: Will Teemo ever get reworked into something good? He brings nothing to the team.
For some reason he is just allowed to be pointless. IT's like the last original champ that has not been buffed.
: About competitive integrity in ranked
Won't work because the QD ladder wait time would be huge. DQ should be the replacement for normal que and ranked should be solo.
Eedat (NA)
: The worst part of being a Jungler when your team is behind....
Jungling when you have NO good laners is horrible. I was 11-4-3 as fiddlesticks yesterday with full kill participation. My team blamed me for the loss, when my mid kat had less damage than my bot supp malphite. Do not spend any money on this game.
: League ranked > Overwatch ranked
Their ranked has been out for a few days and league is like 6-7 years old. Consider that /remake JUST happened after this long. This game is literally tilting me just to type about.
Rundus1 (NA)
: You are the worst type of person. He used that money for good and a bit for himself. It didn't hurt him financially so no one was harmed and he got a good deal of happiness from it. I see no waste here.
if you think spending any money in this game is good in any way you are a pleb. Tons of legitimate charities could of used that money probably to save lives. But hey he gave some 1st world nerds some things in a video game. Get this guy his nobel prize.
: How I spent $7,110 on League of Legends! I don't regret any of it(MOVED)
What a waste of money. The real things you could of done in the world with that kind of cash. Complete waste.
Shuks (NA)
: Just Played vs 4 Man Dynamic Queue
Throw in a 10 minute que/champ select on either end and thats 40 minutes of waiting to play a fun game League of Legends
Lirik (NA)
: your comment tell us about how the new generations will works, just like you they blast on everything they can find and basicly everything is shit to them just like you bringing nothing to the table you just basicly wait for your death to come you are useless.
If you can tell me how many periods you failed to use when generating that run-on sentence, I'll take you seriously this one time.
Lirik (NA)
: league of legend is way overrated and peoples start to understand why its way too mainstream and make it worst for the community also. i remember in 2009 the community was since back then because it was just only real gamers who would have done research and be invlove in the game, now every lil kid or even non-gamer playing it because "its cool i play league too" yeah basicly its not only you alot of real gamers and real competitive enthousiatic person will move on and only a bunch of non appealing to play with, will stay. already the queue times as growth alot and the quality of games in generals as gone down by alot, nobody speaks anymore fearing the report, or nobody speaks because of premades, the states of the game never been this worst, i speak from experience since day 1 alpha league in 2008, peoples like to be blind and try to blame peoples like me for not liking something which has change that much so they will use stuff like ohh your grammar or your a negative person or w/e thoses dudes always comments, the reality is i am a living person and i played this game for 6 years so yeah i can speak about it and screw the rito fangheys who are not objective about their comment.
> [{quoted}](name=Lirik,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4oA2cAuO,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-06-29T19:28:01.030+0000) > > league of legend is way overrated and peoples start to understand why its way too mainstream and make it worst for the community also. > i remember in 2009 the community was since back then because it was just only real gamers who would have done research and be invlove in the game, now every lil kid or even non-gamer playing it because "its cool i play league too" yeah basicly its not only you alot of real gamers and real competitive enthousiatic person will move on and only a bunch of non appealing to play with, will stay. I think this quote sums up every stupid thing I have ever seen in the comments section of anything on the internet.
ßoy (NA)
: > How about you link some of the ranked games you have played where one of the champions you mentioned carried their team to victory. Since these are "viable builds" you must be seeing them all the time in your ranked games. Honestly, its 7 in the morning for me right now, I don't really feel like going through each one of my games and checking, and even if I did you would probably just deny anything I say, so. I'm going to be honest, they aren't in every game, but I can recall at least 5/20 games in my current match history with either tank ekko, tank fizz, or tank yasuo. > I personally hope I see these champions in all my games because they are garbage tier compared to what is actually strong right now and it is freelo to play against them. I'd link games where I stomped these champions, but I can't remember the last time I saw any of them building tank and doing anything other than getting carried by me. You have a very high EGO. But that's besides the point, your games alone do not represent the entire playerbase, and neither do mine. Considering we are seeing opposite sides of the spectrum, Its hard to say for sure. But the fact that it is being built in the first place is an issue in my opinion. > ps. 77% winrate on my main champ and I'm in gold III. I get 30LP per win and I skip divisions when I win promos because my MMR is that high, but I bet if I were challenger you would still make some excuse to try and defend your point. You have around 15 games on fiddle sticks. You really think that's an accurate representation of your win rate? Ide say around 50+ games is understandable. Also, I know the difference between someone in gold and someone in challenger. Don't tell me I don't. I respect people in diamond+, or anyone in a higher division than me. I would have respected you to but your huge ego and immaturity isn't really a value I appreciate in someone.
Well if humble = credible then enjoy all the roads and religious texts you'll be buying throughout your life as a worker-bee.
: Riot, Stop Giving Every Champ The Same Ult
Do you look for things to complain about?
ßoy (NA)
: > What trash elo do you play in? Currently in Silver, 1 division under you, with around 60% win rate. If you can't tell by my name, I main Kat. I Have no regrets. > fizz just got nerfed and it hurt him a lot sure he did > ekko got nerfed and it hurt him a lot. sure he did The thing is, although they got nerfs, their tankier state is still viable, and it should NOT be viable in any form. A tank is a tank, an assassin is an assassin, they shouldn't mix as one. > yi is actual garbage right now. Is he though? > akali has always sucked and I bet you don't even buy pink wards. Not sure if you took a break form the game but akali has been a fairly decent pick, and for quite a while was more often then not picked top as a tank. > The high damage tanks right now are hecarim skarner and voli. That's not what this board is about. You should try and be a little more mature, if you don't agree with my thoughts you can just discuss it rather than calling me out on rank.
How about you link some of the ranked games you have played where one of the champions you mentioned carried their team to victory. Since these are "viable builds" you must be seeing them all the time in your ranked games. I personally hope I see these champions in all my games because they are garbage tier compared to what is actually strong right now and it is freelo to play against them. I'd link games where I stomped these champions, but I can't remember the last time I saw any of them building tank and doing anything other than getting carried by me. ps. 77% winrate on my main champ and I'm in gold III. I get 30LP per win and I skip divisions when I win promos because my MMR is that high, but I bet if I were challenger you would still make some excuse to try and defend your point.
ßoy (NA)
: Can we just destroy this whole "Tank Assassin" thing please?
What trash elo do you play in? fizz just got nerfed and it hurt him a lot. ekko got nerfed and it hurt him a lot. yi is actual garbage right now. akali has always sucked and I bet you don't even buy pink wards. The high damage tanks right now are hecarim skarner and voli.
: Screw Dynamic Queue
If dynamic que forces people to stop using punctuation, such as it did with the OP, then we all must band against it. Damn you Riot!
: I just wanted to thank everyone at Rito for working hard on a Sunday night to bring our servers up
: toxic =/=overpowered And tbh I think Zed is actually pretty weak at closing games(once teamfights start) and is fucked hard by exhaust so.. > they can ALWAYS win because they play good at all stages of the game. Never seen a bad Zed carry a game, wtf?
You're in gold IV with a losing ratio. I don't think your opinion matters on this topic. Zed is perma-banned in korea because he is broke as fuk. If you don't think that's a solid support to my point then counter with something other than your opinion.
: Jungle is becoming the glorified support
OP is wrong. There are a lot of hard-carry junglers that are viable and in high elo they are preferred. People might WANT you to support them, but that doesn't you have to do it or that it is the most effective way to play.
: The only thing that I ask concerning the Assassin Rework
they should be ACTUAL high-risk champions, not "yeah you win lane for sure" champions
: You deserve to win if you are good at your champ
No. You deserve to win if you are good at the champ you picked at the right time and know how to play at all stages of the game. But in the case of people who are extremely good at zed, they can ALWAYS win. That is the definition of a toxic champion that was given too much power.
: A friendly reminder that Blind Pick is the worst way to intro people to LoL
what are you talking about? dynamic que has made entrance in to LoL so pleasurable at every level of the game.
: Zeds win rate is the 3rd lowest for midlane yet hes still at an 85% banrate.
If you are good at zed you can't lose. Stupid champion design since day 1. Riot is actually retarded.
Statikk (NA)
: Next Class Update - the Assassins
I feel like that will be one of the worst patches in the history of LoL.
: The Real Reasons Riot is Forcing Dynamic Queue
Don't spend money on this game. Every purchase I have ever made, I have regretted eventually.
: Whats wrong with Nunu?
He has a lack of damage. His Q and W have no meaningful scaling, do you can't really go AP on him... nevermind that you rarely get a good ult off. He is still a clutch pick against atk-spd based comps, like irelia top and jax jg.
: Don't Give In: We Want Solo Queue
#1 problem is the loss of competitive integrity on the ranked ladder. In season 5 being challenger may have meant pro play, now it may just mean you're a boosted animal.
Rioter Comments
Flagrock (NA)
: I just want to point out the fact that you complain about Riot's "stats" yet you are falling into some very big traps for statistical analysis. 1) **The sample is NOT random at all.** You even admit it's ONLY challenger/master players. So, by that statement, you admit you are trying to do a POPULATION distribution and look at that, which assumptions used for random samples CANNOT be applied. 2) **You are looking at the top .11% of the population.** These are the BEST players in the population and are the fringes of the population. You could even say they are "outliers" in a data set for how much different their skill level is compared to the rest of the population (think SKT skill vs. normal player). 3) **Your data set is TINY when you look at certain "samples" in your data.** A group of 45 games to tell you what the ENTIRE population does? Most statistical analysis samples require AT LEAST 100 to be big enough to not have HUGE issues with potential skewed data and making sure the confidence interval and standard deviation is not large. 4) **RIOT ADMITS THERE IS PROBLEMS IN THIS SMALL SUBSET OF PLAYERS.** So, you are simply proving that what Riot has stated is right? Ok, no one ever argued that Master+ was not an awful place for matchmaking. 5) If** you want to find out what 95% of the population is facing in Dynamic Que matchmaking, TAKE A SAMPLE OF BRONZE/SILVER/GOLD. **The majority of the population is in Bronze/Silver/Gold, not Master. As you can see with pick/bans and winrates if you look at a breakdown, different divisions have a vastly different meta game. This is not to say that the dynamic Que matchmaking is not broken. If we are going to get mad, let's at least use the RIGHT data and fix the RIGHT problems. It's really similar to champion balance: gutting champions does nothing productive because a new champion becomes an issue. Correct nerfs/buffs makes the game balanced, and CORRECT CHANGES to the ranked system will fix it. **tl;dr: The statistics are misleading. Dynamic Que could very well be that awful at lower elos, but let's actually use correct stats instead of trying to mislead people. Players complain about Riot's misleading stats, don't pull the same crap.**
The purpose of ranked is to climb and become one of these top players. That is what competitive PvP is supposed to be. This new system undermines the top of the ladder and therefore the purpose of ranked.
: Yeah, I have a degree that includes statistical analysis as well as study design.... voluntary surveys are (almost) the worst way to collect real data, so I won't be addressing the "facts" you have presented. You know what's super telling that most ranked players prefer solo que? The fact that there is not separate ladder for the two styles of play. If the majority of players LOVED solo-que, the way you are implying they do, then Riot could let the old solo-que exist and just kill the ranked-5s and teambuilder to make way for DQ... but, we all know that didn't happen. If MOST people wanted DQ, then the solo que time would be so high that people would just abandon it for the DQ ladder. We're not stupid and the dishonest condescension from Riot is really blowing me away after playing this game since season 1. First you tell us you're just testing something, then you guys double-down and say no more solo que and now you come and tell us it's what we really wanted all along. This is why I don't spend money on this game any more and I hope more people will do the same.
Oh and here's a video from a high level player talking about how amazing DQ has been for the top of the ladder, WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT OF RANKED RIGHT???? https://youtu.be/L-sPNcwEcYE
: > To make people who like dynamic queue happy, you have to make people who like solo queue sad. It does seems that way, right? So (and I'm just gauging community reaction here, because I'm curious) what do people honestly think about other more drastic solutions like a split ladder for solo played games and group played games in dynamic queue? Different LP, different rank, same queue (so you'd avoid splitting the playerbase and making queue times and matchmaking worse).
You make normal-mode the DQ ladder and keep ranked solo for integrity. Pretty easy stuff and then "everyone" is happy.
: Hey MuyAstuto! A decent number of players share your opinion, for sure. We were pretty confident that the people who just want solo/duo queue back wouldn't be overly hyped about the emblems. It's not exactly the same thing, right? The thing is, everything we're seeing tells us although some people are super mad that there's no solo queue (we read the threads after all), the game overall is still better if we let people group up in ranked. We did surveys asking players "do you like the ability to queue with any number of people in ranked" and in most regions the majority of players (over 70%) said yes, they do. ~10% didn't care, another ~7.5% sort of didn't like it, and the rest (something like ~7.5%) of players REALLY didn't like it. Those are rough numbers, but they're all pretty close. Someone on the dynamic queue team will probably come throw something at me if I'm off by a point or two. I have a solid guess about which group you fall into, and I actually feel where you're coming from. If I had to place myself in one of the groups, I'd probably land closer to the ~7.5% who feels like dynamic queue is slightly worse than solo/duo. But that's mainly because I don't like queueing up with more than one person, and I dislike being expected to put my rank on the line to play with a big group of friends who might be feeders (genuine apologies to my coworkers, I love you guys lmao). Most players who are really vocally against dynamic queue feel like it takes away from the meaning of their rank (since people could theoretically get a ranked boost from their smurfing friends). But the truth is that dynamic queue is working for most people, and we generally like it. It could use some improvements, but we think we're gonna get there. If emblems aren't making solo players feel satisfied, we'll keep coming up with other ways for people to express individual skill (spitballing here, but what if we showed you your rank on every champion? Like "you're the #3 Singed player in EUW" sort of stuff?). There's a lot of ideas we have, but we just wanted to try out this emblems thing first as a step in the right direction. Hope that addresses some of your concerns. We do wanna hear from you guys and adjust as we go. The changes we're pushing out now are just one step on the way.
Yeah, I have a degree that includes statistical analysis as well as study design.... voluntary surveys are (almost) the worst way to collect real data, so I won't be addressing the "facts" you have presented. You know what's super telling that most ranked players prefer solo que? The fact that there is not separate ladder for the two styles of play. If the majority of players LOVED solo-que, the way you are implying they do, then Riot could let the old solo-que exist and just kill the ranked-5s and teambuilder to make way for DQ... but, we all know that didn't happen. If MOST people wanted DQ, then the solo que time would be so high that people would just abandon it for the DQ ladder. We're not stupid and the dishonest condescension from Riot is really blowing me away after playing this game since season 1. First you tell us you're just testing something, then you guys double-down and say no more solo que and now you come and tell us it's what we really wanted all along. This is why I don't spend money on this game any more and I hope more people will do the same.
Piccman (NA)
: I think their point is that they don't the "Solo queue experience" to be the "CORE of the game." They want people to move away from that mentality.
They could easily restrict group play to normals and keep ranked integrity in tact, but allowing people to 'have fun with their friends'
: Rethinking Ranked Fives and Tuning Dynamic Queue
"The shift to dynamic queue is about reinforcing League as a team game" It is a team game in the sense you have a team, but not in the sense that the vast majority of players are playing with their friends in ranked. It's crazy that you are trying to pad the hurt-feelings of solo que playerss by offering them meaningless swag. Icons are useless, whereas solo que experience is the CORE of the game for these people. Very few people like the dynamic que change. You are slowly coming to grips with that and we can all see it. Your round-table made it obvious and all these band-aids only insult the people who hang on, hoping for solo que to come back. Ranked is a shadow of its old self. Shame.
RoMz (NA)
: This Is Why People Complain About Dynamic Q
High elo is a trainwreck now. I recommend smurfing only this season.
: Dynamic Queue Statistics for 61,977 Matches
Worst season of LoL since I started playing.
: Riot, do you have an answer for soloq players yet?
They are obviously going to try and make DQ work for the entire season. If you can't see that by now, then you are too stupid to explain anything to.
Rioter Comments
: I now understand why all of you players hate DQ.
I had a 4man premade in my jg nunu game a few days ago and I felt like I was not playing with 4 other people. I'd use pings and get seemingly ignored. They just did their own thing. Those games are really not that fun.
: People who like DQ are a very small minority.
I dislike DQ, but I dislike these hyperbolic arguments more. It is much more likely that the majority of players (who are casual) don't even know what dynamic que is or that anything has changed in the last few seasons. They know que times are a bit higher, maybe. Most people just hit the button to que up and don't pay any attention to how anything works.
: Swifties didn't need a nerf after the boot enchant removal
If Riot wants to give them a unique identity other than "move fast all the time," then they need to add another passive. Something like a duration reduction for slows. These should be the boots you buy specifically to deal with slows, but right now they are a weak alternative to mercs.
: Premade 1,2,3 Limiter Enabled
sounds awful. thanks for ignoring what we all really want.
: i hope not. play him ad with a trinity force or something. I don't want the troll 600 movement speed udyr stunning everyone in the map. when you build a sub optimal build it shouldn't work as well as his optimal build.
All those movement speed items are nerfed and R has no damage or scaling. Yes you can play tiger, but then what is the point of him being a champion that can "choose" between these two roles? He might as well not have an R button any more.
: Dynamic Queue - Updates
If I get put in support, I'm telling my team they can accept that I am jungle/double-jungle or they can dodge. I will not support. They can send their complaints directly to Riot Support and you can deal with it soon (tm).
Rioter Comments
: Nearly 600k points with Sion and you slap me in the face with this new "mastery" system
Who cares? Once you can hit lvl 4 mastery you can BM people with it and that's all it's good for anyway.

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