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Myrmiron (EUW)
: Viktor is premade with GP and Janna just has really good MMR with her 63% winrate. Everything makes sense if you think about it longer than 2 seconds. Also you still have high MMR because you only played a few games so far, after placements everyone has high MMR to accelerate climbing so players can feel good.
> [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iNEAPMjv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-02T05:15:37.558+0000) > > Viktor is premade with GP and Janna just has really good MMR with her 63% winrate. > Everything makes sense if you think about it longer than 2 seconds. > Also you still have high MMR because you only played a few games so far, after placements everyone has high MMR to accelerate climbing so players can feel good. I mean you can attempt to rationalize Riots terrible system, but the reality is that I should have been on the enemy team to balance things. As predicted, we were stomped from start to finish because 1 team had 3 silvers and the other 2. This isn't hard math, computer can do this very easily, but Riots awful algorithm is telling it not to.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Fear the Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1yhq6lv7,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-02T02:05:13.993+0000) > > Season 3 was the best Season 3 and 4 were my favorites. Season 3 was when I started and the game felt pretty hardcore. Season 4 I think was the best just because they figured out a way to make it so supports and junglers weren't gold starved. The new jg items also made it so almost any champion could jungle and stay healthy. After that I believe the game has just gotten worse every patch.
> [{quoted}](name=Luigi Tortellini,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1yhq6lv7,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-02T04:48:45.702+0000) > > Season 3 and 4 were my favorites. Season 3 was when I started and the game felt pretty hardcore. Season 4 I think was the best just because they figured out a way to make it so supports and junglers weren't gold starved. The new jg items also made it so almost any champion could jungle and stay healthy. After that I believe the game has just gotten worse every patch. Imo the game took a huge nosedive once they introduced lethality items, and again when they brought in the new runes. Not to mention most of these new champs are pure cancer and were never intended to be balanced in the first place. {{champion:517}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:555}} I mean cmon, {{champion:517}} R is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO BALANCE since it completely ignores the entire concept of POWER BUDGET. {{champion:555}} has the best anti poke in the game while also being one of the hardest to catch. He also has good engage, so basically if he fucks up 5 times he's fine, but if you fuck up once you're dead and everyone gets double kill gold. Nice. Also his ult just ignores shields because why not, true damage is enough we need TRUE TRUE damage {{champion:142}} ... I will never forget this champ 1 shotting someone every 6 seconds on her release, then Riot buffing her.
: Season 3 was the best
> [{quoted}](name=Fear the Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1yhq6lv7,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-02T02:05:13.993+0000) > > Season 3 was the best Season 3 and 4 were my favorites. Season 3 was when I started and the game felt pretty hardcore. Season 4 I think was the best just because they figured out a way to make it so supports and junglers weren't gold starved. The new jg items also made it so almost any champion could jungle and stay healthy. After that I believe the game has just gotten worse every patch.
rujitra (NA)
: What's wrong? Sorry, Riot's crystal ball broke the other day - the new one is supposed to be arriving tomorrow. **There's no such thing as a god damn crystal ball**. There's literally **no way for Riot to match you with "inters" or afk players** because there's no way for Riot to know they will int or afk. Regardless, someone's rank does not equate to their MMR or skill. Your MMR is higher than your current rank - which is why your LP gain/loss is altered so that on average, you win more LP from a win than you do from a loss. But keep trying to blame "the system" when you dealt the second least damage on your team, while tanking the most damage (without a single tank item, btw), had less gold than your support (and second to only the enemy support), only bought control wards once in the entire game, and only participated in 1/4 of the kills your team got (meaning you weren't in hardly any fights for a jungler).
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iNEAPMjv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-02T03:01:13.114+0000) > > What's wrong? Sorry, Riot's crystal ball broke the other day - the new one is supposed to be arriving tomorrow. > > **There's no such thing as a god damn crystal ball**. There's literally **no way for Riot to match you with "inters" or afk players** because there's no way for Riot to know they will int or afk. Regardless, someone's rank does not equate to their MMR or skill. > > Your MMR is higher than your current rank - which is why your LP gain/loss is altered so that on average, you win more LP from a win than you do from a loss. > > But keep trying to blame "the system" when you dealt the second least damage on your team, while tanking the most damage (without a single tank item, btw), had less gold than your support (and second to only the enemy support), only bought control wards once in the entire game, and only participated in 1/4 of the kills your team got (meaning you weren't in hardly any fights for a jungler). Ok true, Riot can't predict afks. but I can't for the life of me understand why 3 silvers would be one team. That's just crazy to me.
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: Why is SW vs NE orientation still forced?
Say the words with me! SMALL INDIE COMPANY
: {{champion:518}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:81}}
> [{quoted}](name=Cind3rkick,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=O7NAXjBs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-18T14:54:30.682+0000) > > {{champion:518}} > {{champion:44}} {{champion:81}} You forgot {{champion:157}} and {{champion:17}}
MrDeadRat (EUNE)
: Annie always has stun [GAMEPLAY]
It's almost as if they roll out these changes with 0 testing, for balance or stability.
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: So when am I gonna stop being outplayed be THE champion
Last time I laned against Trynd he all inned me at lvl 1 and didn't get a single crit lmao. That turned into a very rough game for him.
: Jax needs CD nerfs.
Ok but Yasuo and Riven first, and with no compensation
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: Rengar tells you he's coming, and then he murders you anyways. Even if you know about it there usually isn't much you can do about it, especially if he's fed. It's just a sign saying "have your shop open, you're about to go back to fountain".
> [{quoted}](name=RavenMagus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T8eXlPU5,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2019-07-14T18:48:43.399+0000) > > Rengar tells you he's coming, and then he murders you anyways. Even if you know about it there usually isn't much you can do about it, especially if he's fed. It's just a sign saying "have your shop open, you're about to go back to fountain". I mean what do you do against a fed Zed or Leblanc. At least with Rengar he send you a text a few seconds before he arrives and then your team 1 shots him once he's finished his combo.
: Rengar players be like: ThErEs ToNs Of CoUnTeRpLaY jUsT 5 mAn CoUnTeRjUnGlE
> [{quoted}](name=Beerstein,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T8eXlPU5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-14T05:22:55.138+0000) > > Rengar players be like: ThErEs ToNs Of CoUnTeRpLaY jUsT 5 mAn CoUnTeRjUnGlE To be honest I really don't understand how people how trouble with Rengar. Maybe at the height of his power in Season 4, but now he's one of the most telegraphed champions in the game and if he uses his main nuke he has no way to get out.
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Scazie (EUW)
: Every change since season 4 has just homogenised champion gameplay
5.22 was the biggest showcase of a developer drowning their own child I have ever seen. H1z1 didn't even fuck up this hard but they're in a more competitive market so it killed them. The biggest difference in increased damage. In S4 I was a Rengar main but now I don't see the point since I can 1 combo with almost any champion in the game now. Tanks are still good but not because they're tanky, Shen can be melted but he's still good only because he melts you too.
Hotarµ (NA)
: No thanks. I agree it sucks that some trolls or people who clearly aren't trying have the power to deny a vote, but people give up too easily as is and I'd rather not perpetuate that mentality.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-12T01:25:18.724+0000) > > No thanks. I agree it sucks that some trolls or people who clearly aren't trying have the power to deny a vote, but people give up too easily as is and I'd rather not perpetuate that mentality. What mentality? Trolls should have power because otherwise players would get to do what they want and get held hostage by an automated system? League isn't toxic because of people trying surrender it's toxic because it forces people in unwinnable situations and they have noone to blame but their teammates. CSGO has anti surrender too but the punishment is light, and in CSGO one bad players doesn't cause all the enemies to become stronger unless he's donating awps like he works for the red cross.
: 4 man surrenders @ 15? Nah. But I would gladly welcome a 5 man surrender @ 12.
> [{quoted}](name=Mathgodpi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-12T04:31:00.354+0000) > > 4 man surrenders @ 15? Nah. > > But I would gladly welcome a 5 man surrender @ 12. I don't understand if an entire team wants to surrender why they can't do it at any point in the game.
: Why did said 4 people Queue up in the first place, if surrendering was part of their mindset?
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-12T05:13:22.088+0000) > > Why did said 4 people Queue up in the first place, if surrendering was part of their mindset? To try to have fun? Is that not allowed? I only play normals btw so not even imaginary LP is at stake and I still run into people like you who don't value the time of their peers. 9/10 times it's the person who inted the hardest who refuses to surrender, because... go figure... they suck at the game and can't recognize a hopeless situation.
: Imo, the troll is the one who wants to surrender rather than play out a game. Which is more grievous? One person actually trying to win? Or the 4 people who will never amount to anything in game or in real life because they would rather give up and lose everything and move on to the next. It's not like this is the lottery..... where you are throwing away hundreds of tickets in the hope of a payout on ticket #3,900 because the payout is worth more than all those tries. A surrender is anywhere between 2 1/2 to four actual LOSSES that you have to make up every time you do it. (The current potential win, lost, the last game you won, lost, and the LP from the next game, which you may potentially also lose, going to recover ground. Also, weighted by your MMR, so sometimes a loss is worth more than even that) And before you argue; I can make it up by moving on to the next game; 1) You're tilted. Your next game probably isn't any better. 2) Usually, if a game is decided, it won't last much longer anyways. Might as well try winning. If you can stall out, usually, if you play it right, there is a chance to win on the other end. 3) Your next team may be even more worth surrendering to. 4) Again, your next game is mathematically negated by THIS game. By just winning it you at best ended at a stalemate. At worst, you're worse off. Oh. 5) Your team may reconsider a surrender from 15 min to 20 minutes. Things can change that fast with a cool head.
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-12T05:10:46.808+0000) > > Imo, the troll is the one who wants to surrender rather than play out a game. > > Which is more grievous? One person actually trying to win? Or the 4 people who will never amount to anything in game or in real life because they would rather give up and lose everything and move on to the next. > > It's not like this is the lottery..... where you are throwing away hundreds of tickets in the hope of a payout on ticket #3,900 because the payout is worth more than all those tries. > > A surrender is anywhere between 2 1/2 to four actual LOSSES that you have to make up every time you do it. (The current potential win, lost, the last game you won, lost, and the LP from the next game, which you may potentially also lose, going to recover ground. Also, weighted by your MMR, so sometimes a loss is worth more than even that) > > And before you argue; I can make it up by moving on to the next game; > > 1) You're tilted. Your next game probably isn't any better. > 2) Usually, if a game is decided, it won't last much longer anyways. Might as well try winning. If you can stall out, usually, if you play it right, there is a chance to win on the other end. > 3) Your next team may be even more worth surrendering to. > 4) Again, your next game is mathematically negated by THIS game. By just winning it you at best ended at a stalemate. At worst, you're worse off. > > Oh. > > 5) Your team may reconsider a surrender from 15 min to 20 minutes. Things can change that fast with a cool head. What are you talking about. I'm full time professional, which is exactly why I don't want to waste my free time on pointless games. Only people who don't value their time don't ff games that aren't fun. In any other video game if you don't have fun you just leave at any time. Also how 1 person forcing 4 other people to do something they don't want to do make them in the right? Your opinion doesn't fucking matter because it is the opposite of the 4 others who are holding people hostage. I hate to say it but having the mental willpower to be socially oblivious and mental fortitude to waste time in lost games will not help you anywhere in life. It's a fucking video game, nothing you do here matters unless you skip out on your real life. You'll learn this is soon as you move out of mommies house.
Hotarµ (NA)
: > If you're the 1 person who votes no when people just want to move on im sure most people don't want to play with you either. Why would you force 4 people to play a game they don't want to? I don't understand how you can argue that's being anything but a selfish dick. It's a game, nothing is lost from losing except for your precious time. Except if you actually _read_ what I said, I said people give up _too easily_. Obviously **yes**, if we're 2 inhibitors, 3 dragons, and 10+ kills down, I will gladly FF. I don't want to waste other people's time and I don't want my time wasted either. But you know what I won't do? Forfeit a game where the score is 6 to 11, we have a dragon, and our bot lane is looking promising. Play games out past 15/20 minutes and you'll be surprised at what can happen when you stop giving up immediately.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-12T01:32:15.455+0000) > > Except if you actually _read_ what I said, I said people give up _too easily_. > > Obviously **yes**, if we're 2 inhibitors, 3 dragons, and 10+ kills down, I will gladly FF. I don't want to waste other people's time and I don't want my time wasted either. > > But you know what I won't do? Forfeit a game where the score is 6 to 11, we have a dragon, and our bot lane is looking promising. Play games out past 15/20 minutes and you'll be surprised at what can happen when you stop giving up immediately. I did read what you said, you don't seem to understand that it doesn't matter if YOU think people give up too easily. You're holding 4 people hostage against their will in a video game, end of story. I don't understand how you could possibly have such an ego that you think what you want is more important than what 4 other people want. Who cares if there is a chance to win. This isn't a real war, the outcome of the game doesn't matter. This is like forcing 4 people to go to 5 guys when they want to go to McDonalds. 5 guys may be the better choice but you're still being annoying af. I don't get how the never surrender people don't understand this.
Hotarµ (NA)
: No thanks. I agree it sucks that some trolls or people who clearly aren't trying have the power to deny a vote, but people give up too easily as is and I'd rather not perpetuate that mentality.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-12T01:25:18.724+0000) > > No thanks. I agree it sucks that some trolls or people who clearly aren't trying have the power to deny a vote, but people give up too easily as is and I'd rather not perpetuate that mentality. If you're the 1 person who votes no when people just want to move on im sure most people don't want to play with you either. Why would you force 4 people to play a game they don't want to? I don't understand how you can argue that's being anything but a selfish dick. It's a game, nothing is lost from losing except for your precious time.
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SEKAI (OCE)
: Not that I'm raising my arms in support of the new Aatrox but old Aatrox was a problem precisely because he was an AD Vlad (and that's figurative, given Aatrox wasn't at least constrained by CD like Vlad sort of is given his draining is AA based and he also doesn't have a traditional mana cost as gating too) with a Zilean ulti as passive. He had a lot going for him, in general he was either too strong he runs you down or he's so useless he more or less had to be carried. It was clear old Aatrox needed a rework. Though I am not so sure this rework as it is is the one he needed. They could've just moved his passive into ulti and rework his W and all would probably be well. But I guess that's not what happened.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wP6xAMEg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-10T04:36:41.050+0000) > > Not that I'm raising my arms in support of the new Aatrox but old Aatrox was a problem precisely because he was an AD Vlad (and that's figurative, given Aatrox wasn't at least constrained by CD like Vlad sort of is given his draining is AA based and he also doesn't have a traditional mana cost as gating too) with a Zilean ulti as passive. He had a lot going for him, in general he was either too strong he runs you down or he's so useless he more or less had to be carried. > > It was clear old Aatrox needed a rework. Though I am not so sure this rework as it is is the one he needed. > > They could've just moved his passive into ulti and rework his W and all would probably be well. But I guess that's not what happened. His healing was tied to his attack speed which was tied to stacking his passive. You could completely zone him off the wave if he didn't have passive stacks. Even when he was at his strongest just before his rework, very few people were complaining about him. I could think of at least a third of the roster needing to be reworked before Aatrox. {{champion:134}} R bot {{champion:84}} Cancer bot {{champion:13}} lol {{champion:145}} ... {{champion:8}} actual vlad over AD vlad any day {{champion:103}} A ranged safe assassin with waveclear and mobility and sustain and CC. Waifu bait for weeb trash that has never been below a 50% winrate. Not even a 49.9
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: I can't remember the last time I had fun laning top lol
My biggest problem is the teleport nerfs. The fact that I'm better off playing ignite teemo than an actual top laner with TP says a lot about where this game has gone.
PekiCodex (EUW)
: Facts about TFT that are 100% fact
Dota Underlords is now and forever will be, a better game. What about League of Legends makes you think Riot knows how to balance on their own 2 feet?
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: The fact that threads like this unironically get upvoted shows the dismal quality of the boards.
Haha he's tilted. My experience with top lane is that you gotta be careful trying something new because you might be against someone with 8000 Jax games.
: Renekton's shield-breaking W is basically a giant "fuck you"
They won't be able to read this until they finish stroking themselves for how different and off the wall they are for coming up with this change. WOW Riot, what a curveball we never saw this coming :), what meta SHATTERING changes Seriously though, at this point expecting Riot to not make the exact worst changes possible is like expecting a dog to guard your steak.
FâgLord (EUW)
: Riot, What the f*ck
Why would you expect Riot to do literally anything but the worst possible balance changes for Top or Jungle? That's like expecting a dog to guard your steak.
: New swain is trash. Old swain was legendary. Riot fucks everything up.
> [{quoted}](name=Gargle Manjuice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wtWEuRah,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-01T14:15:37.274+0000) > > New swain is trash. Old swain was legendary. Riot fucks everything up. Underrated comment, WW is THE ONLY good rework.
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: Who's Your Current Perma-Ban (If You Have One)?
I'm a jungle/top main. Used to be {{champion:145}} since she's just incredibly overturned and overloaded waifu bait. Now it's {{champion:82}} and I will continue to do so until either he is reworked again or hits 40% winrate. There is nothing balanced about his ult, if you aren't a champion who can disengage or 1v1 him, it's basically a 100 to 0 point and click execute. Another sign that this game is no longer run by the same people who used to make it great.
IainG10 (EUW)
: Thresh came before Yas, and at least if you put a Thresh down he stays there. Yas builds 2 items and becomes God
I really miss when Thresh is all people complained about. Now Thresh in 2019 heals to full if you don't 1 shot him, has stealth and a resetting aoe true damage execute. Riot has ran out of ideas and it's clear to me that they're letting interns they hired off deviant art design new champions
: Quitting ranked this season, matchmaking isn't working in my favour and feels rigged.
It's always been like this. I got plat in S4 and at first I lost promos twice because of literal inters and afks. Then I got promos a third time, fed my ass off but won anyway and got plat. It really is a team game, you can only influence your chance if winning by 20% as 1 player out of 5. There will always be luck involved but just like poker or the stock market your skill and knowledge can tilt chance in your favor.
: You all know what they say right? "You're not FORCE to buy it" LMAO
What joke? It's a free game, you unlock champs faster than ever before AND you no longer need to buy runes or rune pages, AND we now have preferred roles so you don't even need to own many champions. LoL used to be kinda p2w with old runes but the game was great so people paid.
: Game is now more than ever about playing broken champs to win.
This game has only gone downhill since the {{champion:157}} release.
: I am not happy because i never cared about the situation but thanks for asking
> [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9TrQjVsX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-21T08:01:14.899+0000) > > I am not happy because i never cared about the situation > but thanks for asking Oh wow so mature you're such a big boy who's above the dealings of us mortals. If you didn't care you wouldn't have came to this thread or these boards in general.
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