: Honestly, Iā€™d do two things to balance her: A.) Nerf the scaling of her true damage, hard. Either make the base damage much lower and make it scale with AD OR replace it entirely with flat damage instead of % damage. B.) Jack up condemns cooldown by two seconds at all ranks.
Opinions like yours is why Riot is damn near bankrupt. Vayne is just fine the way she is. You should learn to play against her better.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EafPVmOq,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-08T18:13:10.510+0000) > > At least on Toplane she has hard counters > > https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Vayne/Top/ i absolutely dont buy it. garen is listed there, this means something is off. at no stage of the game can garen ever fight vayne on his own. even if you get jungle ganks and kills on her as a result, you never get into the position where youre able to fight her. no gold or level advantage can help you, simply since her kit and yours doesnt allow it. literally all she has to do is sit on her e and not use it on a minion or some entirely unrealistic shit, and you will never ever be able to make a play on her with garen.
There are ways to counter that - you're Garen, why wouldn't you have QSS anyways? stop blaming and learn to build. With your logic, Faker should get destroyed by a Bronze Vayne player if he's Garen right? I mean, there's nooothing you can do against her right?

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