: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uKRyT26N,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-16T18:14:47.116+0000) > > towers do more in league than any other moba rofl > > What is it with NA and wanting to completely stagnate a game because of towers I feel bad for every other moba then. Cause our turrets don’t do shit. “Oh this renekton is diving you? I’m sure THIS MINION is the problem!”
Towers do everything they need to do.
Barkley (NA)
: Why don’t turrets do true damage?
towers do more in league than any other moba rofl What is it with NA and wanting to completely stagnate a game because of towers
Pika Fox (NA)
: Sorry, if i dont do the ADCs bidding nightblue3 will get his riot friend to ban me :(
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cqbZ25Up,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-07-16T13:49:06.628+0000) > > Sorry, if i dont do the ADCs bidding nightblue3 will get his riot friend to ban me :( It's not a ban just a vacation :)
JackMcCarry (EUNE)
: You'll never be as usefull as us marksmen players, let the REAL carry get supported loser.
> [{quoted}](name=JackMcCarry,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cqbZ25Up,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-16T11:21:50.715+0000) > > You'll never be as usefull as us marksmen players, let the REAL carry get supported loser. t. 0/6/2 ezreal
: PSA to juggernauts: from a support player. The fact that you are 60cs and 2 kills up **doesn't**mean I have to devote myself to your bidding, we are humans too and therefor, are allowed to make choices on our own, even if it doesn't agree with you. So, im going to give you ~~lovely~~ juggernaut players some tips on what to do when trying to communicate to another human being that is helping the team: >Instead of demanding we do everything for you, try asking us to be the focus of our help and we will happily comply if we believe it to be a good decision >Dont assume you know what items we should get, you play a completely different role to us and so we will have much greater knowledge of what we need to do to win. >Atop acting like everything revolves around you. Your 60cs lead and 2 kills wont be enough to 2v8, we will do whats best for the team, not whats best for you. If they happen to coincide, lucky you >If we are playing a tank, Knights Vow is a key item, no need to tell us to buy it. >Again, dont tell us to buy items for a role you know very little about. >We play support. Not jungle. Dont expect us to learn an entirely new role just to assist someone we will never see again. Additionally we are people. We will help the people we want to help. We dont like helping the egotistical top laner who believes he is better than everybody else simply because for 1 game they have a better score. Thank you for reading this guide. I hope it helps you realise that the world doesnt revolve around you.
> [{quoted}](name=Cind3rkick,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cqbZ25Up,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-16T11:18:29.888+0000) > > PSA to juggernauts: from a support player. > > The fact that you are 60cs and 2 kills up **doesn't**mean I have to devote myself to your bidding, we are humans too and therefor, are allowed to make choices on our own, even if it doesn't agree with you. So, im going to give you ~~lovely~~ juggernaut players some tips on what to do when trying to communicate to another human being that is helping the team: > > > Thank you for reading this guide. I hope it helps you realise that the world doesnt revolve around you. Not valid because I play top/support and I'm D2 there too lol ya played yourself
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: if only top laners had as much impact as a feeding adc
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cqbZ25Up,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-16T11:00:26.486+0000) > > if only top laners had as much impact as a feeding adc not all of us are sweaty tank players bubby
Rioter Comments
Yenn (NA)
: Was Diana's Q being sped up intentional?
Yes, and the funniest thing about it was that they listed this massive buff--making her Q 50% faster--as a bugfix
: As Voli is my 2nd most played champ, I agree. Ever since they changed his E from AP to % max health damage like 6 months ago, he's been in a great state. Just because he's not picked a lot means nothing. And he's not bland, just simple. His kit is no more "bland" than any other champion that came out around that time lol Although you could reason that he needs it because he's completely different in game then in his lore.
don't worry, like usual boards will ask for more reworks and complain about every single one of them riot will put Volibear in dumpster so boards can virtue signal about how bad reworks are, then ask for more (again)
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fl3GavZ9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T22:03:20.320+0000) > > players voted for Volibear because they've been propagandized into believing that he is bad The same old shit argument. You're implying people can't think for themselves. *** > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fl3GavZ9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T22:03:20.320+0000) > > the new lore is bad and hasn't made a good story since the bilgewater event Spoken like someone who doesn't read the stories.
: The rework isn't because he's underpowered / overpowered. It's because he's a fairly bland kit without a lot of depth on a champion with a weird thematic that doesn't match his current place in the lore in the slightest. Basically, it's a rework of *opportunity* rather than one of *necessity.* Volibear won't break anything currently, but he's also not living up to anything *close* to his potential as a character or a kit. The fact that he won the rework poll shows that a lot of players agree with that.
players voted for Volibear because they've been propagandized into believing that he is bad despite having been completely workable if not entirely slept on, similarly to Aatrox before his rework; to this day clueless idiots will tell you that he was a grief pick until conqueror and Rageblade magically made him OP the new lore is bad and hasn't made a good story since the bilgewater event I guess we would just like the opportunity to have a new broken VGU to complain about endlessly until dumpstered and then clamor at Riots feet for another
Rioter Comments
: i think tanks are better off in the jungle, and support. theyre fine top lane too, as long as the lanes are even early, and they get outscaled in 1v1 and split push by fighters later for having better teamfighting.
top lane tanks should probably have stronger early game somehow then if they are meant to be outscaled Or we could just bring back noodling and solve most every problem here
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: by reducing their damage and increasing their survivability id happily trade the ability to 1 shot a carry with ornn if i could survive more than 3 seconds in a team fight
I have been playing a lot of Ornn lately, I have good success getting gage third or 4th to help with surviving I know his shield was dumb to lane vs but you really notice how hard it is to survive in a fight without some multiplier like shields or damage reduction when you don't have either of them
: Feel free to start the new trend, I doubt it.
I would love to try it but actually gettin mid is impossible apparently, filled to second role or auto filled for the last 10 games I tried to get mid
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: some tanks are viable mid sion galio (at least was) you need lane prio mid tanks can't have lane prio (not good enough wave clear) so your jungler can't play without mid prio you are gonna put 2 roles at a disadvantage just because you don't want to play against a darius tanks need buffs not alternative positions
thing is that tanks in top need to be extremely powerful to be able to contend in soloQ meta So how do you go about doing that without repeating the problems of earlier seasons where tanks become better bruisers
Rioter Comments
: You know, posting the same wrong thing twice in a row doesn't make it correct. You still cited no stats at all, which means you are physically incapable of proving whether or not she's broken. Brokenness is based off of strength, which means if you never cite winrate of any kind even once, you cannot prove or disprove it. You're *trying* to say she's poorly designed, but you're not even doing *that* well because you didn't actually say why these things were bad, and your points aren't even correct. No amount of animation cancels will give you precision since speed and accuracy are two different things (There's a reason an X Speed in Pokemon doesn't make you more likely to hit and you need an X accuracy for that), nor is it instant even if you do cancel perfectly (fast=!instant).
What's accuracy got to do with it, none of her damage can miss except for R
: people call katarina a "low elo stomper"
Rioter Comments
: I don't want to be that guy, but as of late; tanks almost never take thing from the Resolve tree. I've seen people going electrocute much more often on tanks, and bruisers have been seen taking aftershock.
Can you show me that match? I don't really watch competitive so I must have missed the shift.
Rioter Comments
: It might be time to admit that (nearly) map-wide teleportation doesn't belong on a champion
I have issues with most of these champs besides Shen that don't involve their ultimates at all Shens only real issue is how early his ultimate becomes global, in my opinion.
: Are you feeling ok, you are becoming progressively more pro tank these coming weeks. Genuinely wprried about you {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
I always liked tanks, I played them before I swapped to bruisers and Sejuani has been one of my most played for almost 6 years now. I stopped because I haven't liked their gameplay directions since the Poppy VGU Most of them have become more reasonable after being balanced/neutered so its about time for a buffing
: You know...As much as I complain about you guys, you guys really aren't that bad.
: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wE2Z2WxY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-12T10:43:23.149+0000) > > You're right, tank items should have debuffs > > Sun fire cape should reduce enemy AD it should reduce attack speed.
We already have that
Groot4Love (EUNE)
: Multishot
Isn't that what Rageblade does already
: Half of his issues are because of his bugs and clunkiness Best rework evah because he's "fun to play against" xd
> [{quoted}](name=Abibyama II,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=p2QEMHzf,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-07-12T12:16:47.016+0000) > > Half of his issues are because of his bugs and clunkiness > > Best rework evah because he's "fun to play against" xd Love being kited by a tank because Bamis procced on me even when they missed all their spells lol
SEKAI (OCE)
: Warwick kinda had the mediocre fate (though I don't think he's dogshit) chosen for him when Riot decided to make him waste gold and stats when he builds AS.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=p2QEMHzf,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-12T11:50:18.027+0000) > > Warwick kinda had the mediocre fate (though I don't think he's dogshit) chosen for him when Riot decided to make him waste gold and stats when he builds AS. Warwick should be a hard scaling bruiser like he used to be. It would just be better for the game with the sort of kit he has
: Unfortunately, coming from you we have to just assume you mean you want to be tankier on juggernauts, with no downsides in place for them building tanks' items.
You know what they say about assumptions
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: are you trolling with your champion posts or what? he is an engage champion not a sticky one
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=p2QEMHzf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-12T10:30:43.376+0000) > > are you trolling with your champion posts or what? > he is an engage champion not a sticky one Warwick is a griefer pick
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: LOL literally the last thing tank items need is stats i don't think that friend should be your friend
You're right, tank items should have debuffs Sun fire cape should reduce enemy AD
Lubeth (NA)
: Is Kled sleeper op or balanced?
Kled is fine. You're doing good
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: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vh1rO04H,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-12T04:41:41.713+0000) > > that's not what a hard counter is Bypassing something a champ is reliant or making their normal play style highly detrimental vs someone? Or am i missing something?
Yes. That's not a hard counter. A hard counter would be something like skywrath mage vs pugna where you literally can't play the game. Pugna has this move called Curse Ward that zaps you every time you cast a spell based on the mana you spent (and he stacks them). SM is a spell spam champion with high mana costs. Basically any time he tries to exist or do anything he casts a spell or two and then he kills himself on Pugnas wards basically instantly. Having one tool removed from your arsenal by one champion pick is not a hard counter; you still have everything else.
Bârd (NA)
: Unpopular Opinion: something like the Core Stats from Dota and HoN would be good for League.
: Shield bash is a prime example of an unhealthy hard counter.
: > [{quoted}](name=nGio,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ThssZX5E,comment-id=0023,timestamp=2019-07-11T16:59:46.427+0000) > > {{champion:154}} > > I stopped playing ranked a couple of years ago when ruined my boy for those big LCS plays that I personally don't give a shit about. {{champion:3}} {{champion:106}} two of my favorites and they are so weak. It's sad how bad Zac is. I love Zac.
Volibear hasn't been this strong in years, what are you talking about
: Remidner that Akali shroud is now worthless against Lee Sin, Twisated fate, etc.
She already lost to Illaoi now that true sight lets her target Akali directly it might be a hard counter lul sad, obscuring was an interesting mechanic
Ralanr (NA)
: Pretty sure Ornn's brittle only does the HP damage when he procs it with an auto. It shouldn't be doing the HP damage when it extends the duration of someone's CC.
It does and it always has, it's just easier to proc it yourself
Rioter Comments
: How can u remove main thing from a champion?
nobody have a shit about his revive
: Why Even Pick a Tank Over a Juggernaut?
>The crowd control juggernauts don't stun anybody from 800 range or further, most of them have slows or at best a mild displacement >for the peel Juggernauts can't engage at all on their own. If they had no capacity for doing something when people get in their range they wouldn't be any good. >scale better into the late game No they don't, the crowd control a tank provides is invaluable to a team. A tank provides the cornerstone of a standard composition to become the frontline and has much better complements to (most) picks from other lanes. When it comes to what your level of play is able to do, there's really no reason to play a tank. Tanks depend on their teammates to actually work around them to succeed; low rank play doesn't do that. The value of a tank pick increases exponentially the better your team is.
: Buff/Adjust Illaoi ult
Illaoi is fine right now and possibly too strong. She doesn't need anything.
: Taliyah Passive feels really bad right now
champ is S+ tier in two roles and you want another passive
: it's probably because he suffers from an outdated and incredibly linear kit, he sees a lot of success in LCS and in SoloQ because of it, build MS/tank and go ult the carry I play him a lot (only because movement speed is like a drug to me and im addicted to it) and since it "works" without it being first pick first ban worthy i dont think riot will touch him any time soon. i dont have much recollection of skarner pre-juggernaut so i cant say if his previous adaptation is any better than his current self, and since ive played a shit ton of him post juggernaut my personal bias is gonna be the current adaptation
If he succeeds in LCS then he's not outdated
: by control mages you mean who exactly? lux is the only strong one currently
taliyah is God tier rn both mid and jungle "Current" has nothing to do with it, the only strong mages in the last 3 seasons are all utility and control heavy; orianna, syndra, taliyah, azir, aurelion, Viktor, Neeko, Morgana. classic mages have mostly been mediocre or terrible besides ryze (high elo only), swain pre-gut, and the ones who sit in support lanes like brand and zyra obviously there's an ongoing problem when a control mage being dethroned is simply replaced with another when was last time Annie was top tier? or veigar? Siege mages have been irrelevant since season 4, too
: and lux is strong with aftershock, because of aftershock lol {{champion:99}}
still top tier without it
Ralanr (NA)
: So by that logic, tanks shouldn’t be very good because they are always meant to lose in lane fights.
They don't always lose. I've been playing a couple tanks in top and the only lane thsts been miserable was Fiora. Even Mordekaiser I could at least duke short trades with early game. The job of a tank isn't to duel; your job is to prevent the enemy from snowballing and being a stonewall. That is your job as a lane tank in top. Top tanks are not bad because they lose in duels; they're bad because they get outscaled too quickly and because mages and divers now offer just as much or better CC than tanks
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