Sucction (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NKTIZhqN,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-30T23:06:14.083+0000) > > fixes her for the moment, until one day she inevitably gets get buffed back to what she is right now. > > weve been here before. she flips between broken op tier and shit tier with buffs and nerfs like this. > > how about some actual fundamental changes, like tieing her w to a mechanic with counterplay? like making her e not have a knockback unless the target connects with a wall? > > anything that actually adds something to her kit that you as her opponent can outplay, instead of making you only win by outstatting her. They downvoted him because he told the truth
In a Society of lie's telling the truth becomes an act of revolution~ George Orwell 1984
Eedat (NA)
: There are always good and bad match ups and that will never ever change.
Unless you rework a stat check kit to have counterplay
: Ok, I've never seen anyone complain about Vayne until they actually buffed her. She has counterplay. She's squishy(unless you build tanky but I've never seen any Vayne do that) and has pretty average range with none of her abilities outside of 550. The only problem is if her numbers are big. She still shits on Mord(which I assume you main from your name) but what do you expect? Pretty much every single one of her abilities counters Mord's immobileness.
> [{quoted}](name=MessyStuff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NKTIZhqN,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-01T02:18:56.507+0000) > > Ok, I've never seen anyone complain about Vayne until they actually buffed her. So your new then >She has counterplay. Wrong >She's squishy(unless you build tanky but I've never seen any Vayne do that) you cant burst what you cant see. So her being squishy is irrelevant once she presses R. > The only problem is if her numbers are big. The problem is her Design. Her Design Denies her opponent the option to counterbuild. Which SHOULD mean that there is meaningful "counterplay" aka some choice or action her opponent can do too mitigate her inherit advantage. That doesn't exist, only false choices exist. >She still shits on Mord(which I assume you main from your name) but what do you expect? Pretty much every single one of her abilities counters Mord's immobileness. That's not a Counter that's just a 1 sides stat check. FYI Morde botlane with the proper support shits on Vayne. Usually however Morde meets her during the Midgame where she has already achieved her lategame status.
: Is this HateDaddy's car?
Just an older player with the curse of perspective
: What if Book the character is the sentient book that thresh tortured?
It is within the realm of possibilities. And very well Could explain Mordekaiser and Yuumi's interaction.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: read again then if you're still not understanding then take some fresh oxygen outside and come back
Im sure she will get shat on in lane vs other marksmen, but still make Life for Melees in Toplane hell. So it is a no win situation for everyone. Number changes doesn't affect her inherit lack of meaningful counterplay.
Terozu (NA)
: The ability to instantly teleport anywhere within it's pages?
Bingo! What do we have for HIM JOHNY! A shiny New Upvote
: fixes her for the moment, until one day she inevitably gets get buffed back to what she is right now. weve been here before. she flips between broken op tier and shit tier with buffs and nerfs like this. how about some actual fundamental changes, like tieing her w to a mechanic with counterplay? like making her e not have a knockback unless the target connects with a wall? anything that actually adds something to her kit that you as her opponent can outplay, instead of making you only win by outstatting her.
Im sure the last thing vayne mains want is adding counterplay.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Vayne nerfs on PBE
Those are compensation buffs for an item nerf. Where are the actual nerfs
: lowkey it does solve a lot though, she cant just perma dodge roll on you until late game (when she is supposed to be strongest anyway). at the very least, its actually a pretty decent start because she has a longer window of being damaged.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Yuumi confirms Morde is a Cat ;)
Now why oh why would Mordekaiser want a sentient book. The possibilities.
: Just as a Question for Veterans Here...
I would repost it I would repost it 2.0
mack9112 (NA)
: Currrnt game state feels good to me tbh..
How long have you been playing the game?
iTaLenTZ (EUW)
: It is not evolving, this is already the end-result of terrible management during several years. League started evolving after the juggernaut patch midseason 5 into the cancer it is today.
Please i don't want to remember.
Infernape (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Enjoy Losing,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=t1Tjk0Au,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-28T18:30:54.821+0000) > > I think most gave up on this hope around season 6, the future was fantastic right up until the middle of season 5 League was great for me until the juggernaut patch.
> [{quoted}](name=Infernape,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=t1Tjk0Au,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-28T19:46:22.594+0000) > > League was great for me until the juggernaut patch. Dark times
XYGSYS (NA)
: When you lose a game in promos because your bot lane feeds their Draven 8 kills in 11 minutes.
cabbysb (NA)
: League is evolving into garbage
It is Garbage, we are trying to convince riot to bring it out of the trashcan. They refuse at every patch.
: 35 minutes without boots? How were you even showing up for fights?
They bring the fight to you when your Fed onMorde
: Riven dosent need a rework.
She needs one bad. For the Health of the entire game.
man of tin (EUNE)
: {{champion:82}} He probably wouldn't be very happy about it.
> [{quoted}](name=man of tin,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jv7lYWkg,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-04-28T16:44:09.052+0000) > > {{champion:82}} He probably wouldn't be very happy about it. Who Morde is now has little to do with who he was before. Either way we would be dead.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mordepool,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rqomhyhh,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2019-04-28T01:58:47.784+0000) > > Lie to yourself if you want, your just making it harder for you to have an Actual discussion. I gave you a reason you did not, so maybe the one lying to themselves is you.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rqomhyhh,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-28T08:40:35.583+0000) > > I gave you a reason you did not, so maybe the one lying to themselves is you. Lol no bud, Mundo is a Juggernaut. That classification was given to him by Riots own Subclass list. He lacks the CC required to be a tank.
Salron (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mordepool,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cHbGKBV6,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-28T05:43:20.416+0000) > > Funny since their AP values have dropped significantly over the years. And their average CDR values have conversely gone up as well along with new means of damage such as Liandry's burn being added for some of them
Well considering dot mages didn't get a keystone. I am not surprised they gave them something.
: What? Hashinshin has been saying that mages are broken as fuck for the last 2 years, and they indeed are, as mage itemization is the best in the game (items like hourglass/stopwatch, ludens, voidstaff are all broken as fk).
Funny since their AP values have dropped significantly over the years.
Rioter Comments
Syanite (NA)
: As a Male League of Legends player..
I am the proud father of 2 Kitties. Cable - my boi ( tmi im an Electrician) And Navi - Hey Listen, Hey Listen,Hey Listen,Hey Listen,Hey Listen,hey,hey,hey Pet me
Kai Guy (NA)
: Found a Fitting Arpad quote.
Humans cannot judge their own performance. Not a big surprise. Since in the moment we lack perspective.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mordepool,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rqomhyhh,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-27T21:59:05.953+0000) > > Lol Nasus and Mundo are not Tanks. Mundo is a tank you pick him only to front line and nothing else since all he does is tank damage.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rqomhyhh,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-04-27T23:11:28.446+0000) > > Mundo is a tank you pick him only to front line and nothing else since all he does is tank damage. Lie to yourself if you want, your just making it harder for you to have an Actual discussion.
: Riven and Yasuo
That would be a boring predictable movie.
: Tanks are tanking over the game!
Lol Nasus and Mundo are not Tanks.
: So do you guys still think its healthy to blame and degrade degrade yourselves for losses in league?
Just be Honest with yourself and recognize where you could have played better.
: He's not, there's literally 0 counterplay to a Vlad lategame
How is that any different from the Majority of the Marksmen Roster?
: How is vlad balanced?
He is a Low range mage. He has counter play. He has a windowed single target heal that is powerful off of champions. When his bar turns Red Back off. He is strong not unbeatable. Vs a Vlad requires you alter your build ( which in a lot of cases = your not going to snowball) so don't pick a snowball reliant champ.
: The best part about living in Canada?
Watch out for the polar bears though. ;)
: The Magical Cat, Yuumi, is a very uncreative title.
: Last time Yasuo was brought up they were considering reworking him to add counterplay but give him a bit more consistency They caved into outrage lul
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jq5z7Nfy,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-26T19:49:03.142+0000) > > Last time Yasuo was brought up they were considering reworking him to add counterplay but give him a bit more consistency > > They caved into outrage lul Nope actually they said they would rework him and add counterplay. But that the line up for Reworks is long and he's at the Back of the line. Stop spreading untruths
RR8Rosie (NA)
: The last champ you played with is now stuck with you during an apocalypse, how long do you survive?
{{champion:82}} He brought the Apocalypse and i will survive as an undead servant for a long time.
: " Hey Kids"
Yeah i needed to vent about that, didn't expect a reply
: Give us the report button in Match History.
Rioter Comments
Dasdi96 (NA)
: This zed hate circlejerk has to end.
Zed should fall off late. He fucking doesn't. That's the problem
Napoleon3 (EUNE)
: zed vs rammus full build.
You should check out Khazix he has the same problem
: Hey riot , who was the designer that worked on Mordekaiser VGU ?
CT's last attempt at Morde was Dogshit. He better not be in the same room as his design team.
: Well you're certainly not well informed. There's a reason Goddesses like hillary clinton, oprah winfrey and Anita Sarkeesian are infinitely more popular ;)
Hillary who? Ooooooprah oh yeah shes seems nutty but nice. Anita who? Oh that's right Sargon of Akkad mentioned her in a video remarking on her Dead youtube channel. Popular =/= Good (Or sane for that matter) Love to gaslight and go. Have a nice life i hope the redpill gets to you eventually.
: Respect is your word, not mine. I don't know why you are bringing (Projecting?) anything of the kind but good luck getting over it buddy!
Already over it Don't break your ego with your mental gymnastics there.
: Every woman is someone's daughter. We need to respect and appreciate all kinds, we have grown so much in mathamtics and science and medicine but we must not lose respect...
Respect is earned not inherited.
: Ahri needs a plump VU because it's body shaming how sexed up champions, (her ability is charm ffs) are all twigs with unrealistic proportions. Girl needs to eat a cheeseburger and riot needs to be more tolerant before they alienate ladies any further or do misogyny.
That's just your " in the Minority" opinion Ahri has a realistic body shape much more soo than say Reksai
: Ahri VU?
Your asking for too much
Praeyer (NA)
: The Buffs Gnar REALLY Needs
I was expecting a Blank page.
: Another patch on PBE
When the game is dead
: “I can’t move my character”
Tenacity = useless. What's the difference between without tenacity : Get cc'd and Die With Tenacity : Get cc'd and Die If the Result is the same ( which it is 95+% of the time) The difference is the Gold wasted on a Fucking USELESS Stat.
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