Rioter Comments
: Shyvana's new Bio is not only a downgrade of a decent piece of lore, but it's LITERALLY a mistake...
: I'm surprised you didn't add monster champions, bulky guys, and armored female champions to that list.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tfYd078K,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-02-28T07:08:33.233+0000) > > I'm surprised you didn't add monster champions, bulky guys, and armored female champions to that list. That is called humor. I say that as a drastic retort to the anti-sexy female culture on these boards.
Wolfeur (EUW)
: The fact that League is still one of the most relevant games nowadays both casually, competitively and in the streaming community indicates that mere popularity isn't the cause of its success. For a game to stay that strong that long, it has to have high quality. It's also surprising how everyone's favorite season is the one when they started playing, or the one after.
Once your product has enough name recognition you can stop providing quality or ruin your name with a lot of customers and still float on top for years. It took over a decade to kill Sonic sales as they put out games the fans didn't like. Granted they have regained some sales now that they put out a couple decent games. Point being you cannot crash an entire brand that easily. Especially nowadays when there are so many millions of potential customers. I hate how the game is now but have almost came back several times due to liking the brand and knowing people who play still.
: A more meta observation: Here we have a thread that isn't angry, isn't shouty, isn't telling Riot or its employees to find new employment or kill themselves. Just.. sadness and annoyance. More sadness than anything. I want to hold up threads like this as an example to certain people, specifically many of those on the moderation and advisor teams, the next time they use the excuse "Riot would engage more if players were nicer". Here's your nice thread. Where's the other half of that equation?
There are loads of nice posts. But when people are ignored long enough, they start screaming.
Wolfeur (EUW)
: The nostalgia goggles are strong. The game is not less fun than before, you just get tired of it. Toxicity hasn't risen, in fact it's getting better every year, but you've become fed up with it. The problem is not the game, it's your relationship with and view on the game.
Nostalgia goggles. Aka something that is exaggerated, misunderstood and cannot actually apply psychologically in the way gamers use it to excuse bad changes. Easiest way to dismiss the shortcomings of multimillion dollar corporations. Alongside the "It is old that is why sales dropped 21%!" Nonsense. When games like WoW made good changes they beat old sales record. Then they made bad changes and it dropped again.
: Can we talk about how the level of fun has dropped dramatically and the level of toxicity has risen
Riot sympathizers will just say you are wearing nostalgia goggles. Aka something that is exaggerated, misunderstood and cannot actually apply psychologically in the way gamers use it to excuse bad changes.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: I doubt any further adjustments will happen to her base skin. Riot wants to ship her current design, and people's opinions on it don't really matter for them.
Riot sympathizers will just say you are wearing nostalgia goggles. Aka something that is exaggerated, misunderstood and cannot actually apply psychologically in the way gamers use it to excuse bad changes.
: Can we talk about how the level of fun has dropped dramatically and the level of toxicity has risen
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: I just rejoined after a nearly two year hiatus, and I've definitely noticed a nagging issue; everyone can kill each-other in one rotation, even if no one is particularly fed or behind. Hell even with only a modest amount of damage built you can still erase someone. This is particularly frustrating when you're trying to carry a team, because if you die to egregiously high base damage, you give up a level and a half worth of experience plus 3 and a half kills worth of gold, your team loses the fight, **and** the other team takes a tower because they're still pathetic and pop instantly. The solution seems to be going on a magical PvE adventure wherein you split push for a free win >_>.
This is basically the biggest issue. Lower damage and you fix dying in .2 seconds, towers being too weak, a lot of the toxicity and how OP ganks and roaming are. You'd have to rebalance some tankier champions and regen/healing to prevent people from never dying tho.
: You missed Knock Ups. It used to be a special mechanic, now every champion gets a knock up.
I missed a lot of things. There is just so much bloat now. I wish we could revert the game back a few seasons. Then actually work on fixing problems rather than drastic, pointless changes. But they are a tech company, so a bunch of hipsters living in a monocultural bubble who think all criticisms come from inferior beings.
: Problems With Kayle's Design
Agreed but still downvoted for the pointless "Sexy women bad Kai'sa" jab.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qwzgZiV5,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-26T16:38:50.036+0000) > I spent over a thousand dollars and no longer play. And that's unfortunately the ultimate pitfall of these "games as a service" model. You end up with a bunch of resentful players rather than a bunch of disinterested players. Riot has no reason to care about what you think, even more so if they're unlikely to receive more money from you now that you own over $1000 worth of skins. They could release a new skin and get that $10 out of you, or they could just neglect your concerns and try to attract a new player which hasn't spent a dime on the game, who could buy both that new $10 skin and the thousands of dollars worth of skins that they've already made that costs them nothing to "manufacture" more.
This basically, and then send their volunteer admins and mods into any complaints to praise the game and claim everyone is just nostalgic.
: I'm still gonna stand that pretty much all of this comes down to player skill then vs. player skill now. A lot of the things you say were unique back in the day (Build paths, how easy it was to swing things back, etc.) were mostly due to how the game was a game nobody REALLY knew how to play. Build paths and items were so unique because nobody truly understood what was good, so any build path was a viable one. Games weren't snowbally because people didn't know how to truly push an advantage nor close out a game. In addition, champions would suddenly surge into popularity because one player and/or team would suddenly explode onto the scene with a meteoric change of pace. A good example is Moscow 5, which I recommend watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuQV0pYUkJQ TL;DR, this team changed the face of league by just playing differently. You...really don't see dark horses like this anymore come out with an out-of-left-field pick. More importantly if you do, it becomes so quickly adapted by EVERYONE is using it, meaning niche pocket picks like M5's Shyvana would never exist today. I also think you're flat out wrong about champions being gutted or removed in the old days. When Riot wanted to nerf your champ, that champ was **NERFED**. This also ignores the fact that there were some champions Riot flat-out kept in a bad space for the sake of players, such as Poppy, Sion or Evelynn. There's a reason the term "better nerf irelia" or to be "olaf'd" exist. But that's a side point and not my main one. Plus your argument about "Nerfing Kassadin only in unique areas" completely forgets the great crippling of 2014 where Riftwalk became Riftlimp. Still, I think this is the only section where you're flatout wrong. Today, (and for a lot of people) the game has gotten so competitive and the playerbase so skilled that older players who never got better are left in the dust. A new champion will be dissected to find out their worth in a matter of hours. Theorycrafting will discover new builds ASAP. The global audience means that everyone can spy pocket picks appearing in pro player inventories (Hecarim top? Viktor bot?) and people will rush to try them. I also want to say this isn't a problem you can solve by bringing back an older server, much in the way Classic WoW won't solve WoW problems: People are better now, know the OP builds and will roflstomp harder than ever before because they're bringing 2019 knowledge to a 2010 game. I'm hesitant to say League is a "solved" game, as its always changing an evolving. What I will say is that League is a game you can't go back to once the skill discrepancy extends too far. Any changes now to bring back old league would be seen as Riot removing skill or punishing good players and rewarding subpar ones. Hell, people give Riot flak for changing the game anyways. Right now, players are just too good at league. Gone are the days where this was a wild west of five champions vs. five champions. We're in the days where metas, games and rank are meticulously designed and won/lost via spreadsheet and player skill. League is a numbers game now and no amount of design changes or alterations will fix that. Best we can do, if you miss that, is try a new game....until the same thing happens to that game. Thus the cycle continues.
There are measurable changes people dislike. You can blame it on nostalgia all you want. I've been playing Elsword, Starcraft and other games since release and don't feel the same no. New talents, I don't like them and their effect is measurable. Scaling, too high and measurable. Rune changes, don't like it and measurable. Balance changes, releases and reworks. We can see directly their effects on the game. If I go back to Halo 2, Halo 2 is still Halo 2. The problems I don't like in 5 don't effect it. No matter my hundreds of hours in it. I don't buy it in the slightest.
: who is the hottest e girl in league?
GigglesO (NA)
: Rip Old League. Now we have League of Instant deaths an power creep.
It is this and more. The design of the map even now favors snowballing. The buffs positioning, the jungle, the tower stats. Everything is just about the most deaths, the fastest push, the biggest lead.
iV0lt4GE (EUW)
: So what you are asking for is "Classic LoL"? I mean it's not a bad idea, personally I would take it over what we have now.
Not specifically asking, because it won't happen and they won't change their ways. Game companies don't like their players in 2019, they barely make concessions on anything after massive outcry. It is just a personal rant to get my emotions out and hopefully anybody who feels the same can take it as a way of voicing that.
: Alternate title: "Opinion: Support is fun" You claim it's unpopular but the upvotes reveal that is a lie.
Almost all unpopular opinion posts are popular opinions trying to clickbait by claiming to be unpopular.
Anatera (NA)
: I've noticed that replayability through variety has gone down as well. Every match is so predictably annoying, with the same broken characters, feeding teammates, bland rune choices, complete lack of item build diversity. And Riot has been systematically removing variety in the game for a while now. I have no fucking idea why, since that's what kept people playing the game to begin with, not how many skins they can release for Lux and Ahri. Seriously, I don't know anyone who would actually say "The reason I keep playing League is because Riot keeps releasing skins for Ahri!" So I have no clue why they spend so much time on something that asinine. Being able to play characters, for example, that could run either an AD build or an AP build was FUN. Riot's refusal to balance those builds and instead opting to gut them to uselessness is nothing short of lazy. And so much of the game reflects this attitude. Runes and masteries were so utterly simplified to the point that there are only a handful of choices you could logically take because all other choices are so subpar. But, of course, it's hard to balance them. So, they just don't. Lazy. They said they'd change AP items to encourage variety in builds. I don't know who came up with this PR bullshit that's so obviously contrary to reality, but I'd like to know who they are, so I can laugh in their dumbass face. AP builds have become MORE samey ever since the rework. Have they done anything to address it? Nope. That's hard and takes effort. Lazy.
I think they feel they are on top and untouchable now. So they are entering their age of decadence and are not longer concerned with impressing players since the namesake alone is enough to keep them floating at the top of the MOBA lake.
Xamar (NA)
: Who's your favorite champ you aren't good with?
Copic (NA)
: "League isn't dying".
Dying is drastic. And that chart isn't really accurate. I would say it is on a downward trend. Some of that may be gameplay or story issues people like me have complained about. Some of it might be fatigue. Either way, in 2019 companies care little for their playerbase or sales, only being "right".
: "People shouldn't get banned for flaming, we shouldn't have to succumb to the bubble wrap society"
I find most flamers are insecure and thin skinned. They are the ones who need the bubble wrap. If you can't get through a videogame without getting nasty, you are likely lacking in either confidence or self control.
: I'm trying to start playing LOL again. I think aram is still fine. Haven't played SR enough to say how good or bad it is. I do agree with you that their modern design philosophy is trash that is ruining the game, but I don't think riot is listening. It doesn't help that the balance team can't do their jobs.
I don't think they can balance it. Because the design direction is so extreme to begin with. When you have this snowball design and insane overall damage, everything and anything can be insanely unbalanced no matter what you try to tweak. Balance use to be more common because it is easier to balance champions when everyone dies slower.
Copic (NA)
: Yeah, I don't play nowhere near as much anymore. As the years progressed and new seasons were introduced, I've lost more and more interest because the game I loved so much just became something else. No, it's not because I'm older with a full time job now, because I do have the time to play, it's just that I don't find the need to in a sense. Winning doesn't give me satisfaction anymore, but losing just makes me not want to play anymore. I have nothing but a negative experience playing now-a-days, and if you go to google trends, it actually shows you that the game has been on a steady decline sense season 5. In all honesty, I won't be playing the game the game to a serious degree unless they give us a legacy mode or something.
I feel the same. It isn't like I hate the way the game is now. And I have time to game, just was playing games all last night. But when I would play this game it was just feeling more and more like frustration. I don't like it when games increase the speed at which everything happens at the expense of the gameplay and fun. Whether it be an RTS sequel or a MOBA. It is so hard to enjoy matches now. And it isn't like I don't enjoy the formula, played some bot games on my second account. I had fun, but that is because it is bots. Meaning most the things I don't like can be ignored.
: The problem with Junglers
Since the dawn of time, Junglers have known. Never gank a lane that is behind.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QfdRPhFv,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-02-26T15:52:58.212+0000) > > If League was anything like S2-S5 I might rejoin. The talent overhaul and changes to make esports flashier made it boring. tbh I really ended up hating pro league because I started getting worried every time they played a champion I enjoyed. Now when one of my friends tells me nidalee got picked a pray that the team loses and the nidalee player feeds their ass off lmao.
> [{quoted}](name=WindLord7070,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QfdRPhFv,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-02-26T16:04:09.050+0000) > > tbh I really ended up hating pro league because I started getting worried every time they played a champion I enjoyed. Now when one of my friends tells me nidalee got picked a pray that the team loses and the nidalee player feeds their ass off lmao. This happened to me and Shyvana. She was overall weak in a meta but got picked once in pro-play. Suddenly everyone was picking her and demands for her to be nerfed appeared on the boards a day later XD
: Who has .2 seconds reaction time.
Everything dies in .2 seconds it us 2019. Nobody has time for well thought out, long games with strategy but low spectacle.
: #Riot Champ Design, Is there any interest in creating more niche champions again?
I thought you meant gameplay. But yes I agree on both. More niche options both for gameplay and story. And don't be scared of archetypes.
: > [{quoted}](name=TinyMasterOfEvul,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QfdRPhFv,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-02-26T11:59:13.121+0000) > > If they had made a vanilla League, wouldn’t players still be aware of the meta? > It seems like old league is gone forever just because the players got better. WoW is not strategic. I mean sure you have to look up a guide to defeat a boss... but that’s like playing Odyssey or Invasion on League. WoW is more PvE than PvP, which is really easy to go back to. > Eventually those old school champions will get played out. There will be top champions to win. In avanilla mode I doubt they would change it, cause it’s vanilla league, the future has already happened. It's not just about the meta. League is just a different game now some people like the old design more than the current. Of course even if they brought old seasons back it wouldn't be exactly the same players have gotten better and more creative over the years but on the other hand league in the past actually had more options to diverge from the norm and had more creative opportunities. Most champs these get forced into a single build and even worse a single role so you get punished way harder for experimenting or playing a champion you like in your preferred role or for trying to do different builds.
> [{quoted}](name=WindLord7070,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QfdRPhFv,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-02-26T12:16:24.012+0000) > > It's not just about the meta. League is just a different game now some people like the old design more than the current. Of course even if they brought old seasons back it wouldn't be exactly the same players have gotten better and more creative over the years but on the other hand league in the past actually had more options to diverge from the norm and had more creative opportunities. Most champs these get forced into a single build and even worse a single role so you get punished way harder for experimenting or playing a champion you like in your preferred role or for trying to do different builds. AP Teemo Movespeed Teemo Bruiser Teemo AD Teemo On hit Teemo All viable when I started.
: I can't tell if shes building rather tanky there but even so what I miss is the damage shes taking, shes in baron pit getting hit by three people or getting attacked a little bit by riven and NOT losing ALL of her hp within the decimal point of a second. I miss back when if you had no items, using 3 abilities wouldn't 100-0 someone. There is way too much base damage in the game right now where everyone is just playing champs that kill you as quick as possible with no counterplay and I miss that only starting to happen if an enemy was like 8/0
> [{quoted}](name=The Biggest Gay,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QfdRPhFv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-26T07:52:49.404+0000) > > I can't tell if shes building rather tanky there but even so what I miss is the damage shes taking, shes in baron pit getting hit by three people or getting attacked a little bit by riven and NOT losing ALL of her hp within the decimal point of a second. I miss back when if you had no items, using 3 abilities wouldn't 100-0 someone. There is way too much base damage in the game right now where everyone is just playing champs that kill you as quick as possible with no counterplay and I miss that only starting to happen if an enemy was like 8/0 It isn't just base damage, it is scaling, items and masteries
: I'm actually crying thinking about old league.
If League was anything like S2-S5 I might rejoin. The talent overhaul and changes to make esports flashier made it boring.
: I don't really like Hot being gone.
Nah, this is better. Makes upvote farmers less viable. I see more real discussion now.
: Apex looks to be taking Fortnight's Crown by purely being a better game. Maybe that's Leagues Secret
Most other mobas bore me. Too many monsters, bulky dudes and girls in full armor. League has those slim guys and sexy girls I love.
Zapzya (OCE)
: Just as there has grown a cult of people who hate scantily clad women in recent times for no other reason than “it’s sexist”, there is a bias in the games industry towards making women appear sexy at the cost of sacrificing diversity in female appearance. The person you were calling out for being in the first camp is just calling out Riot for being in the second. Unless you have a history with them or have seen their past posts (I haven’t), I feel your response was unjustified.
Game companies make what people want, people indicate what they want with their wallet. Certain designs sell better. They also do have diversity in character design, there are over 140 champions. And only small portion of those are sexy females. I don't expect many ugly characters, period, because statistics and money show people don't want ugly. So I see no argument. The post they made didn't just address Kayle, or it would have been pure agreement from me. It was the typical "Vidya game makers smexist!" nonsense.
: Female Faces
OMFG!!!!! 7 characters have similar faces. Somebody call the police.
: How does anyone climb?
If you are good, you will eventually rise. If you are consistently good then statistically your team will always have at least 1 good player.
m0zz4r3ll4 (EUNE)
: Remove it and wait over 30 min to get into a game because there is only 1 supp per 5 mid laners?
: > [{quoted}](name=AbiwonKenabi,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=qRGolO2Q,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-21T18:36:06.988+0000) > > Yeah except we just got off of a log-in screen of Sylas, shirtless prisoner who is way sexier and prettier than he ought to be after just having broken out of prison. Sylas is just another example of a stupid character design made for kids who lack creativity. But hey, at least in a male character's login screen, they look badass even when they're shirtless and cute. Female characters instead, in login screens, are all and only about looking like softcore porn. > > There are plenty of ACTUAL sexist things in this world, why are you going to die on this hill in particular? Its pointless. What makes you think I only fight little sexist battles? I fight sexism in all its forms. Which includes this one. Also, perhaps a game that thousands of kids play worldwide IS influencing the way they view the word. So if that game is sexist, it IS a problem.
Madjack01 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=KhivBBwA,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-26T01:00:50.878+0000) > > You only care because it is a female. You are just another sex negative hipster who complains about every attractive female but ignores huge realism problems on just about every male character. Oha, maybe I'm bothering you but I just found it funny that I remembered your name from a time before lvl 31+ was a thing. Coming back or just checking things out before deciding?
I started in S2 preseason. I use to post a lot yes. No you are not bothering me. Not coming back, the game I loved is dust in the wind. I won't knock what it has become, if people like it I wouldn't take that from them. But unless it became, in general feeling, more like season 2-4 again. I probably wouldn't come back.
: > Also, perhaps a game that thousands of kids play worldwide IS influencing the way they view the word. So if that game is sexist, it IS a problem. You don't give kids enough credit. Also its on the parents to teach their kids how to view the world not the TV or game console. If your kids get their morals from videogames then you failed as a parent plain and simple.
Moral busybodies like the OP want to raise everyone else's kids for them.
Zapzya (OCE)
: Or because it’s Kayle, who has always been fully armoured and was loved for this unique visual appearance among the female cast. Also personally I think it just looks bad, I think Morgana looks good, my preference for whether a character needs armour changes dependent on the character, not the gender.
I agree the new Kayle is meh and the old one was better. I disagree with the cult of hating attractive female characters or females who are wearing limited clothing.
: I made a Kayle edit that likely constitutes the least amount of work necessary to fix her armor
Quepha (NA)
: lmao I've lobbied to make Poro Rider Sejuani and Resistance Illaoi sexier, fully supported the Evelynn rework where she want from the bondage outfit to actually nude, and drooled over Pool Party Leona but go on thinking I'm sex negative instead of for character diversity. I will admit that I only care because she's a female, I really don't give a shit about most of the male characters as actual characters except for like Gangplank, Veigar, Trundle, and Mundo.
Your arguments say nothing of wanting character diversity. They are just the typical "Woman being attractive is bad." Arguments that honestly, I am sick and tired of. Yes, you'd be intimidated and scared of her, for you life, not because she is hot. Just because you've played games that have numbed you to anything but the most gore, the more teeth, the most freaky. Says zero about real life.
: Person: Just give her some armor. Riot: \*Finds any excuse to not put clothes on female character*
You only care because it is a female. You are just another sex negative hipster who complains about every attractive female but ignores huge realism problems on just about every male character.
: > [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=P5nAFGyh,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-02-25T11:14:07.551+0000) > > Have you ever looked at Kai'Sa's splash art? > > She has a toned slim and muscular body. Yes and how is that toned and muscular? I see the exact same "sexy body" build that Riot puts on most of the female champions. Her arms have no definition or muscle to me. The arms look like the classic sexy girl skinny arms yet that could be due to the armor covering them. Her body isnt the "built for survival" one that a person would have normally its sexualized like a model or a girl you'd see in a fantasy RPG game. She has no muscle tone on her body, not even her legs.
You only care because it is a female. You are just another sex negative hipster who complains about every attractive female but ignores huge realism problems on just about every male character.
Quepha (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=P5nAFGyh,comment-id=000500020000,timestamp=2019-02-25T11:13:03.991+0000) > > Kai'Sa is protected from the void energies by her exoskeleton. It's not an exoskeleton when it's not composed of bone. It's a form-fitting, paper-thin body suit that shows off every inch of her drool-worthy curves. > > Also, as much as you like to think you wouldnt if a being with purple scaled a d hardened skin, especially one with its head covered so its completely expressionless, youd be fucking terrified. I'd be intimidated because she's a busty 36-24-36 babe who's way out of my league and confident enough to walk down the street in something that leaves nothing to the imagination, especially when she takes off her helmet and shows off her long, flowing hair and spotless, beautiful face. Her skin actually had a kinda gross, pale complexion when she was human but the "monster" fixed that up real nice. I'd probably get in trouble for staring.
You only care because it is a female. You are just another sex negative hipster who complains about every attractive female but ignores huge realism problems on just about every male character.
: > [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=P5nAFGyh,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-02-25T11:14:07.551+0000) > > Have you ever looked at Kai'Sa's splash art? > > She has a toned slim and muscular body. Yes and how is that toned and muscular? I see the exact same "sexy body" build that Riot puts on most of the female champions. Her arms have no definition or muscle to me. The arms look like the classic sexy girl skinny arms yet that could be due to the armor covering them. Her body isnt the "built for survival" one that a person would have normally its sexualized like a model or a girl you'd see in a fantasy RPG game. She has no muscle tone on her body, not even her legs.
Bulky muscles are bad for stamina and survival. Slim muscles are best.
: It seems like you have no idea what the words Market and Sexism mean. Riot may have had some setbacks in regards to employer-behaviour and that one big sexism scandal outed roughly a year ago, a little less than that. But their ingame designs and releases have never even grazed the curve for that. For you to assume that a simple flaw in the understanding of a character's design is borderline sexism screams hypocrit with every megaphone and alarm bell avaliable within the confines of human sanity. Sorry, really harsh, but honest is honest. If you don't like what they did to kayle, fine. But that doesn't mean you can just put your hand in your ass, take out some shit and toss it in other people's faces. Her reworked design does in no way, shape or form condone or promote ideas of sexism or hormonal delusions catering to 12 year old fortnite streamers pretending to be Ninja-fangirls. And the fact that you actually out a semblance for serious care for votes in your post just causes self-implicated mockery of the point you try to make because it gives out the appearance that you care for the votes more than for your point. It might not be your intention, but it is happening because you can say and type what you wanted all day, at the end of it, you get zero influence over outside interpretation of your post. TL;DR your post is poorly written, bordeline extreme with accusations and has just the right build of words to come off as attentionwhory. I highly recommend you work on your presentation and maybe review the facts a little more first. Sure, kayle's new design cropped her Stronk-armor-grill design, but she isn't outright naked either.
^This, I don't like Kayle's new design either. But the way this person made their post, and treats commentators, is super toxic.
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