rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lyandere,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0n0XdKBp,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-31T06:34:59.637+0000) > Because It's the most stupid thing EVER to lose honor and get it locked when you rage (or sometimes not even that, a simple "shit" can get you fucked up) in ONE single game. No, a simple "shit" does not get you a penalty. In fact, it takes an **exceedingly large** amount of toxicity to get punished from one game on a clean account. > I'm pretty sure alot of people have gone through the same as I did. Over 80% of players never get a single chat restriction. > I'm nice for months, a year even, trying my best to ignore the trolls and toxic players (_which there is ALOT especially in ranked queue_), and then one day that it's just maybe not a good day, you say something, either you rage or something else that is simple and get chat restriction and you lose TWO honor levels for that... If you are misbehaving so much to the point you are being punished, you are not an honorable player. > It fucking took me a whole year to get my honor to level 3, and I'm honored at least once every game I play. The average is about 2-3 months per honor level. If yours is slower than this, it means you are misbehaving and being validly reported in games even if they do not result in a punishment. >Then I queue up ranked after losing 5 games in a row already, someone in champ select, selects Teemo top... I said "_could you not teemo top? Teemo sucks, in teamfights hes useless_" and I was talking about the champion itself, not the player... guess what? He got teemo, he was useless, and we lost the game. And I got chat restriction for 10 games for that alone and lost 2 honor levels which is now locked god knows for how long. After being nice **FOR A WHOLE YEAR!** So... you flamed someone and tried to boss them around as to what to play. This is punishable, yes. If you don't want punished, don't violate the rules. > So maybe in 365 days a year, I kinda lose control after all the trolls and toxic players and flame a bit for idk... 5-10 games. And RIOT wanna tell me it's fair to get honor level down and locked for that!? When I bet all those players trolling and being toxic probably did not get any of that shit! Again, over 80% of players do not get a single chat restriction, ever. You are the problem. > Another thing that is unfair in this, is that if you say "_Oh shit, I made a mistake_" and someone report you, you will get fucked too. So you cant even say anything at all basically. You need to go to support, start a ticket and justify that you were joking around with friends, or you did not intend to offend anyone, and even so, they most likely wont remove that penalty. Nope, that's not true. The system can differentiate between "self-flaming" and flaming others. > I'm sick of this stupid system, I want it to change. You wanna ban my chat for 10 games or whatever? Fine! But leave my FUCKING honor alone. Please explain why you deserve to have honor when you do not display honorable behavior. >It's frustrating to deal with those kind of people every game, every day. And getting such a harsh punishment for when I lose control here and there it's just the most stupid thing ever. And sometimes the "_losing control_" I mean is just telling someone to stfu when they are qq'ing or flaming others, which is enough to get your chat banned and honor down/locked. It takes a **lot** of toxicity to get punished. You don't get punished for one or even a few "stfu"s. > Not to mention that this **ALWAYS** happens by the end of the year, it feels like people do this on purpose to fuck you over so you dont get rewards. Unless RIOT is trolling and being like "_ok, we are close to rewards, time to start checking who I need to ban!_"... "People" being yourself? You are becoming more toxic because you want to climb more but are not climbing. You are the one fucking yourself over. > I worked as hard as anyone else to get those ranked rewards. And I also worked hard to not fall for the trolls/toxic players for a goddamn year to just get my honor down to level 1 like that... Which will take me another year or more to get back to 3+. If you behave in your games, it is virtually guaranteed you will return to honor two by the end of the season, and likely have a month or two to spare. > **PS2:** I get it, the system is to make the community less toxic blabla. Guess what!? **IT DOES NOT WORK! **All I want is a different system, or a better system, one that actually works against trolls and toxic players. If you keep misbehaving in games, you will get a longer chat restriction, a temporary suspension, and then a permanent ban. > **PS3:** I'm ok with being punished for flaming or whatever, even tho I try my best to not lose it during games, but I'm human, we all are, and we all have limits. And just mute all every game it's horrible, coz this is a game where communication is key, and sometimes just pings arent enough. My point is, I dont wanna get fucked over so hard over one mistake that happens rarely. A small punishment is fine, chat restriction its ok, but going with the honor system is just stupid and I feel like I worked hard all year for nothing. Since I can't get keys, chests, or even ranked rewards later on. > > I guess this is what I wanted to say. Please RIOT, make changes for this system... It's hard enough to deal with the trolls, don't make this even worse for people that just wanna play the game and try to have fun or climb in ranked. {{sticker:sg-soraka}} The system is quite lenient as it is. You do not get punished for "one bad game".
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0n0XdKBp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-31T07:00:04.014+0000) > > Because It's the most stupid thing EVER to lose honor and get it locked when you rage (or sometimes not even that, a simple "shit" can get you fucked up) in ONE single game. > > No, a simple "shit" does not get you a penalty. In fact, it takes an **exceedingly large** amount of toxicity to get punished from one game on a clean account. > > Over 80% of players never get a single chat restriction. > > If you are misbehaving so much to the point you are being punished, you are not an honorable player. > > The average is about 2-3 months per honor level. If yours is slower than this, it means you are misbehaving and being validly reported in games even if they do not result in a punishment. > > So... you flamed someone and tried to boss them around as to what to play. This is punishable, yes. If you don't want punished, don't violate the rules. > > Again, over 80% of players do not get a single chat restriction, ever. You are the problem. > > Nope, that's not true. The system can differentiate between "self-flaming" and flaming others. > > Please explain why you deserve to have honor when you do not display honorable behavior. > > It takes a **lot** of toxicity to get punished. You don't get punished for one or even a few "stfu"s. > > "People" being yourself? You are becoming more toxic because you want to climb more but are not climbing. You are the one fucking yourself over. > > If you behave in your games, it is virtually guaranteed you will return to honor two by the end of the season, and likely have a month or two to spare. > > If you keep misbehaving in games, you will get a longer chat restriction, a temporary suspension, and then a permanent ban. > > The system is quite lenient as it is. You do not get punished for "one bad game". Like I said... people like you are better being quiet. Coz even tho u responded to every single thing, its like you didnt read a single word I said. And yes, its possible to get banned for a simple "shit", since ITS PROGRAMMED to do so if you get reported. If you dont wanna help, dont say anything :)
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: Teamfight Tactics Beta Pass Update
Icon reward is kinda meh... nobody will use them lol if even they looked good... Also, we should be able to get 3 star for the starter little legend at least, since we can all agree that 490 RP per box is NOT worth it at all. I know people that bought the 4900 pack and regret doing so, coz buying skins is way better and actually worth than that. So if possible, give us some rng boxes with little legends, or at least the 3 star version of the first one. ALSO, PLEASE MAKE ITEMS REMOVABLE FROM CHAMPIONS IN TFT (and remove item auto combine in champions too pls)! Thats all I want...
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: I have no sympathy for anyone that is complaining at this point in the season. Where were all of you when riot announced this months ago? Oh right, you guys didn't give a shit until it actually started affecting you. All of my posts complaining about this honor level rewards requirement were down-voted to hell, but now people suddenly agree? I couldn't care less at this point. Everyone had ample time to complain about the system and try to get it changed, but no cared, so now everyone can just deal with it. I'll just sit back and enjoy the rewards that I earned from months spent climbing from honor level 0 - 3 just so that I could also have access to merit-based rewards, because for some reason riot decided that awards based on merit and skill should be connected with behavior. It's honestly a ridiculous system.
> [{quoted}](name=Altaïr,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=p1LaAKuH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-12T11:09:40.200+0000) > > I have no sympathy for anyone that is complaining at this point in the season. Where were all of you when riot announced this months ago? Oh right, you guys didn't give a shit until it actually started affecting you. All of my posts complaining about this honor level rewards requirement were down-voted to hell, but now people suddenly agree? I couldn't care less at this point. Everyone had ample time to complain about the system and try to get it changed, but no cared, so now everyone can just deal with it. I'll just sit back and enjoy the rewards that I earned from months spent climbing from honor level 0 - 3 just so that I could also have access to merit-based rewards, because for some reason riot decided that awards based on merit and skill should be connected with behavior. It's honestly a ridiculous system. Honestly, from the beginning I said... THE VERY FIRST LINE "When these changes first came out, I thought it was something good and positive, but it ended up being REALLY BAD." Was it stupid? Of course it was, but we gave it a chance to see how it was gonna be. And now everyone is getting affected by it. It's not too late to change this.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: >You are level 60, so I suppose you don't play the game as often as we do. Probably don't even play ranked. if you must know, i have multiple accounts to manage (i.e. to get gold on) as well as irl issues to deal with. i don't have the time required to gain brownie points on a single account > If you did, you would understand how painful it is to get a troll/toxic/afk player every single game. i've been playing since 2009. trust me. i understand what the community is like the difference is that i haven't forgotten that** it's just a game** {{sticker:katarina-love}} >You don't know every human being, you can't judge them. then why are you judging me based on my level? hypocrite much? >Plus everyone makes mistakes. We are humans afterall :) yes. and everyone pays for their mistakes welcome to "how life works"! {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
You really need better arguments. I was judging you as a player, not as a person, like u are doing right now. I wont waste time with you anymore.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: if two thieves get caught stealing and are sentenced for 6 months in jail, whose fault is it that the one who got caught in October doesn't get to be out on Christmas, as opposed to the one who got caught in March? is it the system's fault or his?
You again? lol You are level 60, so I suppose you don't play the game as often as we do. Probably don't even play ranked. If you did, you would understand how painful it is to get a troll/toxic/afk player every single game. You don't know every human being, you can't judge them. Plus everyone makes mistakes. We are humans afterall :)
Voldymort (EUNE)
: >and everyone have a limit right!? if you have a rough time controlling you ego over what happens in an online game, that's your problem, not riot's > If you can, congratulations to you! Want a prize!? i'm getting my prize in a few days, depending on when my turn is up on that {{champion:61}} skin {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
So why would they even bother making a report system for the toxic players then? Of course its their problem.
deathgod5 (EUW)
: I find it weird that end season punishments are more severe because of the loot given out
I just made a post because of this, coz I was the 2nd player... so yes, I agree with you 100%! https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/p1LaAKuH-honor-system-affecting-season-reward thats my post if curious. PS: gonna use your post to edit mine if you dont mind, to complement it :)
Voldymort (EUNE)
: >3rd: It's unfair to ONLY get season rewards having honor level 2, because we work our ass off, ranking up, tolerating all kinds of toxic/troll players, to get nothing in the end. Because you need to carry HARD to recieve honors from people, and even so, most of the time you don't even get those! Depending on people's honor is RIDICULOUS to get season reward, when YOU worked hard for it, most of the time by yourself. you realise everyone starts at honor 2, right? literally all you have to do to ensure getting season rewards is not be a dick to anyone. which is obscenely easy to do
You do realize the community is super toxic and everyone have a limit right!? Playing ranked is frustrating, not everyone have the patience to suck up every single troll/toxic player in every single game. If you can, congratulations to you! Want a prize!?
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