Nithke (EUW)
: Who is the worst designed champion in the game ?
Currently? {{champion:72}} This isn't a "who is most annoying." Skarner is a legitimately terrible champion. Even when juggernauts were op after the Juggernauts patch he was bad. Spires kill him, burned the corpse, scattered the ashes, and salted the earth they fell upon.
Eeszsa (NA)
: Coven Taliyah
holy cow is this what a job application looks like
: new client login is AWFUL
I gotta say I'm not normally with this sort of anger at the new but I'm more... confused than anything? There's a launcher for the launcher? Why? What does that accomplish? xD
dnsup (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Morgan le Fey,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=A0hlKl9O,comment-id=0000000100000001,timestamp=2019-10-07T20:03:58.166+0000) > > yeah that's really not how companies work y'all. > > [...] > > even if they pull people from League to work on TFT, they still have to refill those League jobs, unless > > [...] > > Divisions may interface due to share shop and loot (+ ARAM Little Legends), but it's not like > > [...] > > but as long as both are profitable > > [...] > (which are more complicated than that, before you start saying "yeah I was talking about scaling!"). Clearly your argument requires no hedging at all.
ambiguity? in my organizational policy? it's more likely than you think. no literally there is no such thing as discrete unambiguous answers in this sort of thing - ambiguity is the glue of politics. Unlike you, I do not plan on making categorical statements about inherently non-absolute subjects with no knowledge of the internal workings.
dnsup (NA)
: No, it pulls focus from other modes. Period.
yeah that's really not how companies work y'all. Bureaucracy operates positionally, not fluidly. In other words, even if they pull people from League to work on TFT, they still have to refill those League jobs, unless they are cutting back on League for unrelated reasons. Divisions may interface due to share shop and loot (+ ARAM Little Legends), but it's not like individuals are running back and forth between two different games. The existence of Sprite does not cause the Coca-Cola Company to stop investing or invest less in Coca-Cola. They're different products, with different teams, in different divisions. They interface in distribution, but as long as both are profitable they don't interfere with each other save perhaps in scaling problems (which are more complicated than that, before you start saying "yeah I was talking about scaling!").
Saevum (NA)
: False. Passive.
Standing in fountain all game ulting every 5s would quickly emerge as a dominant strategy.
: With The Crit Changes They Took Away TWO of Ashe's Main Starting Items
Yeah, Ashe has been kinda screwed by most of the crit changes since she was reworked. Her rework was designed for the crit environment in which it was released, but the world of crit has changed drastically over several iterations since then, and Ashe has not.
DearPear (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=BrightWîngs,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6iEjvWm3,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-16T03:58:42.037+0000) > > she CAN'T crit by normal means she needs to apply frost shot before she can she can crit It doesn't matter in regard to your thread, but that sentence is wrong. It's not that she can't crit by normal means, it's that her crits do not increase her damage but rather her passive slow. The damage gain when hitting a slowed enemy is a bonus tied to her passive, with a crit chance ratio, but is unrelated to the crit system itself. It means that {{item:3095}} will indeed let her crit with her first hit. But she won't gain any damage from it, just a doubled slow, which is not so bad actually!
Not terrible, but not useful enough to buy a whole item around when she'd rather have actual damage scaling.
: They really should revert {{item:3508}} like why did they change it was fine and champions built it but now no one builds it first and there is like 3 champions can that use it and only one is a adc.
Niche off-meta builds using Muramana -> Transcendence stacking for extreme AD love the new version, so I'm enjoying it. It's also theoretically great for certain champs who have super-mode or hard-engage ults and mix AAs and abilities. Heck, I can see Riven rushing it first item if it didn't have so much power locked up in mana and mana regen. Definitely bad for Ashe though.
Rester (NA)
: Your CDR will be capped at 80 either way. Not sure about ultimate hunter but I feel like it would be negated or changed depending.
It's a different stat, and it's multiplicative with CDR. So if you reduced your normal CDR by 80%, it would be 20% of its original, right? So rather than reducing your normal CDR by both, you reduce it by 80%, then reduce the *new* cooldown by 15% of the new cooldown (not of the original).
: CDR is additive though. Getting 40% means you actually remove 40% of the cooldown. Anivia's a good example. Her Q at rank 1 is 10s. Go into the practice tool, put a single point in it, and then buy CDR 10% at a time. It'll remove 1s per 10%, not less and less each time.
Pure CDR is additive. Ultimate Hunter is not the CDR stat, but rather a multiplier put on the post-CDR cooldown. That means the cooldown is multiplied by both 100% - CDR and 100% - ultimate hunter, rather than one 100% being reduced by both CDR and ultimate hunter. Math in case it makes more sense: cooldown_final = cooldown_base*(100% - %CDR)*(100%-%CDR_Ultimate_Hunter) so with 40% CDR and 15% Ultimate Hunter: cooldown_final = cooldown_base*(100% - 40%)*(100% - 15%) = cooldown_base*60%*85% = cooldown_base*51% ------> {since 60% = 0.6, 85% = 0.85, 0.6*0.85 = 0.51 = 51%} With 80% CDR, that'd be 20%*85% = 17% so for instance a 100s cooldown would be 100*0.17 = 17s, **NOT** 100-(100*0.15)-(100*0.8) = 100-15-80 = -5s
: > [{quoted}](name=Shablagoo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X53OfTWr,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-12-01T23:31:04.538+0000) > > Look I like how dmg isnt so high as well but thats just non-sense man. Varus was what ardent adcs were, and again people dont find it fun when only the adc can carry. If thats what you want the game to be again I would prefer this meta way more. Idk where do you get the ardent thing. There is no ardent in this video.
Varus is to that meta what the ardent ADCs were to the ardent meta. It was the hypercarry meta.
Arammus (EUW)
: one thing you forgot to add (thats hard to calculate) is the softlock. after i think 380 movementspeed, every bonus gets reduced by (i think) 30%. and if you have more than 440 MS it gets reduced by 50% BTW DONT QUOTE ME ON ANY OF THOSE NUMBERS thats what i remember from like 4 years ago or so
> [{quoted}](name=Arammus,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=44GRjTg5,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-01T09:01:34.264+0000) > > every bonus gets reduced by (i think) 30%. and if you have more than 440 MS it gets reduced by 50% Quoted :P Each bonus point is reduced to 80% between 415 and 490, and to 50% above 490. So if you have 425, you only get 413 (415 + 10\*0.8), and if you have 500 you really only get 480 (500 = 415 + 75 + 10, so basically 480 = 415 + 75\*0.8 + 10\*0.5 = 415 + 60 + 5). For those of us who actually like math, the formula is: {MS = MS IF MS <= 415 {MS = (MS-415)\*0.8+415 IF 415 < MS <= 490 {MS = (MS-490)\*0.5+(490-415)\*0.8 + 415 IF MS > 490 > [{quoted}](name=BlueVestGuy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=44GRjTg5,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-12-01T09:10:45.129+0000) > > The new celerity rune is like... a month old. This is general movespeed stuff, not specific to this rune.
FéliXXX (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Morgan le Fey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HIiJwgkc,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T02:44:08.550+0000) > > I looked back, and Stopwatch was added over a year after QSS lost the ability to purge Zed ults, so it definitely wasn&#x27;t in response. I don&#x27;t remember Zed being too scary in the interim, though. i think they removed the qss thing in s6 or 5 but id be ok even if they add the qss thing again but they buff zed
Yeah, QSS was midseason 6, Stopwatch was preseason 8. I just don't have a good memory for time.
FéliXXX (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Morgan le Fey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HIiJwgkc,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-30T22:07:36.769+0000) > > IIRC Stopwatch was the replacement for QSS&#x27;s purge in terms of Zed balance. There&#x27;s need to be some other form of early-mid item-based counterplay to make up for it. I could see increasing its cost while simplifying Zhonya and Stoneplate build paths so their components are less punishing to make up with it, though. I just don&#x27;t know _why_. first you dont even know if the stopwatch par is true 2nd you already have armor from runes defensive runes and summoners and {{item:3191}} {{item:3047}}
I looked back, and Stopwatch was added over a year after QSS lost the ability to purge Zed ults, so it definitely wasn't in response. I don't remember Zed being too scary in the interim, though.
Carry (NA)
: I feel like Zed buffs aren’t the way to go, the game has just left him behind. Seekers/tabi/hourglass are just too strong against lethality nowadays. His poke doesn’t suck, it just sucks nowadays because they made it too easy to spam spells on mages and sustain through everything. They should revert lethality back to apen or adjust the curve to make it stronger earlier and then nerf the champs that become too strong because of it (prob Kanye and Kha). And/or they should reduce the armor on Tabi/seekers/hourglass. Making it so easy for mages to negate lethality with boots and/or a very strong 1100g item is BS when mercs/hexdrinker are so inferior. And putting stopwatch in GA and Zhonya so that everyone can get an early Zhonya active without sacrificing much is dumb. Also, his WEQ harass combo still chunks with electrocute, making it chunk harder might make his early all-in and snowballing AIDS. The problem is just that they gave every mage insane poke with keystones and mana changes and then also gave everyone tons of sustain to combat it. In early seasons an Ahri used to not be able to spam her harasss much faster than Zed’s or she’d oom and her sustain was much lower. Now it’s just next level but Zed is the same. Or Kass lol. He actually used to be hard to farm with. Now you can just eat tons of poke and fleet footwork+taste of blood/RH make it not even matter. They just changed laning so much to make getting chunked so forgiving and poke so spammy that Zed’s no longer keeps up. I’d rather they undo that than just try to buff Zed up to this silly level of spamming harass and healing it off constantly.
Definitely don't need to reduce armor on Seeker's/Zhonya's - those aren't only about assassin balance, and it's important for mages to be able to last long enough vs ADCs to get their combo off so it's a matter of skill and positioning rather than stat checking. It could be worth adjusting the lethality curve, though. I also like the idea of shifting Zed's power into late-game, as late-game assassin is a niche that's more open than it used to be, as Kass is less hypercarry-ish than he used to be even at lower elos. I don't think snowball is the way to do that, though - more reliable late-game strength is more interesting and easier to balance around. I like the idea of the roaming/flanking passive, but I think it would need to be implemented differently so it would be stronger at high elo and lower at low (so, not countered by vision). %APen would also be useful maybe? The biggest idea I've seen here that I like is changing his passive. Nerfing his farm would affect low elo (especially pre-gold) far more than high, and it's sorta an awkward passive for a champ who has a big finisher ult anyways. idk, I'm just a low elo person who likes theory.
: I disagree. Winrate isn't a good measure of viability. Champions with a low skill floor very commonly have low winrates even when they are good because low-skilled players drag the win rate down more so than on champions with simpler kits. League of graphs lets you get a better picture of a complicated champion's state of balance. If you look at zed's winrate in NA plat+, it's higher than 52%. In fact, as ranked games played as zed increases in this parameter, the winrate rises until it peaks at 56% at 20 ranked games played.
Not exclusively. It requires context. Zed's high-elo winrate is more relevant, since he has a steeper difficulty curve, and it may be worth looking at his win rate by game duration too. It's not a situation like AS or release Taliyah where their winrates are absurdly out of wack due to awkward sharp learning curves (and importantly, learning curves are different than difficulty curves). You can play Zed effectively without being a main, as his gameplay isn't as radically different from other champs' like those two.
FéliXXX (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=BeatzBoyFTW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HIiJwgkc,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-11-30T14:59:13.606+0000) > > You&#x27;re promoting more Zed nerfs with that. no he is not, the game has a lot of counterplay to zed still i rly think stopwatch should be just a rune and not able to buy.
IIRC Stopwatch was the replacement for QSS's purge in terms of Zed balance. There's need to be some other form of early-mid item-based counterplay to make up for it. I could see increasing its cost while simplifying Zhonya and Stoneplate build paths so their components are less punishing to make up with it, though. I just don't know _why_.
Poske (EUNE)
: So we are just gonna assume Zed needs buffs XD. Faker said so? Am I right? Dont really respect that dude but whatever lets see what you have > > - E shreds 10% total pen per hit caps 30 or 25% BORING FREE STAT POWER > - deathmark applies armor debuff on target 10/20/30 BORING FREE STAT POWER > Poke Buffs: > - W cd lowered to 18 sec Reasonable, his W does have to long CD early but he has energy... Cries in upcoming Le blanc W nerfs.. If I am right it goes from **22** to 18 right? Perhaps less because W really has effective 13 second cooldown due to zoning > - Q buff > - Q does +50% more damage to minions or Q does full 80% damage passthough on champions but 50% on minions Dumb, Removal of counterplay > Lategame Buffs: > > - passive reworked to utility passive like gain movespeed while unseen based on %of bonus AD with buffs to his E and Q to make up for the lost dmg While unseen? IS HE KHA ZIX? does he have stealth? Doesn fit him and NO THE UNSEEN BLADE IS THE DEADLIEST DOESNT JUSTIFY THIS BAD IDEA > - Reaping passive stacks with a cap. 7 AD per kill caps at 70, targets who are higher level reap more, 1lvl difference = 14 ad reap. 2 lvl diff = 21 > - snapback delay lowered with each point ( 0.5 at 6 / 0.25 at 11/ 0 at 16 ) > - getting a kill with R lowers his cooldowns by 15sec LOL. Its to easy to get kills with R so I say no. Also Zed isnt supposed to be KHA zix/Pyke like resseter > - W Shadow&amp;#039;s E now counts towards W reset > - When zed ults a target he lands in the direction of his mouse, not behind his enemies Him teleporting behind a target is already dumb incosistent and stupid Since most characters turn when they cast rectilinear skillshot This suggestion removes even more agency from other champions when zed 1vs1s not like there was reasonable ammount of agency prior to your idea > Even faker says all zed can do in lane is just push waves!!! The same guy also likes building Lichbane on Ahri but doesnt like Building LIchbane on Le blanc (Despite being a le blanc main) IN a past she could have double proced it in 0.1 second for entire year of reworked Le blanc due to clone, [REMOVED BY MODERATION - ULANOPO], he was also rushing hextech revolver but never procced it with clone. Couldnt mechanicly handle Le blanc reworked Le blanc so he asked for a revert, His zed Was also subpar apart from 1vs1 where he had no idea what he did (Also what he did had some missplays / unessesary shit in it like the last dash) ALL I want for ZED IS HIS OLD Shadow placement back. Old Riot excuse of. ASSASSINS should be able to escape was jsut dumb because ZED** ALREADY **was able to escape via Second W if he played a teamfight correctly due to W Cooldown dropping I adored Zed. But he adopted this pussy playstyle with new R placement. Not to mention that due to new R placement HIS shadow is always at the edge of teamfight which overall reduces his effectivness **He should go back to landing infront of a target while placing his shadow on targets back (But this time with delay on R2)** THIS IS ALL ZED REALLY NEEDS
> [{quoted}](name=Poske,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HIiJwgkc,comment-id=0018,timestamp=2018-11-30T17:13:06.726+0000) > While unseen? IS HE KHA ZIX? does he have stealth? Doesn fit him and NO THE UNSEEN BLADE IS THE DEADLIEST DOESNT JUSTIFY THIS BAD IDEA It's a roaming and flanking buff, likely for split pushing. The biggest concern I'd have is that it would buff him at low elo _way_ more than high due to the vision disparity.
: > [{quoted}](name=Decahexatris1,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=lT4OE4LF,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-08-14T15:38:21.644+0000) > > There are uneducated potatoes on this forum that believe a parent bathing their child in a bathtub is sexualizing them. > > What more do I need to say. i actually read on some feminist publishing that fathers shouldn't be allowed to bathe their infant daughters a few years ago. it's fuckin wild
"feminist". Please put quotes around that. kinda tired of this whole "celebrity said something stupid clearly this is what feminism is about." Honestly.
: > [{quoted}](name=AugustHeatHaze,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=KrUI0TI0,comment-id=0014000000010000000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-07-18T21:05:17.797+0000) > > im not > > I never said I was lesser because im white but nice assumption, i simply try to acknowledge and work against racism in all its insidious forms and part of that is considering the possibility that I might be somehow racist If you dont belive others are lesser for their skin color then your not racist. Its simple as that. Anything else is just others trying to make you feel guilty for things you have never done.
I wish it was that simple. The problem is lessons and behaviors learned at an extremely young age from a society that itself also learned those lessons at a young age. For me, the problem is deprogramming - it's deliberately changing how I think of people and of the world, because I know the way I was taught to think is not what's right and good. It's watching how other people treat folks, and stepping in when explicit racists are harassing people of color, because as a fellow white person they're much more likely to listen to me. I don't feel guilty about it, but I want to be very deliberate about treating people well, especially knowing how much people accidentally treat me as lesser. A little awareness, introspection, and deliberateness go a long way.
: Saying that many men see women as sex objects is implying that many men are sexist.
This discussion is explicitly about issues related to sexism, and my post is a direct response to "most guys are actively opposed to muscular feminine women unless they have a fetish for that."
Aptest (EUW)
: > idk why so many guys I think you're talking about a minuscule minority of guys.
The post I was responding to was claiming: "Most guys see muscles as inherently unfeminine unless they have a fetish." If you have a problem with that, respond to the person who made that statement. And if it makes you feel better, #NotAllMen, but enough that it's a problem (as this thread plainly shows). It's not a minuscule minority, especially not in gaming circles. The minority is the guys who will openly say "women don't belong on the internet" to my face, but even those aren't super uncommon.
: > [{quoted}](name=Morgan le Fey,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=KrUI0TI0,comment-id=0014000000010000,timestamp=2018-07-18T13:21:46.722+0000) > > 1) Thus the problem. idk why so many guys can't just get over themselves and let women be people rather than assume they exist purely as sex objects. Not stating my opinion on this topic, but playing the sexist card is pretty low
: This post compared Akali, who has natural muscle tone for a woman, to Vaarass who is brimming with sexuality aimed at homosexuals and ladies. This post literally took a not so sexualized woman (exposed thigh and belly) to a hyper-sexualized man; and argued to make Akali more like Varus. That'd mean she'd wear nipple pasties with tassels. It may be hard to argue against the status quo I bet. Change can be good but throwing away content we all like upsets us. Not everything has to be a political statement or revolutionary. Finally I shouldn't have used the fat chick hyperbole. I could have focused on the legitimate desire to play as ripped guys and thicc girls. It's the same argument at it's core though.
In my experience, the uber-muscular thing is very rarely aimed at women. I know some women who are attracted to that sort of thing, but not nearly as much as men seem to think. Hyper-muscular in game design is generally a product of men's fantasies *or* a core misunderstanding of male sexualization outside of a specifically homoerotic environment (which raises all sorts of other interesting stuff to talk about, but that's just... so far off-topic, at this point). Yes, there is a desire to play traditionally gorgeous women, on all sides. The thing is that that's just already met by a lot of characters, while other fantasies aren't. And don't get me wrong - I think Akali could stand to be a little more muscular (especially her arms, which are bizarrely smooth), but overall I like the direction relative to the norm. I think that's part of the issue: It's like they almost did it, but stopped at the last moment and were like "nah, we can't give her real muscle definition, let's just stop there." They even gave her a great image angle for it. You can see the bulk in her shoulders and back, and a little bit in her right bicep. The new base splash has everything needed to show off a really muscular character except actual muscle definition. (bonus points for "Vaar-ass." I like that. xD)
: 1 most guys unless you have a fetish. 2 oh yea now that you mention it I was to stair at female gragas all game.
1) Thus the problem. idk why so many guys can't just get over themselves and let women be people rather than assume they exist purely as sex objects. Femininity is about men about as much as masculinity is about women. >.> 2) ffs read the thread. This has been addressed like five times elsewhere (including in the op) and I'm tired of typing it.
Jackom1 (EUW)
: Xayah's body is affected by magic, even more than the average mage in runterra, but I understand that it's easily and excuse to justify every other character. So aside from that, I'd actually say that she's fairly ok. She's not too skinny, not particularly sexualised. Sure, she's one of those characters where theme takes precedence over physical anatomy... but not by much. She and Rakan are definitely made to appear as a beautiful and crazy couple, but I wouldn't say that it's overbearing, and it takes over their other attributes. That is, being chimeric humans in whose bodies magic flows quite like blood, and are some sort of guerrilla fighters. Camille is part machine, and she's far from being unfit anyway. Of course she doesn't look her age, that's part of her "transformation". And would you imagine an actual old lady running around and fighting with metal legs? That's as wrong as wanting to have muscular characters that shouldn't be very muscular to being with. I'm not saying that they're perfect, there could've been made more efforts to make them look unique and robust. But they're still some pretty solid character designs. I can agree that Zoe is a weird case; not just for being a child, rather for being possessed form an entity that is hundreds of years old. Which is even more weird.
> [{quoted}](name=Jackom1,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=KrUI0TI0,comment-id=001000010000,timestamp=2018-07-18T07:25:00.891+0000) > > Xayah&#x27;s body is affected by magic, even more than the average mage in runterra, but I understand that it&#x27;s easily and excuse to justify every other character. So aside from that, I&#x27;d actually say that she&#x27;s fairly ok. She&#x27;s not too skinny, not particularly sexualised. Sure, she&#x27;s one of those characters where theme takes precedence over physical anatomy... but not by much. She and Rakan are definitely made to appear as a beautiful and crazy couple, but I wouldn&#x27;t say that it&#x27;s overbearing, and it takes over their other attributes. That is, being chimeric humans in whose bodies magic flows quite like blood, and are some sort of guerrilla fighters. > > Camille is part machine, and she&#x27;s far from being unfit anyway. Of course she doesn&#x27;t look her age, that&#x27;s part of her &quot;transformation&quot;. And would you imagine an actual old lady running around and fighting with metal legs? That&#x27;s as wrong as wanting to have muscular characters that shouldn&#x27;t be very muscular to being with. > > I&#x27;m not saying that they&#x27;re perfect, there could&#x27;ve been made more efforts to make them look unique and robust. But they&#x27;re still some pretty solid character designs. I agree, but they're still character designs that lead to model-like appearance. If a character's lore is literally "is a supermodel," that does not magically make them an exception to "every character looks like a supermodel," especially when the point that's being countered is "only one character in the last six years has that model-style 'traditional attractiveness' look that's ubiquitous among most female league champions." It's not a question of whether lore justifies it; it's a question of "is it a thing?".
Glîtchy (NA)
: Who do you hope CertainlyT doesn't get put in charge of reworking?
{{champion:25}} Her gameplay - her whole feel - is very measured and deliberate, with a slow cadence punctuated by carefully-timed and perfectly-placed spikes of power, rewarding patience and allowing her to draw more aggressive champions into fatal mistakes. If she was turned into a more frenetic and aggressive champion of the sort CT is known for, it could completely undermine her feel and playstyle. There are plenty of champions that benefit from that sort of treatment. The immobile goddess of slow, painful death is not one of them. If anything, she punishes those who are hard.
darkdill (NA)
: But why do we keep hearing her say "Summoner"? That term is weird.
It's a relic of the old lore, when players were "summoners" directing the champions in formal war-replacing contests to decide the fates of nations. Sona could only "speak" to the Summoners, due to the direct telepathic connection.
: That's assuming that garen looks at all good. Hell varus looks more like a man then garen.
I mean, yeah. There's not really any dudes in League that run along my tastes, though, and I know mine aren't the norm anyways, so I just gave the american stereotypical rawr square-jawed designated hero dude.
: {{champion:142}} Upon Death It's ok, beauty always has tears WOW YOU JUST GOT DESTRO- er uh nevermind Oh no. Where's all the color! Upon Kill Bam! That's what I'm talking about That looked fun. Ooh my turn. Upon Victory Yes! We did it! That was fun right?
I read all the others in her voice, but then suddenly part-way through it was that one annoying guy from Food Network and ... okay. {{champion:33}}
: Karthus, Jhin, Azir. I'd pay to hear their voices every game. Lux would be nice if they went the elementalist route, where she'd be motivating but not so positive it's agitating
omigosh yes Lux announcer might even measurably reduce toxicity tbh or maybe I have too much faith in people STILL I would actually prefer the hyper-positive version but apparently I'm weird and most people hate happiness so w/e
: > [{quoted}](name=Caidicus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hl7wvE1u,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-07-17T23:37:08.546+0000) > > Or at least the &quot;Knocked down&quot; effect Veigar, Poppy and Jinx has. > > Like put it on Karthus&#x27;s wall, put it on Lissandra&#x27;s ring of frost. None of this &quot;I can make this ability less effective because I have a dash&quot; What is the "knocked down" effect? I didn't know it existed.
It stops dashes and drops the dasher where they were hit (as opposed to most CC, where the dasher keeps going until the end of the dash and then has the CC applied).
Jackom1 (EUW)
: I was going to agree with you on some champions, while posting some of those who actually are realistically fit, but then it hit me... Do you have an idea of how a fit male looks like? I have a couple friends who do all sorts of sports, among which is historical fencing. They also hit a gym a lot, and guess what, none of the actually has visible ABS. You want to know why? Because the famous six-pack isn't something you develop simply by being fit and doing a lot of exercises, not even just by doing particular exercises. You need to have a very specific eating regimen, very low on carbs, and basically spends every gym session working on your pecs and abs. Of course, you have to eat a lot of proteins. But that doesn't make you generally atletic, nor able to fly around like a ninja. It just makes your abdominal muscles stand out more. Look instead at those who do strength exercises, those who practice fencing, martial arts, even parkour. Do they look ripped? You tell me. Now look instead at the male roster of lol, who are mostly warriors, in some way or another. They're all rocking a six-pack, which is pretty far from reality. Should we still go on about how female champions are skinny and sexualised, even after all the differentiation in body that the champions released in the last 3 years show? Frankly, the only notable exception is Kai'sa, but aside from her there is really no reason to complain anymore.
{{champion:498}} {{champion:164}} (Even though she's supposed to be middle-aged, she really doesn't look her age. While excusable given her hextech augmentations, still the same conventionally attractive archetype.) Which, with Kai'Sa, makes... 3/6 of the human female champions released in the past 3 years (the other three being Taliyah, Zoe, and Illaoi - and even Zoe is kinda a weird one, since she's a child and sexualization generally doesn't apply there anyways.) Do agree on the bodybuilder men thing though. That's pretty weird and kinda icky, especially given the increase in body image issues among men in recent years. I'd love to see more realistically-proportioned men.
: What's wrong with feminine women?
Nothing! But: 1) Who says muscular women can't be feminine? 2) If the vast majority of women in the game have the same sort of runway model-style body and generally feminine presentation, isn't that just kinda... boring? Imagine if almost all men in the game looked like Garen. It'd get old fast.
: The poppy being yoked thing is supposed to be so ridiculous it makes my point and you like it. Her hammer is magic. Your post is fine really but I’m tired of a vocal minority of gamers making developers design fat and ugly charactors. A few is cool but very few people want to escape reality and be a fat chick. The same goes for fat dudes hence why gragas isn’t that popular unless he’s op.
Pretty sure you need to reread the post. It explicitly says it's not about fat women. But also, by that logic, uh... Gragas? I'm not here to play some fat gross drunk dude. What's important to realize, though, is that _maybe other people are._ I'm pretty sure lots of folks would have problems if you saw folks railing against the introduction of fat or unattractive guys - the line would be something along the lines of "it's okay that we have some pretty boys, but not all guys have to be eye candy." Not saying it would be you, necessarily, but the net response tends to be along those lines, while when the reverse sort of thing comes up it's... well, just look in this thread. But yeah, in my experience, the folks who want this sort of thing are some of the least-vocal folks in "mainstream" gaming circles. The sheer mass of negative attention these posts get can be exhausting, and it keeps a lot of folks out of traditional gaming forums. It's a bit of a problem, actually, because it's only worsening the already-massive divide in gaming culture (which is already an impossibly huge thing to try to define like that, but w/e).
: oh get out of there with these excuses, the dudes are all allowed to be shredded, the girls should be too, the only time realism is an issue is when its used to justify not having something you don't want. GIVE. ME. SHREDDED. AKALI. Its not going to hurt you so why are you so opposed to it.
> [{quoted}](name=AugustHeatHaze,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=KrUI0TI0,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-17T22:36:34.915+0000) > the only time realism is an issue is when its used to justify something you don&#x27;t want. That's a big ol' mood. x.x
: Kindred lore wise and "Her" gameplay
Overhead MOBAs (League, Dota, HotS) are one of the few genres that I think can actually handle a double-character. Being based on RTSes, there's not really any reason Kindred couldn't be two separate (weaker) champions controlled by one player. It'd be hella mechanically complex, but I think viable. Note this is different from the Lost Vikings in HotS, in that both would have full kits and the controls would be deliberately tuned to make it easier to control both. There could also maybe be some sort of leash distance to prevent them from taking Lost Vikings' role, too - no double-laning here, please. >.> It would be difficult to balance, but it would fit the dual champion theme (unlike the current iteration) without being yet another transform champ. (alternatively you could go full Cho'Gall but that's another thing altogether and probably not ideal for these two) Just off the top of my head, Lamb would probably be an immobile marksman with low to moderate utility, while Wolf would almost certainly be a highly mobile diver (not assassin - he couldn't have nearly enough damage to be a remotely useful assassin while attached to Lamb). I'm guessing Lamb's kit would be focused on soft CC and a damage bonus vs people moving towards her (and penalty vs people moving away from her), while Wolf's would be more about %missing health damage and bonus damage vs people moving away from him (and penalty on people moving towards him). Their tactics would probably involve Lamb kiting while Wolf skirmished/chased, and I'm guessing wolf chasing hard and executing people who were running away while low? idk. It could be fun though.
Quinzley (EUNE)
: Genderbend Thread!
https://orig00.deviantart.net/14be/f/2015/038/0/a/lux_genderbent3_by_leirix-d8gznt9.jpg Lux :O By [Leirix](https://www.deviantart.com/leirix), found here: [https://www.deviantart.com/leirix/art/Lux-Genderbent-512267085](https://www.deviantart.com/leirix/art/Lux-Genderbent-512267085) https://img00.deviantart.net/5404/i/2014/101/4/2/genderbent_shyvana_by_dweynie-d7e3410.png From [Dweynie](https://www.deviantart.com/dweynie), found here: [https://www.deviantart.com/dweynie/art/Genderbent-Shyvana-446923044](https://www.deviantart.com/dweynie/art/Genderbent-Shyvana-446923044) https://img00.deviantart.net/5abb/i/2014/308/a/0/_lol__genderbend_garen_and_katarina_by_n1ps-d85ae7x.png From [ohnips](https://www.deviantart.com/ohnips), this amazing ship can be found here: [https://www.deviantart.com/ohnips/art/LoL-Genderbend-Garen-and-Katarina-492612477](https://www.deviantart.com/ohnips/art/LoL-Genderbend-Garen-and-Katarina-492612477) https://orig00.deviantart.net/1bcf/f/2015/135/b/9/ethereal_by_lain_joker_valentine-d8th56h.png I... have no words. :O [LainValentine](https://www.deviantart.com/lainvalentine) is _apparently_ amazing. I'd never heard of them before, but. Such art! :O Also is here: [https://www.deviantart.com/lainvalentine/art/Ethereal-533238137](https://www.deviantart.com/lainvalentine/art/Ethereal-533238137)
: The problem with that is that there's no room in Diana's kit *to give her* that treatment to begin with. Her rotation is too front loaded. The moment she hit-confirms Q, she R's onto you and toggles W, which all explode when she lands on you. Then she just R dashes on you again for more damage. Her hole rotation's insanely fast.
Dropping the W burst would go a long way towards fixing the problem. Dropping the damage and CD on her R would help some, too, pushing it more towards a stickiness tool than burst damage. Alternatively, dashing to Q marks could *reduce* the CD on her R instead of eliminating it entirely, preventing her from Q-R-Ring people down. With less burst, more durability, and better AP fighter items, she could become a much more stable pick, and a real AP fighter.
: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/a5/c3/11a5c3480e50710e93beb878e90ee81f.jpg This is one handsome Genderbend Vi cosplay. https://worldcosplay.net/photo/3085592 This Jinx cosplayer is just... {{sticker:sg-lux}}
> [{quoted}](name=Miku Append,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6usvOAc2,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2018-07-14T03:09:32.276+0000) > > https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/a5/c3/11a5c3480e50710e93beb878e90ee81f.jpg > > This is one handsome Genderbend Vi cosplay. > > https://worldcosplay.net/photo/3085592 > > This Jinx cosplayer is just... {{sticker:sg-lux}} Omigosh that's amazing <3 @Moderator + friend please don't hijack the thread to catch up. Discord exists. D:
: > [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dydy2w1z,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-07-13T20:03:17.356+0000) > > The Razer equivalent has worse programming power than Logitech, and that&#x27;s something I experienced first hand. > > Logitech also has better overall comfort IMO. I agree. I also hear Razer's gear tends to have a shorter life span.
> [{quoted}](name=EasternBladeStar,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dydy2w1z,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2018-07-13T20:11:44.288+0000) > > I agree. I also hear Razer&#x27;s gear tends to have a shorter life span. I mean, my last one lasted nearly a decade through multiple moves, and I'm not generally super-easy on hardware (and was even less so as a teenager). My experience doesn't cover all possible experiences, though, obviously.
Quinzley (EUNE)
: Genderbend Thread!
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: (Disability Help) Need advice on one-handed mouse setup.
While I'm abled, I use a Razer Naga to concentrate things on my mouse, as I prefer a long-stroke keyboard for typing and that + bad reflexes make keyboard commands slowish. One of the most useful things I've found is the ability to bind ctrl/shift/alt to mouse buttons, especially upper/pinky buttons (since that way your thumb is still available to enter commands). For instance, in your flash vs smite issue, your summs could be on the same key, but with different modifiers (if you can think you can remember that + the modifiers are far enough that you can't confuse them with each other). Also, I don't bind select at to a basic button at all. Usually, you have more time when you go to select something, so I prefer to bind it to shift-LMB and bind attack-move to LMB. That would free up RMB(2) for you as a modifier key (say, the shift that lets you use shift-LMB), immediately doubling the number of available buttons. Of course, this means your mouse has to have the option to bind buttons to keyboard keys which, while standard among high-end gaming mice, isn't universal. If it's not an option for your mouse, this may not be as relevant.
Nhifu (NA)
: Over-buffing the resistances would make a few tanks (unplayable now) actually SOMEWHAT viable.
Are you saying a few specific tanks are unplayable, or all tanks are unplayable?
Azadethe (NA)
: You know there's something wrong when even {{champion:555}} can waveclear faster than Morgana ;)
I mean, if you snowball and inexplicably rush {{item:3151}} you can match some other mages... until 20 minutes or so. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: How about the simple fact that Yasuo was shown such favoritism as to slip this minor buff in otherwise terse hotfixes. Or that crit was supposed to be nerfed... and hard nerfed all the champions who used it... which were NOT the strongest adcs ({{champion:145}} ) anyway.
Not exactly. It was never intended to be a flat nerf at all, never mind a hard one. It was intended to 1) increase damage against high-resist targets like tanks and 2) make all damage more expensive to access so ADCs start turning on later in the game (giving other lanes more time to react to a lost bot lane). It also has the effect of creating a *huge* spike when you get IE, so it's more important to watch ADC items and keep track of their gold than ever before. This is going to make other champions who snowball hard without crit relatively more powerful, but I suspect (hope?) Riot is waiting to see how strong they are before nerfing them.
Azadethe (NA)
: This post is constructive enough that I won't even try to rip it apart (rare right?) I would like to add though.... that unless there's an execute assassin in play, I generally don't take Zhonyas. A support Morg just can't afford it often and be viable, and it puts her behind on building CDR. I'm finding move speed and focusing on Q is far better than risking ult dives. Ults are usually better early game, or if you have some tank items. One of my favorite compromises on Morg right now is {{item:3311}} {{item:3174}} {{item:3905}} , and now {{item:2065}} (since it now feeds 20 more AP into Athene's...... making it a 80 AP item). That fills out the CDR, substantial AP, move speed, and can add a tank item if needed later, or {{item:3116}} /{{item:3165}} There's just so many ways to build morg, and I think the best ones have nothing to do with her ult. Ult is basically an Electrocute Trigger for me... to Q > W > R = they're dead because Electrocute just makes that last 60% of their HP disappear when the First R tick hits. I try to hit 2 others with ult when I can, so when the person who I'm trying to kill dies, I have a couple other targets tethered, which means I have an opportunity to set up a second kill on a post Ult Q. They simply can't run from me. And if Electrocute doesn't kill them, they are a tank. Which means they can't do enough damage to kill me. Ofc.... a rare game here or there needs defensive play, and then move speed is helpful too, but tanky probably moreso, so I scale back the move speed items and pick up items like {{item:3157}} or {{item:3110}} . I don't feel like Morg is a carry anymore.... too many ways to prevent her sustained damage now. That's why I rarely buy a{{item:3089}} . I will occasionally buy a {{item:3135}} just to help her W get through Second Wind tanks better. Ofc, I do get stuck playing her support more than Mid. as a Mid I might just go mage. But even then... I'm finding the ever present Bot goes mid paradox occurs and then mid/late game I'm fighting with an adc and Relic support for CS, which sucks for Morg's W. I remember the days where I could just 24/4/16 in a game with a Smurfing Draven who ends like 22/6/18, and all his deaths are me..... fun having games basically turn into 1v1's with 8 ants to squash. Electrocute is thoroughly broken. I can Electrocute main with Sorcery Secondary with Transcendence, and totally troll a team with Morg building {{item:3311}} {{item:3050}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3110}} etc and do just as much damage as an AP build, because the CDR gives me free AP, and the tankiness just carries vs carries. It's wierd to have a full tank morg kill a 2-3 item adc without resistance.... fun fun.
Oooh, that version of tank-ish Morg is neat. I'll have to play it to see how much I like it, but in theory it could be pretty amazing. idk about Electrocute into all lanes, though - I'd rather have meteor vs kill lanes so I can use my fairly consistent Qs to poke them down harder. The damage on Electrocute is a lot, though, and esp with the new rune changes this patch that seems pretty fun. Yeah, the carry thing fell off pretty hard. Even in TT, where until this past April or so I was able to carry to the point that I couldn't really play anyone else there (since Morg MMR was >>> all other MMR), I'm now having more trouble getting that same level of damage. Post-laning farming is pain. Her infinite push just doesn't stand up in the modern world of rapid waveclear. So that sucks.
Azadethe (NA)
: 1) omfg yes he can after the vanish is off. Part of the entire shtick of Zed's ult is to auto attack his target to help secure the kill. 2) PASSIVE: Casting your ultimate ability, after a **1.5-second delay**, grants Ghost ghosting and 100 bonus movement speed for 2.5 seconds. The movement speed decays over the last 1 second. Aka.... it's active AFTER Yasuo ults. 3) No he fin doesn't. He uses ult to isolate one target and stick to them. The very way his ult is built is to STAY in a fight, as auto attacking keeps it from deactivating. 4) Secondaries? 5) Once again..... Nimbus has a 1.5 Second Delay..... 6) Omfg you actually think Tryn needs Resolve? 7) Omfg I main Morgana. Just .... NO. Zhonya's is for bad Morganas or Assassin games. It is NOT for her Ult. Zhonya's anchors you and prevents you from guaranteeing people get hit by the second tick. Almost 70% of of Zhonya'd Morg ults fail to do anything but give her opponents easy post Ult skill shots. 8) Once again..... 1.5 second delay. 9) What are you even on? Part of Fizz's entire combo is to hit R, and then run at the slowed target and Trickster combo them to guarantee/finish the kill.
> [{quoted}](name=Azadethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p5WVPEBk,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-31T14:11:52.492+0000) > 7) Omfg I main Morgana. Just .... NO. Zhonya&#x27;s is for bad Morganas or Assassin games. It is NOT for her Ult. Zhonya&#x27;s anchors you and prevents you from guaranteeing people get hit by the second tick. Almost 70% of of Zhonya&#x27;d Morg ults fail to do anything but give her opponents easy post Ult skill shots. Another Morg main here! At least in low elo, that is... of mixed truth value. It's usually better if you can avoid Zhonya's, and it's certainly not a rush item, but it's still useful in mid-late depending on the situation. One of the really strong parts of Morg's ult is that even if it doesn't land the second tick, it still slows people + forces them to scatter. That's part of why it's such a good teamfight engage. I think the scattering effect is badly underestimated, and idk why - it gives your team a great chance at picks right at the start of the fight, as suddenly the entirely enemy team is completely out of position. It's much better to avoid using Zhonya's if you safely can (diving and immediately using it is really dumb unless they have some sort of untelegraphed burst or they have CC + your E is down), but it can be good to have depending on the game. It's not mandatory like it used to be, but it is still a legitimately good item. She's a squishy champ with a big, flashy PBAoE ult that makes her keep enemies close to her for a long time. That's a dangerous way to live your life, and Zhonya's helps a lot. That said, especially with Stopwatch being a thing, people who still insist on Morg rushing it really probably haven't played Morg enough to be okay at her since season 5 or 6.
: > [{quoted}](name=Morgan le Fey,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=kEjAAWjE,comment-id=0023000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-17T16:53:34.920+0000) > > Hun, I get that you want to just forget that we exist so you don&#x27;t have to do anything, but I have to actively think about whether or not I&#x27;ll get attacked or discriminated against on a daily basis. I change where I go based on it, it affects my ability to get housing, to get a job, to get education, to attend certain social events, or what have you. And I have it comparatively easy! I live in a major city, easily one of the top three most queer-friendly in the US, on a college campus, and I&#x27;m white, have money, and don&#x27;t have to worry about my family disowning me for being queer. Did you know that 40% of homeless youth are LGBT? That 50%+ of trans folks will attempt suicide at some point in their life? That we have a massively high rate of mental illness, partly due to having to deal with this BS on quite literally a daily basis? That black trans women are the single most-murdered group by percentage in the US? But hey, let&#x27;s just ignore that so you don&#x27;t have to think about it! > > Oh hey, maybe we should forget gender exists too? Get rid of all signs of it? No gendered bathrooms, no gendered housing, no gendered sexuality, no masculinity or femininity at all? I mean until y&#x27;all stop bringing up the differences literally any time I go anywhere or do anything, I&#x27;m gonna have a hard time sympathizing with anyone who tries to ignore why differences matter. If you think you are going to get attacked on a daily basis. Do something about it. Learn some form of self-defense. Buy a gun and train with it. Stop being a victim. Some of the problems seem self made. Who is preventing you from going to these social events? Is there a bouncer preventing you from going in or is it just you think that no one is going to like your so you don't go and blame it on some made up crap. Why do you let what other people believe bother you? How is it preventing education? Most colleges do care about your beliefs these days. All they want is your money. The only way that a college will deny your based on your beliefs is if you go to a heavily religious school. Even than these day most of them are lenient. Trans thing: You obviously dont belong to the opposite gender. No one assigned you anything. You are either male or female. Nothing you do is going to change that. You thinking you can probably is the reason people believe you are mental unstable. There is nothing wrong with being a more feminine male or a more masculine female. Doesn't change anything already set in stone. Difference does matter. Male and female have different roles. Based on characteristics of your body. IE males are more physical than females. Women are softer(muscle mass) and tend to use their brain more. I don't understand why people think that men think women are inferior. I am willing to bet 60-70% of males think that women are the great things created on this earth. Everyone has their roles in life, the arent always going to be the stereotypical roles. But women have one thing that they have the ability to do that men dont. On a side note- "That black trans women are the single most-murdered group by percentage in the US?" I dont know where you got this. I can't find it. But I call bullshit because murder rate are by ethnicity and gender by birth(because thats all that exist). Complaining about a murder rate and creating some bullshit law isnt going to stop the murder rate. look at Chicage for example/ one of the most strict cities in the country and has one of the highest murder rates in the country. anyway.{{champion:17}}
> If you think you are going to get attacked on a daily basis. Do something about it. Learn some form of self-defense. Buy a gun and train with it. Stop being a victim. I've done all of the things you just named. I know self-defense. I own guns, and know how to use them (but they're remarkably not-useful for most self-defense - use cases are low since most violence aimed at us isn't with guns, and loading time makes them pretty worthless in any time-sensitive situation). They don't just magically immunize me to being attacked, though. They don't change that I have to worry about it, think about it, and plan around it. Awareness is, after all, the biggest part of self-defense, but that takes time, it makes you change your plans, it denies you the ability to network with certain people, just a lot of little things. All self-defense does is somewhat decrease the odds that I'll be injured. > Some of the problems seem self made. Who is preventing you from going to these social events? Is there a bouncer preventing you from going in or is it just you think that no one is going to like your so you don't go and blame it on some made up crap. Survival instinct? You can't tell me you've never avoided going some place at some time because you knew it was dangerous. Certain organizations or environments are known to be hostile to trans people, because trans people have been physically assaulted there on multiple occasions. That includes a disturbing number of queer spaces. But there's other parts too. Maybe I'm going to be there for a long time or be expected to drink something and there's no gender-neutral or single-stall restrooms in the area. Maybe swimming is expected (not a problem for me, but it is for many trans folks; it's much harder to pass in a swimsuit). If an event is held in one of those places, I can't go. > Why do you let what other people believe bother you? Because those hostile beliefs can have distinct real consequences. Because bigotry in my profession (which is widespread - it's a fairly conservative/traditional field) creates disadvantage, as some folks don't really want anything to do with me or will respect me less. > How is it preventing education? Most colleges do care about your beliefs these days. All they want is your money. The only way that a college will deny your based on your beliefs is if you go to a heavily religious school. Even than these day most of them are lenient. Explicit discrimination is rare, it's true. While I have dealt with it (mostly from students), it's not common. It's actions and individual administrators that matter, though, not PR departments. All the pretty words and pro-LGBTQIA committees (which I'm often asked to be on, taking time away from actual work) in the world don't mean a thing if they're never actually empowered to do anything about it. Sometimes we give "recommendations" that are never acted upon, or make requests and are denied even a little bit of funding. It's telling that one of the only concrete wins I can point to coming out of all of these I've been on are requiring a few officials and one office to attend some pretty pathetic training sessions on discrimination (all the training in the world doesn't matter if your training systems aren't more significant than "here is what it means to be gay. here is what it means to be trans. don't call these people bad names.") and changing the signs on all single-stall restrooms to gender-neutral/unisex/family/whatever I don't care what you call it restrooms. I think you have the idea that these are imagined problems? But my problems are concrete. The head of a certain student-facing department is virulently anti-trans, and treats us distinctly worse than others, but it's difficult to prove it without anyone taking statistics among all the students he interacts. He never actually says that's why he's doing the things he does to us. Another administrator (who recently left for a job at a different university) was dismissive of and curt with trans students, black student, and sexual assault victims, while those who were none of these things overwhelmingly reported she was warm, friendly, and helpful for them. Again, though, all we have on these things is our word. Discrimination is notoriously hard to prove unless the bigot actively talks about it. > On a side note- "That black trans women are the single most-murdered group by percentage in the US?" I dont know where you got this. I can't find it. But I call bullshit because murder rate are by ethnicity and gender by birth(because thats all that exist). Fair. I don't have official statistics, only word of mouth. Since we don't appear on the US Census (and won't until 2030 at the earliest, since the current administration just removed gender identity from the list of questions in the upcoming census; lot of researchers are unhappy about that, since it makes their jobs harder for no real reason), very few researchers and institutions have the time and resources to gather extremely broad nation-wide information about us by hand. Those that do generally have other priorities. Regardless, it would've been wiser to leave that one out. --- The rest of it I'm gonna actively ignore, because you're actively hostile. I don't think I can really do any good arguing with that, as you don't appear open to education and this thread is too dead for the ensuing discussion to really affect anyone else.
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