Abibyama (EUW)
: And people wonder why rioters doesn’t bother to read the boards
> [{quoted}](name=Abibyama,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5uNxEQIp,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-01-08T11:25:06.816+0000) > > And people wonder why rioter doesn’t bother to read the boards Too busy jacking off adc and tank mains in the corner .
: In that case i think you just need to git gud and pull your weight.
> [{quoted}](name=JackMcSnipeyz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5uNxEQIp,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-01-08T08:22:38.844+0000) > > In that case i think you just need to git gud and pull your weight. but you're plat 2 telling others to get good :/
KazKaz (OCE)
: Trust me, when you lane against a Maokai/Ornn as any bruiser and you actually get past laning phase you'll hate your life even more than you did IN laning phase.
> [{quoted}](name=Lovesick,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T8ZgnlFd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-08T07:57:56.809+0000) > > Trust me, when you lane against a Maokai/Ornn as any bruiser and you actually get past laning phase you'll hate your life even more than you did IN laning phase. i do hate my life even then. ive played against only tanks and ranged champs for the past 2 months. i hate this lane so much. its become so fucking unbearable. ive only been playing it for 6 years. i hate what riot has done.
Rioter Comments
: Complains about needing his team to fight vayne because vayne is OP 》 proceeds to mention how enemy vayne gets healed and peeled by HER team. Almost like you shouldnt 1v2 vayne (who is already one of the strongest duelists in the game).
> [{quoted}](name=JackMcSnipeyz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5uNxEQIp,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-01-08T07:28:03.941+0000) > > Complains about needing his team to fight vayne because vayne is OP 》 proceeds to mention how enemy vayne gets healed and peeled by HER team. > Almost like you shouldnt 1v2 vayne (who is already one of the strongest duelists in the game). 1v2? u mean 5v5. any adc with a support is disgusting. any. meta adc riot is a joke.
: You can 1-shot the ever living shit out of Vayne if you build Riven right. Some champs can’t do shit against Vayne, riven is not one of them. Hell, just ghostblade at her and she’s forced to condemn to not eat W cc (stun from W usually means death), use your 4 dashes to easily close the distance (ult increase dash range). You’ll probably kill her within your CC duration EASILY.
> [{quoted}](name=Disembark,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5uNxEQIp,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-01-08T06:52:25.875+0000) > > You can 1-shot the ever living shit out of Vayne if you build Riven right. > > > Some champs can’t do shit against Vayne, riven is not one of them. Hell, just ghostblade at her and she’s forced to condemn to not eat W cc (stun from W usually means death), use your 4 dashes to easily close the distance (ult increase dash range). > > You’ll probably kill her within your CC duration EASILY. good luck building lethality against a vayne in a tank top meta every game. good luck even getting out of laning phase with a duskblade without getting dove 50 times in a row by the tank and his jungler. good luck with that. a decent vayne gets tabis asks her support to ride her as usual and ur done for. good luck even getting near the adc in any 5v5 teamfight as a melee fighter in this fucking game.
: Wtf world are you living in when a vayne crit Q is only doing 1/4 of your hp. Try 3/4 fam.
> [{quoted}](name=LegitBusinessman,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5uNxEQIp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-08T05:32:57.291+0000) > > Wtf world are you living in when a vayne crit Q is only doing 1/4 of your hp. Try 3/4 fam. i have 2.6k hp as riven in order to do 1/6th of my damage capabilities in teamfights before getting locked up or 3 shot so it will take 1 auto to do 1/4 from vayne. i just played against it. trust me.
Rioter Comments
LennyVV (NA)
: What are some good top laners that have 'staying power'?
every single fuckign tank in this game that can use grasp is strong as fuck.
Barkley (NA)
: Petition to remove all towers and objectives from the game
: > [{quoted}](name=McFatal,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A8V1YMju,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-12-19T08:06:54.715+0000) > > its a video game and u just compared crime and thieves to flaming and inting. > > good one. Someone doesn't get the concept of analogies.
> [{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A8V1YMju,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-12-19T08:08:34.133+0000) > > Someone doesn't get the concept of analogies. when u compare real life crimes to mean words on the internet , it isnt an analogy. osama bin laden is like any other arab, they have beards too. ? riots behavior team has promised a better punishment system for inters and trolls and its been years and yet nothing has been done.
: > gotta make sure flamers are banned before people actually ruining the game! "There's serial killers in the world, so we gotta catch all of them before we worry about thieves or any other kind of criminal!" That's basically what you're saying.
> [{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=A8V1YMju,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-12-19T08:05:04.187+0000) > > "There's serial killers in the world, so we gotta catch all of them before we worry about thieves or any other kind of criminal!" > > That's basically what you're saying. its a video game and u just compared crime and thieves to flaming and inting. good one.
Rioter Comments
: Im so tired of the ADC circle jerk, please give me something else.
> [{quoted}](name=vgamedude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7X89uyZO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-17T23:02:51.932+0000) > > Im so tired of the ADC circle jerk, please give me something else. the day the game gives us something else we will change the circle jerk.
: Whenever I play Top Lane I feel I can't push my advantage even when ahead
finally shoved the full tank ornn out of lane after 15 combos, maybe i can take the tower now! he rushes tabis tps back and i no longer get him out of lane in any circumstance ever. me getting first tower as a fighter against a tank is nonexistant if their jungler has half a brain. the second the tank has a completed item you're getting dove for free and there is NOTHING u can do about it.
: Can tanks just get all their %hp damage halved?
wouldnt that make them actually be able to be traded with against fighters? riot wont allow it. tanks have to outclass in every single aspect.
Anags (NA)
: I like how you say Olaf gets shit on by cc in a teamfight lol. And tanks dont even have the best winrates top outside of Sion actually. Honestly the winrates for top are really pretty close together with a lot of champs within a percent or two of 50% winrate. But, sure lets just complain on the forums about what beat us.
> [{quoted}](name=Anags,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=00020000000100000001,timestamp=2017-12-18T02:31:30.377+0000) > > I like how you say Olaf gets shit on by cc in a teamfight lol. > > And tanks dont even have the best winrates top outside of Sion actually. > > Honestly the winrates for top are really pretty close together with a lot of champs within a percent or two of 50% winrate. > > But, sure lets just complain on the forums about what beat us. Tanks are the strongest top laners right now but sure let’s be ignorant together and disagree
: Looking at OP.GG Ornn actually has a really hard time with a lot of fighters......41% winrate against illaoi, 45% vs GP and 46% against olaf. Maokai is stronger if compared, much fewer weak matchups, but he also has problems with illaoi..... beyond her, hardly anyone else except Swain though, it would seem that maokai is the worst possible matchup for melee damage. Tahm gets wrecked hard by kled, urgot,riven,illaoi,jayce,gankplank,trundle,wukong, yorick and pantheon, like he has a 36% winrate against kled, and 38% against urgot. There you have some^^
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=000200000004,timestamp=2017-12-17T18:46:26.455+0000) > > Looking at OP.GG Ornn actually has a really hard time with a lot of fighters......41% winrate against illaoi, 45% vs GP and 46% against olaf. > > Maokai is stronger if compared, much fewer weak matchups, but he also has problems with illaoi..... beyond her, hardly anyone else except Swain though, it would seem that maokai is the worst possible matchup for melee damage. > > Tahm gets wrecked hard by kled, urgot,riven,illaoi,jayce,gankplank,trundle,wukong, yorick and pantheon, like he has a 36% winrate against kled, and 38% against urgot. > > > > There you have some^^ Tahm absolutely destroys any aa based melee fighter. I’m talking any. Trundle illaoi and yorick all go tanky after one item. Wukong gets absolutely destroyed and urgot jayce and pantheon are ranged with gp
: Bramble's already kinda pathetic after the Armor scaling nerfs it got, plus building HP just does nothing except making Fiora's Vital passive hit harder. Smart Fioras usually go for the dive/poke after Ornn wasted his W, since that's his main source of damage. Second, his edit meant that you're just going to 100% refuse any actual answers given to you, being it correct or not, in order to retain your stubborn ego in this thread.
> [{quoted}](name=BeatzBoyFTW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=00020000000200010000,timestamp=2017-12-17T13:30:20.303+0000) > > Bramble's already kinda pathetic after the Armor scaling nerfs it got, plus building HP just does nothing except making Fiora's Vital passive hit harder. Smart Fioras usually go for the dive/poke after Ornn wasted his W, since that's his main source of damage. > > Second, his edit meant that you're just going to 100% refuse any actual answers given to you, being it correct or not, in order to retain your stubborn ego in this thread. My ego? My ego is what’s being retained ? I’ve played top for 6 years and I don’t need anyone to tell me my ego is what I care about.
Mob Piru (NA)
: lmfao how does riot love catering to adc? Feels like riot hates adc adc in solo q is like the worst thing ever adc in pro play is like being put on a pedestal
> [{quoted}](name=Jerzey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0EspIPB2,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-12-17T12:51:52.194+0000) > > lmfao how does riot love catering to adc? > > Feels like riot hates adc > > adc in solo q is like the worst thing ever > > adc in pro play is like being put on a pedestal Fuck me harder than anything in this mother fucking cruel world
: Fiora Edit: scrolled down, seems like you’re refusing legitimate answers, lmao
> [{quoted}](name=Spank the Fox,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=000200000002,timestamp=2017-12-17T12:45:48.501+0000) > > Fiora > > Edit: scrolled down, seems like you’re refusing legitimate answers, lmao Rush bramble and tabis, fiora is bad. That’s not a legitimate answer bro
: ho do you assasinate an adc called tristana?
U don’t, riot loves catering to adcs and bad players alike so anyone that gets auto filled can pick tristana and do well with barely any punishment :) Insane safety for someone that can crit for 800 haha riot games btw
: if lulu got an update and you could change her w to anything, what would it be?
Something that wasn’t the easiest support point and click ability to stop any melee from playing the game
Rioter Comments
Vesemir (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=McFatal,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-12-17T10:00:09.141+0000) > > name one that doesnt lose to ornn/maokai/tahm kench hehe {{champion:114}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:14}} i can keep going.
> [{quoted}](name=Jesus Desu,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2017-12-17T11:32:30.523+0000) > > {{champion:114}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:14}} i can keep going. gp and sion arent fighters and the rest get shit on in teamfights by any sort of cc. Don’t keep going if you have no idea what you’re talking about to begin with Fiora/Olaf/illaoi get dicked on by any top tier tank
: Wu kong is very good i feel in early trades and can snowball. Darius as well can really bring it to tanks.
> [{quoted}](name=WhatDidWeLearn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-12-17T10:17:14.808+0000) > > Wu kong is very good i feel in early trades and can snowball. Darius as well can really bring it to tanks. both wukong and darius get shit on in teamfights so i dont thin kits worth it.
Penns (EUW)
: nah m8 camille is the new shit lel
> [{quoted}](name=Penns,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-17T10:07:00.878+0000) > > nah m8 camille is the new shit lel take that shit against any tank let me know how it goes.
Penns (EUW)
: {{champion:164}} ez {{sticker:sg-ezreal}}
> [{quoted}](name=Penns,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-12-17T10:03:59.461+0000) > > {{champion:164}} ez {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} ur joking RIGHT?
Penns (EUW)
: "all fighters are dogshit" i cringe every time hehe
> [{quoted}](name=Penns,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-12-17T09:59:45.870+0000) > > "all fighters are dogshit" i cringe every time hehe name one that doesnt lose to ornn/maokai/tahm kench hehe
: That's a support not a top laner. So top laners still suck right now. Feels bad.
> [{quoted}](name=Bronze 6 Yasuo,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZzpbIY4J,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-17T09:53:41.885+0000) > > That's a support not a top laner. So top laners still suck right now. Feels bad. you can take tank tahm top against any fighter and you will torture them on a lower level than pantheon
Rioter Comments
Violett (NA)
: Losing games just feels really bad.
http://prntscr.com/hokyiq losing with these kinds of players just makes me regret even queueing up. why bother? u cant even get out of laning phase without their cancer spreading towards your lane.
: > [{quoted}](name=McFatal,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=000000020000000000000001000000010001,timestamp=2017-12-16T08:02:07.473+0000) > > Counter pick = an entire class > > Nice meme If only you had more mobility. If only your cooldowns were a little lower if only your defenses scaled a little more with your offense stats. Maybe then you wouldn't have to have a passive laning phase against a tank and could just faceroll them like you do your other match ups ;_; Life must be so hard for you.
> [{quoted}](name=MetalGearTeemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=0000000200000000000000010000000100010001,timestamp=2017-12-16T20:56:52.970+0000) > > If only you had more mobility. > If only your cooldowns were a little lower > if only your defenses scaled a little more with your offense stats. > > Maybe then you wouldn't have to have a passive laning phase against a tank and could just faceroll them like you do your other match ups ;_; Life must be so hard for you. u mean the ranged matchups? god ur a tool.
: Why play Wukong when there's a Riven
Why play either when Maokai or ornn are available?
: > [{quoted}](name=McFatal,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=0000000200000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-12-15T21:38:52.468+0000) > > Play riven once against an ornn or malphite and tell me how it goes. > > Till then stay riding the sion main WAAAAAH people aren't allowed to counterpick me. WAAAAAH my character should match up favorably against everything. The mind of the riven main.
> [{quoted}](name=MetalGearTeemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=00000002000000000000000100000001,timestamp=2017-12-16T04:18:06.125+0000) > > WAAAAAH people aren't allowed to counterpick me. > WAAAAAH my character should match up favorably against everything. > > The mind of the riven main. Counter pick = an entire class Nice meme
hoyohai (NA)
: I'm level 14, so I don't know much, but aren't fighters still fairly tanky?
> [{quoted}](name=hoyohai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b4xAEbJE,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2017-12-16T03:22:58.030+0000) > > I'm level 14, so I don't know much, but aren't fighters still fairly tanky? In this current meta , hell no.
: I mean, you're not wrong, but Riven also completely dicks on bruisers super hard which is why I think she needs some kinda of rework to her damage flow so she can hurt tanks instead of her winrate being 45% vs tanks and 55% vs bruisers. Also, Ralanr is one of the smart guys on the boards (yes, I do keep track).
> [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=000000020000000000000004,timestamp=2017-12-16T02:52:16.286+0000) > > I mean, you're not wrong, but Riven also completely dicks on bruisers super hard which is why I think she needs some kinda of rework to her damage flow so she can hurt tanks instead of her winrate being 45% vs tanks and 55% vs bruisers. > > Also, Ralanr is one of the smart guys on the boards (yes, I do keep track). I don’t really see it
: I like to think i'm an alright guy. But when you start insulting my wittle Wiot Sparkles dear, things have gone too fuckin far! You've a very angry boy. You have my pity and my amusement. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
> [{quoted}](name=Battalion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=0000000200000000000000030000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-16T01:25:11.852+0000) > > I like to think i'm an alright guy. But when you start insulting my wittle Wiot Sparkles dear, things have gone too fuckin far! > > You've a very angry boy. You have my pity and my amusement. > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} haHAA as fuck
: Don't feel bad, he said the same about me. "Have you ever played jungle before?" Despite my last 40 games being Jungle 90% of the time. I've been playing since Season 1 off and on. He's a very toxic boy. Just leave him be, Hoyohai, and you do you.
> [{quoted}](name=Battalion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=00000002000000000000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-16T00:22:10.104+0000) > > Don't feel bad, he said the same about me. "Have you ever played jungle before?" Despite my last 40 games being Jungle 90% of the time. I've been playing since Season 1 off and on. He's a very toxic boy. Just leave him be, Hoyohai, and you do you. if u think smite isnt necessary on jungle ur just a flat out troll.
: >positive? >the game is getting worse and worse. Last time I checked the League of Legends playerbase has been steadily growing. If it was truly getting worse then players would be having a mass exodus as they have time and time again with large games. >want me to make up some phony shit for upvotes claiming i love a certain rioter for breathing in the same country as me so KAWAIIIII? {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} Wut? >no. >the game has been heading in a very bad direction and im asking riot to change it. I've only seen hostile demands, not any civilized questions. Everything you "ask" might as well be rhetorical because you've already made up your mind as to the answer and you will not accept anything else. >like i said, if u bring up stats to tell me riven isnt weak inthis meta, im going to ignore u. >every single riven main knows shes weak. >every single top main knows shes not meta. So because you fail to do well with Riven, that means she's weak, even if she is winning 50% of her games? So if I found a Riven main that said Riven is an ok spot overall, besides a few minor tweaks, they wouldn't be a Riven main? I'm fairly confident I see Box Box destroy with Riven top still. I guess you're not Box Box , which is a shame, because the way you're hopping all over the place with these arguements is truly impressive even challenger tier. I was hoping you were his toxic twin or something. Oh well. >every >single >top >main Are we suggesting that **anyone** who mains top will agree with you? That's a bold statement, McFatal, lets see if it works out.
> [{quoted}](name=Battalion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=00000002000000000000000300000000,timestamp=2017-12-16T01:08:19.514+0000) > > Last time I checked the League of Legends playerbase has been steadily growing. If it was truly getting worse then players would be having a mass exodus as they have time and time again with large games. > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} > > Wut? > > I've only seen hostile demands, not any civilized questions. Everything you "ask" might as well be rhetorical because you've already made up your mind as to the answer and you will not accept anything else. > > > So because you fail to do well with Riven, that means she's weak, even if she is winning 50% of her games? So if I found a Riven main that said Riven is an ok spot overall, besides a few minor tweaks, they wouldn't be a Riven main? I'm fairly confident I see Box Box destroy with Riven top still. I guess you're not Box Box , which is a shame, because the way you're hopping all over the place with these arguements is truly impressive even challenger tier. I was hoping you were his toxic twin or something. Oh well. > > Are we suggesting that **anyone** who mains top will agree with you? That's a bold statement, McFatal, lets see if it works out. fail to do well with her? are u just making up shit now? riven is terrible against tanks. period. go check the boards and tell me how many "riot can u please do something about the game state" threads u see. till then please tell the rioter ur sleeping with that ornn could use some additional nerfs.
hoyohai (NA)
: I am not disputing that Riven is bad. I am level 14 so I wouldn't know. I am disputing your claim that Riven OTP's are always correct and tank mains are biased and wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=hoyohai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=0000000200000000000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-16T00:18:35.262+0000) > > I am not disputing that Riven is bad. I am level 14 so I wouldn't know. > > I am disputing your claim that Riven OTP's are always correct and tank mains are biased and wrong. when did i say riven otps were always correct? when did i say tank mains were biased and wrong? are u fucking joking?
: You perhaps one of the most toxic people I have seen on these boards. Not one of your posts in recent memory have been positive. If there has been a positive post, it's one amongst the half dozen negative posts in the last 24 hours. I'm surprised you're able to even to breathe with so much bullshit coming out of your mouth. "Don't use stats as a reply" stats are what matters, feelings are subjective, stastics are objective. When making objective changes to numbers, subjectiviness is a poor standard to go by.
> [{quoted}](name=Battalion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=000000020000000000000003,timestamp=2017-12-16T00:35:51.307+0000) > > You perhaps one of the most toxic people I have seen on these boards. Not one of your posts in recent memory have been positive. If there has been a positive post, it's one amongst the half dozen negative posts in the last 24 hours. I'm surprised you're able to even to breathe with so much bullshit coming out of your mouth. "Don't use stats as a reply" stats are what matters, feelings are subjective, stastics are objective. When making objective changes to numbers, subjectiviness is a poor standard to go by. positive? the game is getting worse and worse. want me to make up some phony shit for upvotes claiming i love a certain rioter for breathing in the same country as me so KAWAIIIII? no. the game has been heading in a very bad direction and im asking riot to change it. like i said, if u bring up stats to tell me riven isnt weak inthis meta, im going to ignore u. every single riven main knows shes weak. every single top main knows shes not meta. every single top main
hoyohai (NA)
: Well, is every tank main biased and wrong?
> [{quoted}](name=hoyohai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=00000002000000000000000200000000,timestamp=2017-12-15T23:43:17.632+0000) > > Well, is every tank main biased and wrong? have u played top by any chance? do u just sit on ur computer talking about shit u dont know? do u turn everything into a philosophical debate?
hoyohai (NA)
: Before, you said the opinions of certain people were invalid since they thought Riven was ok while playing tanks. Can't I say their opinions are invalid since they play Riven? People generally think their own champs are underpowered
> [{quoted}](name=hoyohai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=000000020000000000000002,timestamp=2017-12-15T23:20:34.568+0000) > > Before, you said the opinions of certain people were invalid since they thought Riven was ok while playing tanks. > Can't I say their opinions are invalid since they play Riven? People generally think their own champs are underpowered so every single riven 1 trick is biased and wrong? every single challenger riven 1 trick and player is delusional and every single fighter top are lying? dont make this about some bullshit "opinions do this , opinions do that" right now, fighters need a proper rune and tanks need to be adjusted as well as top lane as a whole getting reworked.
: You mean champions that are made to stack armor beat a melee carry that HAS to snowball the lane to be relevant? Who would have guessed. Also, if I played Riven into those champions I would int. I don't play Riven and she is ONLY viable when you can actually combo. Riven has ALWAYS lost to Malphite in lane because he stacks the shit out of armor and ignores her. This isn't anything new and has been the case except for when Riven is grossly overtuned.
> [{quoted}](name=My Waifu Vanilla,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=00000002000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-12-15T22:54:28.706+0000) > > You mean champions that are made to stack armor beat a melee carry that HAS to snowball the lane to be relevant? Who would have guessed. Also, if I played Riven into those champions I would int. I don't play Riven and she is ONLY viable when you can actually combo. Riven has ALWAYS lost to Malphite in lane because he stacks the shit out of armor and ignores her. This isn't anything new and has been the case except for when Riven is grossly overtuned. are u joking? ive always beat malphite after black cleaver with fervor. ALWAYS. u dodge his e u shit on him in trades. now? u dont beat him EVER u have NO damage even after black cleaver. NOTHING.
: Tell me one reason to reconect to a game
I just had a game in plat where my Varus adc rage quit level 2 after dying once. Upon realizing we didn’t ff at 15 he joined in at 17 minutes while we were 4v5ing and working our asses off to win the game and got the victory That’s why buddy. To prevent people like this varus from getting LP
: > [{quoted}](name=McFatal,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-15T19:47:44.690+0000) > > I’m honest to god tired of having to talk to u. > > > Please PLEASE go onto any riven main above diamonds profile add them and tell me what they think of riven. > > GO ONTO THE 3 challenger riven streams and TELL me what they say. > > > Tanks DICK HER > > ranged champs DICK HER > > Peel F U C K S her > She can’t do SHIT in team fights let alone lane against a tank > > > DO NOT USE STATS AS A REPLY People who main character say character is weak Color me fucking surprised. its almost like they're blind their own advantages because they're a literal onetrick.
> [{quoted}](name=MetalGearTeemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=000000020000000000000001,timestamp=2017-12-15T21:30:27.775+0000) > > People who main character say character is weak > Color me fucking surprised. its almost like they're blind their own advantages because they're a literal onetrick. Play riven once against an ornn or malphite and tell me how it goes. Till then stay riding the sion main
Ralanr (NA)
: Hash was an example that you’re misreading. Thing is, stats do not care about your feelings. They do not care about the teams she gets or about her laning phase. That is why people take cold hard stats on these matters. I can understand you not caring about stats. But the stats show that your complaints are just that, complaints. If her winrate is around 50%, then she’s not weak. Your personal feelings **do not matter here**. If you wanted to argue she’s weak on NA, _you would be right_ and it’d be a much more interesting mystery as to why she’s weak on NA servers. I suggest you take a break from the boards and cool off. You’re only angering yourself.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=00000002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-15T20:04:40.216+0000) > > Hash was an example that you’re misreading. > > Thing is, stats do not care about your feelings. They do not care about the teams she gets or about her laning phase. That is why people take cold hard stats on these matters. > > I can understand you not caring about stats. But the stats show that your complaints are just that, complaints. > > If her winrate is around 50%, then she’s not weak. Your personal feelings **do not matter here**. > > If you wanted to argue she’s weak on NA, _you would be right_ and it’d be a much more interesting mystery as to why she’s weak on NA servers. > > I suggest you take a break from the boards and cool off. You’re only angering yourself. Yea ur just disgusting riven is not NOT weak I’m done talking Enjoy maining sion and acquiring freelo by rushing tabis and glacial shroud
Ralanr (NA)
: Stats are the best way of getting information on a grand scale. Personal experience is open to interpretation and can be tainted by bias. The most fair way to judge something is through stats as numbers are untainted by personal feelings. To put it simply: you shouldn’t care what a high elo player says if there isn’t evidence presented to support it. That’s why Hash isn’t always taken seriously. So if you’re going to say Riven is weak, that’s fine. But if you’re going to argue it as fact without factual evidence then you’re just hot air. So let me ask: where is your information to back up your data? Which site are you using and how up to date is it?
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-15T19:53:44.643+0000) > > Stats are the best way of getting information on a grand scale. > > Personal experience is open to experience and can be tainted by bias. The most fair way to judge something is through stats as numbers are untainted by personal feelings. > > To put it simply: you shouldn’t care what a high elo player says if there isn’t evidence presented to support it. That’s why Hash isn’t always taken seriously. > > So if you’re going to say Riven is weak, that’s fine. But if you’re going to argue it as fact without factual evidence then you’re just hot air. > > So let me ask: where is your information to back up your data? Which site are you using and how up to date is it? Hash isn’t high elo nor does he play riven. I’ve been playing riven for 4 years exclusively and I myself can tell she’s in a bad spot Stats don’t show how awful laning phase is and stats don’t show the teams she’s getting In this specific aspect u saying the challenger riven mains are biased just shows u don’t want to be wrong and would rather just keep being ignorant I get she has 50 percent win rate I don’t care She’s very depressing to play right now
Ralanr (NA)
: Quick question: where are you getting the impression that Riven is weak? I’m checking league of Graphs and her winrate is above 50% in diamond. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/riven/diamond
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5Zou4nK,comment-id=0000000200000000,timestamp=2017-12-15T19:45:05.445+0000) > > Quick question: where are you getting the impression that Riven is weak? > > I’m checking league of Graphs and her winrate is above 50% in diamond. > > https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/riven/diamond I’m honest to god tired of having to talk to u. Please PLEASE go onto any riven main above diamonds profile add them and tell me what they think of riven. GO ONTO THE 3 challenger riven streams and TELL me what they say. Tanks DICK HER ranged champs DICK HER Peel F U C K S her She can’t do SHIT in team fights let alone lane against a tank DO NOT USE STATS AS A REPLY
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