Fasmodey (EUW)
: Aatrox feels like his power level in lore went up.
Idk man old aatrox seemed pretty damn powerful. Powerful enough to fill entire armies with enough rage to overcome their enemies at the brink of destruction? Powerful enough to appear in the midst of a battle and completely turn it around, completely changing the course of history? Powerful enough to literally survive every single great war in the history of runeterra and be hailed as both a hero and demon through stories of great battles for as long as written history exists in runeterra? Literally a god of war that is indestructible? Pretty damn powerful if you ask me.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: He does. That's not the problem. But it is annoying to see every power wielder trying to be funny. I can handle Aurelion Sol, because it is delivered better. It is less annoying, less forced and IMO Aurelion Sol is a more serious champion, even with this personality. He is also like one of the first of his kind, powerful champion with fun personality. Aatrox is the last offender. It boils your blood when something starts to be overused. So I like Aurelion Sol, compare to Memetrox.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WUEZpgxW,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-06-12T22:24:59.890+0000) > > He does. That's not the problem. > > But it is annoying to see every power wielder trying to be funny. > > I can handle Aurelion Sol, because it is delivered better. It is less annoying, less forced and IMO Aurelion Sol is a more serious champion, even with this personality. He is also like one of the first of his kind, powerful champion with fun personality. Aatrox is the last offender. It boils your blood when something starts to be overused. > > So I like Aurelion Sol, compare to Memetrox. MEMETROX REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Rioter Comments
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 8
When can we expect some news about the aatrox ework?
: The assasin update has been nothing short of a complete failure
Well Fizz and Shaco have an unbalanceable kit that are both iconic and Riot will refuse to change them in any significant way. I think Talon's rework turned out great. I mean sure he kills people faster than they can react and is highly mobile, but that's who he is. That's Talon. He kills people really really fast but uses all of his resources to do so. If he doesn't kill you in 2 seconds he'll lose the fight. Maybe his numbers are a little overtuned, but kit wise I think he's fine. Rengar and LB are "balanceable" but balance in their case means extreme feast or famine. They'll either snowball and wreck everyone or they'll be completely useless. Kind of annoying to play against and can honestly make them unreliable picks. Their reworks were total failures, so they got reverted. Assassins are hard to balance in general, though. You're trying to make a class that instakills people fast enough to be useful but not so fast that they can't be counter played, but if they can be counter played they can't kill people fast enough and it just goes on and on. The really hard part is trying to make them all different. THey do the same thing: They one shot the carry. That's all they do. Some are capable of split pushing pretty well (Talon and Rengar come to mind), but by doing so they aren't one shotting the carry and therefore not doing what they're supposed to be doing. This just makes the whole assassin class a big mess. They can only do one thing, and if they can't do that one thing very well they're useless, but if they do that one thing very well they're really strong and annoying to play against. They're all pigeon holed into doing the same exact thing, at the same efficiency, at the same time, in slightly different ways. If you line them all up you can see why they're so hard to balance. {{champion:84}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:238}} Ekko, Riven, Nocturne and Kai'Sa maybe aren't TRUE assassins, but they're very capable of doing the same things that all the other real assassins are. I don't consider Teemo or Vayne assassins even though Riot labels them as such. I've seen all of these champions be balancing nightmares for ages and just look at their kits. They all have some really crazy bs in their kit that makes them annoying as hell to play against, but if they can't do that one gimmick really well they're useless. {{champion:84}} Farms out till 6 then makes you her bitch {{champion:245}} Hard to catch, huge shield, mistake eraser ultimate {{champion:28}} Crazy burst, passive invisibility {{champion:105}} E {{champion:145}} Very very very long engage {{champion:55}} AoE team melter {{champion:141}} Can get inside of you and pop out of a wall to kill you faster than you can even react. {{champion:121}} Isolation boost {{champion:7}} Can one shot you at level 3 (Maybe not anymore, I haven't seen her in so long idek what she's capable of) {{champion:56}} Blinded from allies, spell shield, point and click engage {{champion:107}} Leaps from bushes, possibly highest burst in game (might need some number checking, but it sure feels like it) {{champion:92}} CC, 4 dashes, shield that scales with AD, can seem very overbearing in the right hands {{champion:35}} Clones, boxes, and Q {{champion:91}} Very good at roaming, scary high burst {{champion:238}} Shadows and ult idek what I'm talking about in this post tbh assassins are personally my favorite class in the game, but I understand the problems they have.
pistoria (NA)
: if you were to remove any ability from any champion what would it be?
Rioter Comments
: Fix the goddam death recap.
Yesterday I died from 146 true damage from Alpha Strike. Alpha doesn't do true damage. There was not a yi in that game.
: im convinced people treat you poorly based on the character you play
oh believe me, they do if you pick {{champion:266}} your team will ignore you if you're doing good and judge you EXTRA hard when you make a mistake When you do good you get nothing When you make a simple mistake "Aatrox such a useless champion" "wow troll pick" Literally I get "are you trolling?" in pre game if I pick aatrox.....
Rioter Comments
: Neither of these are accurate, just dumb hyperbolic statements? Zed's ult isn't going to be buffed to 60 seconds and fiddles ult isn't getting reduced by a minute either.
> [{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=G4vY3AXE,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-02-19T01:03:39.467+0000) > > Neither of these are accurate, just dumb hyperbolic statements? Zed's ult isn't going to be buffed to 60 seconds and fiddles ult isn't getting reduced by a minute either. Already done and coming in next patch I believe lol
: If people were to ask you how "brain-dead" is your champion, how'd you describe it?
{{champion:266}} all u have to do is afk bc youre useless anyways :DDDD
Leonerdo (NA)
: When I mention Top-lane Challengers, it's to prove the point that it is still possible to have a big impact on the game from Top lane. You _can_ carry from Top lane. That doesn't mean much for the overall popularity of Top lane. But if people are going to say shit like "It's impossible to carry as Top-laner. Junglers decide my lane, and ADCs decide the game. All I can do is play a tank and hope by team isn't garbage," with all the absolute language included, then I'm gonna throw down the easy disproof by giving one counterexample: "So how did the #5 Challenger player get there by playing top-lane fighters?"
> [{quoted}](name=Leonerdo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hIEAcLQ2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-02-06T20:49:24.216+0000) > > When I mention Top-lane Challengers, it's to prove the point that it is still possible to have a big impact on the game from Top lane. You _can_ carry from Top lane. > > That doesn't mean much for the overall popularity of Top lane. But if people are going to say shit like "It's impossible to carry as Top-laner. Junglers decide my lane, and ADCs decide the game. All I can do is play a tank and hope by team isn't garbage," with all the absolute language included, then I'm gonna throw down the easy disproof by giving one counterexample: "So how did the #5 Challenger player get there by playing top-lane fighters?" I mean yeah you can carry with absolutely anything. You could get to challenger just playing AP Support Aatrox every game, but that doesn't mean it's viable or popular.
: What Does Tahm Kench Do Exactly?
So basically he's the devil He'll give you anything you want, but with dire consequences.
: Is there any champion you have fun playing against?
I like playing against my mains. It feels fun because I know how to play against them really well and I know what they're gonna do. I also really like playing against vel'koz because he's pretty well balanced.
: Keystones in a Nutshell
I totally forgot predator even existed until I saw this
: On average, the game is very balanced. Folks just complain about individual issues with certain champs ("individual" as in: they cannot play around it and they assume that whatever playstyle THEY chose always has to work in all situations). Further, people forget one thing (although, in all fairness, the ranking system encourages people to forget): LOL is and will always be a team game - champions are balanced (and have to be balanced) around their impact in TEAM situations. In addition, the game has stages, and champions do well in different stages for each game. For (a super simple) example, if you get an all damage, all early team comp, and you lose against triple tank with Veigar and Tristana because the game goes to 50 minutes, that does NOT mean the game is "unbalanced". It means you did not play to your TEAM's victory condition. Thinking that every individual player with whatever champ they "master" should be able to solo-carry themselves to Challenger divisions is WRONG. It is a myth spread by those who got lucky and got there, and people believe it and now call the game "unbalanced" because they feel they have mastered a champion, but still there are situations when they can do shit. And yes, there are also different "metas" - playing Katarina all the time works well sometimes (assassin, carry, squishy meta), and it doesnt work well at other times (tank meta). That's how it is.
> [{quoted}](name=Mephisto3,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TKBANlsh,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-29T17:08:01.485+0000) > > On average, the game is very balanced. Folks just complain about individual issues with certain champs ("individual" as in: they cannot play around it and they assume that whatever playstyle THEY chose always has to work in all situations). > > Further, people forget one thing (although, in all fairness, the ranking system encourages people to forget): LOL is and will always be a team game - champions are balanced (and have to be balanced) around their impact in TEAM situations. > > In addition, the game has stages, and champions do well in different stages for each game. For (a super simple) example, if you get an all damage, all early team comp, and you lose against triple tank with Veigar and Tristana because the game goes to 50 minutes, that does NOT mean the game is "unbalanced". It means you did not play to your TEAM's victory condition. > > Thinking that every individual player with whatever champ they "master" should be able to solo-carry themselves to Challenger divisions is WRONG. It is a myth spread by those who got lucky and got there, and people believe it and now call the game "unbalanced" because they feel they have mastered a champion, but still there are situations when they can do shit. > > And yes, there are also different "metas" - playing Katarina all the time works well sometimes (assassin, carry, squishy meta), and it doesnt work well at other times (tank meta). That's how it is. {{champion:142}} Balanced ya say
: Did you know that those two items appeared in Spongebob Squarepants before being added to League?
https://i.imgur.com/8pxY7c7.png remembers when they invented chawcolate
: It's one thing to not be able to move through minions.
http://food.fnr.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/food/fullset/2008/3/5/0/NY0100_BBQ-Spaghetti.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.616.462.suffix/1371585656631.jpeg
Runosek (NA)
: Anyone else tired of nasus?
Laning against Nasus: {{champion:75}}: "Dis is my lane. Deez are my minions. Geet out and let me stack or I will simply stack off of you."
: Why Zoe Recast can ignore silence but not Velkoz
The more things like I see like this more I think "Why the fuck does this champion exist"
: Vladmir sucks
that was punny
Reiizm (NA)
: Stuck in Campaign mode. How to get to Piltover?
This was a mind fuck I came in here knowing it was a joke And then after seeing how many people continued the joke I went to the PBE to see how I could have missed something this big.
: Jax Facts.
This made me smile
: The reform card isn't indicative of the actual behavior. You were intentionally feeding as Nunu by running it down bot and then AFKed. You have a history of this type of behavior as well as playing Kench, and throwing people into the enemy. I will be escalating this to a ban. Here is your post game chat: let me tell u a secret u dont get banned for trolling as long as u keep up in level and u dont feed tickets dont work The system does pick this stuff up. However, it isn't always easy for the system to decide what evidence to give in cases like this. The trolling ends here.
ñidalee (NA)
: Buying upgraded boots while using magical footwear on a full inventory
So Tabis build out of cloth armor and boots, so why can't it just replace your cloth armor with the tabis? Once you upgraded into the Tabis it would be taking up only one slot anyways, so if had to sell something else to get the boots and then upgrade you're left with an empty slot. Maybe that would be game breaking in some way, idk. You can do it with other items, though. Let's say I had a full inventory. 5 complete items and then a long sword. If I had enough gold to buy a Hydra with that long sword, it would just replace the longsword in my inventory, despite not having any other components. Why can't this work with the free-ass boots?
NAT0R (NA)
: If you could delete one champ from the game, who would it be?
{{champion:420}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:420}}
Zeymul (NA)
: So how exactly does Riot choose which spells a champion has first, second, or third?
I can't remember where I saw they say it, but a few years ago I saw a rioter say that they typically follow it something like this (though not every champion follows this) Q: Usually they're damage or "bread and butter" ability W: Some kind of utility or mobility E: The more odd-ball spell. I don't remember exactly what they said but I believe it was something along those lines.
: Assassins can't kill Vayne
Vayne is an anti-assassin But is also an assassin. and an adc. and a tank shredder. She's in the anti-assassin assassin adc tank killer class. AKA the "Please nerf now" class.
: I mean what adc doesn't fear assassins even now.
: > It is a snack. > It is a fruit. I think you left out a really key word on these.
> [{quoted}](name=Leaf of the lake,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EHaYLR9E,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-01-22T04:19:17.371+0000) > > I think you left out a really key word on these. holy f you're right thank you for pointing that out
: uh shit what do I do if I ate one ???
> [{quoted}](name=BlueVestGuy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EHaYLR9E,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-22T03:38:38.661+0000) > > uh > shit > what do I do if I ate one ??? Hope that your prayers are answered
Besteau (NA)
: Jeez. I'm sorry you had to experience that. I don't understand why adults would want to do that.
> [{quoted}](name=Besteau,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EHaYLR9E,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-01-22T03:37:21.476+0000) > > Jeez. I'm sorry you had to experience that. I don't understand why adults would want to do that. I don't get it either, it's just ridiculous.
Rioter Comments
: Ever won a game you felt you didn't deserve?
Literally every time I play vayne
: Bronze is the Challeger.
> [{quoted}](name=Papa Andrei,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=N3gHls9d,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-01-18T08:15:17.679+0000) > > Bronze is the Challege**d**.
: "Hextech Chests Are Crap"
There's a rampant downvoter in these parts. Comes in and downvotes everything just because this post disagrees with his/her opinions.
Ormylar (NA)
: Red Bull, Hire Me
: In his new lore, Swain won't actually be the Grand General of Noxus.
: Sejuani: Me, Queen of Jungle. Qu- "Queen" Are u da queen? https://ytimg.googleusercontent.com/vi/FU9oiN8x6Y8/mqdefault.jpg?NoRedirect
SHE IS FAKE QUEEN SPEET ON HER BRUDAS *spit spit*
: Why go back to BO1?
I was thinking CoD this whole time LOL Bo1/Bo2 were the best call of duties btw (it's mathematically proven I am a math man I know these thinsg don't test me) (/s) I think BO3 is the best way to go.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=PG Sparky,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zhuZPH0y,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-01-19T15:03:03.975+0000) > > Hearthstone isn't a fair comparison. Riot makes cosmetics stuff. It doesn't make it a pay to win system. You can pay for champions but guess what if you put in work you can get those champions with no money. Its not like if i pay more money in league I will instantly be better like hearthstone. The 'boiling frog' analogy, look it up. Basically, making f2p currency decided by RNG and only handed on periodic basis to encourage players to pay up more money to deal with the system that intentionally makes earning f2p currency frustrating (that also arguably give you less currency value overall given the random champs purchase are removed, blue essence is now combined with IP but the calculation of equivalence was only made by comparing to IP only, and it was calculated on the basis that over a "long period of time" there will eventually be a small bonus which is just bulls), every skin is released with hefty price-tag pushing higher and higher (remember the days where the average skin releases were priced at 795 RP and lower? What about 975 RP being the average and default mark, instead of the current 1350 RP or higher being the norm and many new skins are locked behind gems and shit?), the incredible push of Riot's chase at the lootboxes craze like most other AAA devs (devs chase it because they realise they can simultaneously get away by locking stuff behind paywall, still call themselves f2p and whatever to act as if it's in good faith and have people defend it, and it will make people put large sums of money for it because they won't realise they end up spending more than direct purchase if they put in small bits of cash for a chance bit by bit), and nerfing OE significantly by like what 33% or 50% (?) and WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY BEFOREHAND.... what's next? I am aware I am using a slippery slope argument, which is often stated to be a fallacy, but honestly I believe not always. Things always start small. If you don't draw the line somewhere, what we end up with is that bullshit EA fiasco, and there is no guarentee that Riot won't end up there some day if we just let it pass every time under the tired mantra of "it's just cosmetic" or "but it's free". After all, Heathstone became a thing and there are still many people actively defend its clearly cynically bs business model, because of the company's fanbase has been, for a very long time, way too lenient on Blizz whenever they pull suspicious moves. I don't want it happen to League, even if it's beyond the foreseeable future.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=zhuZPH0y,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-01-19T15:21:46.927+0000) > > The 'boiling frog' analogy, look it up. > > Basically, making f2p currency decided by RNG and only handed on periodic basis to encourage players to pay up more money to deal with the system that intentionally makes earning f2p currency frustrating (that also arguably give you less currency value overall given the random champs purchase are removed, blue essence is now combined with IP but the calculation of equivalence was only made by comparing to IP only, and it was calculated on the basis that over a "long period of time" there will eventually be a small bonus which is just bulls), every skin is released with hefty price-tag pushing higher and higher (remember the days where the average skin releases were priced at 795 RP and lower? What about 975 RP being the average and default mark, instead of the current 1350 RP or higher being the norm and many new skins are locked behind gems and shit?), the incredible push of Riot's chase at the lootboxes craze like most other AAA devs (devs chase it because they realise they can simultaneously get away by locking stuff behind paywall, still call themselves f2p and whatever to act as if it's in good faith and have people defend it, and it will make people put large sums of money for it because they won't realise they end up spending more than direct purchase if they put in small bits of cash for a chance bit by bit), and nerfing OE significantly by like what 33% or 50% (?) and WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY BEFOREHAND.... what's next? > > I am aware I am using a slippery slope argument, which is often stated to be a fallacy, but honestly I believe not always. Things always start small. If you don't draw the line somewhere, what we end up with is that bullshit EA fiasco, and there is no guarentee that Riot won't end up there some day if we just let it pass every time under the tired mantra of "it's just cosmetic" or "but it's free". After all, Heathstone became a thing and there are still many people actively defend its clearly cynically bs business model, because of the company's fanbase has been, for a very long time, way too lenient on Blizz whenever they pull suspicious moves. > > I don't want it happen to League, even if it's beyond the foreseeable future. Hearthstone = **Pay to win** League of Legends = **Free to Play** **Free to Win** You gain literally nothing from skins. Nothing. It just looks cool. You can do just as well without them. They don't affect gameplay at all, and if they do it's because it distracts the other player or in some cases makes some particles hard to see (which is usually caught and corrected), but nothing meaningful. They could just take this system away. No more free skins for you, no more free skins for anybody. Then, if you want one you actually have to support their game for once. And btw, the slippery slope argument IS a logical fallacy. It isn't that it can be, it simply is. You're basically saying that because they allow you to get skins for free, they're soon going to start allowing you to affect gameplay by paying? I don't see it. Riot will NEVER allow things of monetary value to affect the gameplay of the largest eSports game. They're smarter than that. When they do that, the game can no longer be truly competitive the way they want it to be. They're not really going down a bad track with loot boxes. I mean I don't like the idea of their being a gambling system in the game, but they have made it possible for you to obtain almost all of the premium content of the game for free. It's not mathematically possible, but theoretically you can obtain everything for free. Every skin, every ward skin, every emote, everything. Some (very very few) things are locked behind skill walls, but absolutely nothing HAS to be bought with money. Hell, if you look at the Honor rewards this season you can get Medieval Twitch or Grey Warwick (Which are very very old skins that you used to get for recruiting players to the game. They're extremely rare skins.), and you get one of them FOR FREE just for getting HONORED. I wouldn't complain about them handing out free stuff.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: January 19
Hey Meddler, any word about possible Aatrox changes? He's after Irelia right? Do you guys have any baseline ideas you're willing to share yet?
: They cause massive spikes sure, but I've made far too many comebacks after enemy fb and ft to say they were beyond redemption.
I mean yeah I've come back as well, it's always possible. Just not probable.
: I'm gonna be honest, games being shorter doesn't actually bother me
I like having short games, but not with this meta. The games are short because first blood and first tower will snowball the game out of control.
: Best Rank?
This post is taking my mind through a whirl
: Orange essence is a fucking joke.
I mean they're a business They require money to continue producing this game I don't blame them at all.
Nayzumi (NA)
: Top lane is by far the most miserable lane to play in right now.
Just play {{champion:75}} or {{champion:420}} past level 6 you will not be getting ganked
: When will Lux get a new skin?
Wuks (NA)
: For YOUR eyes only owo
This got me trippin balls
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