: Riven
if you're REALLY good with any of these {{champion:86}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:74}} {{champion:2}} she will cry xD. but hey she's fun to play.
Juice (EUNE)
: True, but that is more about game knowledge (champ match ups, powerspikes, itemization etc) rather than mechanical skill tbh
> [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8eehBGk0,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-14T15:19:21.320+0000) > > True, but that is more about game knowledge (champ match ups, powerspikes, itemization etc) rather than mechanical skill tbh there's some mechanical skill that i'm sure they don't know. e thru minions to escape..farming,proc sheen,proc phage,advanced hand of riste, e into w into q vs darius,flash q r,clock into darius ult at 5 stacks, w and flash defensive in tower..and furthermore as you said you cannot be good with garne if you don't know runes and items against counterpicks but that's another subject.
Juice (EUNE)
: God forbid an easy champ having >50% win rate. Pick rate does not matter when Garen is top 5 easiest champs in the game. It's not Azir who's gonna have <50% win rate till 100 games invested on him on average. Easy champ having high win rate is expected and should be the standard. Everyone can play him, if he is under <50% win rate that means he is SEVERELY underpowered.
> [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8eehBGk0,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-14T15:07:25.806+0000) > > God forbid an easy champ having >50% win rate. > > Pick rate does not matter when Garen is top 5 easiest champs in the game. It's not Azir who's gonna have <50% win rate till 100 games invested on him on average. > > Easy champ having high win rate is expected and should be the standard. Everyone can play him, if he is under <50% win rate that means he is SEVERELY underpowered. everyone can play him as they should be able to play most champs agreed. but can they master him? are they as good as riste with {{champion:86}} NO. can they even beat urgot,darius or even teemo without any experience on the champ. heck no.
: Garen has been winning lane against Darius and Teemo ever since he got tenacity and damage reduction on his W. The only champions that can keep Garen in check in lane are Yorick, Nasus, Fiora, Trundle. Maybe Tryndamere (since Garen isn't actually rushing armor anymore) but that comes down to the summoners.
> [{quoted}](name=Radiant Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RoAqZn3P,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-14T12:54:23.993+0000) > > Garen has been winning lane against Darius and Teemo ever since he got tenacity and damage reduction on his W. The only champions that can keep Garen in check in lane are Yorick, Nasus, Fiora, Trundle. > > Maybe Tryndamere (since Garen isn't actually rushing armor anymore) but that comes down to the summoners. only an experienced garen can beat darius and teemo. i would like to see you trying. xD
Neriticc (EUW)
: So everyone is crying that Garen is broken for one patch, meanwhile...
it's because these crybabies are champ and elo elitists...for not calling it champ racists xD.how dare Garen the "noobie" champ be winning against their edgelord skilllord yasuos(jk) but whatever champ xD
Juice (EUNE)
: Can't believe Riot is nerfing Garen
nerf Garen and Fiora that i play both so we can still own them :) and they stop banning/complaining. 60% winrate with old garen :)
: Get rid of the smurf
there's surely people who are diamond and will ONLY duo with other diamond+ players into silver and gold. if you want proof of that go to the league discord channel and go to LFG na. you can see that everyday basically. won't screenshot it not to nameshame.
: Get rid of the smurf
i said something like that before but had to delete the thread because people were against it :) but then again there's some ppl who like to create smurfs themselves and also sell accounts.
: Below 20% winrate
nah i was trolled in 7/8 of my promo matches.later had a 19% win ratio that i had to climb by myself into 54% win rate(now 52). so yeah it's wrong. the low win ratio person is the one getting trolled sometimes, no?
: Ok pantheon was fine needed some buffs but when riot added the crit to his q that was so fucking dumb. Pantheon before had to think about how to kill a champion but now nope. You get someone low you get a crit soooooo fun.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8npAA1TU,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-14T02:47:37.727+0000) > > Ok pantheon was fine needed some buffs but when riot added the crit to his q that was so fucking dumb. > > Pantheon before had to think about how to kill a champion but now nope. You get someone low you get a crit soooooo fun. the new pantheon is easier for me than the old panth.. that's just me. but you could not really lane against him without a cloth armor and 4 pots xd. now you kinda can.
: OP Champion Discussion.
{{champion:86}} this is my main i killed him with this {{champion:6}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:85}} and even {{champion:36}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:92}} who garen counters {{champion:82}} this thing i killed with {{champion:2}} {{champion:23}} and even the old {{champion:86}} who mord hardcounters. {{champion:80}} i killed with {{champion:86}}{{champion:58}} {{champion:2}} no excuses from me.
: This meta is just bullshit that you don't even know anymore what is op and what isn't op or just bad
i did kill {{champion:86}} with {{champion:6}} and i did kill {{champion:6}} with {{champion:86}} for me i do not care about what champ is op...champ is op? i learn it. champ counters another i learn them both and i win as either :) this should be the mentality.
: Lmao i'm a LAN visitant, sorry my english ain't perfect mate.
> [{quoted}](name=Goopy Amethyst,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=sixmaa4X,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-14T02:07:02.826+0000) > > Lmao i'm a LAN visitant, sorry my english ain't perfect mate. ok then...in spanish. mira el problema es que quieren encasillar al personaje como para novatos. entonces se ofenden cuando pierden contra el. pero es erroneo pensar que tan solo con usar un personaje ya se va a ser bueno. esos que dicen que es facil jugar con garen no saben jugar para nada. luego los ves con cualquier personaje y son malos. mira y los que son buenos con cualquier champ aprenden otro bien facil..
: This Garen changes are dumb.
This Garen changes are dumb. ??????? THESE Garen changes these...THESE!!!! the audacity..
Eedat (NA)
: No, what is clearly happening is you are just defending your main who is clearly OP because you want him to remain OP and don't want the nerfs that he obviously needs. Hence all the deflection and bias
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YtRUmiKz,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-13T14:57:27.559+0000) > > No, what is clearly happening is you are just defending your main who is clearly OP because you want him to remain OP and don't want the nerfs that he obviously needs. Hence all the deflection and bias nah i don't care about "op" because i can play any champ in the game. i just like to main garen and WANT TO PLAY HIM but now he is getting banned and i'm getting TROLLED IN ALL MY RANKED because of people like you who create this sort of hype. again i did not have problems in lane with garen before.
Eedat (NA)
: This is called deflection. Instead of addressing the point, you ignore it and attempt to deflect attention away to something else. It looks exactly like this. It's a complete shit defense that attempts to get people to ignore the topic and focus on something else The defense doesn't even make rational sense either. Even if Darius or Yi were busted OP (which they're not), that does not stop Garen from *also* being OP (which he is).
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YtRUmiKz,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-10-13T14:32:08.006+0000) > > This is called deflection. Instead of addressing the point, you ignore it and attempt to deflect attention away to something else. It looks exactly like this. It's a complete shit defense that attempts to get people to ignore the topic and focus on something else > > The defense doesn't even make rational sense either. Even if Darius or Yi were busted OP (which they're not), that does not stop Garen from *also* being OP (which he is). i do not care nor want garen to be op because YOU do not know how to play against him so i would still kill you. it's people like YOU that makes my champ to get banned when i did not asked for any buffs ty.
CHRo0MAX (EUW)
: Garen is blatantly the most overpowered/broken champ in the entire game
btw do you realize we garen mains would rather want people staying away from the champ and leaving us alone? part of the beauty of it was being the underdog hero against bullies?
: >Champ is ridiculously easy, he deserves high win rate. That's how it goes. 53% win rate on the easiest champ in the game is completely fine. That's not how anything works at all. Otherwise, what's the point in playing hard champions, when you can do the same as or *better* on a champion that takes far less effort?
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iMMWfRG2,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-13T11:47:52.103+0000) > > That's not how anything works at all. Otherwise, what's the point in playing hard champions, when you can do the same as or *better* on a champion that takes far less effort? they suddenly think they are as good as riste with garen. it's so ridiculous. nerf garen all u want i still was winning my lane... but as i said it means nothing when your bot lane went 0-15 in just 20 mins
: > [{quoted}](name=Muzen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YtRUmiKz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-13T10:44:35.046+0000) > > everyone always complained about garen but nothing is said about darius who can just touch people 5 times and they're dead. plus he can reset his ult and get pentas. what about master yi who can 1v5 your whole team and this has been going forever. it's just that people can't leave garen in peace for a sec. and btw i was ALWAYS winning my lane with garen before and after this buff BUT STILL i am getting trolled in every ranked match. so it doesn't mean ANYTHING. I say things about Darius! I get downvoted 800 times, but I say them. To be honest, I'd rather lane against Garen than Darius any day. At least you can get away from Garen. Escape Darius and you'll just bleed to death anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YtRUmiKz,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-13T13:13:18.240+0000) > > I say things about Darius! > > I get downvoted 800 times, but I say them. > > To be honest, I'd rather lane against Garen than Darius any day. At least you can get away from Garen. Escape Darius and you'll just bleed to death anyway. to be honest i hate laning against both of them but what i do is like to play them myself ^^ xD...well with kennen i had no problem vs darius tho
: So the game balance is actually South Africa's fault
why do people care about balance the issue is trolling? i mean you can always play those "op" champs yourself is what i mean.
: I hate the matchmaking system
they're making it so the better player HAS TO CARRY players with lesser skill for that elo. which seems ridiculous that people of obviously different skill level and/or experience are in the same elo? this is why i think many of them are just trolling or worse? imagine always training for hours and hours everyday,winning lane, beating gold players 1v1 then getting trolled all the time and every match you win is because you had to carry.
: Okay guys, I have a REAL problem with hard feeding ADCs.
yeah i think this happens everywhere. it just happened to me in silver and then at the end of the match the adc tell us she is new to the game. then she was asked why is she in ranked in silver road to gold? then she's like i'm bronze 2 but shouldn't she be in iron 2? anyways she fed like crazy and didn't even take heal...i'm not sure playing adc can save you from an inting team. i mean yeah i did carry a few matches as adc in my 2nd role but it doesn't mean you will climb this way, and if the sup is trolling ull even have a worse time than the other lanes.
CHRo0MAX (EUW)
: Garen is blatantly the most overpowered/broken champ in the entire game
it's because people want to PLAY LIKE BRUTES and just all in garen non stop. but it doesn't work anymore. i mean do you play like that against darius or mord? no. but people are lazy and just want to insta dominate garen as they have for ages. i think this garen should stay UNTIL ppl accept that garen also deserved to have an attack. and BTW this means nothing because i was also winning my lane vs all the counters before the buff. i did win vs darius,mord and urgot with the old garen.i dominated teemos and heimers. now with the new garen i'm just getting trolled a ton after winning my lane. so yeah GO AHEAD AND NERF GAREN IF U GET TROLLS OUT OF MY TEAM ty xD
QancerClown (EUNE)
: Every site shows that Garen is overpowered
everyone always complained about garen but nothing is said about darius who can just touch people 5 times and they're dead. plus he can reset his ult and get pentas. what about master yi who can 1v5 your whole team and this has been going forever. it's just that people can't leave garen in peace for a sec. and btw i was ALWAYS winning my lane with garen before and after this buff BUT STILL i am getting trolled in every ranked match. so it doesn't mean ANYTHING.
: Please don't queue me with the guy I just reported, who AFK'd in my game after screaming at me
that did happen to me a lot..so after you get trolled like that just close the client wait 15-30 mins or more. do something irl and then play again if you want. else the trolls might still be waiting for you to get lp. it does happen.
: i get 6 wins in a row. promo to gold. then
you got to promos to gold. i got to S2 then have been trolled almost back to s4 -_-
BradBen (NA)
: Garen buff was a mistake
he's lost a lot of tankiness vs adcs and now i just lost a match because i couldn't defend the base..
Muzen (NA)
: should you really lose lp or promos if you got trolled?
Muzen (NA)
: should you really lose lp or promos if you got trolled?
and why in the world are there diamond duo in silver flex?
Rioter Comments
: You shouldn't be able to demote if you haven't won after promoting
well i just got trolled in promos again! and winning lane for the 99999999999 time in garen vs teemo yes. garen vs teemo i win lane. then bot lane has 15 CS yes after laning and it's obviously trolling or "worse". then when i gave a hint i know what's going on she suddenly started playing like a pro and killing them xd. all enemies are lvl 13 they are lvl 15. im lvl 17 and of course they let the whole base get destroyed. this can't be real
Rioter Comments
: Why do bronze players feel the need...
they also have the need to be far mid THE WHOLE MATCH. risking everything to gain nothing xD
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: silver 3 . ok
not sure why this sort of thing is allowed and not banned from forums but OK!!!!
: So worrying about dodging is something you shouldn't focus to much on until about at least plat and up. well unless your whole team is auto filled and is picking champs they suck at or you have a team full of trolls but in some elos I guess that is every game huh. Or you are in a role you are very uncomfortable in. Dodging in promos is an auto loss so that sucks right but yea. A dodge is a loss of I think 3 lp and you wait out the 5 min timer the first time but don't do it again in the same day the timers get longer and if you do it too much you will get placed in the low prio que and have to wait lI believe half and hour to an hour each time you que up for 5 games and you have to play those 5 game or the timer doesn't go away. so about 2 to 3 dodges is fine no more than that.
well now i had 87 lp and i dodged a match i'm pretty sure we were going to lose as they all countered us. so i only lost 3 lp and still was within one match to promos. now i won last match and i'm 100 lp. so yeah i think that dodgin works in such case. :) and to that one with elitism cuz of the elo it will never stop.first it's iron then bronze now i am playing in silver next they are elitist to gold? it will never stop. xD
Zupmine (NA)
: LF Silver Top Laners; Serious Competitive Team (Night Schedule)
Current Rank: s3 Highest Rank (Solo/Flex):s3 i play top,adc and sup. from that list i play fiora,galio,a bit of irelia,jayce,nasus m7 who i don't play anymore,riven,shen,tryndamere,urgot,vayne,xin zhao in 3v3s and some bit of yorick. M7: garen,mundo,miss fortune, nasus,olaf. m6:tryndamere,ashe,jax,morgana,malphite,kayle,sivir,taric,urgot,fiora,volibear,shen well that's the full list https://championmasterylookup.derpthemeus.com/summoner?summoner=Muzen&region=NA Playstyle:jack of all trades, i play for high kda and survival with the focus on defending and destroying towers and dragon/baron objectives.
Muzen (NA)
: does dodgin work?
https://i.ibb.co/2ZDGW8w/possibleboost.jpg
Rioter Comments
: if you remove tt then consider replacing it with an other fast paced mode
well as i said to custom games. everything to custom games except rift and tft :P
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: If TT is getting removed, bring back Dominon
how about?? put them all into custom games and also nexus blitz so we can play it for fun. just remove them from ranked and don't give any rewards for it :)
: Apparently I'm a son of Lord DGAF
paladin as i knew i would xD
Rioter Comments
: Why are promos impossible?
they are not impossible but you have to keep trying several times. like if you try 2 to 4 times you should get it.
Speeedy (NA)
: Should not lose LP for a deliberate troll
totally agreed...i lost lp the other day to an anivia teamate that walled my teleport...i called it win trading and the reply was AS ALWAYS some kind of ELO elitism/racism.. that im a fucking bronze player xd...even tho i have 100 lp into silver and i can easily beat silver players in 1v1 but that's not the point xD.
: SHUT UP ABOUT THE "?"
you can disable the enemy all chat and also your teamates all chat@ INTERFACE in the game menu. you can also disable enemy emotes if you want.
: Alright but what in the ass is Mordekaiser
olaf and tryndamere can destroy him if played properly. he beats most top laners tho.
Muzen (NA)
: blatant trolling/win trading in my ranked matches.
watching the replay the anivia also cancelled my tp with her wall. really..i should travel to riot games in person asking for lp refund -_- that's how bad it was.
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