: I think we can all agree it took some real grinding to get the event tied prestige skins. Personally, I dont see a problem with player's being able to earn them after the fact with prestige points. Prestige points take as long, if not longer to grind up to 100 points. I see it as all the same method for earning the skin, just a different path. If they added a feature to trade prestige points to gemstones (and vice versa), that would be ok too; as they are both somewhat rare. I do think all mythic skins should not be available in loot chests though.
> [{quoted}](name=BlazinHot6,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-09-26T19:30:36.349+0000) > > I think we can all agree it took some real grinding to get the event tied prestige skins. Personally, I dont see a problem with player's being able to earn them after the fact with prestige points. Prestige points take as long, if not longer to grind up to 100 points. I see it as all the same method for earning the skin, just a different path. If they added a feature to trade prestige points to gemstones (and vice versa), that would be ok too; as they are both somewhat rare. I do think all mythic skins should not be available in loot chests though. Yes! Saving up prestige points over the course of the year through buying and grinding some event passes that ur actually able to grind for is equal effort and more money. Ur just waiting a whole year to use them and get the skin you want.
: Can’t upvote this enough. Not to play the sympathy card, but during the Arcade Event, my Uncle passed away. I had to go home to be with the family for the week. And I felt bad that I even had the thought, “Dang... hope I can grind enough on league when I make it home to still get that prestige arcade Caitlyn skin.” :/ like C’MON. I felt bad for even having that thought. But I’d spent so much time after purchasing the arcade pass and then “grinding” for the tokens already. I was like, what a bummer if I’m not able to make it by the end of the event to get all the event exclusives. I know it’s just a game, but that’s the kind of stupid mental anxiety this kind of system creates in people’s minds. Rito, life happens and gaming is supposed to be an escape from real world stress. Just let people access the content that you release without all these made up restrictions and hoops. Such a feels bad system sometimes. Hope they change their mind on this going forward!
> [{quoted}](name=itsCHANCEyo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2019-09-26T14:14:32.834+0000) > > Can’t upvote this enough. Not to play the sympathy card, but during the Arcade Event, my Uncle passed away. I had to go home to be with the family for the week. And I felt bad that I even had the thought, “Dang... hope I can grind enough on league when I make it home to still get that prestige arcade Caitlyn skin.” :/ like C’MON. I felt bad for even having that thought. But I’d spent so much time after purchasing the arcade pass and then “grinding” for the tokens already. I was like, what a bummer if I’m not able to make it by the end of the event to get all the event exclusives. I know it’s just a game, but that’s the kind of stupid mental anxiety this kind of system creates in people’s minds. Rito, life happens and gaming is supposed to be an escape from real world stress. Just let people access the content that you release without all these made up restrictions and hoops. Such a feels bad system sometimes. Hope they change their mind on this going forward! I’m so sorry this happened to you! I hope things are better! But this is a perfect example of why we should get one more chance to at least grind for it. Maybe perhaps allow us to grind for a past event skin during another event for more tokens. Just like you have to grind for more tokens in order to get a skin in PP shop.
Flemman (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mageichael,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-09-26T06:38:15.958+0000) > > I realize that they never said that. But they never specified what they were actually going to do. And since the other prestige skins were in the shop, MULTIPLE people assumed the event skins were going to end up there as well. They never truly specified it. poeple assuming doesn't mean riot is at fault. From the prestige point announcement > Starting in 9.1, we’re introducing _a different type of prestige skin_ that stays in the store until the end of the year and is _unlockable with new Prestige Points. _ The skins team has a bunch of ideas for future prestige versions of skins, so we are experimenting with another way for us to release these skins throughout the year without limiting them to events. So _we’re keeping event-specific prestige skins_, but adding yearly prestige edition skins, which are craftable for 100 Prestige Points each. These 2019 yearly prestige skins will release throughout the year until they all expire on January 31, 2020, at 11:59 PM PT. they couldn't have been more clear than that, there is event prestige skin and PP prestige skin
> [{quoted}](name=Flemman,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=000d00000000,timestamp=2019-09-26T07:26:00.614+0000) > > poeple assuming doesn't mean riot is at fault. > From the prestige point announcement > Starting in 9.1, we’re introducing _a different type of prestige skin_ that stays in the store until the end of the year and is _unlockable with new Prestige Points. > _ > The skins team has a bunch of ideas for future prestige versions of skins, so we are experimenting with another way for us to release these skins throughout the year without limiting them to events. So _we’re keeping event-specific prestige skins_, but adding yearly prestige edition skins, which are craftable for 100 Prestige Points each. These 2019 yearly prestige skins will release throughout the year until they all expire on January 31, 2020, at 11:59 PM PT. > > they couldn't have been more clear than that, there is event prestige skin and PP prestige skin I realize this also, but what is the purpose of allowing people to get event skins in 2020 and 2021 at the end of the year and not 2019? Like most people did not realize they were going to be an event exclusive thing and expected them to be in the shop at the end of the year. So what is the harm of allowing people to use prestige points on them at the end of this year? Multiple people who have event skins, on this thread and the prestige update thread itself, do not care if someone can purchase the skin in the prestige points shop. It shouldn't matter to such a SMALL demographic!
Flemman (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mageichael,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2019-09-26T06:36:27.781+0000) > > I am mainly referencing to the grinding portion of it though. Many people, including myself, attempted to grind it but had situations in our life outside of the game. So I understand, the people who were able to grind at the time getting the border and icon along with the skin. However, to completely remove the event skin from the prestige point shop is unfair. People should at least have a second chance to grind or wait the span of a whole year to be able to purchase the skin once more. It's not like we did not grind as hard. We just did it at a different time. sorry but, if you are willing to pay now, I think you were also willing to pay the difference in price at that time as grinding+paying was also an option (the best one imo)
> [{quoted}](name=Flemman,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=000f00000000,timestamp=2019-09-26T07:18:10.105+0000) > > sorry but, if you are willing to pay now, I think you were also willing to pay the difference in price at that time as grinding+paying was also an option (the best one imo) I meant build up prestige points. Regardless, the event skin is a prestige skin, so it should be in the prestige shop.
: You may not like it but I'm just stating some facts here. Riot never promised that event skins will be available in the end of year shop. In opposite - they said they will be gone after the event. There were people who bought event orbs to get these skins. And buying enough orbs for event tokens is much more expensive than getting 100PP for money. They would need to offer refunds if they change the rules. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
> [{quoted}](name=Stupid Idea,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-09-26T05:18:36.201+0000) > > You may not like it but I'm just stating some facts here. Riot never promised that event skins will be available in the end of year shop. In opposite - they said they will be gone after the event. There were people who bought event orbs to get these skins. And buying enough orbs for event tokens is much more expensive than getting 100PP for money. They would need to offer refunds if they change the rules. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} I realize that they never said that. But they never specified what they were actually going to do. And since the other prestige skins were in the shop, MULTIPLE people assumed the event skins were going to end up there as well. They never truly specified it.
Flemman (EUW)
: I don't really see a problem with them not bringing back event prestige skin for multiple reason. First, some poeple seems to believe PP=event token (comment like I had 80PP but not enough to unlock the skin at that time) while it's not true. Those were never meant to be unlock with PP in the first place so it's kinda unfair to say riot told us we could purchase those at the end of the year were they clearly said it was for PP skin only (I checked every post to be sure of that) Another thing is unlocking them for PP after the event is not fair for those who got it at the right timing If you look at the number it's more clear : - if you buy 8 pack of 11 chest/key + 13 PP (2250 rp), you have enough to unlock a point prestige skin = 18000 rp - If you wanted to unlock prestige caitlyn with only loot token, you had to buy 5 max price pack (6250 rp) = 31250 rp that's a difference of 13250 rp they had to pay during the event to unlock the skin with shop only, forced to be charged for an extra 52 skin shard in the process They can't really make the decision now to allow those skin to be unlock for 18k rp Lastly, event prestige skin are the only one that really succeed in giving that feeling of rarity they try to create with that new tier of skin (because they really were time limited). They are a one time thing to celebrate an event and, if poeple want to feel prestigious using them, they either grind or buy it during that short period of time. Point prestige skin don't feel the same, they are more like gemstone skin 2.0, a bit more rare because they will go legacy after the end of the year, but still not at the same level of rarity as the real prestige skin since it's way easier to get them In the end, I'm glad they didn't go back for this year, but I hope that they will create something more unique than a border nobody see because of alt+tab^^, like championship riven crown taht you can see ingame, to really give poeple a reason to try to unlock during the event (if it's just a border/icon, I bet most poeple will just wait till end of year to unlock skin with PP)
> [{quoted}](name=Flemman,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-09-26T05:52:03.935+0000) > > I don't really see a problem with them not bringing back event prestige skin for multiple reason. > > First, some poeple seems to believe PP=event token (comment like I had 80PP but not enough to unlock the skin at that time) while it's not true. Those were never meant to be unlock with PP in the first place so it's kinda unfair to say riot told us we could purchase those at the end of the year were they clearly said it was for PP skin only (I checked every post to be sure of that) > > > Another thing is unlocking them for PP after the event is not fair for those who got it at the right timing > If you look at the number it's more clear : > - if you buy 8 pack of 11 chest/key + 13 PP (2250 rp), you have enough to unlock a point prestige skin = 18000 rp > - If you wanted to unlock prestige caitlyn with only loot token, you had to buy 5 max price pack (6250 rp) = 31250 rp > that's a difference of 13250 rp they had to pay during the event to unlock the skin with shop only, forced to be charged for an extra 52 skin shard in the process > They can't really make the decision now to allow those skin to be unlock for 18k rp > > > Lastly, event prestige skin are the only one that really succeed in giving that feeling of rarity they try to create with that new tier of skin (because they really were time limited). They are a one time thing to celebrate an event and, if poeple want to feel prestigious using them, they either grind or buy it during that short period of time. > Point prestige skin don't feel the same, they are more like gemstone skin 2.0, a bit more rare because they will go legacy after the end of the year, but still not at the same level of rarity as the real prestige skin since it's way easier to get them > > > In the end, I'm glad they didn't go back for this year, but I hope that they will create something more unique than a border nobody see because of alt+tab^^, like championship riven crown taht you can see ingame, to really give poeple a reason to try to unlock during the event (if it's just a border/icon, I bet most poeple will just wait till end of year to unlock skin with PP) I am mainly referencing to the grinding portion of it though. Many people, including myself, attempted to grind it but had situations in our life outside of the game. So I understand, the people who were able to grind at the time getting the border and icon along with the skin. However, to completely remove the event skin from the prestige point shop is unfair. People should at least have a second chance to grind or wait the span of a whole year to be able to purchase the skin once more. It's not like we did not grind as hard. We just did it at a different time.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mageichael,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-25T20:19:10.814+0000) > > Why would you make this change for 2020 but not apply it to 2019? It doesn’t make sense, and I just want Prestigous Lux {{champion:99}} D: this is so me. I literally am only missing this skin but its barred behind an exclusive event :( i really hope they bring the event skins back for the prestige shop. I dont mind spending money for my lux
> [{quoted}](name=ThexSuper,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=00000003,timestamp=2019-09-26T04:25:11.696+0000) > > this is so me. I literally am only missing this skin but its barred behind an exclusive event :( i really hope they bring the event skins back for the prestige shop. I dont mind spending money for my lux Yes i hope so too :(((
: > [{quoted}](name=Mageichael,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-25T20:19:10.814+0000) > > Why would you make this change for 2020 but not apply it to 2019? It doesn’t make sense, and I just want Prestigous Lux {{champion:99}} D: They aren't applying it to 2019 because they gave no warning of this ahead of time and it's not fair to the people who grinded for an event specific prestige skin. Now that we know this is going to be a thing, it's okay because we can prepare ahead. Same reason they didn't make the change of silver getting victorious skins final, it's not fair to the people that had already grinded and got them from gold.
> [{quoted}](name=1011010100101000,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-09-26T04:08:25.539+0000) > > They aren't applying it to 2019 because they gave no warning of this ahead of time and it's not fair to the people who grinded for an event specific prestige skin. Now that we know this is going to be a thing, it's okay because we can prepare ahead. Same reason they didn't make the change of silver getting victorious skins final, it's not fair to the people that had already grinded and got them from gold. But they never specified it! I would have loved to know. It's not fair for them to say "no one can get these skins simply because we did not tell you or warn you but we're doing it next year!"
: > [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-25T23:05:13.031+0000) > > Bring them back BUT don't give the border. > > Keep the border for people who invested time into the grinds This is the best solution. Imagine being a player who had 90 or heaven forbid 99 prestige points and then had an emergency, was on call for 72 hours or some other crazy unavoidable life event and missed getting the skin you wanted. The 2019 prestige skins need to be purchasable at the end of year otherwise the prestige point system is just going to be tainted.
> [{quoted}](name=CosmicRain,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-09-25T23:28:55.298+0000) > > This is the best solution. Imagine being a player who had 90 or heaven forbid 99 prestige points and then had an emergency, was on call for 72 hours or some other crazy unavoidable life event and missed getting the skin you wanted. The 2019 prestige skins need to be purchasable at the end of year otherwise the prestige point system is just going to be tainted. Yeah! I was at 1500 tokens LOL. I played as much as I could while going through a really busy month of my life. It isn't fair.
: boi if you don't getcho "look at my chroma" lookin
> [{quoted}](name=GuacInMySock,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-09-25T23:28:58.873+0000) > > boi if you don't getcho "look at my chroma" lookin A GOLDEN CHROMA A GOLDEN CHROMA
: i completely agree, i feel like prestige skins should be available as a reward for people who are truly dedicated to a champion. you got my upvote dude!
> [{quoted}](name=knowledgeable,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-09-25T23:24:30.228+0000) > > i completely agree, i feel like prestige skins should be available as a reward for people who are truly dedicated to a champion. you got my upvote dude! Thank you!! I feel like that is what the purpose of Prestige Skins should be! People who really want the skin should grind or pay a lot of money. The time of the event should not matter.
sxxy (EUNE)
: I've made a big post in other thread, but well I can say couple of words here aswell. Skins like Prestige Editions should be mainly made for all the people who wants to enjoy their champs even more, splitting them between event skins only and prestige shop skins is just not fair because everyone should have a chance to get their favourite prestige skin. I hope Riot will see their mistake..
> [{quoted}](name=sxxy,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-09-25T23:20:26.954+0000) > > I've made a big post in other thread, but well I can say couple of words here aswell. > > Skins like Prestige Editions should be mainly made for all the people who wants to enjoy their champs even more, splitting them between event skins only and prestige shop skins is just not fair because everyone should have a chance to get their favourite prestige skin. > > I hope Riot will see their mistake.. Yes! I'm literally just as much of a customer as people who had the time to play during this event. Can you link the discussion to this thread, so I can read some of the discussion. Thanks!
Antenora (EUW)
: Bring them back BUT don't give the border. Keep the border for people who invested time into the grinds
> [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-25T23:05:13.031+0000) > > Bring them back BUT don't give the border. > > Keep the border for people who invested time into the grinds Yes! I completely agree. I just edited that into my main discussion because I completely agree with that. I would just like a chance to play the skin for my main champion that I always play.
: Just don’t bring back Kai’Sa skin - that was the first prestige skin that was running under the assumption that these golden chromas wouldn’t be everywhere. The 2019 Event vs Store Prestige is whatever. Just do a one off release all. It’s not like most people can get more than one anyways (and this is me who has all the Event prestiges)
> [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-09-25T22:52:19.142+0000) > > Just don’t bring back Kai’Sa skin - that was the first prestige skin that was running under the assumption that these golden chromas wouldn’t be everywhere. > > The 2019 Event vs Store Prestige is whatever. Just do a one off release all. It’s not like most people can get more than one anyways (and this is me who has all the Event prestiges) True! But to be honest, I was still under the impression that Kai'sa would be available at the end of the year. I just don't understand why they'd make it an option in 2020 and not 2019! But thank you for understanding haha
floo (EUW)
: If you can buy the event skins without the border you still have that rarity factor.. what's the problem? It's not like that many people care about who bought the skin when, and those who do can see it by the border..
> [{quoted}](name=floo,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-25T22:02:17.743+0000) > > If you can buy the event skins without the border you still have that rarity factor.. what's the problem? > It's not like that many people care about who bought the skin when, and those who do can see it by the border.. Exactly! If they do want to make that distinction, then getting rid of the border is fine. All I want is the skin LOL. Thank you for the response!
: Relatable. I spent abt $15 for the project pass and grinded what I thought to be enough hours to get the prestige irelia skin but before I knew it the event was over and I was lacking 20 tokens worth of time... If I got the chance to get the skin without spending hundreds of dollars again then I would but looks like I wasted my time and money bc I couldn’t “grind hard enough”.
> [{quoted}](name=Yung Shikikan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-25T21:32:26.339+0000) > > Relatable. I spent abt $15 for the project pass and grinded what I thought to be enough hours to get the prestige irelia skin but before I knew it the event was over and I was lacking 20 tokens worth of time... If I got the chance to get the skin without spending hundreds of dollars again then I would but looks like I wasted my time and money bc I couldn’t “grind hard enough”. That sucks so much! I hope Riot ends up changing this somehow
: I personally have the akali prestige skin and would not care if someone else got it by grinding up points through the year. Periodr
> [{quoted}](name=spoderbou,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-25T20:43:34.394+0000) > > I personally have the akali prestige skin and would not care if someone else got it by grinding up points through the year. Periodr Exactly! Thank you
: > [{quoted}](name=Mageichael,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-25T20:19:10.814+0000) > > Why would you make this change for 2020 but not apply it to 2019? It doesn’t make sense, and I just want Prestigous Lux {{champion:99}} D: EXACTLY THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT!! They weren’t clear originally on how prestige points work so it’s not fair for them to restrict these from us!!
> [{quoted}](name=AlexPepperoni,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yxEliueI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-25T20:34:27.602+0000) > > EXACTLY THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT!! > > They weren’t clear originally on how prestige points work so it’s not fair for them to restrict these from us!! That’s a good point! If they had been more clear with what they were planning, less people would be upset right now. Thank you for the support!
: Bring Back Event Skins to the Prestige Point Shop
Why would you make this change for 2020 but not apply it to 2019? It doesn’t make sense, and I just want Prestigous Lux {{champion:99}} D:
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