: I don't particularly hate playing league, but I don't love it either. I would love to quit league, problem is there aren't any other long-lasting games that appeal to me more than it. I just got Borderlands 3, beat the campaign and every side quest within like 4 days, farmed legendaries, did some end game stuff and now I feel like I'm just bored of it. Just not a satisfying enough endgame for me personally past the initial fleeting joy of blowing max difficulty bosses and elite enemies apart in milliseconds. The endgame grind isn't satisfying enough for me to enjoy pursuing better clear times. Was really hoping it'd be a game I could take a long break from league on, but this one ain't it chief. Now if Diablo 4 came out, I'd prolly be out of here much longer than 4 days. Sadly all we get is a mobile game. You all have phones don't you? :/
play some indie single players and stop wasting your money on triple A shlock my time burner has been starsector and rimworld
: Conqueror is going to get changed
KazKaz (OCE)
: What I love is when people think that by changing one minor rune that that's somehow "build diversity". I kid you not, there have been countless YouTube vids on "TOP 10 NEW WEIRD KOREAN BUILDS TO TRY OUT IN SOLO QUEUE!" and all that's changed is now they run Gathering Storm instead of Scorch. Like wow, one tiny difference is somehow build diversity.
if you want build diversity why don't you look for it
macspam (NA)
: The fact that you give only juggernauts as examples is kinda telling. Juggernauts and bruisers do have the most build diversity. Ezreal and kaisa are the golden children of ADCs.
i only play juggernauts and don't care about other classes I do know that a good handful of tanks can deviate into damage builds though other classes don't deviate because they don't *need* to. Theydon't need anything not already being given to them by their items.
Rioter Comments
: The champ that is the bane of your existence?
Anivia does not let anyone I like to play play the game, it sucks
: {{champion:86}} {{champion:122}} Both are simple to play Both have executions Both self heal and abuse Conq Both build full tank and still do carry level damage it's completely unfair.
lol you think conq Darius is anything, wait til you meet aftershock Darius
Terozu (NA)
: Warwick was what he made when he had people holding him back from going overboard.
and warwick is worthless, so I'm glad it only happened once
: > [{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EbQg2RAp,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-18T02:21:00.183+0000) > > I'm still not sure if that means he comes up with the mechanical concepts or the visual concepts, but... Either way, if Darius was his doing, he clearly wasn't very skilled. yeah, his other failures include {{champion:84}}'s rework, {{champion:157}}, {{champion:238}}, {{champion:142}}, and {{champion:143}}. When MoodyP said that other devs tried to imitate him that was a bull faced lie, most other devs work to avoid designs like the ones CT makes because of how volatile and unbalancable they are.
There are more fail-case designs by other designers than there are by CertainlyT. Jag, Solcrushed, Squad, and that's only on the current devs. We could spend a lot of time picking out all the old original champions who people still despise, too. Most of his designs are very well balanced and don't make frequent trips to the patch notes. Akali and Kalista are really the only exceptions here; as much as Boards might like to rage about Yasuo, he's not often a problem on his own. Denying CT's impact on the game with champions like Yasuo and Thresh is silly. Hes been a huge catalyst of change for the betterment of the game.
Rioter Comments
: can you point me to one useful thing you have ever said? i see your name alot yet everytime you say something and i just sigh irl at it....curious if youre getting fun out of being a douche or if its something you just cant help leaning toward 2 atm
I don't care. It's a very easy logical jump. "Im not having fun" naturally leads to "I should stop playing." There is no counter argument; you can stop playing or you can admit that you're addicted and proceed from there.
: Damn. People being passionate about something they care about is a mental illness now.
"I hate 99% of the games I play but I can't bring myself to stop even though I'm not having fun and nothing is keeping me from stopping." I love League and I've played it for about 7 years now and I still drop the game for months every year. I burn out, I quit, I come back to it and I have fun again. Yes, you have a problem if you hate playing and can't quit.
: In this whole year, I probably enjoyed like 10 games total.
Kuponya (NA)
: Wukong can't receive buffs before his rework because...
Because wukong shouldn't be viable until hes reworked
Rioter Comments
: What champions should be the face of a "fun meta" in solo queue?
Juggernauts and divers in top Assassins and nonutility mages in mid Anything in bot farm role that works Anything except for enchanter supports (yes, even tank supports) Jungle is always obnoxious regardless of meta so I'll take or leave whatever I get here Kennen deleted from game
bkgory (NA)
: Just a thought...Why do tanks do just as much damage as mages and assassins?
Because those champions have no defenses at all (or they might have Zhonyas when tanks do mostly magic damage) and are thus taking the full brunt of tank damage unlike bruisers and other tanks who have defenses and/or sustain to outlast the other tank Btw 4 of the champs you listed aren't tanks
: Today i learned 12 seconds CD for a 1.5s shield is perma shielding. Stop it boards.
? It's 8 seconds at max rank, reduced to 4.4 with full CDR. With a 1.5 duration that's only 2.9 seconds before she can shield again (assuming shield wasn't popped.) That's still lower uptime than what she used to have iirc but you're being disingenuous using the rank 1 CD on the spell she maxes second.
: Buffing the Strong and Nerfing the flexible.
oh yeah since people always point to rivens master's stats Sylas has double her pick rate, more than triple her ban rate and about the same win rate (all according to lolalytics) while also being a monster in organized play unlike Riven ? But hes just flexible I guess
: Buffing the Strong and Nerfing the flexible.
you are so wrong it hurts, Sylas has been god tier in multiple roles since release and Riot refuses to accept that hes just a shitty design the win rate obsession on this forum is ridiculous, look past 1 stat for once
: Remember Taliyah
She's exactly where she deserves to be
: Would you say there are any items that need reworks?
: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E68OOZvo,comment-id=0000000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-14T02:06:56.418+0000) > > Several juggernauts have burst damage patterns. Garen, Volibear, Aatrox, Illaoi, Darius if he flashes on your carry after popping his passive. > > They have a few examples of champs who have damage confined to short windows of assassination potential. This person says bruisers don’t have burst. And I was giving him the weakest example I could. (Fun fact, still pretty high for someone with one item)
Garen isn't what I would consider the weakest example; he dumps all of his damage on you with two spells before ulting. Unless you're saying Garen is shit, then you're right. Weaker example would probably be somebody like Yorick who has a lot of damage tied to summons
: > [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E68OOZvo,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T01:24:53.813+0000) > > Hur dur, just like how Juggernauts are bursting people down now I’ll use the weakest example to point out how much burst a juggernaut does now. Seeing as you like to ignore this. Garen with a triforce (current rush) lv9 Q> 345 damage (344.6 Incase you want to be technical which we know you do) Triforce proc> 192 Ult> average 650. 1187 with only the undodgeable potions of his kit. But yeah. Keep telling yourself juggernaughts aren’t bursting people.
Several juggernauts have burst damage patterns. Garen, Volibear, Aatrox, Illaoi, Darius if he flashes on your carry after popping his passive. They have a few examples of champs who have damage confined to short windows of assassination potential.
: Honestly fuck the cripple on it. It's 100% unnecessary. The skillshot is too fat and fast for immobile champions to dodge which basically means any fight with Fiora you'll have to fight with 50% attack speed.
yeah it's fun when she engages on me with QW and I can't even react to Riposte casting let alone move to dodge it, and then for 2 seconds I can't trade back unless I'm a pure caster
: The Fiora change is actually a huge step in the right direction
You're right, and they should trash Riposte for everything except it's defense value.
: I just checked your match history, and no matter who you play you ALWAYS run ignite unless you're playing JG. If TP is so overpowered, why don't you give it a shot? I personally think ignite and tp are on fairly even terms.
You think wrong. TP is just worse because soloQ players can't be expected to use it correctly
Rioter Comments
Wuks (NA)
: Send her top. I’m ready. {{champion:17}} {{champion:6}}
Nasakeki (NA)
: Then why pour so much money and time into it? Whoever told you it operates at a loss is lying to you.
Because it's worth the marketing. But LCS, on its own, operates at a loss.
Nasakeki (NA)
: Just delete Yuumi, please.
LCS operates at a loss
: Even though the bad design was mainly the free GA? The thing they already removed? How is his passive sustain any different from Vlad just spamming Q 24/7? Or Nasus just hitting minions? Its a fucking double standard because outside of Darius, they dont want any other juggernaut to be a juggernaut. You only need to look at Morde to see that.
Darius ain't even the most viable juggernaut right now though
: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QRy4EbIN,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2019-09-12T00:52:00.908+0000) > > blaming pro play and not the champion for being broken in the hands of people who play the game right I dont always agree with the stuff you say but i when i do i see you downvoted like heck x) Indeed, why should people blame riot for nerfing down a champ that is obviously being too strong in skillful hands? Proplay is merely a public show where everyone is made aware, doesnt take long before the mains and the veteran elotrain passengers get rolling if they hadnt already. Its exactly the same story as back when Urgot got insanely OP.
It's the same story of every shit champion design that is completely ridiculous when piloted by people who have a clue. This has been happening since at least Kalista and Braum but when it started happening to the busted tanks in S7 it shifted to "another champion RUINED by pro play!"
: Braum at 45% WR
i would rather supports that have counterplay get buffed
: Pro play ruins yet another champion? How long are we going to keep putting up with this?
blaming pro play and not the champion for being broken in the hands of people who play the game right
: Do you actually have fun playing as juggernauts or do you just have fun complaining about them?
I can have fun doing both. Mordekaiser isn't fun, so I want Riot to make him fun.
: "Eve isn't weak at all right now, but we're buffing her anyway" - Riot
: doesn’t this complaint read a bit like “why isn’t Morde overloaded Rito?” Though, his W could use more work.
Overloaded by what standard? He's about as complex as Mundo and just as big a stat stick. We've established it that we don't like those kinds of champions unless we want to use them to complain about new champions, so Mordekaiser going back to a design era that really doesn't hold up well in the long run is a mistake
: i would rather rito just remove the healing component from his W and put something else on him.
I agree. Morde should double down as the gigashield juggernaut and I don't think healing is a necessary part of his identity. I've been aching for a better recast W since relaunch too.
: Combine his W and Passive into one ability, adjust the numbers and give him a new passive.
I would prefer his W have a skill component. Something like, for the first .5 seconds he converts damage received into extra shield charge. Then you could add skill curve to him and counterplay for his opponents because his best case tank steroid is based on how well each of them play into each other rather than him just waddling into a fight and getting a huge shield off a Q and a couple autos
: There's not much to improve on champs like juggernauts since they have all the tools to be high damaging behemoths without ever having to think about dying in an instant. I'd argue that champions like Fiora, Irelia, Riven, mages, and marksmen require more thought into their gameplay because they're at a higher risk of dying instantly compared to juggernauts. This is because they don't have as lengthy or as outstanding defensive options that Juggernauts have. At the same time there isn't a huge worry of missing skills since Juggernauts cover a wider area with their attacks in comparison. This isn't to say Juggernauts are easy to play, but with how their cooldowns are structured (Having 1 spammy ability, 1 durability steroid/innate healing, armor/MR ignoring and shredding passives, single target/isolating ultimates, it's easy to pick up on the patterns to play them optimally.
Illaoi has a lot to improve on and has one of the higher win rate deltas for top lane overall. There's a lot of little things you can do in general and then a huge amount of things you don't realize are there until you do, and while they're not necessarily *vital* to her success knowing them for their situational value can win you fights you might not have. IMO while her play style is far removed from what other juggernauts she's the golden standard of how their skill level should be. Easy to understand with a lot of room for player ingenuity to shine through.
Keiaga (NA)
: Whats your elo? If youre not the best mordekaiser NA theres more to learn. I used him to clim from silver to nearly platinum in a month. I personally think theres a lot of depth to his ult besides "can i win?" I ult the jungler to keep him away from dragon and baron. I initiate a fight and ult the enemy tank/support right before i die just to heal off of them and continue to 1v5 at max health again. I ult the 20/0 master yi when he initiates on my team and run away just to give my team a chance to ace his
Diamond 2. At some point these people you listed will start buying QSS because anyone who you're going to be ulting SHOULD be, and you're left without much to do.
Rioter Comments
Rodsquad (EUW)
: What Ezreal Tier reworks do you want?
iiGazeii (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Zeyphel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dKx9YNNr,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-09-10T05:22:01.064+0000) > > "They are buffing his late game" > > They are literally increasing Q damage at max rank by +9 while nerfing Q's damage to minion from 100% to 40% and gutting his lane sustain. > > I had be fine if they remove the champion at this point. Nobody is going to play him anyways. > > Edit: +9 at max rank meaning the AD ratio buff is nonexistent. The damage to minions is going down from _50%-100%_ to 40% at all ranks. It already does half damage to minions at rank 1. It's not as bad as you're making it out to be. Any buff to a ratio is massive. It increases your scaling with items.
Wave clear nerf is a bigger late game hindrance than some extra champion damage lol
Kazekiba (NA)
: Whats even wrong with it? Not having your W on permanently? Oh no the ... wait its basically constantly up lategame anyway because lmao 1.6 second cd The E Change? its a one-point wonder now so that you never have to think about maxing W or E first. Simplifying WQE to be the objectively superior build order 100% of the time opens up Aurelion to be playable to more than 25 people. "90% of ASol mains feel --" Great. 23 players are upset meanwhile thousands can finally play a champ that's long been underplayed on a thematic and fantasy that by all rights SHOULD be one of LoL's most popular champs -- I mean, who doesnt wanna play a badass space dragon? Face the music; not even the pros are playing ASol anymore and if there's anybody who should be able to work with his kit, to spend the time practicing ASol, it's the best of the best of the pro players. If theyre not utilizing him, then his kit has major issues and if players want skins for Aurelion, then Riot needs to do something to expand his playerbase. These have been very positive changes overall, imo, and I really enjoyed playing the new AS! Especially with the chnage that his orbs dont dissipate when he's stunned. Heimer's turrets don't shut off just because you CCd him so why should Aurelion's stars
This sounds like a lot of cope and dancing around the fact that his play rate didn't move up at all for a change that supposedly "opens him up to thousands" as if the average player couldn't play a champion if they aren't smashing a button constantly
: > [{quoted}](name=Salamencę,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7odXPPoU,comment-id=000900010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-10T01:26:59.822+0000) > > Darius has taken ghost since season 5 > > People have always gotten phage before sheen on juggs > > Juggernaut ≠ Bruiser > > Bruiser: {{champion:164}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:24}} > > Juggernaut: {{champion:122}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:420}} > > Bruisers have innate mobility, juggernauts do not This Jump rope game of “ItS nOt a bRuIsEr iTs A jUgGeRnAuT” is getting old. They build the same fucking items and do the same job. :/
Illaoi most certainly does not do the same job as Camille rofl
5050BS (NA)
: You would not like that. a TON of her kits Power Points are in her E and so they would have to move it to something else. The issue with Illaoi is that "Running away" is all you have to do ever. Mobile champs do well vs her and she is STUPID ez to kite. Her E is her only way to do damage to someone who runs and her E is STUPID CRAZY EZ to dodge... Like you dont even need boots to dodge it
She throttles mobile champs, you have massive reduced choices for where you can jump around vs her
: On OP.GG, the top midlane champions are all assassins
Because its well established that the game is better when mages are worse. Riot should probably nerf them again just to be certain of it
Bârd (NA)
: Everything becoming a skillshot is a problem.
Zoe loses her entire niche as a flank shot mage with these changes. You're right that skillshot obsession is a plague but Zoe is a relatively balanced exception who's only real issue is how stupid her W is.
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