: I wouldn't rub it in your faces if you guys weren't so salty about it and demanding Riot take my free stuff away or that my account be banned. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Colonel J,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9VkYIql5,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-12T05:16:11.750+0000) > > I wouldn't rub it in your faces if you guys weren't so salty about it and demanding Riot take my free stuff away or that my account be banned. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} you didnt pay for it so why care if you lose it?
Zöxs (NA)
: Languages in NA
you seem well versed in english. are you upset cause you can't read in your native tongue not residing in your native land? If you can read english whats the prob here? I'm not going to play a korean game based in korea and demand english. Maybe play the region of your birth for the desired text.
Wilyum (NA)
: To those who got free skins
Ive been fighting to tell people to let others have their opinions , but you just told the people with skins to shut up and the people without skins to get over it while making a post that shows you aren't over it. That is all
: Actually, those have been the same thing on many occasion. Also, it's not "abuse" if that's the way it is. The system didn't have an error; Riot made an error with the system. This isn't even the first time that it's happened.
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=000400000000000200000001,timestamp=2019-01-12T05:05:26.759+0000) > > Actually, those have been the same thing on many occasion. > > Also, it's not "abuse" if that's the way it is. The system didn't have an error; Riot made an error with the system. This isn't even the first time that it's happened. Agree to disagree
Mogwai23 (NA)
: Riot is proving that their skins cost nothing to provide.
Sounds good to me. What loser plays there old games anyway.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4Aot7rOr,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:47:26.561+0000) > > You do realize that the people running the system are part of the system? Fun fact of the IT world. But, they didn't _run the system_ they did everying that the system provided and intended for them to do.
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4Aot7rOr,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:58:44.554+0000) > > But, they didn't _run the system_ they did everying that the system provided and intended for them to do. The people who run the system didnt run the system? IS this a puzzle or a riddle? A group of people run the game and make changes to it. Trust me they did it, the system didnt set the BE to 1 for the capsules on its own. So yes they did accidently set it that way. And if it was intended why did they stop? Nothing about free skins was intended and i promise you this was human error not computer. If its not the people in charge of the system then who did it? It sounds like your implying the system moderators were given a piece of paper that instructed them to set the be to 1 and they never for one second thought that sounded fishy. So your saying every one involved was completely idiotic and brand new to how the company worked previous to that change?
: As someone who didn't get a bunch of free skins
yeesh...time to put down the ganja. start eating some memory pills. 9 months wasnt 9 years ago
Mogwai23 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=0004000000000002,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:29:36.501+0000) > > I don't whine about it because I'm not jealous of other people succeeding. > {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} succeeding and abusing a system are not and never will be the same thing. Now you can succeed at abusing the system but that just makes you a POS. But you got banned for over half a year from a kids game so you must be a pretty cruel dude and are more likely to do something shitty for personal gains than me.
> [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=00040000000000020000,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:43:51.103+0000) > > succeeding and abusing a system are not and never will be the same thing. Now you can succeed at abusing the system but that just makes you a POS. But you got banned for over half a year from a kids game so you must be a pretty cruel dude and are more likely to do something shitty for personal gains than me. Nope you just whine at people for whining. Your so different and original.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eGJfXem1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:26:30.645+0000) > > <Removed by Moderation> Hell if I remember. > It's been 9 months!
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eGJfXem1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:27:46.417+0000) > > Hell if I remember. So your like this so often it all blends together, got it.
Spotty (NA)
: As someone who got a bunch of free skins
A reminder to all the asshats who are calling everyone whiners. You are complaining and whining that people can't accept this or wont let go of that, but you are doing exactly that, but instead of directing it at Riot you direct it at your fellow players. You are no different. If you were trully better or capable of rising above it then shoulnd't you ignore the response and move on like the big men and women you claim you are? Guess not cause you whine JUST AS MUCH. Just about a different topic. You see something you do not like and put forth your negative opinion about it. It is absolutely the same action except you are hypocrites and idiots for pretending your something else. Quit pretending to be high and mighty. How is you whining at whiners going to end whinning? Just makes you look like trolling dickbags.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jinto,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4Aot7rOr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:28:15.303+0000) > > exploiters Typo, nobody exploited anything. Riot made an error and people did everything 100% legit. An exploit implies that what they did was in a way the system didn't intend.
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4Aot7rOr,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:37:38.769+0000) > > Typo, nobody exploited anything. Riot made an error and people did everything 100% legit. An exploit implies that what they did was in a way the system didn&#x27;t intend. You do realize that the people running the system are part of the system? Fun fact of the IT world.
: I don't whine about it because I'm not jealous of other people succeeding. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=0004000000000002,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:29:36.501+0000) > > I don&#x27;t whine about it because I&#x27;m not jealous of other people succeeding. > {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} succeeding and abusing a system are not and never will be the same thing. Now you can succeed at abusing the system but that just makes you a POS. But you got banned for over half a year from a kids game so you must be a pretty cruel dude and are more likely to do something shitty for personal gains than me.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:24:13.622+0000) > > Well again that cant be true. So your saying i dont own my ps4 games? cause all that shits digital content. No, you don't. You've only bought the right to access that data. Guess what? When PSN goes down, you will NEVER have access to that daata ever again. And guess what else? You will not have the right to demand compensation for the lost data you purchased. You will not be given physical copies of digital content. You will not be given data archives. PSN will die and so will however much you spent on digital content. Shoulda just bought physical.
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:32:06.383+0000) > > No, you don&#x27;t. You&#x27;ve only bought the right to access that data. Guess what? When PSN goes down, you will NEVER have access to that daata ever again. And guess what else? You will not have the right to demand compensation for the lost data you purchased. You will not be given physical copies of digital content. You will not be given data archives. PSN will die and so will however much you spent on digital content. > > Shoulda just bought physical. Well no shit sherlock. Of course if the company goes belly up your digital info is forfeit. But until then ITS MINE!!!! And apparently you can't even be decent enough to have access to the game so your opinion is suspect and possibly shitty. Go away. You have been staring at these boards for 9 months waiting for access again? That is beyond pathetic and sad.
: > [{quoted}](name=Destaice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:18:46.881+0000) > > Seems like you’re just whining about it to be honest. You’re not making any kind of coherent or meaningful point. Dude, it was a fcking glitch that gave people hundreds of dollars worth of capsules for free. No shit someone is gonna whine about it. IM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT. WHO DOESNT WHINE ABOUT THIS SHIT? THINK YOUR TOUGH BEHIND THAT SCREEN?
> [{quoted}](name=Snarf of thunder,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:20:06.995+0000) > > Dude, it was a fcking glitch that gave people hundreds of dollars worth of capsules for free. No shit someone is gonna whine about it. IM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT. WHO DOESNT WHINE ABOUT THIS SHIT? THINK YOUR TOUGH BEHIND THAT SCREEN? he in fact does
Mogwai23 (NA)
: Riot is proving that their skins cost nothing to provide.
Well again that cant be true. So your saying i dont own my ps4 games? cause all that shits digital content.
Destaice (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:15:38.483+0000) > > Then where is the appeasing of the angered masses. Most of us feel shit on by this and you can&#x27;t ignore that, but they are. Seems like you’re just whining about it to be honest. You’re not making any kind of coherent or meaningful point.
> [{quoted}](name=Destaice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:18:46.881+0000) > > Seems like you’re just whining about it to be honest. You’re not making any kind of coherent or meaningful point. well here is another liar. Cause i made the point quite clear. your existence is ignored starting now.
CLG ear (NA)
: they have to pay the skin team to design the skins tho
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:14:18.925+0000) > > they have to pay the skin team to design the skins tho Your not wrong. He prolly got paid a couple hundred to draw a picture and they charged you the same for the skin. sounds like a 2 million percent profit to me.
: They already said why they aren't taking action; their system was not set up to handle reverting all the different kinds of action someone can do with hextech loot (normally they'd do it manually), such as rerolling shards, disenchanting them, upgrading or renting, spending the essence from the DE etc. To manually fix the damage done by thousands of players opening tens or hundreds of capsules it would take months. Obviously they have lost a lot of money, but trying to fix it would take far too many man hours. Yes, the content is digital so there is no lack of supply regardless of demand. No, none of this means it doesn't cost them anything to create the content. Do you think it's randomly generated by a computer? Obviously there are some legitimate concerns with the direction Riot is going with things like the Prestige chromas, but it's really got nothing to do with this debacle and how they are handling it. There really isn't anything they could do better in this scenario.
> [{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Es8rq6ab,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:15:03.239+0000) > > They already said why they aren&#x27;t taking action; their system was not set up to handle reverting all the different kinds of action someone can do with hextech loot (normally they&#x27;d do it manually), such as rerolling shards, disenchanting them, upgrading or renting, spending the essence from the DE etc. To manually fix the damage done by thousands of players opening tens or hundreds of capsules it would take months. > > Obviously they have lost a lot of money, but trying to fix it would take far too many man hours. > > Yes, the content is digital so there is no lack of supply regardless of demand. > > No, none of this means it doesn&#x27;t cost them anything to create the content. Do you think it&#x27;s randomly generated by a computer? > > Obviously there are some legitimate concerns with the direction Riot is going with things like the Prestige chromas, but it&#x27;s really got nothing to do with this debacle and how they are handling it. There really isn&#x27;t anything they could do better in this scenario. cause they lied and you bought it hook line and sinker. They have it all saved...and he said it was harder to do not impossible. AKA sorry bitches but we aint doing shit cause we dont like to take time to fix out mistakes. Oh shit look its the Rito rug...Quick bob get the broom we gots some sweeping to do.
Mogwai23 (NA)
: Riot is proving that their skins cost nothing to provide.
Then where is the appeasing of the angered masses. Most of us feel shit on by this and you can't ignore that, but they are.
Mogwai23 (NA)
: Riot your plane out lying to your people. I dont believe for a single second that you dont keep track of everything there is to keep track of. Its the time of data farming and you guys arent going to be an exception. You poke and prod for insight into best loosening our wallets same as every other company. You know exactly how many chests each acount opened and what they got, what got disenchanted and so forth. Dont pretend that you dont cause thats become the basic business practice of every large company. Observe, record, manipulate. Rinse repeat. Don't let these fuckers fool you people!! They know it all and more and it all automatically is saved in a server farm over several locations so the information they use to manipulate your purchases isnt lost. Called fault tolerance. Scammers always be scamming.
> [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=uk0MeJ18,comment-id=0044,timestamp=2019-01-12T04:10:35.357+0000) > > Riot your plane out lying to your people. I dont believe for a single second that you dont keep track of everything there is to keep track of. Its the time of data farming and you guys arent going to be an exception. You poke and prod for insight into best loosening our wallets same as every other company. You know exactly how many chests each acount opened and what they got, what got disenchanted and so forth. Dont pretend that you dont cause thats become the basic business practice of every large company. Observe, record, manipulate. Rinse repeat. Don&#x27;t let these fuckers fool you people!! They know it all and more and it all automatically is saved in a server farm over several locations so the information they use to manipulate your purchases isnt lost. Called fault tolerance. Scammers always be scamming. Look at this line that lying jerk threw in your faces... "However, it gets more complicated when we talk about capsules and other loot items, because it's a lot harder to track what players have done with the capsules after they open them." He said HARDER not IMPOSSIBLE. Well guess what Riot. You fucked up so we dont give to fucking shits how difficult it is. Just fucking get it done and quit BSing us.
: Update on Yesterday's Capsule Pricing Error
Riot your plane out lying to your people. I dont believe for a single second that you dont keep track of everything there is to keep track of. Its the time of data farming and you guys arent going to be an exception. You poke and prod for insight into best loosening our wallets same as every other company. You know exactly how many chests each acount opened and what they got, what got disenchanted and so forth. Dont pretend that you dont cause thats become the basic business practice of every large company. Observe, record, manipulate. Rinse repeat. Don't let these fuckers fool you people!! They know it all and more and it all automatically is saved in a server farm over several locations so the information they use to manipulate your purchases isnt lost. Called fault tolerance. Scammers always be scamming.
Rioter Comments
: Where are the devs?
So they pay someone to comb through millions of threads but not to fix issues? Or take back Giant mistakes? Bet the banking software is running tip top and has 10 people making sure it doesn't ever stop running credit cards. Ill bet your moderator salary if the company had a money problem they would force people to come in and fix it. However, since they are letting 100s of thousands of dollars in skins slip by it PROVES that they are worhtless and cost them nothing to provide. If tesla had accidently sold its entire line for 10 bucks i bet they would try to get it back not just eat the loss. But there is no loss here. for them at least.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wilk Łucznik,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6qEupPk8,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-01-12T03:33:01.105+0000) > > (look at the little piggy shaking his butt! https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/293001441558265856.png?v=1 \) delete this
> [{quoted}](name=Colonel J,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6qEupPk8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-12T03:44:03.341+0000) > > delete this LOL time to moderate the moderators.
: Come join Internal Gaming!
are you saying you want people to get together irl and do some of these things or you want to skype karaoke? cause if its meet lol players maybe. If its all on discord then no.
Mogwai23 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Taco Kitteh,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rUYKLwjK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-12T02:29:06.385+0000) > > how do i do that? I swear I saw it somewhere, but i cant recall. You can probably do it from their main webpage. And you will have to download an app most likely so you can access the password on your phone
> [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rUYKLwjK,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-12T03:38:23.965+0000) > > I swear I saw it somewhere, but i cant recall. You can probably do it from their main webpage. And you will have to download an app most likely so you can access the password on your phone Just like World of Warcraft does if you play or played that.
: how do i do that?
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Taco Kitteh,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rUYKLwjK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-12T02:29:06.385+0000) > > how do i do that? I swear I saw it somewhere, but i cant recall. You can probably do it from their main webpage. And you will have to download an app most likely so you can access the password on your phone
: Hacked Account
Did you attach an authentication to it? the ever rotating unhackable password? If not do so.
Krayzie (EUNE)
: My thoughts on how Riot is progressively taking more and more money from us
And you're a poor example of a consumer. people can't not buy skins cause if no one bought any lol would vanish. So your idea is over dramatic and stupid. Repeating what people know already is only self serving so please stop serving yourself. No one gives two shits how much you spent on what and where and for who. Though im concerned this friend may be imaginary, but your lack of imagination kinda proves he isn't. You are not king of consumers so if you like how things are keep your fingers of the keyboard. Why even say it unless your just being a dick? If not making purchases was all it took to take over the companies of this world don't you think that would be how it is? I doubt you are the only player with a will of steel. Many of us don't want to stop paying for skins, but don't want to have to pay thousands for it either. Skins and the like are the only thing that keeps this game alive. Had they sold the game outright and never brought out a skin this game would have gotten old and died years ago. Its the content that keeps it going and that content doesnt need to be sold at exorbitant prices for Riot to make a profit or for the game to be polished and filled with nice content. Your a black and white kinda person and I get that, but this isnt a black and white world which makes you and your opinion on the matter just as not enjoyable as the first and last 15 minutes of the wizard of oz.
: You're welcome Riot <3
Thats like 9 straight days of only playing mord without sleeping or eating or poop breaks. And thats just the one champion he is showing. Dear lord.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-01-12T01:08:19.379+0000) > > NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO READ. And no-one is forcing you to spend money. Next?
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=000d00000000,timestamp=2019-01-12T01:28:01.891+0000) > > And no-one is forcing you to spend money. > > Next? Next huh...hmm Your unimaginative cause you just repeated yourself? Don't see how that didnt about cover it. I agreed no one is forcing anyone here. Are you dumb or just a trolling dick? If your not adding to the discussion then please stay off the thread. Go start a thread for mean people called "Don't buy nothin".
: The problem is that Rito probably don't keep track of all the details of loot box openings, shard disenchantment, shard rerolls, and other events necessary to revert everything reliably, so the only thing Rito can do without potentially removing other legally-acquired contents from the abusers' accounts and getting into legal trouble is...nothing.
> [{quoted}](name=Sorostaran,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=izmomivW,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-11T10:24:47.184+0000) > > The problem is that Rito probably don&#x27;t keep track of all the details of loot box openings, shard disenchantment, shard rerolls, and other events necessary to revert everything reliably, so the only thing Rito can do without potentially removing other legally-acquired contents from the abusers&#x27; accounts and getting into legal trouble is...nothing. But they do keep track of how much people spend, what they search on their game and sites, and how many skins they have. It wouldnt be difficult to run a search to see how much someone has spent vs having a shit tons of skins. If they have 1000s of dollars in skins but have only purchased 100 in rp well seems simple to me. ITs the age of big data. ANyone who thinks riot doesnt keep track of every last scrap of info is deluding themselves.
: As many people whine about skins being "money-grabs" y'all sure do spend money on them. You make it seem like Riot is forcing you to buy anything lol
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-01-12T00:34:26.763+0000) > > As many people whine about skins being &quot;money-grabs&quot; y&#x27;all sure do spend money on them. You make it seem like Riot is forcing you to buy anything lol How? I didnt read one post where someone said riot came to their homes with guns or kidnapped family members so I don't think that was claimed. Everyone understands that no one is forcing them. Whats mind boggling is how YOU and others who post the same response, don't understand that we all understand that and continue to reply to genuine player concerns with obvious facts that serve no purpose other than to alleviate your frustration with a conversation NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO READ.
Krayzie (EUNE)
: My thoughts on how Riot is progressively taking more and more money from us
Can't people do both? Say no by not buying and discuss how they feel about it here? Seems as though its physically possible. Since your not at the game store you can spend that store time on the message boards speaking with like minded people. Perhaps the people who want to simply "not buy anything" can start their own "dont buy anything" thread. Which everyone will be more than happy to let them have rather than trying to get people to not talk about it. If you need your topics to be super specific maybe you should avoid the GENERAL BOARDS.
: @Riot: Can We Get Some Stats On The Amount of People Leaving After URF?
ITs hard enough for Rito to keep up with whats already on their plate. You shouldn't overwhelm them. :)
: Not really a unique thing to league tbh, but I do get your point. It just comes down to what people want to spend money on. Some people are far more happy spending $$$ on a super duper skin that turns Blitzcrank into a racecar than buying some game they'll probably never play.
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainMårvelous,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Hy3A2Qn0,comment-id=000d000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-11T23:31:02.723+0000) > > Not really a unique thing to league tbh, but I do get your point. It just comes down to what people want to spend money on. Some people are far more happy spending $$$ on a super duper skin that turns Blitzcrank into a racecar than buying some game they&#x27;ll probably never play. It could also be that yes, inflation happens, prices rise and things always cost more than they used to, but the amount the skins have gone up is insane considering this game didnt come out in the 1950s. Things should double in price in only a few years. What id like to know is what happened to that Sesame Street skin with oscar and cookie monster now that they ruined another champion with a rework? I always wanted that skin and now its gone. What happened to the people that lost theirs? Did Riot reimburse them? Give them a replacement? Wtf happens when they decide to remove other skins and now they cost twice as much? Why charge 20 dollars for cosmetic stuff your not even guaranteed to keep down the road?
: > [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ak7yINEJ,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-11T20:55:42.951+0000) > > Again your missing the point so please dont post. No one #$%#$%@ said they shouldn&#x27;t make cash. If the cash flow stops the game stops. However, even when they first started and everything was WAAAAAAAAAAY cheaper they were making a KILLING. Its about getting fair prices not a free product. Everytime i see you people defend this company i wonder if you own y our own business and rip off your customers and thats why your so for it. Its insane how you and people with your I hate my fellow man mentality can rationalize things how you do. Do you want the skin enough to spend $80 on it? If so, buy it. If not, don't buy it. It'd be like posting on Porsche message boards saying, "I want one of your cars but it should only cost $15,000, what the hell!". You don't determine the value of their product; they do.
> [{quoted}](name=ApothNinja,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ak7yINEJ,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-01-11T22:29:20.319+0000) > > Do you want the skin enough to spend $80 on it? If so, buy it. If not, don&#x27;t buy it. It&#x27;d be like posting on Porsche message boards saying, &quot;I want one of your cars but it should only cost $15,000, what the hell!&quot;. You don&#x27;t determine the value of their product; they do. Thats stupid because thats taking it to far. Porsche wouldn't make a profit. Your again missing the point and look at any profit no mater how its made as ok. Which while legal is immoral. Riot sells skins for a FAR FAR FAR FAR........FAR greater profit than Porsche gets for it's cars. And unlike cars you don't just make it once and keep shelling out a digital copy. Ease and availability of a product should bring the price down. Thats why things with dififcult to obtain items are expensive, but they have no product and can at no cost produce and infinite amount. And both the company and the people determine the price of an object. To think otherwise is foolish. Thats why supply and demand is a thing and it isnt just supply. Demand means everything. Would you keep buying tvs or be happy about the decision if every tv maker suddenly decided "you know what? I make the prices. Every tv costs double now." You don't have to buy a tv, but im pretty sure it would piss you off when next you want to. Some see it as fair and some don't. What i dont get is why you (without making profit yourself or being paid by Riot) are actively going out of your way to bash the idea of lower prices?
: >I can get full games for the price of skins these days. Wonder how long to players get fed up? Well, your one problem there is that you assume someone buying a skin wants a new game or that the game that's 10-20 bucks is a game they'd want. While true, most people who buy a skin aren't like "damn I wish I could buy a new game. Oh well guess I'll get a skin". Most of the time they want that skin, so they buy it. The problem is that the constant escalation of skins means they end up not wanting more skins or they have a skin that already fills the desire of what they want.
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainMårvelous,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Hy3A2Qn0,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-01-10T23:06:27.582+0000) > > Well, your one problem there is that you assume someone buying a skin wants a new game or that the game that&#x27;s 10-20 bucks is a game they&#x27;d want. > > While true, most people who buy a skin aren&#x27;t like &quot;damn I wish I could buy a new game. Oh well guess I&#x27;ll get a skin&quot;. Most of the time they want that skin, so they buy it. The problem is that the constant escalation of skins means they end up not wanting more skins or they have a skin that already fills the desire of what they want. I'm pretty sure the shock and awe here isnt whether or not a person wants a new game its the fact that a "skin" costs as much as a fully developed game, with a story line, costumes, weapons, skills etc etc. Not just a skin. Whether or not anyone wants to purchase another game vs get a skin isn't the point and is irrelevant to the conversation.
Krayzie (EUNE)
: My thoughts on how Riot is progressively taking more and more money from us
I'm not disagreeing with not buying being part of the answer or the final step there of. I'm disagreeing with how you approached it and it being all you can say. Simply saying those three words isnt going to change hearts and minds. Perhaps if you had chosen to further elaborate on why they shouldn't or said "We all need to stop paying these prices and here is why and how" then spreading the word. Just hopping into these threads and yelling at people with "dont buy shit" wont do it. People are sheep and require being led. Cant just yell 3 words at the flock they need to show them more. If you tried this before and it didnt work and you cant provide more than 3 words to the issue then responding at all seems worthless.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=0000000000000002000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-11T21:04:17.815+0000) > > So sad. Its your view that causes issues in this world. Why we are shifting toward this country being run by companies rather than its government or people. Why the medical industry lets people die rather than try to give care to all. The indifference of the people who fight harder for the companies than the people they are supposed to be serving. How are you even making that leap, and how am I being indifferent, I'm literally telling you to fight with your wallet?
Funny it seems no one in this thread is believing you. Odd
: Please stop the Prestige Skin Bashing, this company is amazing lets compare Apples + Pears shall we?
Glad I could make you smile while your in the break room of a Riot building :P
Mogwai23 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=000000000000000200000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-11T20:35:52.976+0000) > > Clearly they are trying because this is still going to sell. > > I don&#x27;t even slightly believe that because people are still going to buy this. So sad. Its your view that causes issues in this world. Why we are shifting toward this country being run by companies rather than its government or people. Why the medical industry lets people die rather than try to give care to all. The indifference of the people who fight harder for the companies than the people they are supposed to be serving.
> [{quoted}](name=Mogwai23,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=0000000000000002000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-11T21:04:17.815+0000) > > So sad. Its your view that causes issues in this world. Why we are shifting toward this country being run by companies rather than its government or people. Why the medical industry lets people die rather than try to give care to all. The indifference of the people who fight harder for the companies than the people they are supposed to be serving. How things occur in this world matter and it matters greatly. Small selfish actions snowball and grow to give rise to greater ones. Its about doing whats right not whatever you can get away with.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sorostaran,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=00000000000000020000000000010000,timestamp=2019-01-11T20:33:20.256+0000) > > &quot;You can&#x27;t please every customer&quot; has never been a legitimate excuse to stop trying. > > This is the legitimate perspective being offered to Rito: Clearly they are trying because this is still going to sell. > Even whales who makes $220 an hour won&#x27;t buy something simply because she can afford it if you don&#x27;t make her feel good about the purchase. I don't even slightly believe that because people are still going to buy this.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=000000000000000200000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-11T20:35:52.976+0000) > > Clearly they are trying because this is still going to sell. > > I don&#x27;t even slightly believe that because people are still going to buy this. So sad. Its your view that causes issues in this world. Why we are shifting toward this country being run by companies rather than its government or people. Why the medical industry lets people die rather than try to give care to all. The indifference of the people who fight harder for the companies than the people they are supposed to be serving.
: RIOT Job Requirements please help
: I always laugh at threads that throw around terms like "money grubbing corporation". Of _course_ they're only doing this to make money! They employ thousands of people to maintain, create, and monitor the game we all spend so much time on. If they don't make a concerted effort to make money via in-game content, they go out of business. All these complaints about the expensive Aatrox chroma have me confused - what makes you think you _have_ to buy it?? I wouldn't spend $80 on any skin no matter how much I wanted it. I'm not even a little tempted to shell that much $ out for a single skin. The topic _should_ be "seriously Rito? I'm not buying that skin, nice try", not "OMFG boycott Riot for such a high priced skin!!!111oneoneone". Am I missing something?
> [{quoted}](name=ApothNinja,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ak7yINEJ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-11T20:39:41.036+0000) > > I always laugh at threads that throw around terms like &quot;money grubbing corporation&quot;. Of _course_ they&#x27;re only doing this to make money! They employ thousands of people to maintain, create, and monitor the game we all spend so much time on. If they don&#x27;t make a concerted effort to make money via in-game content, they go out of business. > > All these complaints about the expensive Aatrox chroma have me confused - what makes you think you _have_ to buy it?? I wouldn&#x27;t spend $80 on any skin no matter how much I wanted it. I&#x27;m not even a little tempted to shell that much $ out for a single skin. The topic _should_ be &quot;seriously Rito? I&#x27;m not buying that skin, nice try&quot;, not &quot;OMFG boycott Riot for such a high priced skin!!!111oneoneone&quot;. Am I missing something? Again your missing the point so please dont post. No one #$%#$%@ said they shouldn't make cash. If the cash flow stops the game stops. However, even when they first started and everything was WAAAAAAAAAAY cheaper they were making a KILLING. Its about getting fair prices not a free product. Everytime i see you people defend this company i wonder if you own y our own business and rip off your customers and thats why your so for it. Its insane how you and people with your I hate my fellow man mentality can rationalize things how you do.
: Please stop the Prestige Skin Bashing, this company is amazing lets compare Apples + Pears shall we?
: RIOT Job Requirements please help
work for a better company that treats its customers better
: We Should Just Stop Collecting
I agree, something needs to be done and riot needs their asses put into their places. I for one will never ever spend cash on this game for the rest of its time on this planet. And for those who love spouting riot is a business, why can't said business give back to the community. How about an example. The ceo of Nintendo was faced with a decision. They were losing tons of cash and had to make a change. We all know what riot would do. Fire half its staff and put 3 times the work load on the rest. Well the Ceo took half of his salary off so no one would get canned. Now thats a company. Those are proper business practices. And that is the mind set we should all be having. With the mind set of most the people around here half of Nintendo would have been laid off.
Bultz (NA)
: I feel like people are over reacting for these Prestige skins
Maybe. However, nearly every decision has shifted how things work toward having to drop more cash to get things. Perhaps slowly over time and in some instances more of a boost that others, but isnt showing signs of slowing and recent riot choices have shown they may be planing to ramp up getting at your cash even more. Nipping this shit in the bud now is better than waiting till your paying 100 dollars a regular skin. You have no idea how much of a profit they are making on this shit. Legal doesnt equal ethical. And indifference never equals positive change. Also as i told another lover of gouging companies. If you dont give a shit shut up and let people fight for lower prices. If you like paying more then buy the skins and again...shut up! This game is about the players. Not the multi billionaires who made it.
Madjack01 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=00000000000000020000,timestamp=2019-01-11T19:37:50.488+0000) > > I wouldn&#x27;t care, because it wouldn&#x27;t happen. The only way for them to lower the price of shit is to stop buying it, but people aren&#x27;t going to do that. > > How and why else would a company ever drop the price of something? There is definitely truth in what you say. I think though that that is only one half of the coin since the argument about prices being too high or practices that are about grabbing money without giving something of equal worth in return are partly subjective matters. There is no room for that subjective element in your point. For example not buying skins might feel worse than buying something where you feel that you got ripped off. Or let me interpret OP's thread in a different way. What could Riot do so that people are more inclined to feel good about their purchases? To feel that skins or whatever event stuff is worth the purchase. Lowering prices is one way of many to do that. Isn't that how sales work? People feeling like they made a good deal? Unfortunately I'm not well versed in the insights on these matters. Maybe a happy customer buys more? I dunno. In the end though you are right that it all comes down to what Riot believes will net them the most profits. Personally, I wouldn't bash these kind of threads as hard as you are doing because I'm not quite as certain as you that they might not influence either Riot or the community in some way.
> [{quoted}](name=Madjack01,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q6PQ1XAz,comment-id=000000000000000200000000,timestamp=2019-01-11T20:04:34.462+0000) > > There is definitely truth in what you say. I think though that that is only one half of the coin since the argument about prices being too high or practices that are about grabbing money without giving something of equal worth in return are partly subjective matters. > > There is no room for that subjective element in your point. > > For example not buying skins might feel worse than buying something where you feel that you got ripped off. > > Or let me interpret OP&#x27;s thread in a different way. What could Riot do so that people are more inclined to feel good about their purchases? To feel that skins or whatever event stuff is worth the purchase. Lowering prices is one way of many to do that. Isn&#x27;t that how sales work? People feeling like they made a good deal? > > Unfortunately I&#x27;m not well versed in the insights on these matters. Maybe a happy customer buys more? I dunno. > > In the end though you are right that it all comes down to what Riot believes will net them the most profits. Personally, I wouldn&#x27;t bash these kind of threads as hard as you are doing because I&#x27;m not quite as certain as you that they might not influence either Riot or the community in some way. It doesnt matter. The guy only concerns himself with matters that directly affect him and doesn't care whether a business's practices are ethical so long as they are legal. We are asking him to understand the concept of honor when he doesn't. He feels so long as he just yells the phrase "don't buy shit" he has simultaneously completely explained a situation in full and not sounded like he is just being abrasive. If what he says is true and he has spent the past few years as a freedom fighter for the monetarily oppressed, then he has lost sight of all that and is just jaded at this point. AKA a lost cause.
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