: I miss the days
I too miss the good ol' days of Burning Crusade when the game was a low technology, tedious grind fest. I swear it has nothing to do with my Nostalgia goggles and growing boredom from a game I've been playing for years.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rd2yxEvE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-08-20T19:49:38.652+0000) > > The problem is nobody can just say "I have been playing this game for years and do not like it anymore. I grew bored of it." It has to be something 'wrong' with the game. Every game has 'flaws' and Riot tries to fix them, but most of what people whine about is bollocks or just an opinion they want to enforce as if it were the only true viewpoint. well, a big issue with that is that the game did not have declining interest until riot started changing its whole design philosophy. There were players from beta all the way to season 6...then the game started going out the window because so many ridiculous strategies came about that just break the game because riot implemented unnecessary features (tower first blood, global first blood, making top now a dominant objective instead of slightly better than bottom lane, and how many other things? oh yeah, Masteries started the whole mess XD) not to mention riot made existing problems worse with their class update of the marksmen
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rd2yxEvE,comment-id=000100000004,timestamp=2017-08-21T00:43:57.756+0000) > > well, a big issue with that is that the game did not have declining interest until riot started changing its whole design philosophy. There were players from beta all the way to season 6...then the game started going out the window because so many ridiculous strategies came about that just break the game because riot implemented unnecessary features (tower first blood, global first blood, making top now a dominant objective instead of slightly better than bottom lane, and how many other things? oh yeah, Masteries started the whole mess XD) > > not to mention riot made existing problems worse with their class update of the marksmen People have been saying that the game is ruined or that it is changed too much or that it is trash or that it is dying since season 2 when I joined. it is just like many other games any change or lack thereof is met with a bunch of anger.
: My new GF is a lingerie model :P
Sdars (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rd2yxEvE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-08-20T19:49:38.652+0000) > > The problem is nobody can just say "I have been playing this game for years and do not like it anymore. I grew bored of it." It has to be something 'wrong' with the game. Every game has 'flaws' and Riot tries to fix them, but most of what people whine about is bollocks or just an opinion they want to enforce as if it were the only true viewpoint. How is that a problem? Some people DO quit due to boredom alone, but I don't see how quitting because you have a specific problem with an element of the game is a problem. It might even be something that is perfectly fine and doesn't need changes. Doesn't change a thing. If something detracts from the experience to the point where you don't want to play the game then by all means you can leave. Secondly, it's perfectly fine to write a post about it in the boards. It's not against the rules and it's not a douchy thing to do, as long as the way you write it is fine. Maybe riot doesn't care at all, but in the offchance that they do check some posts, and post titles, to get a feel for things, if there's something that's nagging you enough to make you leave the game, then riot should want to know, as more players = better business. Of course they're not going to cater to random people for no reason, but if a trend shows up, they should then look into it, as they sometimes do. What I'm saying is that even though there's a sea of tears, the real problems emerge as clear patterns, either directly or indirectly. I do agree that people who try to enforce their ideas as the only true viewpoints, without even listening to other people, are bad for the boards, but most people aren't like that. There are a lot more people that fall into the first category, where they whine about X champion only because it got fed in their previous game. That is indeed annoying, but again, not all people are like that. I'd say there should be a mini-guide on how to give good feedback, but few people would read it, I reckon. Regardless, giving feedback should be most incentivized. Maybe your point of view is flawed, but it doesn't matter. There's no way to know ahead of time if your feedback is good or not, so everyone should be allowed, in order for the good feedback to go through. As long as people are nice, I don't mind that really dumb feedback is posted on the boards. And that goes both ways. If you see feedback you disagree with that isn't just mindless rage, you should explain why you disagree. You might actually be surprised and end up having a discussion that changes your mind. Finally, I get that you've pretty much lost all hope for the boards, but keep in mind that you do have an effect on them. It's sort of like fixing a bad MMR. You might win a lot less lp than you lose for a while, but once you fix your mmr you'll start climbing. In the same way, if you have a positive effect on the boards, it might feel like they still suck at the start, but they'll start getting better and better. Slowly, but they will. There will always be raging kids, but you have to be understanding too. Treat them calmly and maybe you can actually get a rational answer out of what seemed like a hopeless player, or ignore them. It's up to you. **TL;DR:** I sympathize with your frustration, but you should try to be understanding. While your post is meant to be funny, and it does get some good laughs, it also shows a lack of understanding that points of view vary wildly and players are very biased, but it's also fine to share a biased opinion, as everyone is biased and it's the combination of all that feedback that forms a picture, and sometimes, that leads to a discussion that makes someone change their mind. I do agree the way this feedback is stated is often inadequate.
> [{quoted}](name=Sdars,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rd2yxEvE,comment-id=000100000003,timestamp=2017-08-21T00:00:42.809+0000) > > How is that a problem? Some people DO quit due to boredom alone, but I don't see how quitting because you have a specific problem with an element of the game is a problem. It might even be something that is perfectly fine and doesn't need changes. Doesn't change a thing. If something detracts from the experience to the point where you don't want to play the game then by all means you can leave. > > Secondly, it's perfectly fine to write a post about it in the boards. It's not against the rules and it's not a douchy thing to do, as long as the way you write it is fine. > > Maybe riot doesn't care at all, but in the offchance that they do check some posts, and post titles, to get a feel for things, if there's something that's nagging you enough to make you leave the game, then riot should want to know, as more players = better business. > Of course they're not going to cater to random people for no reason, but if a trend shows up, they should then look into it, as they sometimes do. > > What I'm saying is that even though there's a sea of tears, the real problems emerge as clear patterns, either directly or indirectly. > I do agree that people who try to enforce their ideas as the only true viewpoints, without even listening to other people, are bad for the boards, but most people aren't like that. There are a lot more people that fall into the first category, where they whine about X champion only because it got fed in their previous game. That is indeed annoying, but again, not all people are like that. I'd say there should be a mini-guide on how to give good feedback, but few people would read it, I reckon. > > Regardless, giving feedback should be most incentivized. Maybe your point of view is flawed, but it doesn't matter. There's no way to know ahead of time if your feedback is good or not, so everyone should be allowed, in order for the good feedback to go through. > > As long as people are nice, I don't mind that really dumb feedback is posted on the boards. > And that goes both ways. If you see feedback you disagree with that isn't just mindless rage, you should explain why you disagree. You might actually be surprised and end up having a discussion that changes your mind. > > Finally, I get that you've pretty much lost all hope for the boards, but keep in mind that you do have an effect on them. It's sort of like fixing a bad MMR. You might win a lot less lp than you lose for a while, but once you fix your mmr you'll start climbing. In the same way, if you have a positive effect on the boards, it might feel like they still suck at the start, but they'll start getting better and better. Slowly, but they will. There will always be raging kids, but you have to be understanding too. Treat them calmly and maybe you can actually get a rational answer out of what seemed like a hopeless player, or ignore them. It's up to you. > > **TL;DR:** I sympathize with your frustration, but you should try to be understanding. While your post is meant to be funny, and it does get some good laughs, it also shows a lack of understanding that points of view vary wildly and players are very biased, but it's also fine to share a biased opinion, as everyone is biased and it's the combination of all that feedback that forms a picture, and sometimes, that leads to a discussion that makes someone change their mind. I do agree the way this feedback is stated is often inadequate. I think you are taking my shitposting too seriously. Now that General is mainstream I no longer need memes and games. I gave up making reasonable posts over half a year ago. Just switched to making some lolz about typical board posters.
THE FF KING (EUNE)
: and qq posts and posts about qq posts are ruining the boards...
> [{quoted}](name=THE FF KING,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rd2yxEvE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-08-20T20:05:36.704+0000) > > and qq posts and posts about qq posts are ruining the boards... Umadbro?
: Quality post Mira. Just like always. Also, the lack of Wolf champs are ruining the game.
The problem is nobody can just say "I have been playing this game for years and do not like it anymore. I grew bored of it." It has to be something 'wrong' with the game. Every game has 'flaws' and Riot tries to fix them, but most of what people whine about is bollocks or just an opinion they want to enforce as if it were the only true viewpoint.
Rioter Comments
: mobility is not why juggernauts need to be "broken" to be good
But tanks are the innocent victims of every atrocity in human history. :'(
: Her armor is either magic(changes in size and shape to fit her different forms), or a part of her body that she can seemingly control. The former seems most likely since 1. how does she go to the bathroom if it's a part of her body that covers "those" parts? and 2. shes not a shapeshifter like mystique where she has full control over her body. The reasons her armor is likely magic and forms to the wearer rather than taking it off or breaking the armor when she transforms is 1. She is definitely wearing the same armor in her dragon form 2. it's still on her when she transforms from dragon to human. 3. https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/4/49/Shyvana_Lore.png/revision/latest?cb=20170323200024 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NLdmNNwL6cs/maxresdefault.jpg you can see in both of these official art pieces of Shyvana mid transformation, that her armor is changing shape as she does.
This seems to be the most true and matched all the art and gameplay. But was not an available option for some reason.
Epicurus (OCE)
: What Happends to Shyvana's Clothes During Transformations?
I like option B the most and in lore it is implied that she avoids transforming when possible. So I doubt it is all too common that she even transforms. And if she knows she is going to transform ahead of time she can easily take the armor off first. Not a fan of option A or option C. She is neither a changeling nor is she a magician. She is a beast an option B reflects that the most.
Eedat (NA)
: "We demand champion diversity"
The boards are like extremely far right/left people. They assume their cause is about righteousness, diversity and fairness but really it is about excluding those they don't like so the game can be exclusively for them.
: Reminder that Gameplay needs more positive threads
: Now this is just being petty. Yorick is interesting but he isn't popular, not in the slightest.
I gave up a long time ago and switched to shitposting. If you had not noticed. Nothing is too petty for shitposting. Also interesting is subjective until given statistics like... popularity.
MenoOG (NA)
: shade. I'm a mid laner dude yorick isn't on my radar. Only few top champs are interesting to me. lol
Just throwing some shade at the boards. The pic was great. Syndra is one of three mages I played when I mained mid along with Brand and Malz.
MenoOG (NA)
: Star Guardian Syndra fan art
Wow! Yorick has not gotten fan art in x amount of tine how day you draw an actually interesting champion.
: When Riot doesn't wanna buff Morde due to his toxic kit and upcoming VGU...
: can we get back to what made league popular
Would be nice to see some cool new female champions in the game. Been waiting a loooong tiiiime. Get stupid shit like Camille and Xayah. Who are just annoying fucks.
: MFW people complain about malphite Q damage nerf
: damn hatedaddy, how can u defend vayne u r for sure vayne main u monster !!!! good post btw
: I FEEL SO VALIDATED! On one hand I'm like "shit, not mira, she was one of my favorite posters", but on the other hand I'm like http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/954/924/bd1.jpg Honestly this is what happened to me. I tried being an "intellectual" on the boards for a while but just got worn down and started meta shitposting and occasionally making a good post here and there. RIP old Mira, can we shitpost together now :P
: Meanwhile no one is bitching about the following being left overpowered as fuck: {{item:3504}} {{item:3193}} {{item:3190}} {{item:3109}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3076}} And these are items that are blatantly overpowered. Not even the ones who are slightly overtunned. Ardent Censer is so overpowered Trundle is building with Stoneborn Pact as a support to be viable. Stoneplate is harder to event explain, but there's a few ways to go about it. Renekton and Jarvan IV are viable in top lane compeitively because they can build Stoneplate. No other bruiser is viable top lane (with very few exceptions) nor even contested. Stoneplate giving massive resistances is insane, while also making anyone who has it practically unkillable for 4 seconds. Tanks don't care about damage midgame so they could give fuck all to the damage reduction, with the exception of Cho'Gath. Tanks are still building Locket and Stoneborn + Locket is giving 1000 HP shields. Who didn't think Tanks wouldn't abuse the fuck out of an item once it was given a % health to shield ratio based on the user's HP? Knight's Vow is still being abused by tanks because 12% damage reduction is an insane amount to give to an AD carry. Yasuo literally almost every 1v1 matchup with PD, and somehow it was a good idea to give ADCs that unconditionally? Death's Dance Draven and Riven is literally the largest plague to this game. Mages who don't even want the passive are literally buying Liandyr's for it's raw stats and then oneshotting any non-tank mid game. Bramble Vest has literally killed mulitple bruisers top lane. Thornmail is a noob trap, but Bramble is a free win lane 900 gold item.
Most of those are Tank items with an AP item. So of course nobody hates them.
: This is honestly why I don't use any lissandra skins Blade queen: They will be frozen in ice...FREEZE! me: Lissandra...have you checked your current weapon of choice?
SG Shyvana also feel a tad off in this regard.
: When in doubt, upload to imgur. Just go to imgur.com, and paste the link. It will upload it, and you can link the imgur image instead Like so: http://i.imgur.com/Pk34SOM.jpg[/img] Note: Remember to add [/img] at the end of imgur urls to center the image correctly
But... I was told you were never helpful! GD told me.
: Killing 7.17 Vayne as a melee or winning the lottery, what's more likely?
: Save a ban slot for Vayne
Nah too busy banning Morde to piss off his 5 mains.
: Let's have a CALM, RATIONAL discussion about the Vayne buffs on PBE
"CALM, RATIONAL discussion" These are the boards. People don't go to boards if they are happy or rational. Riot even once said they ignore most rage posts so it is not a big deal. People come here to rage, get social satisfaction out of upvotes or play some excessively bias "I know how games should be designed" garbage where they pretend to be highly intellectual(my former shtick). If you want rational discussion about patches watch something like LS or Phreaks patch notes, people with actual knowledge who aren't just bitching. The gameplay board is literally just a safe space for whining about every way Riot hurt people's feelers with changes, so they don't bother any rational people of the silent majority with it. The fact that you got downvoted for wanting to have calm rational discussion shows the mob-rule mentality here, nobody cares about reason. They just want to make a dozen more whining posts about who got what skins or why supports are so abused and need to be protected rather than actually discuss gameplay.
: Sooo...This Vayne Buff.
Another person riding the train to the front page.
: can we not buff vayne without adding a counterplay mechanic to her w?
"wtf is this shit?" I had the same reaction when I first saw how whining the loud minority of the boards was. But then I realized only whiners have reason to post in gameplay for the most part so that will always be the case.
: Here's the problem: Riot games doesn't want to add any type of new mechanic to Sion because of how "balanced" his kit is. People are so stuck on the whole "sion's rework was so perfect for counterplay", and riot doesn't want to push him over the edge and ruin the fantasy of his _perfect_ rework In reality, the only people playing sion are 1 tricks because nobody wants to play a champion that has so many telegraphed abilities. There's so many other champions that does what he does, but better and the only people who fall for his kit are in low elo
Or because he is ugly or boring to the majority of people which is why about half the champions in the game are 'underplayed' regardless of power.
Rainfall (EUNE)
: riot is trying to ruin the game so that the lcs is intresting for the couple of thousands of people that will watch it.
*Ruin the game for salty boards members
: i dont see the problem she can no longer oneshot and kills tanks better..... which is her niche
tieger05 (OCE)
: Vayne's buff was ridiculously unneccessary.
Yes it was, I need a way to easily make tank mains cry, besides she is weaker against low HP targets now.
: These Vayne buffs on the PBE lol
Good keep buffing her till all the boards members quit the game then nerf her back to fairness.
: yorick is only one of those things, darling
Almost every champion the boards love are most of those things.
: WHY is vayne even buffed?
Oh boy, more whining. How typical. But eh, these boards won't listen to people in silver, master or LCS unless it is pedantic whining and bitching with minimal effort to be unbias or gather facts.
: nerf shyvana
Pls do then i can whine on the boards about my unpopular, outdated, badly designed champion not being Riot's #1 Priority like everyone else around here.
: You realize that by pointing it out that way, you're QQ'ing too, in a way... :)
: Mira, I respect your opinion a lot, as a popular boards member, and I really hope you can understand. I do not have a problem with wanting a skin for a champion who has a low playrate, however, I most certainly do not support making those who play popular champions feel like shit when they got a new skin, and all they see are threads about how they don't deserve them. Imagine a yorick player finally gets a new skin, how would they feel if all they saw were people saying that Cassiopeia deserved it more?
Razyelx (EUNE)
: The Most Favorite Champion of All Time [Voting Elimination] - Group B
The Most Favorite Champion of All Time [Voting Elimination] - Group B* *On the boards, a very small and bias portion of the community.
Penns (EUW)
: I mean the only real item with tenacity are Mercs and {{item:3111}} = 25 MR + tenacity while {{item:3020}} = 15 magic pen + no passive kappa
: > [{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sEAfeHrp,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2017-08-08T23:18:03.302+0000) > > Well educated people are too busy to be in Diamond. I am a banker and am going to school, no time to rank up. I'm a doctor, lawyer and psychologist currently taking 18 credit hours per semester while gliding to diamond.
> [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sEAfeHrp,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2017-08-08T23:28:46.953+0000) > > I'm a doctor, lawyer and psychologist currently taking 18 credit hours per semester while gliding to diamond. uhuh
Edres (NA)
: Oh nice. Didn't know that, thanks.
Actually Karma's root is longer than Morg's if ulted first :D
Catalin10GG (EUNE)
: The new SG skins are cool but...
lol good, screw Yorick getting a skin.
: Here's how we can fix the sub-board Gameplay:
Well educated people are too busy to be in Diamond. I am a banker and am going to school, no time to rank up.
SlownD (NA)
: Super Boss Viktor [Arcade Skin Concept]
: Yorick should get the ultimate skin this year
lol Every day that passes without a Yorick skin makes me a tad more gleeful. These boards made him one of my top 3 most hated champs of all time.
Viviana (NA)
: Oooh look another Ahri skin
Good, hope Yorick never gets one. Boards made me hate him.
: @Riot - I Understand Businesses Exist to Make a Profit, However....
I was so happy to hear the announcement that champions anybody cares about were getting skins. Every patch where Yorick doesn't get a skin makes me a bit happier.
: > If you believe that skins are something to be cherished, why do you insist on tearing everyone else down when they get it. Surely you want people to be happy for you when you finally get your skin? Then why so hostile towards the champions who get skins. They're popular for a reason. If non popular champs didn't have such a bad reputation for salt or hate on boards, maybe people would want to be more vocal for a skin who didn't play the champion. Honestly, I feel like Swain, yorick and Cass players are the equivalent of vayne, yasuo, and Lee sin players on boards. You're just incredibly toxic when things don't go your way. See this is my pain problem with all the hate on the boards (or anywhere really). It's fine to be disappointed, but don't tear down the mains of the popular champs for daring to get these skins because they must be "sheeple, rednecks, weebs drowning in their drool, etc. that only exist to feed Riot's greed." That just isn't cool.
NO! How dare you not play a champion who is ugly, outdated or has a maximum playrate of .5%! Get off these boards NOW!
: @Riot, about the new Star Guardian skins
Oh boy more of this QQ. Glad Riot doesn't care.
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