: Best 6300 Champions in General
Zoe for mid and yes i am being complete biased.
: you get support 99% of the time when you queue support mid, except when yuumi was released
> [{quoted}](name=Sea Slug Menace,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ybh9mAov,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2019-05-22T08:44:53.750+0000) > > you get support 99% of the time when you queue support mid, except when yuumi was released I mean that goes for any new champion in the lane they go to, i still remember when gnar came out. What does that actually have to do with the average statistics. Things will normalize back to the way they were in less than a couple weeks.
Deprecious (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spotty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YPxiek19,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-05-22T05:42:54.418+0000) > > that makes zero sense. eash team has a support, one team has to win and lose {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} As as support you have the least impact on the game, it is a role you cannot carry with, it is way too much team reliant, and the last place where you want to heavily rely on your team is bronze/silver/gold
> [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YPxiek19,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-05-22T11:24:32.314+0000) > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} > > As as support you have the least impact on the game, it is a role you cannot carry with, it is way too much team reliant don't know about that one, support has impact, just not as flashy as other lanes. Vision, Peels, heals/shields, and cc just to name a few. They arent the ones getting the kills or taking the objectives so people easily ignore their game impact until its too late. Ever wonder why that adc is snowballing, 9 times out of 10 its not because of the adc.
: Champs to play and not to play if you're bronze/iron
Kazamaru (NA)
: So here are just a few pointers: #1: As long as you aren't trolling, statistically your opponents will have 25% more trolls/afks than your team. This one is just primarily to help your mental game. #2: Pick a champion/role combination that will allow you to have impact in your most dynamic way. As a support I would play {{champion:37}} because late game she is literally the most broken champion in League. Once you hit 11 and have your core {{item:3100}} + {{item:3040}} it's literally busted. Alternately, {{champion:111}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:53}} can just make plays for your team for days.(It does require a team though.) #3: Always try to work with your team. I like to say "Gj bot" or "nj Riv" every single time my team does something good. Literally, this is a HUGE way of getting people to feel positive about themselves and you and then as a result, when you say to "grp mid" then...all of a sudden people are literally 3x as likely to actually follow your call.(also, whenever someone says a negative comment that is out of place, literally instantly mute them. No exceptions. There is literally NO reason to hear a teammate when they are upset, it's not worth potentially hurting your own mental state because of someone else's poor mental state.) #4: Bounties are literally super dumb right now. So always let your team know when their is a large bounty on an enemy. Cashing in on bounties is just awesome for comebacks these days. #5: No lead is too big to throw in SoloQ. Never surrender except for your own mental state. Good luck in the climb.
> [{quoted}](name=Kazamaru,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ybh9mAov,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-05-22T04:02:42.662+0000) > > So here are just a few pointers: > > #1: As long as you aren't trolling, statistically your opponents will have 25% more trolls/afks than your team. This one is just primarily to help your mental game. Your statistics are off. You also need to factor in the probability of getting trolls to begin with. a flat 25% only makes sense in the world where everyone is trolling when they arent. You also need to factor in getting your role, the amount of impact your role has into matchups as well.
Lioxim (NA)
: How do I get out of Silver? Any and all input welcome.
You stop playing after 2 losses in a row and when you do play, you pray for a lucky winning streak.
fatelin (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TUl3tKHj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-21T07:56:33.589+0000) > > I think she is good, i dont think she is busted. She feels more like taking pieces from both Soraka and Sona. She has a bit more healing than Sona but less than soraka, a bit mroe poke than Soraka but less than Sona, weaker ultimate than both but also has a shield. The thing with Soraka and Sona's damage and sustain is that they in themselves are extremely vulnerable to dieing. Yuumi isn't necessarily easy to kill because of how slippery she is if she has an ally near her.
> [{quoted}](name=fatelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TUl3tKHj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-21T08:44:06.611+0000) > > The thing with Soraka and Sona's damage and sustain is that they in themselves are extremely vulnerable to dieing. Yuumi isn't necessarily easy to kill because of how slippery she is if she has an ally near her. Actually she is, she is squishier than those two and if she just sit in the adc all game then its a 2v1 lane, she will have no gold, won't have any vision, and not finish her sightstone item in a reasonable time. Yuumi players instead will be weaving in and out to try and proc actually leaving them with moments of weaknesses. Everytime i see statements like these it makes me question if people have even played the champion. The following things supports have to do that also includes Yuumi: Pressure lane(her Qs are not going to be enough to do that you also need to be out autoing hince why her passive rewards her for that) helping controlling the wave so you do not get shoved in(meaning again she needs to be outside the adc to do that) Warding(outside the adc again) Clearing Wards Poking(both with Q and jumping out for autos) Her obvious weakness in comparison to Sona and Soraka is she has to do those things while being both squishier and has to be attached to heal/shield while the sona/soraka do not(hell Soraka has a global Heal).
: thats how riot wants it. no early game dominance with zoe Q at lvl 1 her W having summoner spells with equal to ahri's W is enough tools in 1 ability. we dont need empowered ones her E hits minions for the same reason lb's E hits minions, ahri's E hits minions, akali's E hits minions, not to fucking shit on enemies early game easily... her ult is supposed to be a tool to make her Q travel further dealing more damage. not a fucking escape tool why doesn't ahri get ad scalings? why doesn't lb? why doesn't etc...? {{champion:84}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:81}} they all build hextech gunblade effectivly. that's why. overall she needs to either be deleted or reworked. her balancing is impossible. soon she's gonna be azir 2.0 with half her mechanics gone
> [{quoted}](name=ned the kled,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kQ37Klx7,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-04T08:56:03.361+0000) > > thats how riot wants it. no early game dominance with zoe Q at lvl 1 > > her W having summoner spells with equal to ahri's W is enough tools in 1 ability. we dont need empowered ones > > her E hits minions for the same reason lb's E hits minions, ahri's E hits minions, akali's E hits minions, not to fucking shit on enemies early game easily... > > her ult is supposed to be a tool to make her Q travel further dealing more damage. not a fucking escape tool > > why doesn't ahri get ad scalings? why doesn't lb? why doesn't etc...? > > {{champion:84}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:81}} they all build hextech gunblade effectivly. that's why. > > overall she needs to either be deleted or reworked. her balancing is impossible. soon she's gonna be azir 2.0 with half her mechanics gone Just because you find the champion annoying does not mean she is not balanced.
Mannny (NA)
: Yuumi should take a portion of damage from enemies if she's attached to an ally
"This may sound dumb", if the start of your statement starts like this then yea it probably is dumb.
: Idk but if u have the mindset of not giving a sht about what other players do then ur fine lol ive hopped between multiple servers for the past years and stood to one thing play to enjoy and play to have fun easily climbed to diamond within a week getting mad or blaming matchmaking is a complete waste of time just have fun{{champion:222}}
> [{quoted}](name=Eternity Winner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OzBBmpfh,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-21T04:30:00.802+0000) > > Idk but if u have the mindset of not giving a sht about what other players do then ur fine lol ive hopped between multiple servers for the past years and stood to one thing play to enjoy and play to have fun easily climbed to diamond within a week getting mad or blaming matchmaking is a complete waste of time just have fun{{champion:222}} Mindset doesnt mean anything really. I could tilt out of this world and win games and i can /mute all and focus up and still lose. The biggest problem i am seeing is the potential to carry has gone down but the match making system is still stacking the odds against you. I can go through my enitre match history and not see a single case where my teaam did not have teammates several tiers below me, in what universe should i have a silver 4 on my team when i was G2? Those games are over before they even started and they are quite frequent in this season.
: This is because she is a high elo only champion. She requires high lvl of mechanics.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenTeaAndPoro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TUl3tKHj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-21T07:58:42.043+0000) > > This is because she is a high elo only champion. She requires high lvl of mechanics. I disagree with that, her w is just a noob trap. Her execution isnt that hard as long as you are doing the correct things.
fatelin (NA)
: Yuumi is busted.
I think she is good, i dont think she is busted. She feels more like taking pieces from both Soraka and Sona. She has a bit more healing than Sona but less than soraka, a bit mroe poke than Soraka but less than Sona, weaker ultimate than both but also has a shield.
NmSvvv (NA)
: Poll on thoughts of yuumi
I feel like you should get a 14 day ban for making my waste my time by clicking in here.
Sir Gusi (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=MorgManBasher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q6hjXNbN,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-19T22:57:14.114+0000) > > If Yuumi gets buffs she will probably be perma banned once more people learn to play her and stop turbo inting on her. > The champ is ridiculously strong when played properly with little counterplay to Q harass other than hoping to run out of range of it in time. > > I think a lot of her bad winrate is people being literally never leaving their ADC to get their auto shield off and not baiting out skill shots with her w. > Like, her passive shield is disgustingly strong. She just makes laning hard with having only 1 body to attack, needing to focus the ADC while other ardent champs you can dive/kill them first. I know as a support main myself, I generally focus the ardent supports first, then the ADC unless the ADC can not be ignored or is out of position, but I can not do that with this champ. > > Please riot for the love of baby Jesus do not buff this champ and let people learn her first for like a month, then decide. > > I'd say the strongest counter I found so far is {{champion:89}} and just hard diving the ADC > > One character Yuumi is extremely strong against is {{champion:63}} who literally can't get his double bounces without minions and even then yuumi can w to her ADC when brand ult is coming to her and make it disappear if she plays it right...all the while in lane can can harass hard and shield/heal her ADC through the brand poke. I think you kinda right and wrong I feel she needs a buff but she should be left alone for now so Roit can make the best choice when they want to buff her I'd say leave her alone for a month or 2 but she is weak I have no doubt about that.
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Gusi,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q6hjXNbN,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2019-05-20T12:54:16.916+0000) > > I think you kinda right and wrong I feel she needs a buff but she should be left alone for now so Roit can make the best choice when they want to buff her I'd say leave her alone for a month or 2 but she is weak I have no doubt about that. dont think she needs a buff at all, her shield is strong and her heals are good. The only thing i would change about her kit is change the root in her ultimate into a stun.
: My TRIALS 2019 TOKEN are all gone.
post in bugs not in gameplay.
: Idk about u league has always been the same been playing this game before season 1 was a thing
> [{quoted}](name=Eternity Winner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OzBBmpfh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-20T05:48:50.745+0000) > > Idk about u league has always been the same been playing this game before season 1 was a thing Nah snowball characters had much bigger impact on the game. Strangely enough as the game has gotten more balanced, your teams have mattered more.
Ńasus (NA)
: League is unbalanced
I know people don't wanna hear this but there are more viable champions now(both soloq and the LCS) then there was in the past by a long shot. The amount of champions you cant play can be count on 1 hand and the champions that are too strong can also be count on 1 hand but people will cling to the notion that the game is massively unbalanced because its a popular opinion.
: 10 minutes into a normals queue, queued up as support, high silver-mid gold
you are queuing up as support when a new support releases of course it will be long queues.
: Morgana is a problem.
i mean you can say the same about thresh and blitz hooks
: Your Game Is Slowly Dying
The games been dying since season 1? how long is it gonna take another 10 years?
Ladrien (NA)
: I ban Yuumi so my teammates cant play her, because shes garbage.
Okay OP just dont get mad if they troll pick lol.
DUDE BRO (NA)
: The only time I see Yuumi banned is when I hover her, and my own team bans her from me. Anyway, pull champs are strong vs her, as you essentially either pull both at once, or you pull yuumi and then interrupt her dash back, making her an easy kill.
> [{quoted}](name=DUDE BRO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q6hjXNbN,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-05-20T01:40:43.316+0000) > > The only time I see Yuumi banned is when I hover her, and my own team bans her from me. > > Anyway, pull champs are strong vs her, as you essentially either pull both at once, or you pull yuumi and then interrupt her dash back, making her an easy kill. No they are not, tired of ppl saying this. you should have a shield on your adc before the pull happens and if u get pulled u should be jumping out to proc another shield and jumping back in, not to mention she doesnt have to take flash you get to take ignite and heal/exhaust. If you just mindlessly sit on our adc all game then yea she sucks lol. She is mroe likely to get nerfed than buffed though.
Moody P (NA)
: Mages take skill but they're probably on the middle-low end alongside fighters except for a handful of mechanical champions like Azir Asol and Ryze
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ue3mzsQO,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-05-18T11:53:26.815+0000) > > Mages take skill but they're probably on the middle-low end alongside fighters except for a handful of mechanical champions like Azir Asol and Ryze Hard disagree, spread across all archetypes there are easy and hard champs. There are mages that are harder to play then most assassins, there are fighters harder to play then most things in the game. Whats hard and whats easy is determined by the champions not their category.
Moody P (NA)
: interesting you leave out he was being camped and also against one of Viktors hardest counter picks
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ue3mzsQO,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-18T11:52:31.043+0000) > > interesting you leave out he was being camped and also against one of Viktors hardest counter picks Interesting you leave out that he said the champion was so busted that none of that stuff matters. Edit: in case you need a refresher of his rant on the champion and how much he was pumping up how strong he was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVjMoTDbqqk
: 3 years plat, 2 years gold - stuck in silver
MMR is massively screwed up right now because of the rank reset that happened a few months ago. Whats funny is they applied a patch to address it for higher elos but lower elos they figure it doesnt matter. Getting fresh 30s in my gold 2 games feels bad, getting people who are silver 4 feels bad as well, the system is just completely bonkers right now.
: Do Mages take skill to play?
Mages take skill to play, you are just salty that you lost to one. Its funny really, if you were to turn around and play that exact same mage you would get stomped. This reminds me of the time Hashinshin said the same thing about Viktor top but then when he played him he fed so hard that the system thought he was inting and gave him a 2 week ban.
Toxenius (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=JungleChopper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Q9ZXAEw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-17T01:46:06.931+0000) > > kayle is like nasus you basically have to play mega safe and just wait and wait until you somehow end up carrying > > If you deny this ive seen soo many kayle that were negative and low on cs but managed to come back and carry the game because of smart plays defending their base and getting their cs up Like I said, I DO do that, but most of the time late game never comes either we win without my assistance or we lose because i couldn't' help sooner. A strategy shouldn't be "hide and pray" i feel. nasus can at least zone with his aoe, Kayle doesn't even have a decent base stat for autoing minions
> [{quoted}](name=Toxenius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9Q9ZXAEw,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-17T02:19:32.016+0000) > > Like I said, I DO do that, but most of the time late game never comes either we win without my assistance or we lose because i couldn't' help sooner. A strategy shouldn't be "hide and pray" i feel. nasus can at least zone with his aoe, Kayle doesn't even have a decent base stat for autoing minions if you are playing kayle, much like nasus they are going to make sure you are useless early. If you are locking in Kayle you should automatically assume that is going to happen to you.
: Yuumi does quite a lot actually, her regular Q's can be thrown out a ton to harass, she can shield with an auto and bait out spells with W, also W grants your host increasing amounts of AD if you put points into it which is a definite trade advantage damage wise. Honestly i think her win ratio reflects ADC that are quite bad at positioning and relied upon anti engage supports to fix their positioning mistakes which is something yuumi cannot do since she is not leona, thresh, brand, janna. So in effect yuumi helps good adc shine and the bad ones to appear even worse. That being said many yuumi i have seen just don't play her right from skill orders, summoners, and even decision making on when to exit W so they simply never do it because they die when they attempt it, yuumi is a lot like old eve in that way where in order to do good you must use the correct timing because like old eve she simply cannot survive if she does not secure the correct timing. Pretty much every skill i used to be effective at old eve can be used to great success on yuumi which is why i got the hang of her so fast.
> [{quoted}](name=Karn Bishop,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VRk5ZRzl,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-16T23:36:43.479+0000) > > Honestly i think her win ratio reflects ADC that are quite bad at positioning and relied upon anti engage supports to fix their positioning mistakes which is something yuumi cannot do since she is not leona, thresh, brand, janna. So in effect yuumi helps good adc shine and the bad ones to appear even worse. Thats sort of the core problem though. Supports are typically there to both baby the ADC, help keep them safe, and make sure they can position well by providing a bit of pressure in the lane. Yuumi as far as adcs trying to position goes turns it into a 1v2 lane. P.S.: Her ultimate is a joke. At least make it stun instead of root.
: I don't know how Yuumi made release like this.
OP i disagree with you but not for the reasons you may think. I believe on paper using the "what does she bring to the table" it sounds okay i can say on paper she brings: poke, buff, shield and some sustain. The problem with Yuumi is the limitations and degree of the things she brings. Poke? Limited by the adc's footwork on top of typical skillshot limits. Sustain? Requires you to be latched on the target and very underwelming. Shield? Pretty much have to somehow proc it without the enemy getting a trade off on you to me worth it. Buff? Requires latching as well. Ultimately it seems like per playstyle is kinda at odds with each other. she has an passive that gives her a shield when she autos someone but the shield is both too weak and the rest of her kit is dead unless she is attached to something.
: Riot kinda brought this on themselves when the last "support" they released was this {{champion:555}} asshole
> [{quoted}](name=DontHueMeBro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6Ao6OFoG,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2019-05-17T01:58:08.449+0000) > > Riot kinda brought this on themselves when the last "support" they released was this {{champion:555}} asshole Well a strong enchanter is a lot less worse then a strong assassin.
: > [{quoted}](name=Quepha,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jxx8JOh6,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T22:54:26.175+0000) > > It's Zoe who's by the same designer so still pretty justified. oh yeah no wonder then, yasuo and zoe are both asinine to play against so she gets banned as well
> [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jxx8JOh6,comment-id=000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T23:07:32.986+0000) > > oh yeah no wonder then, yasuo and zoe are both asinine to play against so she gets banned as well Nice its like you ignored the subject matter of the thread. YOU OWN TEAM, not the enemy. Also she is rarely ever banned, my teammates ban me out more often then the enemy does.
: How Many Smurfs u see in this picture ?
I think the bigger question is why is there an unranked lvl 55 in there?
123girr (NA)
: What to Build Against True Damage and % Health?
you have to build to one shot him, if he builds defensively it hurts his offensive capabilities and if he isnt destroying ppl quickly then he is pretty useless. building defensive outside of something other than zhonyas or GA is a trap.
: Is Yuumi the squishest champion in the game?
the attach mechanic doesnt make it that bad
MtotheN (NA)
: Riot should be very careful with buffing yummi
Ive seen champions go years just fine and then an unintended way of playing them pops up(example would be yi/taric last year), you couldnt say that for literally any champion in the game not just new ones.
: You're correct in theory, and it's possible that you're right that she doesn't get doubly countered as I currently feel she does. I'll wait a bit before passing judgement on her one trick potential.
> [{quoted}](name=A Latte Trouble,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jr0FRtnG,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T22:45:15.824+0000) > > You're correct in theory, and it's possible that you're right that she doesn't get doubly countered as I currently feel she does. I'll wait a bit before passing judgement on her one trick potential. I do agree with you that people are not using her to her full potential especially when it comes to her passive.
: > [{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jxx8JOh6,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:39:07.103+0000) > > Mean people ban me out even when i declare intent :( is your pick intent by chance yasuo, because I always ban him regardless if someone on my team wants him
> [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jxx8JOh6,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-05-16T22:40:58.375+0000) > > is your pick intent by chance yasuo, because I always ban him regardless if someone on my team wants him It is not but here's a hint, look at my icon.
: I 100% hear what you're saying and I partially agree. I mean, ANY champion CAN be one tricked. The issue I have with one tricking Yuumi is that her counters counter her harder than any other support. Sona, for example, is countered by Blitz pretty hard because of how squishy she is, but not so hard that I wouldn't pick Sona into a blitz if I one tricked Sona. Yuumi is doubly countered by hard engage champions due to the nature of her kit. If blitz hooks her ADC while she's attached, blitz just got 2 hooks for the price of one. In addition, shes relying on her ADC's ability to dodge hooks and play smart as opposed to Sona who is relying on her own ability. I appreciate your input and I think we're mostly on the same page as far as one tricking her goes, I'm just personally of the opinion that she's better as a pocket pick.
> [{quoted}](name=A Latte Trouble,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jr0FRtnG,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-16T22:05:03.130+0000) > > I 100% hear what you're saying and I partially agree. I mean, ANY champion CAN be one tricked. > The issue I have with one tricking Yuumi is that her counters counter her harder than any other support. Sona, for example, is countered by Blitz pretty hard because of how squishy she is, but not so hard that I wouldn't pick Sona into a blitz if I one tricked Sona. Yuumi is doubly countered by hard engage champions due to the nature of her kit. If blitz hooks her ADC while she's attached, blitz just got 2 hooks for the price of one. > In addition, shes relying on her ADC's ability to dodge hooks and play smart as opposed to Sona who is relying on her own ability. > I appreciate your input and I think we're mostly on the same page as far as one tricking her goes, I'm just personally of the opinion that she's better as a pocket pick. Well using the blitz example if you see the hook coming you detach before the hook, don't think hooks make him a harder counter , not to mention if the adc is like ezreal for example hooks shouldnt matter anyways. if its something immobile like ash you can even take the hook, detach proc another shield, relink and heal up. blitz hooks are not gonna 1 shot you and certainly not gonna one shot you, if you think your adc is gonna get hooked you detach. One the flip side if blitz misses a hook you can punish him especially hard with yuumi.
: Yuumi Is Not Weak, This Is What Yuumi Newbies Are Doing Wrong
Agree with everything but the pocket pick statement purely because that can apply to every champion but S tier ones. Also i think its far too early for statements like "she is not designed to be one tricked".
BayoNX19 (NA)
: If you don't declare intent and someone bans the champion you "wanted", you're the only one at fault
Jamlance (NA)
: Irelia has low win rate
Irelia is a champion that is EXTREMELY easy to punish if you do not know how to play her. There is a three step process when it comes to her. You need to know her mechanics, you need to know how to deal with her matchups, and you need to know her power spikes. If you are weak in any of those categories you will get stomped on her plain and simple. She will prolly lose to the very top tier top laners but thats just because those top laners are over tuned and not because she is weak.
Jamlance (NA)
: True that extremely good players can play Irelia very well. But you know most people like you and I do not play league 24/7 and cannot play like pros. They don't have to buff Irelia, they can nerf other champs, I don't really mind. As long as it makes the game more forgiving.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamlance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ENEqKors,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-16T12:43:31.150+0000) > > True that extremely good players can play Irelia very well. But you know most people like you and I do not play league 24/7 and cannot play like pros. They don't have to buff Irelia, they can nerf other champs, I don't really mind. As long as it makes the game more forgiving. Her WR is appropriate to her difficulty, if anything its slightly higher.
Critty92 (EUNE)
: Why are you people crying about Yuumi?
Her gameplay is based entirely on the role supports are suppose to baby. That much is true but if their mechanics are bad it really shows.
Jamlance (NA)
: Irelia has low win rate
Irelia has a Delta of 60% WR meaning people who know how to play her are doing well, i wouldnt hold my breath if you are expecting buffs to her
FSRER (EUNE)
: Get Yummi out of my game!
I understand soloq but why are ppl banning their teammates out in normals as well, makes no sense to me thats where she SHOULD be played right now.
iiGazeii (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E1AVb2Ve,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-16T07:13:22.292+0000) > > Its the other way around, theres so much cc that mobile champs feel required to effectively handle it. That's... not how it works. Mobile champs are countered by CC. Sure, they can avoid skillshots, but a mobility tool used to avoid CC is a tool that wasn't used to engage. Mobile champs are required because they are left unchecked by nonexistent tanks and there's no way to itemize against them as a squishy champion.
> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E1AVb2Ve,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T08:24:42.648+0000) > > That's... not how it works. Mobile champs are countered by CC. Sure, they can avoid skillshots, but a mobility tool used to avoid CC is a tool that wasn't used to engage. Mobile champs are required because they are left unchecked by nonexistent tanks and there's no way to itemize against them as a squishy champion. Have you been playing under a rock, theres too many things in the game that counters hard cc for mobile champions to care about it. If its point and click then they will just qss it and good luck hitting mobile champions with skillshots. Case and point, its hard to hit anyone with 3 hits of yuumi's ult because they just move out of it unless they are immobile.
: Yuumi's Q feels like it should be a small AOE.
To be honest with you the champion is kinda a hot mess. I would like the Q's range for starters to be dictated at the time of the cast instead of where the person she is latched onto is. I think that would make the Q much much better.
rujitra (NA)
: Just as the phrase "sexist" no longer refers only to discrimination based on gender, the word "racist" includes forms of cultural discrimination now as well.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7pNB1nR3,comment-id=000200030000,timestamp=2019-05-16T09:20:32.632+0000) > > Just as the phrase "sexist" no longer refers only to discrimination based on gender, the word "racist" includes forms of cultural discrimination now as well. what sexist still refers to only discriminating based on gender, that hasn't changed at all.
: ask a third opinion see what they think also. she can be played so many different builds instead of a plain healer. some champs cant do that or while ALL champs cant give up boots (cass dont count)
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I30A8URf,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T08:41:11.561+0000) > > ask a third opinion see what they think also. she can be played so many different builds instead of a plain healer. some champs cant do that or while ALL champs cant give up boots (cass dont count) The key is how effectively can she be played in those roles and do they make up for her shortcomings. For example if she goes to a solo lane, her W is a dead ability and her Q becomes the worst projectile in the game. She has no wave clear so she will just get shoved under tower while her laner will just be roaming constantly putting other lanes behind. Her R is weak with weak scaling. Lets say you decide "okay ill go AD Yuumi" guess who would do it better? {{champion:117}} I mean people already stopped banning/picking the champion and she's barely been out a day and a half.
rujitra (NA)
: It doesn't take time. If it takes you time to be a decent person and say the thing you mean to say, then you need to practice speaking more. "Could you speak English?" "I can't understand you." "What does that mean?" Took me 5 seconds to come up with all those. It's not "hard". You don't have to conjure anything. Simple English words.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7pNB1nR3,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-05-16T08:12:37.918+0000) > > It doesn't take time. If it takes you time to be a decent person and say the thing you mean to say, then you need to practice speaking more. > > "Could you speak English?" > > "I can't understand you." > > "What does that mean?" > > Took me 5 seconds to come up with all those. It's not "hard". You don't have to conjure anything. Simple English words. No one speaks like this. how is this an argument. Edit: I also want to point your blatant contradiction . You said you should demand someone speak a certain language(which lets be clear, the OP did not do that) and then recommend saying "Could you speak English?" which is much closer to a demand than anything the OP has said.
Show more

Malix Farwin

Level 238 (NA)
Lifetime Upvotes
Create a Discussion