jovack (NA)
: Why is SW vs NE orientation still forced?
Say the words with me! SMALL INDIE COMPANY
: {{champion:518}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:81}}
> [{quoted}](name=Cind3rkick,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=O7NAXjBs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-18T14:54:30.682+0000) > > {{champion:518}} > {{champion:44}} {{champion:81}} You forgot {{champion:157}} and {{champion:17}}
MrDeadRat (EUNE)
: Annie always has stun [GAMEPLAY]
It's almost as if they roll out these changes with 0 testing, for balance or stability.
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: So when am I gonna stop being outplayed be THE champion
Last time I laned against Trynd he all inned me at lvl 1 and didn't get a single crit lmao. That turned into a very rough game for him.
: Jax needs CD nerfs.
Ok but Yasuo and Riven first, and with no compensation
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: Rengar tells you he's coming, and then he murders you anyways. Even if you know about it there usually isn't much you can do about it, especially if he's fed. It's just a sign saying "have your shop open, you're about to go back to fountain".
> [{quoted}](name=RavenMagus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T8eXlPU5,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2019-07-14T18:48:43.399+0000) > > Rengar tells you he's coming, and then he murders you anyways. Even if you know about it there usually isn't much you can do about it, especially if he's fed. It's just a sign saying "have your shop open, you're about to go back to fountain". I mean what do you do against a fed Zed or Leblanc. At least with Rengar he send you a text a few seconds before he arrives and then your team 1 shots him once he's finished his combo.
: Rengar players be like: ThErEs ToNs Of CoUnTeRpLaY jUsT 5 mAn CoUnTeRjUnGlE
> [{quoted}](name=Beerstein,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T8eXlPU5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-14T05:22:55.138+0000) > > Rengar players be like: ThErEs ToNs Of CoUnTeRpLaY jUsT 5 mAn CoUnTeRjUnGlE To be honest I really don't understand how people how trouble with Rengar. Maybe at the height of his power in Season 4, but now he's one of the most telegraphed champions in the game and if he uses his main nuke he has no way to get out.
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Scazie (EUW)
: Every change since season 4 has just homogenised champion gameplay
5.22 was the biggest showcase of a developer drowning their own child I have ever seen. H1z1 didn't even fuck up this hard but they're in a more competitive market so it killed them. The biggest difference in increased damage. In S4 I was a Rengar main but now I don't see the point since I can 1 combo with almost any champion in the game now. Tanks are still good but not because they're tanky, Shen can be melted but he's still good only because he melts you too.
Hotarµ (NA)
: No thanks. I agree it sucks that some trolls or people who clearly aren't trying have the power to deny a vote, but people give up too easily as is and I'd rather not perpetuate that mentality.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-12T01:25:18.724+0000) > > No thanks. I agree it sucks that some trolls or people who clearly aren't trying have the power to deny a vote, but people give up too easily as is and I'd rather not perpetuate that mentality. What mentality? Trolls should have power because otherwise players would get to do what they want and get held hostage by an automated system? League isn't toxic because of people trying surrender it's toxic because it forces people in unwinnable situations and they have noone to blame but their teammates. CSGO has anti surrender too but the punishment is light, and in CSGO one bad players doesn't cause all the enemies to become stronger unless he's donating awps like he works for the red cross.
: 4 man surrenders @ 15? Nah. But I would gladly welcome a 5 man surrender @ 12.
> [{quoted}](name=Mathgodpi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-12T04:31:00.354+0000) > > 4 man surrenders @ 15? Nah. > > But I would gladly welcome a 5 man surrender @ 12. I don't understand if an entire team wants to surrender why they can't do it at any point in the game.
: Why did said 4 people Queue up in the first place, if surrendering was part of their mindset?
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-12T05:13:22.088+0000) > > Why did said 4 people Queue up in the first place, if surrendering was part of their mindset? To try to have fun? Is that not allowed? I only play normals btw so not even imaginary LP is at stake and I still run into people like you who don't value the time of their peers. 9/10 times it's the person who inted the hardest who refuses to surrender, because... go figure... they suck at the game and can't recognize a hopeless situation.
: Imo, the troll is the one who wants to surrender rather than play out a game. Which is more grievous? One person actually trying to win? Or the 4 people who will never amount to anything in game or in real life because they would rather give up and lose everything and move on to the next. It's not like this is the lottery..... where you are throwing away hundreds of tickets in the hope of a payout on ticket #3,900 because the payout is worth more than all those tries. A surrender is anywhere between 2 1/2 to four actual LOSSES that you have to make up every time you do it. (The current potential win, lost, the last game you won, lost, and the LP from the next game, which you may potentially also lose, going to recover ground. Also, weighted by your MMR, so sometimes a loss is worth more than even that) And before you argue; I can make it up by moving on to the next game; 1) You're tilted. Your next game probably isn't any better. 2) Usually, if a game is decided, it won't last much longer anyways. Might as well try winning. If you can stall out, usually, if you play it right, there is a chance to win on the other end. 3) Your next team may be even more worth surrendering to. 4) Again, your next game is mathematically negated by THIS game. By just winning it you at best ended at a stalemate. At worst, you're worse off. Oh. 5) Your team may reconsider a surrender from 15 min to 20 minutes. Things can change that fast with a cool head.
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-12T05:10:46.808+0000) > > Imo, the troll is the one who wants to surrender rather than play out a game. > > Which is more grievous? One person actually trying to win? Or the 4 people who will never amount to anything in game or in real life because they would rather give up and lose everything and move on to the next. > > It's not like this is the lottery..... where you are throwing away hundreds of tickets in the hope of a payout on ticket #3,900 because the payout is worth more than all those tries. > > A surrender is anywhere between 2 1/2 to four actual LOSSES that you have to make up every time you do it. (The current potential win, lost, the last game you won, lost, and the LP from the next game, which you may potentially also lose, going to recover ground. Also, weighted by your MMR, so sometimes a loss is worth more than even that) > > And before you argue; I can make it up by moving on to the next game; > > 1) You're tilted. Your next game probably isn't any better. > 2) Usually, if a game is decided, it won't last much longer anyways. Might as well try winning. If you can stall out, usually, if you play it right, there is a chance to win on the other end. > 3) Your next team may be even more worth surrendering to. > 4) Again, your next game is mathematically negated by THIS game. By just winning it you at best ended at a stalemate. At worst, you're worse off. > > Oh. > > 5) Your team may reconsider a surrender from 15 min to 20 minutes. Things can change that fast with a cool head. What are you talking about. I'm full time professional, which is exactly why I don't want to waste my free time on pointless games. Only people who don't value their time don't ff games that aren't fun. In any other video game if you don't have fun you just leave at any time. Also how 1 person forcing 4 other people to do something they don't want to do make them in the right? Your opinion doesn't fucking matter because it is the opposite of the 4 others who are holding people hostage. I hate to say it but having the mental willpower to be socially oblivious and mental fortitude to waste time in lost games will not help you anywhere in life. It's a fucking video game, nothing you do here matters unless you skip out on your real life. You'll learn this is soon as you move out of mommies house.
Hotarµ (NA)
: > If you're the 1 person who votes no when people just want to move on im sure most people don't want to play with you either. Why would you force 4 people to play a game they don't want to? I don't understand how you can argue that's being anything but a selfish dick. It's a game, nothing is lost from losing except for your precious time. Except if you actually _read_ what I said, I said people give up _too easily_. Obviously **yes**, if we're 2 inhibitors, 3 dragons, and 10+ kills down, I will gladly FF. I don't want to waste other people's time and I don't want my time wasted either. But you know what I won't do? Forfeit a game where the score is 6 to 11, we have a dragon, and our bot lane is looking promising. Play games out past 15/20 minutes and you'll be surprised at what can happen when you stop giving up immediately.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-12T01:32:15.455+0000) > > Except if you actually _read_ what I said, I said people give up _too easily_. > > Obviously **yes**, if we're 2 inhibitors, 3 dragons, and 10+ kills down, I will gladly FF. I don't want to waste other people's time and I don't want my time wasted either. > > But you know what I won't do? Forfeit a game where the score is 6 to 11, we have a dragon, and our bot lane is looking promising. Play games out past 15/20 minutes and you'll be surprised at what can happen when you stop giving up immediately. I did read what you said, you don't seem to understand that it doesn't matter if YOU think people give up too easily. You're holding 4 people hostage against their will in a video game, end of story. I don't understand how you could possibly have such an ego that you think what you want is more important than what 4 other people want. Who cares if there is a chance to win. This isn't a real war, the outcome of the game doesn't matter. This is like forcing 4 people to go to 5 guys when they want to go to McDonalds. 5 guys may be the better choice but you're still being annoying af. I don't get how the never surrender people don't understand this.
Hotarµ (NA)
: No thanks. I agree it sucks that some trolls or people who clearly aren't trying have the power to deny a vote, but people give up too easily as is and I'd rather not perpetuate that mentality.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11iTHuEl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-12T01:25:18.724+0000) > > No thanks. I agree it sucks that some trolls or people who clearly aren't trying have the power to deny a vote, but people give up too easily as is and I'd rather not perpetuate that mentality. If you're the 1 person who votes no when people just want to move on im sure most people don't want to play with you either. Why would you force 4 people to play a game they don't want to? I don't understand how you can argue that's being anything but a selfish dick. It's a game, nothing is lost from losing except for your precious time.
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SEKAI (OCE)
: Not that I'm raising my arms in support of the new Aatrox but old Aatrox was a problem precisely because he was an AD Vlad (and that's figurative, given Aatrox wasn't at least constrained by CD like Vlad sort of is given his draining is AA based and he also doesn't have a traditional mana cost as gating too) with a Zilean ulti as passive. He had a lot going for him, in general he was either too strong he runs you down or he's so useless he more or less had to be carried. It was clear old Aatrox needed a rework. Though I am not so sure this rework as it is is the one he needed. They could've just moved his passive into ulti and rework his W and all would probably be well. But I guess that's not what happened.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wP6xAMEg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-10T04:36:41.050+0000) > > Not that I'm raising my arms in support of the new Aatrox but old Aatrox was a problem precisely because he was an AD Vlad (and that's figurative, given Aatrox wasn't at least constrained by CD like Vlad sort of is given his draining is AA based and he also doesn't have a traditional mana cost as gating too) with a Zilean ulti as passive. He had a lot going for him, in general he was either too strong he runs you down or he's so useless he more or less had to be carried. > > It was clear old Aatrox needed a rework. Though I am not so sure this rework as it is is the one he needed. > > They could've just moved his passive into ulti and rework his W and all would probably be well. But I guess that's not what happened. His healing was tied to his attack speed which was tied to stacking his passive. You could completely zone him off the wave if he didn't have passive stacks. Even when he was at his strongest just before his rework, very few people were complaining about him. I could think of at least a third of the roster needing to be reworked before Aatrox. {{champion:134}} R bot {{champion:84}} Cancer bot {{champion:13}} lol {{champion:145}} ... {{champion:8}} actual vlad over AD vlad any day {{champion:103}} A ranged safe assassin with waveclear and mobility and sustain and CC. Waifu bait for weeb trash that has never been below a 50% winrate. Not even a 49.9
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: I can't remember the last time I had fun laning top lol
My biggest problem is the teleport nerfs. The fact that I'm better off playing ignite teemo than an actual top laner with TP says a lot about where this game has gone.
PekiCodex (EUW)
: Facts about TFT that are 100% fact
Dota Underlords is now and forever will be, a better game. What about League of Legends makes you think Riot knows how to balance on their own 2 feet?
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: The fact that threads like this unironically get upvoted shows the dismal quality of the boards.
Haha he's tilted. My experience with top lane is that you gotta be careful trying something new because you might be against someone with 8000 Jax games.
: Renekton's shield-breaking W is basically a giant "fuck you"
They won't be able to read this until they finish stroking themselves for how different and off the wall they are for coming up with this change. WOW Riot, what a curveball we never saw this coming :), what meta SHATTERING changes Seriously though, at this point expecting Riot to not make the exact worst changes possible is like expecting a dog to guard your steak.
DeltaDan (EUW)
: Riot, What the f*ck
Why would you expect Riot to do literally anything but the worst possible balance changes for Top or Jungle? That's like expecting a dog to guard your steak.
: New swain is trash. Old swain was legendary. Riot fucks everything up.
> [{quoted}](name=Gargle Manjuice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wtWEuRah,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-01T14:15:37.274+0000) > > New swain is trash. Old swain was legendary. Riot fucks everything up. Underrated comment, WW is THE ONLY good rework.
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: Who's Your Current Perma-Ban (If You Have One)?
I'm a jungle/top main. Used to be {{champion:145}} since she's just incredibly overturned and overloaded waifu bait. Now it's {{champion:82}} and I will continue to do so until either he is reworked again or hits 40% winrate. There is nothing balanced about his ult, if you aren't a champion who can disengage or 1v1 him, it's basically a 100 to 0 point and click execute. Another sign that this game is no longer run by the same people who used to make it great.
IainG10 (EUW)
: Thresh came before Yas, and at least if you put a Thresh down he stays there. Yas builds 2 items and becomes God
I really miss when Thresh is all people complained about. Now Thresh in 2019 heals to full if you don't 1 shot him, has stealth and a resetting aoe true damage execute. Riot has ran out of ideas and it's clear to me that they're letting interns they hired off deviant art design new champions
: Quitting ranked this season, matchmaking isn't working in my favour and feels rigged.
It's always been like this. I got plat in S4 and at first I lost promos twice because of literal inters and afks. Then I got promos a third time, fed my ass off but won anyway and got plat. It really is a team game, you can only influence your chance if winning by 20% as 1 player out of 5. There will always be luck involved but just like poker or the stock market your skill and knowledge can tilt chance in your favor.
: You all know what they say right? "You're not FORCE to buy it" LMAO
What joke? It's a free game, you unlock champs faster than ever before AND you no longer need to buy runes or rune pages, AND we now have preferred roles so you don't even need to own many champions. LoL used to be kinda p2w with old runes but the game was great so people paid.
: Game is now more than ever about playing broken champs to win.
This game has only gone downhill since the {{champion:157}} release.
: I am not happy because i never cared about the situation but thanks for asking
> [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9TrQjVsX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-21T08:01:14.899+0000) > > I am not happy because i never cared about the situation > but thanks for asking Oh wow so mature you're such a big boy who's above the dealings of us mortals. If you didn't care you wouldn't have came to this thread or these boards in general.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Luigi Tortellini,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Yy2q5uxm,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2019-06-20T13:52:28.857+0000) > > Doesn't matter how much money he makes, you can't buy your way out of being an overgrown 3 year old. Maturity. Money. Maturity. Money. Sorry babe, but money pays the bills and problems away and allows me to unlock the world. You can find solice with the other crabs in the bucket here though while they green thumb your post, while you remain blissfully unaware that you actually don’t want these folks to be agreeing with you because we’re all losers here.
> [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Yy2q5uxm,comment-id=0000000100010001,timestamp=2019-06-20T14:31:45.930+0000) > > Maturity. Money. Maturity. Money. > > Sorry babe, but money pays the bills and problems away and allows me to unlock the world. > > You can find solice with the other crabs in the bucket here though while they green thumb your post, while you remain blissfully unaware that you actually don’t want these folks to be agreeing with you because we’re all losers here. I signed onto a 6 figure salary last year, not what Nightblue makes but I can confirm that isn't changed my personality or maturity in anyway whatsoever. The only time I feel mature is when I'm doing my job and acting professional for the client, which is something Nightblue has never and never will experience. He will continue to be a little twerp that entertains 10 year olds by acting like one himself for a living. FFS has job is to play video games but can't find the time to go to the gym once in a while.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Spicy ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Yy2q5uxm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-20T09:34:52.775+0000) > > Nightblue3 can suck on these nuts. Little fuck is gonna be nobody as soon as this shitty game dies. Richer than you, lmao.
> [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Yy2q5uxm,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-20T13:38:58.153+0000) > > Richer than you, lmao. Doesn't matter how much money he makes, you can't buy your way out of being an overgrown 3 year old.
: got my friend permabannede - he blocked me on every media - did I do the right thing?
If you had any respect for your friend at all you would have just said "dude you better cut that shit out or I'm not playing with you.
: got my friend permabannede - he blocked me on every media - did I do the right thing?
You trade friendship for browny points with Riot and this underwater basket weaving forum? You're in college still so you got some learning to do but soon enough you'll realize that literally anything is more important than this game. Why are you looking for sympathy on these boards? You already know you fucked up. I'm sure your friend will get over it though after a few weeks.
Pika Fox (NA)
: None of your points are accurate or show you have any comprehension of how the industry works.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jMG8BLAE,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-19T05:03:01.279+0000) > > None of your points are accurate or show you have any comprehension of how the industry works. What are you talking about. I work as a consultant for a software company and our core product is broken as fuck. So what do we do? We spend all of our time making extensions and supplements to the product and basically anything that will get the client to buy more licenses. This is exactly how the industry works. I won't disclose much about what I do or where I work, but our company is at the very top of our market, you basically have no other choices if you want what we sell. Then I go onsite and watch the product fail right before my eyes and the customer asks me wtf is going on. I calmly explain to them that they're using it wrong and show them workarounds and call it "our best practices". Why is our product so broken? Well deadlines always suck but the truth is that original crew all left and have been replaced by snobby engineers who aren't nearly as good at their job as they think they are, and product designers who don't know how clients actually use the product and are just trying to make their r%%%%%ed visions come true because they think they're so special. Now that I think about it if we were a gaming company we would be exactly like Riot. Once again you literally just take true statements and say their wrong as long as it defends Riot. They're not paying you, you don't have to defend them, it's gonna be okay.
: Nightblue gets a player Falsely banned.
The sheds on light on how they consistently make the exact wrong decision when designing and balancing their own fucking game.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Luigi Tortellini,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b7yRX9ks,comment-id=0001000000020000,timestamp=2019-06-14T18:20:56.544+0000) > > Why do you speak? You literally just say blatantly wrong things because I guess being different is edgy even if youre being different from common sense. Yasuo is the most popular champion because he breaks so many rules that were put in place for a reason. Endlessly spamming abitlities might feel good for the Yasuo player, but for literally any other champion it feels pretty shite to use your last bit of Mana on an ability that gets windwalled. > > Is Zoe another one of his master pieces? Because im actually intelligent and correct.... Unlike the people here who couldnt figure out how to make a well designed champion if they were literally told what to write. Yasuo isnt popular because "he breaks all the rules". Hes popular because his kit is fun to play, his character design looks cool, and his general lone wolf wanderer theme and playstyle is attractive. Players DO NOT play champions because theyre busted outside of extremely high elo/comp. Players play what they find to be fun and enjoyable. If you cannot comprehend this simple fact, you have nothing to add of value. I can play lux into yas just fine. Windwall only sucks if you dont play around it, LIKE LITERALLY EVERY ABILITY IN THE GAME.
Sorry I stopped reading after the first sentence. I have never met a smart person in my life who calls themself intelligent.
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