: LeBlanc is officially classified as a burst mage
Nerf the range on E. Up its damage. That's a start to get her off the bullshit playstyle train.
: I guess they say that so if they were late I couldn't complain {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
"90 minutes or it's free? EXCELLENT, HAH HAH HAH HAHA HAHA-" *Ding dong* "Oh, you're early."
: he's gonna Need some {{summoner:1}} for that {{summoner:11}}
Mallecke (NA)
: The entire bee movie but every time they say bee a wasp flies onto your forehead.
Mudrensen (EUNE)
: Nerfplz is bullshit and you are silver.Out of those listed only Gragas can come close to Shen.
You forgot a mention about vorpal blade, a "leave and never return" comment, and how you made a post about this. 2/5, disappointed.
: > [{quoted}](name=FalconPawwwwnch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5BkJ3Gst,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-05-23T22:40:16.856+0000) > > What's her weakness teamfights and more than one cc ability. abilities like {{champion:75}} wither, {{champion:1}} stuns, {{champion:13}} rune prison, {{champion:58}} w are almost impossible to predict. those guys always have the advantage against her, and its easier for them to bait out riposte and then nuke her to oblivion than for her to pull off a successful w. champions like {{champion:92}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:89}} with multiple forms of cc also give her a hard time, since she may be able to parry one of their abilities, but then gets locked down by another and dies. then theres just straight up lane cancer like {{champion:80}} {{champion:23}} as far as general gameplay counters go, protecting vitals by hiding them inside walls, and resetting unfavcourable vitals works aswell. buying slow items to kite out of her ult, aswell as heal debuffs and items like {{item:3193}} and {{item:3053}} that absorb part of her damage. it really depends on who youre playing.
So you're telling me you need specific team comps with specific champions to deal with one champion? I understand counterpicking and counter-strategizing, but this isn't the f*cking LCS.
: ...Honestly, I'd rather just let Olaf murder the enemy's tank while the assassin mid/jungle murders the carry. Olaf's E does massive true damage, enough that tanks can't shrug it off like they can with other sources of flat true damage. And it scales. And resets the cooldown with his auto-attacks so he easily gets multiple E's off in a fight. Really, as long as someone else on the team can pick off the ADC, then Olaf makes a great tank-shredder.
The problem is that Vanguards would have trouble with Olaf. Wardens can protect their ADCs and render his efforts in vain.
: Hector! https://i.imgur.com/1JdLiGS_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
: because she is le grand DOOLIST duede she should be able to out-fight any and every1 haha it's in her THEME bruh haha dude
Rioter Comments
: I mean you have the connections don't you Mr. Rioter XD I imagine you can at least tell someone who can pitch it?
Him and Kindlejack still have bad blood over that one Mario Party incident involving the star theft. It's unlikely WAAARGHbobo can help us with this one.
: Orianna needs nerfs.
Agreed. #Clot the Bot
Lyseth (NA)
: Anything melee really, but some notably good ones against him from what I've played is the following: {{champion:75}} {{champion:83}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:78}}
You forgot Shen. A decent Shen can ruin Yasuo's day.
: K so this did end up getting upvoted close to the top and that's dumb. This shit needs to go. It's one thing to have a problem with Cait and if I spent the time to make valid points, it'd likely get ignored or randomly downvoted. But make my title click bait and make my post more comedy than constructive criticism without actually saying anything, that's the best chance you have at getting a post read and that's disturbing. This is supposed to be riots official site for discussing balance. Yet this wannabe Reddit style joke of a cesspool doesn't enable that at all because it's all about votes so people can feel good about what they say. It requires no investment into an actual discussion to steer the direction of a topic here. These dumbass nested comments and sort by vote need to go. Maybe then this place can actually get viable feedback that's well thought out and isn't click bait.
: I don't see a Shen skin in the leak... are you referring to the chromas he got recently? {{champion:69}} got chromas in mid/late 2015 and then mymu updated mid 2016. -------------- Your comment just makes me sad because it means Shenpai will probably be stuck dragging that rock for another 2 years. {{item:3073}} <--quickcharge fully stacked.
Quite the opposite. I meant Shen didn't get a skin this time as well, so what's the reasoning behind that? Also, yeah, a ~~FOOLISH~~ ninja warrior wielding a spirit sword would have a giant one behind him.
: > [{quoted}](name=Melledoneus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WR2WEKwr,comment-id=00040006,timestamp=2017-05-25T00:11:02.656+0000) > > Please change your name. at least you said please > [{quoted}](name=Melledoneus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WR2WEKwr,comment-id=00040006,timestamp=2017-05-25T00:11:02.656+0000) > > You&#x27;re impersonating a good friend of mine i didn't do jackshit i didn't pretend to be MM, i changed my name to duo with him without people bothering us and he knows that beside everyone knows who i am, i'm just on this smurf until my forum ban ends because i insulted fuffychan > [{quoted}](name=Melledoneus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WR2WEKwr,comment-id=00040006,timestamp=2017-05-25T00:11:02.656+0000) > >and your ignorant braying is giving him a bad name wait, who is ignorant between me and this board pretending to know how to play against yasuo? MM thinks like me believe it or not, yasuo is not ban worthy, and yasuo is less unfun to play than A HUNDRED of champion at least in diamond and above. So while MM doesn't voice his opinion i do, but i think this is the last time i talk about yasuo i grew tired of this subject if people want to continue to not know how to deal with him it's their business, i have to take care of my business like nerf lulu instead of a love tap
MM thinks what he wants, and so do you. I don't care about that. But when you start stating opinion as fact it becomes a problem.
: I mean, I kinda wish Ahri would get a VU. Right now her tails come out all over her ass and even down to the top of her thighs.
Don't worry. Ahri is one of the champions that the moment she needs anything short of a nerf, she will most likely get it due to her popularity. She doesn't need a VU as much as other champions, but the general cleanup after Urgot will include her, no doubt.
: That's why I ban cancer braum when I play Draven
{{champion:53}} A Braum ban, eh? Heh heh...
: and those reasons are why i hate this board permabanning yasuo "i will ban yasuo instead of learning how to play against him" because the thing they don't know is that if they do learn how to play against him they won't hate him anymore ***PLOT TWIST KAAAPA!*** oh and add to your list "i ban yasuo because i don't want my mate to pick him"
Please change your name. You're impersonating a good friend of mine and your ignorant braying is giving him a bad name and making me do a double take every single time.
: Okay, Cait should be nerfed, but why the attack delay nerf?
But what? An auto delay nerf is probably the best direction because Caitlyn is a high-powered auto attacker. Her headshots rival Jhin's autos, so why give her faster autos AND strong ones, on top of having one of the highest ranges in the game? Not to mention if they hit anything else, you or someone else would complain: **Remove damage from one of her abilities?** "Rito what the heck, Caitlyn needs her damage" **Reduce her trap count or its functionality?** "Rito wtf you reworked Cait to be a trap master and now she can't even have traps?" **Reduce the slow or remove the headshot on E?** "Rito wtf my immobile ADC has a worse Tristana W" **Nerf her base stats?** "Dafuq Riot Caitlyn is already squishy blah blah blah" I understand what it feels like to have your champion nerfed, and it sucks, but unless you can come up with a better argument than "that's a gameplay nerf," which was clearly the intention of this change, then your post is not substantial and nobody can really rally behind what you're saying.
: Oh did you enjoy Varus chunking your squishies by 40% with one Q from fog of war?
{{champion:201}} I loved it when he tried.
: He's in line for a VGU. He's not eligible.
{{champion:98}} What's your excuse now?
: It sure is better than nothing, I'd just love a skin that's planty... Like Death Blossom or Elderwood. A lot of love? Lol, this was her first skin since 2013, not so different from your Shen (Worlds skins not counted) - which at least got a full VGU and all his skins now look awesome. Zyra on the other hand got ONLY her base model updated in MYMU, which means Wildfire, SKT and even Haunted look like shit in comparison - because of that I prefer playing with her base model most of the time - and they are going to get updated 5 years from now at best, at that time League is possible to not exist anymore...
Most of Shen's models from his VU look amazing, but the particles and animations done were lazy and look just plain off on some skins. There's clipping parts on some of the skins, proving that the work was rushed, too. In fact, there are no particles for any of his skins. They're all the same particles and effects.
: May I join the "my main finally got a skin after a thousand years and it sucked" club? Two words: Butt wings
The dragon eggs and vines look awesome, though. I mean, Zyra may not get many skins, but her skins receive a lot of love.
Ralanr (NA)
: I kinda wish he didn't. Only real good thing about it is the ult. He's too bulky and uses a hammer, not fun.
Yeah, I thought I was the only one who absolutely hates the design.
Ralanr (NA)
: I also see no pool party Sion skin. Sadness becomes me.
At least he got a legendary...
Ralanr (NA)
: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e6adf9888da8d0c2c81dcd442d78ba018fbff58fb78893857ac9d894542a5c8.png This thread will probably get deleted now.
Still no Shen skin. #Hope is Lost.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fondling Gems,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5kQc0fwN,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-05-24T08:15:04.481+0000) > > I mean they still see the beam and sound effect the whole time. Death is sudden, and will always get you is his theme. It doesnt need to be loud.
Actually Karthus is about "death is coming, but you can do nothing to stop it." That's why he screams out poetic threats while ulting. He's a very show-y lich.
: I love how we get useless information from Kalista (its completely irrelevant to 8 other people) but somehow it's too noisy for Karthus whose ability effects the entire enemy team?
Rioter Comments
: The Unholy Trinity
: And runes and masteries grant barely anything at level 6. It's about 10-12 armor. That's -6 armor. 6, not 15, not 25, not 60. 6.
At lower amounts of armor 6 armor gives quite a bit of damage reduction. Not to mention you get much more if you buy an armor item against him, then it'll go up to the 20s and 30s in armor pen.
: Wait, what makes a champion more susceptible to true damage than other champions? Low base HP? Low base HP *Regen*?
Lack of shields and sustain. Tanks like Maokai have good sustain, and tanks like Shen have good shielding to ward off true damage. Sejuani has neither of those, because she relies heavily on her resistances.
: When you want to help your teammates but they can't help themselves
{{champion:136}} Here, let me help you. {{champion:223}} GG FF@15 {{champion:223}} *A Summoner has disconnected*
Memelon (NA)
: I just can't imagine how they can outdo what they have already made with Zed's current Splash Art, it's perfect the way it is everything about it is perfect.
I can imagine him melding in the shadows while throwing a shuriken, several shadow clones behind him and the glow from his red eyes trailing behind him.
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Melledoneus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=B91VJfzG,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2017-05-22T20:27:53.810+0000) > > It&#x27;s like people don&#x27;t read these days. > > Of course they lost, positive attitude never wins games. It was an honest mistake dude. You don't gotta be a jerk about it.
: And this is why people don't take the boards serious. Heavily biased towards tanks whereas Reddit favors adc's. A middle ground has to be found, and yet nobody seems to at least consider the other side's point of view.
*Cue Tyrek's post being referenced* In all seriousness people need to calm down with their suggestions sometimes and consider how it would change the game. An overall damage reduction would be nice, but then resistances would be way too strong, true damage would be rampant, and carry roles would become one-dimensional in their builds for penetration. I'd rather have certain types of damage hit, or give diminishing returns on how much your items can increase your damage after a certain point so that carries have the choice to opt into defense without losing too much.
: > His actions might have even been the reason we won that game. > **His actions might have even been the reason we won that game.** > #His actions might have even been the reason we won that game. No they lost obviously.
It's like people don't read these days. Of course they lost, positive attitude never wins games.
FilDaFunk (EUW)
: So where's her tenacity, then?
: Do you minecraft? I run a dedicated server for a small group of people
Last time I played Minecraft was almost 6 years ago.
: Some adcs can make a gap. Like an ashe panic ult.
: I don't understand how most of the board has an issue with Caitlyn out of nowhere. She hasn't changed; she's been this way since they reworked. None of her items have changed, nothing about her has changed, she's the same she always has been for at least the last season and a half. :/ She's not hard to deal with in the least either. Like someone else said, she is very susceptible to camps and in teamfights, she's easy to get on top of with an assassin or diver as well. I still remember the game I was a 7/0 Cait out of lane but once teamfights happened, the enemy Shaco rendered me useless. As for Strong Early -> Weak Mid -> Strong Late, works in that if neither ADC dies bot lane and its just a farmfest, Cait will be significantly weaker than other AD's right after laning. The same applies to Tristana who has always had a rather good laning phase but pisspoor midgame.
People forget she's annoying for a bit, then they play against her and remember again.
: {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Can I get slapped somewhere else?
: I like you. You focus more on fun less on QQ. A true memelord.
Ooh, someone has a crush on meeee~. Well, TOO BAD. I am reserved for VIP, aka my man in blue.
ViceN53 (NA)
: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2po2AYpEo_4/maxresdefault.jpg
A great series with an amazingly simple yet fitting ending.
Mudrensen (EUNE)
: This happened so many times to me I can't laugh... I have like a billion games on Thresh.All those wasted flashes...
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