: That's what I was thinking too, I'm guessing {{champion:84}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:157}} and {{champion:238}} do pretty well into him as well.
Even a good {{champion:58}} can beat him if he uses his dash correctly.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lugg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rEatbUzv,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T22:03:31.364+0000) > > Kayne has plenty of ways to get out with his Q, E, and R. Plus he usually doesn't have to worry about getting out because he one shots whoever he goes on, even if he's behind. R only allows him to dash to an enemy, e has to generally be used in order to get into a fight, and even if he has it up, it’s stupidly limited in combat, q is his main damage source, if he uses it to escape, he has no kill threat and even then. Small dash with a animation lock delay. Also, if you are getting one shot by a kayn who is behind, that says more about you than him.
Kayn's Q has basically no CD and his R gives his E time to get off CD. Plus his R allows him to dodge abilities and he can chose which way to exit (usually to the nearest wall so he can E out there). He's one of the slipperiest champs in the game.
: Why is their even a Master Yi?
Yi needs a rework. He is the most binary champion in the entire game. He's either unbeatable or worthless depending on the team comps.
Fegone (NA)
: Unpopular opinion - NB3
He talked with his ADC before the game and the ADC was fine with the strategy. So he didn't troll in the slightest and definitely shouldn't have been banned. NB3 using connections to get the guy banned should put him under consideration for a perma ban.
: Tahm kench
The Grey health on Tahm and Pyke is way overpowered. It needs to have about half the healing early in game, and scale up with levels in the ability.
: Can we give GLP its hp back and remove the mana please.
Just build Protobelt instead. Problem solved.
intra (NA)
: NB3 is right in every aspect of this drama. Come and try to change my mind.
The Teemo strategy works, that alone completely nullifies NB3's argument and he should be suspended until he publicly apologizes.
SiG DxD (EUNE)
: did riot nerf kayle's stats a bit too much ?
Not at all. He's still a God tier champion.
Hocker (NA)
: POLL: If You Had 10 Gemstones Right Now...
I have played thousands of game since the gemstones became available, and I've only gotten ONE. Rito needs to make it where you get one automatically every time you go up ten levels.
: Does Riot actually listen to its playerbase?
Riot only listens to people who have enough backing to hurt their product. They pretty much ignore the other 90%.
: Mordekaiser is OP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's OP only if you allow him to play his game. Take a high mobility ranged champ into him and he's pretty weak.
: Nightblue and Nubrac
The fact that Nubrac is winning games totally nullifies NB3's argument.
: RIot, Nightblue3 represents a toxic community and you are backing him. He's streaming now unpunished
: Morde vs Kat is a fun matchup.... for Kat.
Morde is pretty weak vs high mobility champions. If you can avoid or get out of his E, he's not much of a threat. His win rate is so high because people pick slow melee tanks and bruisers into him, which is exactly what he's designed to beat.
: Is it hard to climb from Bronze in solo queue?
Iron and Bronze aren't that bad once you know what to do. Silver is much harder because you will face one or two people on the enemy team good enough to snowball and carry if your team feeds.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lugg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rEatbUzv,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-12T22:30:54.511+0000) > > Kayn is very low risk like every other assassin other than Diana. They can jump in, do absurd amounts of damage, and EASILY get out alive if you are skilled at all. They are harder to kill than the damn tanks if they get any lead at all. Tell me. How does kayn get out once he is in? And he does absurd damage because he has a 3 second window to do it. Then he becomes worthless for 8 seconds.
Kayne has plenty of ways to get out with his Q, E, and R. Plus he usually doesn't have to worry about getting out because he one shots whoever he goes on, even if he's behind.
: Morde is far more powerful than Darius now, because Rylai's fully applies and happens to make him 1 item godly: both activates his move speed bonus, AND slows the person he's chasing. Only Hard CC or Master Yi can beat that.
Darius can easily beat him early in lane and snowball before Morde can even get his first item. Plus mobile ranged champions destroy him unless the mess up.
Saezio (EUNE)
: Are we gonna completely ignore the fact he is useless pre transform and your jungler can pretty much bully him to oblivion?
Kayn is actually decent before he transforms and good luck catching him with his mobility
: Please nerf mordekaiser! Just played against him. ULT OP!!!!!!
My first game against him started out pretty rough, but once you learn how he's played, there are plenty of ways to beat him by playing around his CDs. Plus he can be kited in his ult just like outside it.
: Morde 55% wr on day 1 in diamond +
Morde basically ignored by Riot for 8 seasons, all of a sudden he's "one of their favorites". Give me a break. He's a bit overtuned right now, but they will have that fixed in a patch or two. Unlike some of the new champs and reworks that were literally broken OP for 6 months or more.
: New Morde seems kinda overloaded
Overloaded?!!! I don't think that word means what you think it means. Just compare his kit to Gangplank and get back to me.
BboyCico (EUNE)
: Patch 9.12 and destroying Ryze !
I just played Ryze today and I LOVE the changes. He felt so much smoother and I was able to carry pretty easily.
: Update Mordekaiser R against qss and other simliar things
I just love the double standard at Riot. When Zed was being denied by an item, they hotfixed that shit the very next day.
: You do realize kayn is an assassin right? And he is high risk meh reward.
Kayn is very low risk like every other assassin other than Diana. They can jump in, do absurd amounts of damage, and EASILY get out alive if you are skilled at all. They are harder to kill than the damn tanks if they get any lead at all.
: Too much Burst in the game
There's been too much damage in the game for over 3 seasons now. It's literally League of Damage. They could cut damage across the board by 25% and people still would be getting bursted out.
Xavanic (NA)
: first of all, the least conditional dmg of any Juggernaut is darius bleed, he has to hit you once with nearly anything and he gets it, but yeah, it does feel a little ridiculous, i feel what should happen is one of these things 1. Cut passive dmg in half, grant an additional tick of passive dmg on morde AA's 2. Cut in half, but allow morde shield to scale (Rn it stays at 30/15 let it scale to say 60/30 or something) 3. Cut in half, but give morde hyrbid ratios (legit, there is very limited options for manaless ap champs rn) 4. Cut in half, but give morde 2 charges of Q
I think they need to lower his passive damage and move that power into his shield/heal and his W damage since it's a skillshot that can be outplayed.
Moody P (NA)
: Mord passive is too strong and too reliable
Morde has TONS of counterplay. Just don't let him get on you. It's literally no different than facing Darius, except that if Morde misses his pull, you have a HUGE window to abuse him. Half the champions in the game have abilities and passives that proc on 3 hits.
Tyvan (NA)
: Anyone else think Dragon Knight Morde feels, unfinished?
Personally, I think Dragon Knight is his worst skin by far. My fav is Lord Mordekaiser.
: as an assassin player i really hate Morde on my team
You will always have trolls doing things like that in game.
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Riot Jag (NA)
: Teemo changes temporarily on PBE for early feedback, part 2
If you are going to nerf Teemo's damage because of the invis, please nerf the damage on ALL the stealth champions. Every single one of them needs the nerf.
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: Oh look, tyler 1 ragequitting/trolling/inting on ranked games again!
They definitely need to ban him again. His antics cause a significant amount of the player base to copy him. This is why I literally have to report people every 2-3 games.
Zerenza (NA)
: I think more abilities should grant True Sight, like all of Lux's abilities for example. But i don't think basic abilities that reveal area's should reveal invisible champions. The reason why is because it's not fair to the user of the stealth to have an entire mechanic of their shut down by a simple button press. Stealth champions usually take a lot of effort to use their stealth and sacrifice a lot in order to keep it, Evelynn has 0 engage and 1 disengage and she's an assassin, assassin run rampant with like 3 dashes/blinks each but because she has perma stealth, she can't have those things. Twitch and current Kha'Zix(who is getting nerfed for this) are the only exceptions that i see where they don't sacrifice anything for it. Leblanc and Talon legit have 1 second of stealth, Shaco has 1 engage and 1 disengage, and its on his Stealth ability, meaning he has to make the active choice to use it for one or the other and that's what makes it fair to me. Like, i understand there aren't enough abilities that reveal them but AOE reveals shouldn't reveal them, i think you should have to actively try to reveal them with say a Lux E. TLDR: You should have to pay a Reasonable Price when trying to shut down a champions entire kit, Control Wards are barely reasonable because they cover the "Active Decision" part of trying to counter Stealth, you need to actually make the decision to buy the Control Ward, knowing an evelynn is on the enemy team and i think that's much better than trying to give people more inherent power in their kits.
You state that it's not fair to user to have an entire mechanic of theirs shut down by a simple button click. However, there are a LOT of champions without stealth that have this very problem due to enemy abilities or items. Stealth is one of the strongest abilities in the game, there needs to be strong counters for it. Evelyn doesn't really have any drawbacks on her stealth. Once she gets it at 6, she has it on all the time whenever not in combat. She really doesn't give up much for it either. You say she doesn't have any engage, but she has the stealth and her charm as great engages. Plus with all the MS runes and items in the game, it's so simple to catch anyone in the game if you play correctly. I agree that Twitch and K6 don't give up anything for stealth. LB and Talon only get a short stealth because they have some of the highest mobility in the game. Control wards are nice, but you can only place one and there are several ways to get to your champ without being seen by one.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Lugg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1qvr8H0R,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2018-05-12T15:57:32.230+0000) > > I've played since the end of season 3. The only time games were ever close to being balanced was the tank meta in Season 5 or 6 (?). Games went about 45 minutes and were actually close since, if you fell behind early, you could stall out long enough to get back in it. Then it was actual skill that determined who won the game, since the stupid snowball champs became less relevant. Actual skill? Do you mean the team that had a Ziggs that could stall the game all day long so they could catch up is a measure of skill? Games that take 45 mins for everyone to get back in its not even close to be balanced.
In order to close out a game early, you had to actually be good. Right now it has nothing to do with actual skill since snowball champs are just way too strong and just one shot people with zero counterplay. Being able to stall out a weak early game to get back into it is actual balance if it takes some skill to stall games.
Lugg (NA)
: I think Glacial is the most underrated Keystone in the game. It's amazing on some champions.
Any champion that needs to kite or stick to their opponent is great with Glacial. Plus if you get one of the slowing items, the keystone turns into an AoE slow which helps your entire team.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lugg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1qvr8H0R,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-11T04:39:22.130+0000) > > I agree. 90% of games are a complete stomp one side or the other. The matchmaking is about as bad as humanly possible. First season playing? It has been like this all the way and is not the matchmaking, this wont change ever because is the nature of 5 randoms vs 5 randoms.
I've played since the end of season 3. The only time games were ever close to being balanced was the tank meta in Season 5 or 6 (?). Games went about 45 minutes and were actually close since, if you fell behind early, you could stall out long enough to get back in it. Then it was actual skill that determined who won the game, since the stupid snowball champs became less relevant.
: So about glacial augment.. thoughts?
I think Glacial is the most underrated Keystone in the game. It's amazing on some champions.
: Fiora is still as strong as she ever was. Problem is the deathball snowball meta. Fiora cannot contribute in such a climate. If you're 10-0 and the enemy team starts grouping and mowing down shit, Fiora can't do shit with that lead because she is all about dueling and splitting. Every game now is 10 minutes to see which team feeds and the rest of the game is the fed team grouping and just rolling over shit, taking drags, rift and Baron. Hardly any opportunity for 1v1 or 2v1 skirmishes which is where Fiora shines.
R0XTAR (NA)
: What happened to Yasuo??
Yas needs a rework worse than any champ in league history. The new IE is going to make him perma banned and never played again at any level. So they may as well just piss off the mains now and rework him immediately.
: Can we get some acknowledge that game quality below plat has never been worse
I agree. 90% of games are a complete stomp one side or the other. The matchmaking is about as bad as humanly possible.
: Please learn how to play with a zoe on your team...?
I have to be honest, Zoe needs a complete, from the ground up rework. Her kit is the worst thing Riot has ever come up with and it's horrible for the game.
Risen29 (NA)
: Orrn's unstoppable nerf was so unnecessary
I agree. They should have nerfed a different part of his kit.
Mob Piru (NA)
: silver elo is such a joke
If you think Silver is bad, try Bronze. I'm trying to get one of my accounts out of it and it's ridiculous. I stomp my lane but then I can't carry because the other four enemies are fed af before I can even do a roam to help other lanes. ELO hell is definitely real. Anyone who tells you different either climbed duo or was boosted.
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: Marksman changes coming to PBE in the next couple days
The biggest thing I am looking forward to is more rarely played ADCs like Morde, Ziggs, Kennen, etc. It makes the game so much more fun when the ADC can go AP and then the rest of the team has the choice of playing an AD champ.
: Marksman changes coming to PBE in the next couple days
SOOOOOOOOOOOO frigging happy to see Riot has finally woken up to the fact that ADCs are WAY overpowered. It needs to be that if you pick a hyper carry bot (unless of course you are facing another hyper), you are accepting the fact that you are probably going to lose lane and not be a factor for the first 20 minutes or more. That alone will make the game so much better. Players who don't play ADC will now have the opportunity to actually carry games. The biggest plus of this is going to watch all those high ELO ADC main streamers drop in ranked like a stone since they won't be winning solely on playing OP champs.
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