: From one support to another; how do y'all keep your cool?
For me, it's all about understanding their point of view. If they die to something ridiculous and you can tell while they're flaming they have no idea what they're talking about, I realize it's not even worth wasting my time. I usually just mute them and carry on. If something happens and I truly make a mistake along the way, I try and own it. It's super hard when it's an honest mistake and then your ADC just snap flames, but if you can keep your cool and just reply in a positive way, you can usually avoid further typing. That's my biggest hatred is when you see your ADC just standing still and you know they're typing up a storm. I really don't care what you say to me, as long as they're short and simple so you're not typing while we're laning. If it's toxic and not worth replying to, it's a mute. If it's worthy, I try and own it and move on to defuse further typing distractions. If it's just a shitty day in general and I know my patience is thin, I just mute all at the start of every match to avoid any possible nonsense from the get go. Finally, if none of that works and you're just on an unlucky streak of bad games, I just swap roles for a while. I enjoy both top and mid, so swapping into other roles helps me just enjoy the game.
: Activision Blizzard let go ~800 employees despite having higher profits than ever
I mean, Heroes of The Storm was the game that got me into MOBAs. I played it for nearly 5 years and really loved it, but it started going downhill far before they gutted/killed it. It was a surprise to me that it happened out of no where, but I knew it was going to happen eventually. The balance was garbage, the esport was a joke, etc. etc. I feel like this is the same with their other games. I have loved Diablo and WoW for years, but haven't been invested in either for probably 2-3 years now. A lot of people bash the direction both games are going, but for me, it's just that they're now stale after so many years. I don't think either game has done much to reinvent itself, so-to-speak. For me, that's something I need to keep me playing. That's why I have been playing MOBAs for the last 5 or so years. The development cycles usually keep me invested. I guess what I am trying to say is that Blizzard (Activision / whatever) has been trying to coast for the last few years it seems. They're currently riding the OW esport as hard as they possibly can right now, but that game also gets criticized for its lack of content. I don't know. It's sad as a guy who grew up with Blizzard in his life nearly 24/7, but what can you do? It's definitely not the same company anymore. They have been teasing all of these secret new games for years now, but I am not even the least bit excited for their reveals honestly. They could come and go and I might not even notice.
: try some of the simpler champions nunu for instance used to have a lot less but they amped up his playstyle anivia is a treat. She's fairly simple but her ability to bait the opponent, clear waves and pair her kit with just about any other champion for a wombo-combo makes her a potent mage Shaco is another fun pick. He's a lot harder to learn but if you do learn him, even veterans say there's nothing better than causing your opponents to panic when you appear out of nowhere XD try off-meta strategies and builds as well, though it's best if the kits at least have SOME level of synergy with builds. Bard mid can be a thing. He can even go AD {{champion:36}} (dr mundo): simple, fun, cleaver, durable, cleaver, rush in like a mad man, cleaver, what was I doing again, oh right, throwing a cleaver! {{champion:126}} : fun and effective, though he's bit of a newer champion {{champion:26}} : even better than shaco, playing dodge-bomb with enemies is just hilarious. He only has one offensive ability, but it is easy to use and his kit has plenty of safety measures without being overbear. I remember one time, there was this horribly annoying zilean...he built guardian angel, zhonya and the bulkiest AP build he could while shoving waves. He spammed laugh as he ran away while I killed him repeatedly {{champion:4}} : while he's simple, if you learn how to play him, he has some of the best early game power in the game for when it comes to roaming. He can also build almost any way you like, whether bulky, burst assassin, AP mage, AD caster, etc. Also, when it comes to cool, few champions match his character {{champion:83}} : probably one of the most simple kits there is even after his update...simpler than his old one even, but that's not where his power shines. He is a split-pushing machine! fire off his ultimate and join the fray, or save it and turn that fight into an advantage {{champion:48}} : You can make puns about him being a troll and his kit is surprisingly satisfying to use {{champion:43}} : let Q's fly while you run around as fast as you want to. Her kit is fairly flexible as well {{champion:54}} : he may be a tank but he also has an AP diver or assassin build, basically, you get to drop a mountain of damage onto an opponent of your choice {{champion:420}} : she's a newer champ but wow is she satisfying to drive your opponent into a corner. She has every bit of counter-play that she needs (well, a little less on the ult), but, well, I don't even know how to comment for her when she's a champ that punishes her opponents, "I'm not big on Sermons. Broken bones teach better lessons!" {{champion:31}} : om nom nom. While he's less valuable against mobile opponents, he is a damage machine if he has the AP to back it up. You are literally a giant monster that can get even bigger and has a roar that can disable even your opponents summoner spells if they're in range to be hit by it {{champion:74}} : while he's a bit out of favor, when he works he's a blast to play, "NO, not all the rockets!" when he unleashes his rocket swarm! try things and have fun! but make sure that there's at least some sort of synergy for what you do try
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WhAUhE6Q,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-13T07:41:18.352+0000) > > try some of the simpler champions > > nunu for instance used to have a lot less but they amped up his playstyle > > anivia is a treat. She's fairly simple but her ability to bait the opponent, clear waves and pair her kit with just about any other champion for a wombo-combo makes her a potent mage > > Shaco is another fun pick. He's a lot harder to learn but if you do learn him, even veterans say there's nothing better than causing your opponents to panic when you appear out of nowhere XD > > > try off-meta strategies and builds as well, though it's best if the kits at least have SOME level of synergy with builds. Bard mid can be a thing. He can even go AD > > {{champion:36}} (dr mundo): simple, fun, cleaver, durable, cleaver, rush in like a mad man, cleaver, what was I doing again, oh right, throwing a cleaver! > > {{champion:126}} : fun and effective, though he's bit of a newer champion > > {{champion:26}} : even better than shaco, playing dodge-bomb with enemies is just hilarious. He only has one offensive ability, but it is easy to use and his kit has plenty of safety measures without being overbear. I remember one time, there was this horribly annoying zilean...he built guardian angel, zhonya and the bulkiest AP build he could while shoving waves. He spammed laugh as he ran away while I killed him repeatedly > > {{champion:4}} : while he's simple, if you learn how to play him, he has some of the best early game power in the game for when it comes to roaming. He can also build almost any way you like, whether bulky, burst assassin, AP mage, AD caster, etc. Also, when it comes to cool, few champions match his character > > {{champion:83}} : probably one of the most simple kits there is even after his update...simpler than his old one even, but that's not where his power shines. He is a split-pushing machine! fire off his ultimate and join the fray, or save it and turn that fight into an advantage > > {{champion:48}} : You can make puns about him being a troll and his kit is surprisingly satisfying to use > > {{champion:43}} : let Q's fly while you run around as fast as you want to. Her kit is fairly flexible as well > > {{champion:54}} : he may be a tank but he also has an AP diver or assassin build, basically, you get to drop a mountain of damage onto an opponent of your choice > > {{champion:420}} : she's a newer champ but wow is she satisfying to drive your opponent into a corner. She has every bit of counter-play that she needs (well, a little less on the ult), but, well, I don't even know how to comment for her when she's a champ that punishes her opponents, "I'm not big on Sermons. Broken bones teach better lessons!" > > {{champion:31}} : om nom nom. While he's less valuable against mobile opponents, he is a damage machine if he has the AP to back it up. You are literally a giant monster that can get even bigger and has a roar that can disable even your opponents summoner spells if they're in range to be hit by it > > {{champion:74}} : while he's a bit out of favor, when he works he's a blast to play, "NO, not all the rockets!" when he unleashes his rocket swarm! > > try things and have fun! but make sure that there's at least some sort of synergy for what you do try Damn, thanks for the detailed response. I am going to bookmark this post so that I can refer to it later when I am trying new champs.
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Maghda (NA)
: Why did Lissandra receive nerfs? She needs buffs my friends..
Even when I am having an awful game, I can be a huge factor in the mid-late game simply by being a CC whore. If I have a good early game and get ahead, then mid-late game are that much better. The passive alone can snowball a team fight, even when things are looking dire.
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: If I'm going to be chastised for lane/role swapping in ranked
I mean, playing certain melee champs top vs something like a Teemo is extremely frustrating. I love teammates forever if they notice this and volunteer to swap me lanes. I think it's something that should be commended, not punished.
Yenn (NA)
: It's 2019 and choosing your secondary runes is still some of the worst UX in the world
I didn't realize it worked this way for quite a few games when I was first playing, so I was promising hideous tasks for just little extra mana on Brand because my Mana Flow was absolutely MIA.
: > [{quoted}](name=Khabith,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3EUFMgqV,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-08T17:17:16.669+0000) > > I've noticed I get super mad at the dumbest things. I add teammates into a discord before the game starts, and every so often an girl joins. And like 90% percent of the time they're playing support. I dont know what it is about that, there's nothing wrong with playing support as a girl, but they always have that high pitched anime voice (that sounds forced) to match up with it. And then you always see them posting something on the boards, or on Reddit, and they're always like "I love Janna to death". > > Another one, is when I see someone maining something I personally despise, like having 5000 games on pantheon or something, its like come'on man. > > Something that I hateeeeeee, is when someone mains something, but you put the numbers together and you figure out they started maining it, when it was the most broken. It's like a zoe main, who started maining her pre-nerfs and they're always vouching for zoe, and it's like, oh, so this is the mf who was one shotting me, huh. > > And trust me, I dont want to feel these things, but they always pop up into my mind, and I just can't stop the waves, of just disgust mixed in with hatred, is this just me? Your hatred towards females ingame is just suppressed anger from being rejected by females irl.
> [{quoted}](name=DNGSkitty RAWR,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3EUFMgqV,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-02-08T19:04:57.743+0000) > > Your hatred towards females ingame is just suppressed anger from being rejected by females irl. Damn....
: Lost to Teemo 0/7
Teemo is the bane of my existence. I often wake up in a cold sweat after having night terrors of the little bastard. I've started tip-toeing around my house to avoid stepping on toxic shrooms. I need therapy.
: I feel like i love this game until i actually play it
I just lost 5 games in a row where all 4 of my teammates were 0/3/0 within the first 6 minutes. Literally 12 kills within 6 minutes for the enemy team - 2 kills per minute. I don't care what role you're playing, it's extremely hard to win a game when the announcer is out of breath 30 seconds in from calling out, "an ally has been slain!" The thing is, I went on a pretty solid win-streak earlier today. They were all hard-fought, back-and-forth games, though. We even won a 4v5 where our jungle AFKd out before level 5. Feels like you have to work incredibly hard for a win, but when the losses start coming in droves, it's painfully obvious how lop-sided the matchmaking is. I am still fairly new to the game, so I don't really care about winning or losing. I just want those balanced matches, where either team can win at any moment. The game is really, really enjoyable when the matches are like that, even if it ends in a loss. I just don't want teammates that can't chill and farm under their towers once in a while.
: Little brother saw a LoL Ad
I've been playing the other MOBAs (mostly Heroes) for the last 4-5 years and I never really saw any LoL adds. Once I started playing a few weeks ago, LoL adds are everywhere. Seems like a backwards marketing scheme, haha.
: How many times have you slammed your keyboard playing league?
I don't abuse my equipment, but I do face-palm and sigh a lot. Especially with leavers/quitters. I can't get into a game today without someone either DCing or rage-quitting for no reason. I have only been playing a few weeks, but that seems to be the typical League game.
: Steps on when to blame your jungler in bronze.
It's funny how it always has to be an instant blame/flame/game the second something goes wrong, especially in the solo lanes. I can't tell you how many games were complete wastes of time the last few days due to people rage-quitting 3 seconds in because they did something stupid and expected someone on their team to bail them out from across the map. I just don't understand the concept of being careless and feeding early, then just taking the attitude of quitting and going AFK in the shop? It's like, we still have a good 30-40 minutes of game time left, just adjust...
: Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Some guy slipped and fell while walking home, got knocked out, and froze to death. Be safe guys, it's dangerous.
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cHfhwE6e,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-31T12:54:39.566+0000) > > Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Some guy slipped and fell while walking home, got knocked out, and froze to death. Be safe guys, it's dangerous. That's like something out of a movie. I don't mean to make light of something so tragic, but my god...
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Fhizzix (NA)
: New to LoL: Confessions of a HotS Addict
I am glad you're having a good starting experience here. As someone in your same position (5,000+ HoTS games/master level player), the LoL transition has been pretty challenging to say the least. My mechanics/positioning are fine, because that's like riding a bike. My lack of roster knowledge is really hurting me. I don't know the champs well enough to feel confident in team fights yet. I don't know power spikes, so I get caught off guard quite often. My biggest problem so far is just quitters and smurfs. You don't realize just how good you have it when you're already skilled/familiar with a game. I encountered plenty of smurfs in HoTS, but I was a capable/confident player, so it never really mattered. I always felt ready for whatever the game threw at me. In League, smurfs are literally just ruining games for me. It's painfully obvious when someone is on a smurf and then it triggers your entire time and you soon have people going AFK in the shop. What's worse is when your team starts flaming each other, which usually results in someone basically holding you hostage, so to speak. The FF gets called, but that one player just trolls and declines because they're angry that we're getting smurfed and the team turned toxic on each other. Then you're stuck waiting 10 or 15 minutes longer for the game to end. As far as the game play and e-sports go, I truly enjoy LoL much more than I ever did HoTS. Both communities are pretty dog shit, but the fact that smurfs can impact the game SO much harder in LoL makes for some really bad experiences for a new player. The irony is that just constantly queuing up and playing vs smurfs is actually the best way to get better, because then the competition is always good. I just don't know if I have the patience to stick it out long enough to get as confident in LoL as I was in HoTS. I have already resorted to /mute all in 90% of my matches, which is unfortunate. EDIT - By the way, I wasn't trying to bring negativity to a positive thread. Just sharing my own personal experiences/thoughts so far as someone very similar to the OP.
: This Game is Awful For New Players
What about me? I started playing League for the very first time about two weeks ago. My account level is around 22. I have people going AFK in the shop after literally two minutes because the jungle didn't gank their lane, or because they didn't have vision/flash and decided it'd be the perfect time to shove a tower and got roamed on. I'm less than 100 games in and I've resorted to /mute all at the start of every game already. Granted, I played at the master level in Heroes, but LoL is such a different game, I highly doubt my MOBA experience has somehow notified the system that I should be bumped out of 'new players' and into the 'smurfing' queue. /Mute all works for a toxic chat, but unfortunately there is no remedy for someone going AFK in the shop two minutes in, leaving you to 4-5 the rest of the game. It's kind of horrendous honestly.
: Because bots are worse then a DC. It would be better to not have the suicidal sack of gold and Meijai's stacks that also steals some farm.
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=w5JJUAdX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-27T23:11:58.054+0000) > > Because bots are worse then a DC. It would be better to not have the suicidal sack of gold and Meijai's stacks that also steals some farm. True, I didn't think about the basically free gold for the enemy team if a bot enters the game. The real issue is just the toxic community, I guess. In HoTS, it was a horrible idea to play on the weekends, due to the low quality of games and the horrid community you'd experience. Is League just the same way? I would say 80-90% of my games this weekend have just been awful, which is why I even noticed the bot/leaver situation in the first place. It's been a rough go.
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Kaisrra (NA)
: The client is absolutely abysmal
Sometimes my Collections tab won't load properly, but that's really the only issues I have had so far. I will say this, as someone who is new to the game (and really enjoying it thus far), the client is what kept me from sticking with it the few times I downloaded the game in that past. I don't mind how it looks/navigates now, but it came off as really old and dated to someone who was dipping their toe in and out of the game. I am sure I wasn't the only one.
: New to League, but not MOBAs.
Thanks for all the feedback everyone, it's much appreciated. I am slowly getting the hang of it. Having 5,000+ games played in HoTS has given me a lot to work with right out of the gates here. The biggest difference is vision and the lane-phase. Neither are as important in HoTS as they are here. I like their importance. It makes it feel like a game of give and take, rather than just spread-out chaos that is HoTS. Once I was able to kind of compare Baron/Dragons to the different objectives in HoTS, the flow of the game started making more sense to me. I really do enjoy the game so far. I am not sure if I will main support once I am fully practiced and prepared for every game I join, but right now I think it's a fun role. I also appreciate all of the warnings about the possibility of toxic players. Trust me, I am already well armored in that area. HoTS was just as toxic, but you had less opportunity to carry in that game. So even if the game was still winnable, toxic players literally just cost you the game no matter what you did. Here you at least have a chance to take control yourself (seemingly depending on your champ) and carry. As I said, my only regret is not picking this game up earlier. I just wish I didn't feel so behind on the roster. I just got out of a game vs a Tristana (as Lux) and her mobility caught me completely off-guard and it was rough to adapt. Still clawed out that W, though. ;)
: I know there's going to be people who will tell you not to buy champions with RP for various reasons, one is that you can get them with Blue Essence. There is a point there. League is a Moba and if player spends time with it, they are going to be able to unlock the champions eventually and when you have the ones you want, then BE won't have a use outside the semi-annual BE store. However, I do not know what your time is worth, so if you want to buy them, here's how you can get champions. First there is the "New Player Pack", that offers 5 champions for about $5, as well as a champion skin for one of them, an icon, and a ward skin. Since you are looking to buy champions with money, you'll probably be interested because the bundle costs less than the RP for an individual champion in it. The choice of the champions in it for new players (e.g. Lee-sin) is a different topic. There's a weekly champion rotation where you can play 14 different champions to try them out and there is also a champion sales rotation where you can get an individual champion for 50% off the regular price. There's two permanent bundles left, the "Champions Bundle" and the "Digital Collector's Bundle" that have 20 champions and an exclusive skin. They are also flexibly priced, so if you buy a champion that is in the bundle, the cost is reduced. So there's no worry about waste there. Note: The discount goes down a bit if you buy champions from it, but that also because you are not buying a very low BE cost champion with money. There's also the "Your Shop" feature which comes about occasionally. It gives personalized discounts on skins based on what you play. If there's a similar champion that you don't own, it can give a discount on both the champion and a skin for him. >Can you only farm Blue Essence from disenchanting/missions, or do you get some for winning games? I haven't really been paying attention to currency post-game, just stats and trying to learn what went right/wrong in that particular game. From the games you play, win or loss, you get experience. You get Blue Essence from your First Win of the Day, from missions, and from leveling. After the introductory 30 levels, your capsules contain Champion Shards and in some additional BE for added value. The shards can be disenchanted for BE or used to unlock that specific champion at a discounted amount.
> [{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6fZvf81W,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-23T16:05:29.320+0000) > > I know there's going to be people who will tell you not buy champions with RP for various reasons, one is that you can get them with Blue Essence. There is a point there. League is a Moba and if player spends time with it, they are going to be able to unlock all the champions eventually and then BE won't have a use outside the semi-annual BE store. However, I do not know what your time is worth, so if you want to buy them, here's how you can get champions. > > First there is the "New Player Pack", that offers 5 champions for about $5, as well as a champion skin for one of them, an icon, and a ward skin. Since you are looking to buy champions with money, you'll probably be interested because the bundle costs less than the RP for an individual champion in it. The choice of the champions in it for new players (e.g. Lee-sin) is a different topic. > > There's a weekly champion rotation where you can play 14 different champions to try them out and there is also a champion sales rotation where you can get an individual champion for 50% off the regular price. > > There's two permanent bundles left, the "Champions Bundle" and the "Digital Collector's Bundle" that have 20 champions and an exclusive skin. They are also flexibly priced, so if you buy a champion that is in the bundle, the cost is reduced. So there's no worry about waste there > Note: The discount goes down a bit if you buy champions from it, but that also because you are not buying a very low BE cost champion with money so. > > There's also the "Your Shop" feature which comes about occasionally. It gives personalized discounts on skins based on what you play. If there's a similar champion that you don't own, it can give a discount on both the champion and a skin for him. > > You get Blue Essence from your First Win of the Day, from missions, and from leveling. After the introductory 30 levels, your capsules contain Champion Shards and in some additional BE for added value. The shards can be disenchanted for BE or used to unlock that specific champion at a discounted amount. Thanks for taking the time to give me this very detailed response, I really appreciate it. How many champs per role would you recommend learning for a new player? As I said, mechanics aren't the issue for me personally. I feel pretty confident in that area of the game. My biggest weakness so far is just learning what each champ does. Whenever I get into a game that has champs I haven't seen yet, it makes me feel incredibly vulnerable, because I just don't know what to expect, especially if they're in my lane. That's mostly why I want to fill out my roster. Even if I don't end up liking a certain kit, playing a champ well enough to understand what they're all about is still very valuable.
: Welcome to League! Ignore the incoming posts telling you that coming here was a mistake, or that you shouldn't ever spend RP. You enjoy the game how you like. ^^ Generally you want to roam and whatnot when it's past the laning phase, when you've destroyed first bot turret, and when your lane's pushing. Even during laning though, finding moments to go out and deep ward isn't a bad idea as long as you're confident in your map awareness. To contradict myself a little though, I wouldn't spend RP on champions. It was easier to earn them before, purposefully made more difficult due to Riot's greedy marketing tactics. Getting all of them now is next to impossible for new players unless they spend an unreasonable chunk of money. I'd personally save your RP for skins that you want, not for champions. It's smarter to play the ones on rotation and save for the ones you really like, since BE exponentially takes longer to earn over time.
> [{quoted}](name=PowerBurger,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6fZvf81W,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-23T14:54:20.084+0000) > > Welcome to League! Ignore the incoming posts telling you that coming here was a mistake, or that you shouldn't ever spend RP, you enjoy the game how you like. ^^ > > Generally you want to roam and whatnot when it's past the laning phase, when you've destroyed first bot turret, and when your lane's pushing. Even during laning though, finding moments to go out and deep ward isn't a bad idea as long as you're confident in your map awareness. > > To contradict myself a little though, I wouldn't spend RP on champions. It was easier to earn them before, purposefully made more difficult due to Riot's greedy marketing tactics. Getting all of them now is next to impossible for new players unless they spend an unreasonable chunk of money. I'd personally save your RP for skins that you want, not for champions. It's smarter to play the ones on rotation and save for the ones you really like, since BE exponentially takes longer to earn over time. Hey, thanks for the friendly response. Can you only farm Blue Essence from disenchanting/missions, or do you get some for winning games? I haven't really been paying attention to currency post-game, just stats and trying to learn what went right/wrong in that particular game.
: > The next thing I need to learn is when to start roaming? Brand isn't exactly the most "roamable" Support there is, primarily due to his lack of mobility as well as supportive spells, and thus, roaming on him isn't as important as other Supports. > My second question is, if you're looking to spend some money on the game (mostly to increase my Champ roster), what is the most efficient way to spend RP? There is a "Beginner's Bundle" in the shop that gives you a nice amount of champions, plus a free skin. I would advise against using real money on the game though. The Blue Essence grind to unlock new content feels ***way*** more rewarding than just getting there immediately through microtransactions. Grinding Blue Essence to unlock new content gives incentive to keep playing the game. The moment you have all of the champions (or at least a great portion of them), the only incentive left to play the game is to grind Ranked, which feels awful.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6fZvf81W,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-23T14:50:19.475+0000) > > Brand isn't exactly the most "roamable" Support there is, primarily due to his lack of mobility as well as supportive spells, and thus, roaming on him isn't as important as other Supports. > > There is a "Beginner's Bundle" in the shop that gives you a nice amount of champions, plus a free skin. > > I would advise against using real money on the game though. The Blue Essence grind to unlock new content feels ***way*** more rewarding than just getting there immediately through microtransactions. > > Grinding Blue Essence to unlock new content gives incentive to keep playing the game. The moment you have all of the champions (or at least a great portion of them), the only incentive left to play the game is to grind Ranked, which feels awful. That's kind of what I was thinking with Brand so far, it just takes too long to travel unless your whole team is heading in the same direction. Once I start learning more mobile champs, then when is the best time to roam? I know that's probably a pretty situational question, but are there any definite answers?
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