into the ground with Colossal Smash. Yeah, he can build armor and be your generic tanky bruiser, but his damage reduction and Colossal Smash scale with Magic Resistance. There are a lot of mages who fold like Superman on laundry day the instant they get into melee. Those are the people he's meant to squish. And there's nothing like taking a full Vel'Koz barrage to the face and have it not even scratch the paint.
: The League of Legends community has a reading problem
I have caused more than a few players over the years to scream in a combination of terror and anger until they started puking blood over me using proper spelling and punctuation, and many more times than that have been permabanned for how bad they tilted over it.
Kazekiba (NA)
: Riot's hidden Gold mine - Untapped
Galio's ult? What about Galio's passive?
paehko (NA)
: You do realize that on the players perspective, today might be the only day they have available time to be online on league to rank up before season ends. Its been a whole 10 years and as a huge company with huge earnings it really says a lot when Riot is unable to figure out their client problems for a decade. As of the moment due to log-in traffic I am unable to go into the game. No problem for me, but if problems like this continue to persist for the next 20 years, its a really big headache to not only me but most players.
Again, sometimes shit happens, and you're mad if you think a player would be able to just crunch their way to gold or whatever in one day, because that's what you're implying.
Rioter Comments
: The best solution is to become a masochist and learn to love this kind of behaviour.
Or grow a pair, become a sadist, and learn to stop playing second banana to a spoiled little fuck knuckle of an ADC. If they can't learn to keep up with a support, then they don't deserve to be an ADC.
: Pantheon Mains... who do you struggle to play against?
No one. With the kind of shit I regularly have to deal with as a support, playing Pantheon feels like I'm cheating.
: You can not get a token on the game you hit Mastery 5 with if I recall correctly. It has happened to me once as well.
I believe it happened with me before... but that was a year and a half ago. When I did it recently, it didn't, either.
86400 (NA)
: You got lucky, just accept it.
It's amazing how much people in this god-forsaken community will move the goalposts of what counts as a victory in order to make themselves feel better about any losses they incur. "The enemy team didn't win, they're just playing as broken-ass champions." "That ADC didn't win; he just got lucky." "That support didn't win; supports are freeloading %%%%%%%%%%s that can't play a REAL role." "That tank didn't win; tanks are inherently broken." "That mage didn't win; Rito favors mages because of LCS play." And so on and so on.
86400 (NA)
: I saw a QTpie vid yesterday where he was laughing at BT as a first item because it's an awful choice.
It stops being funny when the opponent you're laughing at and mocking suddenly feeds you a combo platter of crow and your own ass.
5050BS (NA)
: Its called bad coding and champ favoritism
Right, because Riot has shown nothing but favoritism towards Braum.
musixxal (EUW)
: animation cancelling?
It depends on the champion and the skill. As far as I'm aware, it mostly affects skills that are on-hit. It's a small burst of power by most efficiently managing the timing between your basic attacks and skills, but then Riven's power is extremely dependent on that timing, and it gives her a much larger burst of power because of her passive and the way her skills work.
: Stop cutting your own junglers off of their gold and xp, k?
I'm a support, I don't do that shit; there's more than way too much to do because everyone retires to the jungle for ten minutes after the laning phase ends. Though I'll sometimes help the jungler with a buff or an extra shot if I happen to be passing by.
: What to do when feeling worthless and lost
I don't know. This is why "git gud" is complete shit advice. It's not like you could just go to the "gud" store and "git" a can of "gud". People learn in different ways, and have different speeds and capacities of learning. It ultimately comes down to practice and pattern recognition. Much of the game's learning curve is learning the pattern of enemy movements and actions. As much as it sucks, all champions encourage moving and acting in predictable ways, and if you can see this pattern, the game becomes much easier, even if you're playing a champion you don't understand.
Show more

Lost R

Level 138 (NA)
Lifetime Upvotes
Create a Discussion