: How would you guys Balance Yasuo and Pyke
A big problem with Yasuo is kinda 3 fold: First his windwall. Just get rid of it. Rather they replaced it with an ability that gave him a shield or sustain then something that just makes him immune to skillshots. Second, remove the double crit passive. Losing lane should mean something to him but because of his passive once he gets one item he spikes regardless of his laning. Third, He has way too much synergy with knock up champs and its braindead easy to build a team around him without much you can do. Doesnt matter how crappy the yasuo is they will baby him and setup easy kills for him which is extra bad because it doesnt need many items. Point number 3 is probably why i perma ban him. I mostly can deal with his windwall personally.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=datfatguy,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2mBfE31J,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-15T07:10:44.227+0000) > > My dude it says Zed not Zoe Oops... My bad. My Zoe hate got the better of me there.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2mBfE31J,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-15T07:18:29.931+0000) > > Oops... > > My bad. > > My Zoe hate got the better of me there. Surprised you hate her so much when you havent went against a Zoe in 100+ games and in over 30+ days. Its not like its yasuo where if he isnt banned you see him everyday lol.
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=King Braum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WYEiEkJv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-17T08:51:24.625+0000) > > Isn't that the entire point of Glass canons? They are immobile mages that have massive burst damage at the cost of their mobility and defense. Is she a glass canon tho? Mages build HP compared to ADC (That cant kill you in 3 abilities/autos)
> [{quoted}](name=Jesi Oni,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WYEiEkJv,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-17T08:59:39.746+0000) > > Is she a glass canon tho? Mages build HP compared to ADC (That cant kill you in 3 abilities/autos) Yea that whole 300 hp from {{item:3165}} just makes them the epitome of tanks/bruisers now. I bet if the pyke caught her in his combo he would of just flat out killed her.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: I like how everybody is focusing on how Pyke survived
You mean the "Burst" Mage? They are suppose to do that, especially to supports who unless they are tanks suppose to be the squishiest targets on the map.
: Champions you should ban if you don't want to lose LP
Yuumi has a 43% WR, it sounds more like a salt list than a realistic one
Dynikus (NA)
: The problem with your argument is you're acting like people in soloq don't hate her as well. Despite having such a low winrate, she's maintained a high ban rate across every elo for her entire time on the rift. She feels horrible to play against, and horrible to play with. Her kit is just toxic by design for everyone but the yuumi player. Making any champion untargettable for 90% of the game while giving them a near impossible to miss AOE root, near impossible to miss poke with a potent slow, healing, a speed up, and a shield, was just destined to be nerfed into oblivion.
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OAEVL1PA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-12T23:34:26.473+0000) > > The problem with your argument is you're acting like people in soloq don't hate her as well. Despite having such a low winrate, she's maintained a high ban rate across every elo for her entire time on the rift. She feels horrible to play against, and horrible to play with. Her kit is just toxic by design for everyone but the yuumi player. > Making any champion untargettable for 90% of the game while giving them a near impossible to miss AOE root, near impossible to miss poke with a potent slow, healing, a speed up, and a shield, was just destined to be nerfed into oblivion. Her being untargettable doesnt really matter when she is a low impact champion. Furthermore you kill the host and she is basically a free kill most of the time. Third she is completely useless outside of someone(almost minion tier). Her Heals get outclassed by every heal support. Her poke gets outclassed by any support, and every shield support has better CC heals, and overall a better kit. Theres a reaosn her WR has been a persistent 43%. You arguments have been said before about most champions(even Janna) but none have been gutted even further while at a 43% WR.
Nasakeki (NA)
: Just delete Yuumi, please.
I enjoyed playing her but if they are going to nerf a 43% WR champion instead of reworking it than yea better off just removing her at this point.
: Melee basic attacks should detach Yuumi
her q is getting gutted and the champion has a 43% WR pre nerf. Why are we complaining about yuumi at this point when she is the worst champion in the game.
Ryelic (NA)
: Aatrox feels legitimately awful to play in lane now.
Thank pro play for it. Yuumi is getting a hard nerf again because it when she is sitting at 43% WR and has been for several weeks now.
Lakinther (EUW)
: When can i expect nerfs to Pyke and Yuumi?
I wouldnt hold my breath on Yuumi nerfs she is sitting at 44% WR.
Toyohisa (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=75ti99Jy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-12T16:59:36.626+0000) > > next week Really? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=Toyohisa,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=75ti99Jy,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-12T17:00:58.845+0000) > > Really? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} i deleted the post less than a minute after making it because it was on the wrong thread how fast do you guys respond to stuff lol.
: Where Are My Star Guardians??
Patch says Sept 12, its PST time. Its barely 10am there.
Tsuko (NA)
: I'd love to see someone try to defend on how "First timing champions in ranked is perfectly fine".
I think if your teammates do it first then its fine. you are going to lose anyways may as well get something out of the game like some practice on a new champ. But really i cannot stand when people first time champs in rank, quite literally thats what norms is for. Alternatively i also cant stand when ppl crap on others for trying new champs in normal as well.
Cãtãlinn (EUNE)
: This s*** is driving me crazy
I prefer people dodging not getting their main or sub role as oppose to losing because of autofill.
forresto (NA)
: Too many people in mid?
i set mid primary and supp secondary and get mid nearly everytime. Maybe its your elo?
: Why do turrets seem to be helping enemy team ?
I am not gonna lie i feel like my turret is helping the enemy snowball harder with the turret plating however the alternative is unpunished roaming.
: PC Requirements
Depends on if you mean Ingame or the client. I am stillt tryin to figure out the system requirements on the client side
Manxxom (NA)
: When your support is a pro yuumi
This is probably the best thing ive ever seen.
puśsý (NA)
: It's time that voice chat is implemented
We can mute ppls text chat and pings. what makes you think ppl wont do the same with voice chat, i knowi would.
: Why everyone is ragequitting even in ranked now?
Your teammates are not giving you a reason to try anymore. The bad habits of positional rank has carryed over. People are first timing champs in ranked, taking champs to off lanes and feeding and all the while expecting you not to give up and deal with it.
: What's the point of a ranked system in this game?
rujitra (NA)
: Blunt yes. But nothing I have said is untrue.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jF02qtzw,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-09-07T03:08:19.370+0000) > > Blunt yes. But nothing I have said is untrue. just because you have a difference of opinion with someone does not mean they have any less right to post here. So no, everything you said is not true.
: From a business side of things, riot isn't gonna make money if they don't charge this product. It would make sense for riot to actually change eternals and actually make it an actual good quality product if they're charging any money for the game. People are complaining because the product is weak compared to other games who offer it for free and it's being charged for money. But this strictly isn't the thread for that discussion. So I'm gonna yeet out.
> [{quoted}](name=im a moron,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EZbFid2X,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-09-06T17:10:54.749+0000) > > From a business side of things, riot isn't gonna make money if they don't charge this product. > > It would make sense for riot to actually change eternals and actually make it an actual good quality product if they're charging any money for the game. > > People are complaining because the product is weak compared to other games who offer it for free and it's being charged for money. > > But this strictly isn't the thread for that discussion. > > So I'm gonna yeet out. I agree, putting a paywall behind crap isnt gonna make people pay for it.
: Took a break from Ranked for a couple of days.....
15minutes? That happens to me closer to 8mins
: im pretty sure you could always do that
> [{quoted}](name=MaskedMadness,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EUXLWtk6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-05T02:49:56.227+0000) > > im pretty sure you could always do that Not the specific feature he is talking about which if you do not use it you would know. If you have Allied chat muted then it also mutes your own chat. Meaning if you try to type something it gives you an error message saying you need to have allied chat turn on. That stops toxicity both ways.
Xphineas (NA)
: Full Ap "supports"
Most things can support. If they can protect you and help you survive in lane that's it really aside from also vision control(which is also a team effort), theres aa reason those supports you mentioned have higher WRs as support than Mid, it is because they are capable of doing those things.
: Evelynn required a nerf so they nerfed Q cdr by 10% now they say she needs a buff and guess what...
Does she have a skin or something comin out soon? All jokes aside i think they REALLY want to see more AP junglers. Heres food for thought, Make more AP junglers. Every single jungler you have released after Eve have been AD except {{champion:427}} and he isnt even meta. Jungle diversity is extremely poor atm. They even gone so far as to give shyvanna an AP build. Just make more AP junglers.
: 2 bans each? why? they already gave us 5 bans, and made it so everyone got a ban. That's more than enough
> [{quoted}](name=BongMage420,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PfENY8er,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-04T00:53:11.226+0000) > > 2 bans each? why? they already gave us 5 bans, and made it so everyone got a ban. That's more than enough Because unlike in pro play, people duplicate bans all the time so instead of it feeling like 10 bans it feels closer to 6-8. If they do not want to make it so that true 10 bans is possible than 2 bans is the best alternative.
: Low Spec Mode isn't Low Spec at all
i Have an I7 9700k and the client somehow ends up using 3.3% of my CPU doing nothing, that makes nos sense especially with how good this CPU is and how essentually the client isnt even ingame. The ingame client somehow uses less CPU than the base client.
: PSA: Ahri Charm Doesn't Go Through Minions.
Think that's bad try playing Zoe and watching you jg yeet into lane with a large minion wave expecting you to follow up.
: That...would defeat a lot of the point of autofill. The point of autofill is so that one role nobody likes actually gets played. There's a reason that playing support also gives you autofill protection.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qsHTrEHW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-04T00:50:20.041+0000) > > That...would defeat a lot of the point of autofill. > > The point of autofill is so that one role nobody likes actually gets played. There's a reason that playing support also gives you autofill protection. Depends on elo, vast majority of players auto fill that locked out 1 role would be a massive improvement and its not like everyone is going to block the same role. For example i set Mid/Support and have been Autofilled into Top/Bot quite a lot.
: Camping a lane is just bad and doesn’t win you a game, it usually just does the opposite thing. If the enemy/your jungler can't punish someone who just camps a lane then he is just bad at jungle.
> [{quoted}](name=Crystalysk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E0AFK16L,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-02T16:33:26.259+0000) > > Camping a lane is just bad and doesn’t win you a game, it usually just does the opposite thing. > If the enemy/your jungler can't punish someone who just camps a lane then he is just bad at jungle. I beg to differ. stastically you only need one losing lane and then ther jg can rotate between the two winning ones.
Altiverse (EUNE)
: Top lane has become such a masochistic lane I'm queueing as support primary and still get top
: So they are buffing Riven
I think most people are still kinda in withdrawals from how long and strong riven has been for a long time. Her WRs and delta are very low atm, a buff to riven is actually appropriate, the bigger question is how much of a buff are they planning.
: I don't think Zoe needs buffs, she doesn't feel weak when I play her.
> [{quoted}](name=2Charmnot2Charm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sEIvj4Jj,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-31T00:17:47.968+0000) > > I don't think Zoe needs buffs, she doesn't feel weak when I play her. I feel like its hard for her to shine really in this elo and her delta is actually fairly low. She has a 49% WR with a 54% delta. Would like to see a delta of 56% but ultimately i do not think its because she should be buffed but really every outliner should be nerfed.
: Mobility is not out of control, it is exactly as they have intended it. You guys just need to lower your expectations and accept that this is not the same game anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=RustyMachete,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=87mJr01k,comment-id=0019,timestamp=2019-08-29T21:49:16.178+0000) > > Mobility is not out of control, it is exactly as they have intended it. You guys just need to lower your expectations and accept that this is not the same game anymore. I'd disagree. Mobility used to be one of the things special about a champion as in not all champions got it but usually have some price to pay for it. Now its just a base part of kit design.
Moody P (NA)
: I*literally* explained that this is happening because Annie is easily outperformed by champions who can do the same job from further away or more often. Again, mobility is barely relevant here; the bulk of champions who are mobile and have the AOE CC potential Annie does are tanks and other mages. Most if not all the fighters who fit into this category are old diver designs who were around well before people complained about mobility creep. Annie is bad because even melee champions have damage spells that can match if not surpass her range nowadays.
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=87mJr01k,comment-id=000a00000003,timestamp=2019-08-29T16:14:40.322+0000) > > I*literally* explained that this is happening because Annie is easily outperformed by champions who can do the same job from further away or more often. Again, mobility is barely relevant here; the bulk of champions who are mobile and have the AOE CC potential Annie does are tanks and other mages. Most if not all the fighters who fit into this category are old diver designs who were around well before people complained about mobility creep. Annie is bad because even melee champions have damage spells that can match if not surpass her range nowadays. Really fail to see the point in continuing this argument. You still have yet to address the actual point i was making(here's a hint, its not actually about Annie.). You keep telling me why she needs the buff and i keep telling you yes she needs the buff and thats a problem. Don't know what else to say other than why are you pushing me into a position/stance i never took?
Ahris (NA)
: What is the issue? Annie has a very powerful aoe ulti, which can AOE stun, while also having the ability to 100-0 squishies. Near instant ultimate as well. There has to be SOME weakness to this or there will be near no counterplay against her combos. Giving her counterplay by making it a longer casting, or making it a projectile, sure, but that is no longer her identity. Annie's identity is a low counter burst mage. And i believe she does that. She falls off later in elo because they know her tibbers range and can kinda avoid it. There are still players who CAN play Annie in highelo like Annie Bot, and there are items like spellbinder and protobelt that helps your engage and make her kit basically no counters. Annie is fine, and the changes coming will probably make her stronger.
> [{quoted}](name=Ahris,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=87mJr01k,comment-id=000a00000001,timestamp=2019-08-29T13:37:27.165+0000) > > What is the issue? Annie has a very powerful aoe ulti, which can AOE stun, while also having the ability to 100-0 squishies. Near instant ultimate as well. There has to be SOME weakness to this or there will be near no counterplay against her combos. > > Giving her counterplay by making it a longer casting, or making it a projectile, sure, but that is no longer her identity. Annie's identity is a low counter burst mage. And i believe she does that. She falls off later in elo because they know her tibbers range and can kinda avoid it. There are still players who CAN play Annie in highelo like Annie Bot, and there are items like spellbinder and protobelt that helps your engage and make her kit basically no counters. > > Annie is fine, and the changes coming will probably make her stronger. If you think i am saying these changes are bad for Annie or they shouldnt happen then please just get out the thread, its clear u had no intention of reading.
: Why are they removing annie from the game
If you played Annie properly than these changes are good, if u just used your E exclusively to build charges than thats on you.
: Make ap items not as good (and get mages out of bot lane)
Mages are not in bot lane out of choice, its because we cant survive against assassins mid. Stick a lux, brand, zyra for example mid against a zed, talon, qiyana and they will be eaten alive. Theres a reason everytime those champions get nerfed they try to avoid nerfing their mid lane and why they are always trying to buff their mid lane strength. What you are suggesting is going to kill scaling ap, and make ap champions with high base numbers go exclusively bot even harder than before. A lot of the bot ap champs are good BECAUSE they aren't item dependent.
: > [{quoted}](name=mark6028,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3VRqlHuZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-26T12:53:26.932+0000) > I wonder why riot keeps losing revenue. It's definitely not a shitty product no one wants to play anymore. There just isn't enough monetization i'm sure that's the reason you keep losing revenue. loot boxes little legends prestige skins rito james are not game devs anymore. they are whale hunters.
> [{quoted}](name=ShyImagoghnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3VRqlHuZ,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2019-08-27T23:51:09.760+0000) > > loot boxes > little legends > prestige skins > > rito james are not game devs anymore. they are whale hunters. Dont forget Eternals
mark6028 (EUW)
: Aww yeah season 9
Ever had gold/plat vs. gold/low silver? i have. The eginning of the season screwed up MMR and they only fixed it for diamond+, they didnt fix it everywhere else so screwed till rank reset.
LC72 (NA)
: Really Riot? [NERFS{
They need nerfs. They are a terror in the hands of people who know how to play them. At best you could make an argument to make them easier to learn/for lower skilled players but their nerfs are fully justified.
musixxal (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=87mJr01k,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-08-29T11:53:09.022+0000) > > Lets just get this out the way first, Ive played a lot of Annie(almost 1m mastery) i am WELL Aware of what buffs she needs and doesnt. I am not "unappeasable" i am not arguing against the buff at all. You entirely miss the point of my post and act condescending. What you are saying about why annie needs the buff not only do i already know that but everyone else in this thread knows that. This tells me right there that any for of reading comprehension is lost on you > > Now that we that out the way. The point of the thread is NOT(make sure we are playing attention here) that the buffs are bad for Annie(in fact they are precisely what she needs) but the problem is why she needs them in the first place, the core issue. the game evolved around the champion. this is something you already signed up for so why is this now an issue?
> [{quoted}](name=musixxal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=87mJr01k,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2019-08-29T11:55:56.460+0000) > > the game evolved around the champion. > this is something you already signed up for so why is this now an issue? I didnt say it should elovle around the champion, it should evolve around "immobile" champions. Meaning specifically it should keep them in mind. Should have to make immobile champions, mobile. You are killing an entire archtype that way.
: what make annie so bad is not mobility creep, its the fact she cant reach anyone who out range her unless she flash which is pretty much every adc/mage in the game. this buff is more to address this issue and make her better vs those while not doing much for her vs real mobile champions imo.
> [{quoted}](name=hrooza dota ,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=87mJr01k,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-08-29T11:52:53.289+0000) > > what make annie so bad is not mobility creep, its the fact she cant reach anyone who out range her unless she flash which is pretty much every adc/mage in the game. > > this buff is more to address this issue and make her better vs those while not doing much for her vs real mobile champions imo. That is because of mobility creep. I want to point out her ranges were longer at one point and then they nerfed them because support Annie was dominating in Season 4. then they buffed AAA range back up before finally giving her the mobility buff. Before then in previous seasons she was far mroe useful other than "flash tibbers" and Flash tibbers was more of a perk not what her whole gameplay was designed around. Now Flash tibbers is so slow you have to either flash w or flash but even than ppl are able to see you coming and dash away when before they could see you coming but if they were in a bad position mobility couldnt save the day for them
Moody P (NA)
: Annie is getting a movement buff so she can justify herself better in a time of the game where other champions can do her job better and without needing Flash. Range and CC factors into this so much more than mobility does. I remember how people used to whine about how Flash dependent Annie was and now that they try to address it its mobility creep. Ridiculous how unappeasable you people can be.
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=87mJr01k,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-08-29T09:12:57.501+0000) > > Annie is getting a movement buff so she can justify herself better in a time of the game where other champions can do her job better and without needing Flash. Range and CC factors into this so much more than mobility does. > > I remember how people used to whine about how Flash dependent Annie was and now that they try to address it its mobility creep. Ridiculous how unappeasable you people can be. Lets just get this out the way first, Ive played a lot of Annie(almost 1m mastery) i am WELL Aware of what buffs she needs and doesnt. I am not "unappeasable" i am not arguing against the buff at all. You entirely miss the point of my post and act condescending. What you are saying about why annie needs the buff not only do i already know that but everyone else in this thread knows that. This tells me right there that any for of reading comprehension is lost on you Now that we that out the way. The point of the thread is NOT(make sure we are playing attention here) that the buffs are bad for Annie(in fact they are precisely what she needs) but the problem is why she needs them in the first place, the core issue.
musixxal (EUW)
: this thread is why riot don't listen to the boards lmao.
> [{quoted}](name=musixxal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=87mJr01k,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-08-29T08:43:00.773+0000) > > this thread is why riot don't listen to the boards lmao. Care to elaborate? My argument is that you have a champion that has essentially been the baseline for the game since launch a mobility buff so they can survive in this meta when other champions for all intent and purposes should have been designed in a way where it should not effect immobile champions like her. You counter argument is non-existant and your response is lazy at best.
: STOP PUTTING UNRANKED PLAYERS IN HIGH SILVER
Think thats bad i get them in high gold, literally everytime i touch G2 i get flooded with unranked and low silver(Silver 4 0 lp) teammates and it doesnt take rocket science to tell how they will perform.
: The MS isn't gonna do much vs champs with dashes, it will help her setup against dash/flashless champs a lot tho.
> [{quoted}](name=2Charmnot2Charm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=87mJr01k,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-29T02:46:40.488+0000) > > The MS isn't gonna do much vs champs with dashes, it will help her setup against dash/flashless champs a lot tho. Well i do not deny that she needs it however the bigger problem is that she needs it in the first place.
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