Oddlaw (NA)
: GO into settings and remove the option to type, and mute all at the start. If they run it down, just keep playing. learn to soft int to make sure games end faster.
lol this is so key. mute all, soft INT games you want to end ASAP.
: If you want to keep a clean record.
haha you got downvoted by all the SJWs. But yes, this.
Mowgli IV (EUNE)
: Joke, did I said Patch 9.11? Sorry, Joke.
the ease of playing rammus and amumu... they dont deserve to be this strong.....
TheGrot (NA)
: Spamming ff/gg/open first 10 minutes should not go unpunished so often
LOL no one stops playing after they get banned. Been banned 20x, dont care. Stop INTing early game and maybe I will give a shit to play it out.
: lol... 'hold hostage' - I'm sorry man, but if you equate 'playing the game you signed up for to the end' with 'being held hostage', then I don't really feel bad for you.
> [{quoted}](name=Eleshakai,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yEdET8EH,comment-id=000900010000,timestamp=2019-05-08T04:27:13.683+0000) > > lol... 'hold hostage' - I'm sorry man, but if you equate 'playing the game you signed up for to the end' with 'being held hostage', then I don't really feel bad for you. LOL! Glad you don't care to understand how I feel about it. exactly why I LOL don't feel bad for AFKing in a game where players like you INT.
: "People think wanting to FF is considered negative attitude and they'll report you for it but you won't get punished." That depends on how you approach it. If you spam a surrender vote at every opportunity and constantly spam chat with 'WHY NO FF?' and 'GAME WAS OVER TEN MINUTES AGO JUST FF' - then you might get punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Eleshakai,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yEdET8EH,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-05-08T00:34:48.659+0000) > > "People think wanting to FF is considered negative attitude and they'll report you for it but you won't get punished." > > That depends on how you approach it. If you spam a surrender vote at every opportunity and constantly spam chat with 'WHY NO FF?' and 'GAME WAS OVER TEN MINUTES AGO JUST FF' - then you might get punished. You are the epitome of why soft AFKs exist. Enjoy wasting your time, those you hold hostage can do other things while clicking on a few minions.
mack9112 (NA)
: But why even flame in the first place all you are doing is making someone feel bad and stroking your own ego. People know and understand when they are playing bad and if we want to support another generation of league players then we have to change our attitude.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PFcEozpt,comment-id=000200020000,timestamp=2019-05-08T00:05:48.319+0000) > > But why even flame in the first place all you are doing is making someone feel bad and stroking your own ego. People know and understand when they are playing bad and if we want to support another generation of league players then we have to change our attitude. So I dunno, some random guy responded to you, it wasn't me. But here is my response: Well that might be your perception and I understand it. But the reason I comment in the first place is to try and change the behavior. Like, if some player is 0-4 and 50 cs at 15 minutes, they are legitimately ruining the game for me. All I want, is for that player to change their behavior or show me some sign that they can change their play style.... OR just surrender the game. Either way I'm fine with it, no flame. BUT, and i mean BUT, if that player turns around and tries to blame ME for THEIR failures.... I know its hopeless and I really don't want to play it out. Its a direct sign that said player has no self reflection, and cannot see that THEY are losing the game for their team... and I just want out. Its really the whole point of the interaction for me. Can they give me some clue that they might be at least possess a room temperature IQ? Just throw me a bone, with a "my bad" or "yeah sorry".
: No. That's not okay, even in a 'hopeless game'. It is never okay to 'soft afk for 3-10 minutes'.
> [{quoted}](name=Eleshakai,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yVRgLiPV,comment-id=000500000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-08T00:52:39.320+0000) > > No. That's not okay, even in a 'hopeless game'. It is never okay to 'soft afk for 3-10 minutes'. I disagree. Its much easier and time efficient to "go next" once the game is down to a 1-5% chance to win. Its a literal waste of my time. Plus if it was EVER my teammates actually carrying me, vs them being the INTers, then Id feel different. Id give them the chance to carry me. BUT, if I am the only player with gold, they were soft INTing, AND I want to go next. Don't hold me hostage, its rude.
Kortekai (NA)
: You know, if other people are making a profit doing this, then I could easily see Riot taking the market by offering a legitimate alternative. Sort of like boozing and drugs, places that prohibit things they can't enforce generally see those exact things flourish... There's also plenty of long-time players who want to create alternate accounts, but don't want to worry about the grind from 1-30.
> [{quoted}](name=HybridVoidmaster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ckf70ZTb,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-08T01:15:59.465+0000) > > You know, if other people are making a profit doing this, then I could easily see Riot taking the market by offering a legitimate alternative. Sort of like boozing and drugs, places that prohibit things they can't enforce generally see those exact things flourish... There's also plenty of long-time players who want to create alternate accounts, but don't want to worry about the grind from 1-30. I dont get it tbh. I mean the market obviously exists for a reason. Riot just pretends like making something against the rules is going to somehow stop it.... it doesnt. Personally, I buy the accounts a few times year. Sure, they all get banned eventually, but for 20 bucks, I just dont care. Its worth it to me. I make plenty of money where the tradeoff in time is just worth it.
mack9112 (NA)
: Generally when you are encountering flamers every game the common denominator is going to be the root cause. In those situations it will be you. Maybe you don’t even realize some of the things you say or do are causing it but it’s never a bad idea to self reflect on yourself. Personally my flamer and troll count has been the lowest it has been in ever.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PFcEozpt,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-06T18:34:55.476+0000) > > Generally when you are encountering flamers every game the common denominator is going to be the root cause. In those situations it will be you. > > Maybe you don’t even realize some of the things you say or do are causing it but it’s never a bad idea to self reflect on yourself. > > Personally my flamer and troll count has been the lowest it has been in ever. This is definitely true. I literally ONLY get banned for flaming people who play VERY poorly. Im not saying one or two mistakes. LIke literally making game unwinnable (0-4 with 50 cs at 15 minutes for example). Funny thing is, you say something like , stop dieing and start farming. They will be like "jungler did nothing all game" and thats when the real flame comes ;^). meanwhile I'm 2-0 and have 2 drakes solo, and 100 cs. Its like hmmmm? Wonder why Im toxic ;-/.
Kortekai (NA)
: Alternative Measures to Tackling Bot Accounts
OR you know, make level 30 accounts available for purchase ;). Bye bye bots.
: And, from what I can understand based on those who have investigated his game, he did 3.1K damage in 30 minutes and warded **zero** times. He griefed this game and just got caught in a lie too.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yVRgLiPV,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T18:46:20.980+0000) > > And, from what I can understand based on those who have investigated his game, he did 3.1K damage in 30 minutes and warded **zero** times. He griefed this game and just got caught in a lie too. I get what you're saying. Like if hes legit trolling from 5 minutes. Im cool with this ban. BUT, if the game just snow balled out of control from misplays (hes a silver 4 for gods sake), he may not have been able to do anything OTHER than soft AFK. What a I mean by soft AFK: is legit waiting in base, because doing anything else is borderline INTing. We shouldn't be punishing for that, and the many here are suggesting we should. It's actually absurd.
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Ph03n1xb1rd,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yVRgLiPV,comment-id=0015000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T18:32:07.743+0000) > > Well, I would clearly expect comments like this from some of the people on the Boards. (Including you, who thinks that going 30min without putting a single ward is okay...) are you OK?
: > Like you said, he was banned for inting, not afk. The category that contains intentional feeding is a broad category that includes **all** types of griefing. Intentional feeding is not a category by itself, even though they use it as the **title** of the category in-game. Spending large amounts of time standing in places that aren't the base could very well be considered griefing. I know people don't like to hear this - but it's highly unlikely that any of these systems (chat-based or gameplay-based analysis) have any appreciable amount of false positives. We'd hear a **lot** of complaints regarding false positives if that were the case. OP's best case is to continue **professionally** dealing with support if they truly believe this was a false punishment for griefing. However, I like occam's razor. The answer that requires the fewest assumptions is quite often the most logical answer. The detection system is fucked and issued a false positive requires some pretty big assumptions - OP being tilted in game and griefing, **even a little**, does not. But I could be wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yVRgLiPV,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T11:56:33.847+0000) > > The category that contains intentional feeding is a broad category that includes **all** types of griefing. Intentional feeding is not a category by itself, even though they use it as the **title** of the category in-game. Spending large amounts of time standing in places that aren't the base could very well be considered griefing. > > I know people don't like to hear this - but it's highly unlikely that any of these systems (chat-based or gameplay-based analysis) have any appreciable amount of false positives. We'd hear a **lot** of complaints regarding false positives if that were the case. OP's best case is to continue **professionally** dealing with support if they truly believe this was a false punishment for griefing. > > However, I like occam's razor. The answer that requires the fewest assumptions is quite often the most logical answer. The detection system is fucked and issued a false positive requires some pretty big assumptions - OP being tilted in game and griefing, **even a little**, does not. But I could be wrong. This is the whole problem though. Sometimes your team is so far behind, that doing nothing other than farming cs safely is the best thing to do. This means things like: I can't leave my base so I have to wait for minions to crash into our base. This means things like: your whole jungle is dark and there is a 17/5 vi on enemy team====> should i go into jungle and grab raptors? NO. Should I engage their ADC? NO. There is literally nothing for rammus to do in this game except wait in the base!!?? But hey if he engages and instantly dies, report him for INT. If he goes into jungle and dies again, report for INT. If he doesn't go in jungle, report for AFK. If he doesnt engage, report for AFK. like the game is over, stop holding him hostage and vote yes.
: Well, to be honest I'm not in the mood to argue about totally obvious things. If you think this is perfectly okay, then be happy with it. Even do it in your games if you think this is a way to win, you will see. It should be crystal clear to everyone what OP did, but whatever :)
I mean I don't disagree it looks like he soft AFKed for 3-10 minutes.... but I don't see anything wrong with that in a hopeless game where teammates wont vote yes. Looks like game snowballed off mid and jungle failing some ganks, and it got to the point where rammus couldnt farm jungle safely OR gank any lane without just straight up INTing and so there is nothing for him to do? Further proof that when you're this far behind its safer to soft AFK then try and fail on engages====> incase your teammates abuse report function for "intentional feeding".
: I really hope you know, that number can not be accurate.
What is far more terrifying to me, is the thought that someone cannot deduce sarcasm.
: > [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Lqcc1Ex5,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-05-06T15:33:19.459+0000) > > This dude's proud of his accomplishments. I really am man, all these toxic players on this section thinking they wrongfully get banned is hilarious. Its the best when the people who i get banned say that i am going to get banned {{champion:28}}
> [{quoted}](name=BoRnToKiLL666,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Lqcc1Ex5,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-06T15:46:13.130+0000) > > I really am man, all these toxic players on this section thinking they wrongfully get banned is hilarious. Its the best when the people who i get banned say that i am going to get banned {{champion:28}} When people with no real power, finally get a tiny taste of power, the truth of their character is often revealed. You got people banned and that made you happy. Subhuman or human? ;^)
: bad at warding =/= not warding at once Also, don't forget the 3.1k damage as well :) So you want to say, that forgetting to ward and ALSO forgetting to hit the enemies is just bad luck, and not obvious grieving? :D
> [{quoted}](name=Ph03n1xb1rd,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yVRgLiPV,comment-id=00050000000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T17:30:54.008+0000) > > bad at warding =/= not warding at once > > Also, don't forget the 3.1k damage as well :) > > So you want to say, that forgetting to ward and ALSO forgetting to hit the enemies is just bad luck, and not obvious grieving? :D the dude is in silver 4 at the time of this match, so why are we surprised he doesnt ward? his midlane is 2/12. Maybe there was nothing to work with after a few early mistakes so that explains low dmg?
: > [{quoted}](name=Aggro yi,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yVRgLiPV,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-05-07T05:09:14.545+0000) > >The support team only tries to justify the punishment is correct. Yes
> [{quoted}](name=Pandemic Punch,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yVRgLiPV,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-05-07T05:16:03.209+0000) > > Yes +1
: Hey Riot, can you maybe hire Player Support that understand even the most basic fundamentals of LoL?
Listen here buddy. The automated ban system is perfect! Only in 0.0000000001% of cases does it EVER make a mistake. And if it does, a RIOTer will manually review and overturn the mistake. There is no way the system can fail, and if you disagree you are just toxic! ;^)
: For those of you worried about "false reports".
This is just further proof that players use the report tool as a means to "get back at" players they don't like for any of a million reasons.
: > [{quoted}](name=MyAccountStolen1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rAbftMtT,comment-id=000a0001,timestamp=2019-05-06T08:24:50.585+0000) > > get help. you dont live in reality. I don't live in reality because I don't treat this video game so seriously that I feel its necessary to childishly go behind my teammates back to look up their past in order to judge them negatively? Ya... that's the way this works. *nods* It's a video game. Just play. If you lose, who cares?
> [{quoted}](name=Eleshakai,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rAbftMtT,comment-id=000a00010000,timestamp=2019-05-06T14:15:51.371+0000) > > I don't live in reality because I don't treat this video game so seriously that I feel its necessary to childishly go behind my teammates back to look up their past in order to judge them negatively? > > Ya... that's the way this works. *nods* > > It's a video game. Just play. If you lose, who cares? LOL. You are the literal "for fun player" in ranked queue? Go play normals where you BELONG. This is supposed to be a competitive game-mode where people care about improving and playing their bests. not this bullshit, "its just a game for fun LUL". When I was a kid, we had this traveling baseball team. The point of it was that it was competitive and we were trying to win tournaments. Every weekend we would travel to play baseball tournaments and we practiced almost everyday during the week. We had one player, who was a joker, and never tried to get better, but also wouldn't get removed from the team because of the parents social circle. This "for fun" player ended up on the bench a lot because he was unreliable. Most of us liked the guy, but we sure didn't put him on the field in the championship game. Maybe you should think about how this applies to you, in a team game, in a competitive game-mode? Maybe ranked just isn't for you, and it isn't fair to your teammates?
: "Jungling feels like shit"
And yet everyone gets auto filled into this role, and not top. Guess everyone likes to get carried like u just did :^)
Kaisha (NA)
: 'How to cheat the system'... Or otherwise known as 'more proof that RIOT just doesn't give a sht'.
> [{quoted}](name=Kaisha,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rAbftMtT,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2019-05-05T22:53:27.802+0000) > > 'How to cheat the system'... > Or otherwise known as 'more proof that RIOT just doesn't give a sht'. More like, RIOT doesn't care to fix the matchmaking system.... so to avoid variance and unlucky downswings in MMR, just dodge obv garbage teammates.
: Ironic that you're saying to treat others like children when you're acting like a spoiled, entitled brat and looking up other peoples' stats to judge them before the game has even started... but you do you.
> [{quoted}](name=Eleshakai,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rAbftMtT,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-05-05T18:05:02.746+0000) > > Ironic that you're saying to treat others like children when you're acting like a spoiled, entitled brat and looking up other peoples' stats to judge them before the game has even started... but you do you. get help. you dont live in reality.
: A reminder to not use death threats
Not if I only say it to the people who deserve it :^)
LaceUpXX (NA)
: Been saying it since season 3. Throwing chat bans on "toxic" chat only isn't going to fix the toxicity problem in the game. But, nobody wants to hear it. Now here we are in season 9 and the game is by far more toxic because people only want to focus on chat related offenses.
> [{quoted}](name=CallMeTheSheriff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZiBBzwQn,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-04-26T20:16:01.209+0000) > > Been saying it since season 3. Throwing chat bans on "toxic" chat only isn't going to fix the toxicity problem in the game. But, nobody wants to hear it. Now here we are in season 9 and the game is by far more toxic because people only want to focus on chat related offenses. Agree 100%. I used to ONLY verbal abuse... never soft int or RQ. I'm bitter about the system so now I'm more toxic.... oh well. And yeah I get banned every so often.... who cares.. I havent bought RP in 3 years... and they will never get a dollar from me again.
: Report Feature Working Flawlessly!
Yeah man that's pretty tame. You might write to support.... although what about the other games? I've been banned like a dozen times and the only way I can avoid the automated system is to type little or nothing. System seems more sensitive when there is a lot of text in my experience anyway.
: Realistic Thoughts on Community Blaming Each Other
Just mute the annoying children. Unfortunately this game is infested with low IQ sub-humans. Players will literally INT, and blame you for their misplays. I just fullmute them and ping question marks on them everytime they make a mistake if they were harassing me for something asinine earlier in the match. That seems to get their little monkey brains very upset. They cant handle that you won't address them AND you point out their mistakes.
Shoé (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MyAccountStolen1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kzL1iZ4K,comment-id=0012000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T14:10:11.950+0000) > > IF you have a 4-0 junlger, and all 3 lanes are losing, your junlger is a god, and you are all trash. Period. Or the more likely scenario is the jungler is a K/DA player who isn't actually helping the lanes he ganks and is not taking objectives either.
> [{quoted}](name=Shoé,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kzL1iZ4K,comment-id=00120001000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T19:36:02.337+0000) > > Or the more likely scenario is the jungler is a K/DA player who isn't actually helping the lanes he ganks and is not taking objectives either. THREE LOSING LANES is the scenario. And you give me this r%%%%%ed response? smh.
: Do you guys actually manually review Tickets?
Not even worth wasting your time. Banned players just make new accounts.
: I had a bad game. You had a good game. You are carrying. I accept that.
Maybe the person who is hard-carrying eventually gets frustrated and makes a mistake because they are human? Maybe the player hard carrying you just 1vs3ed and his team lost a 4vs2? Maybe your team spam pings question marks on him? A lot of reasons a super fed player may not be able to carry.
Morbys (NA)
: This is where the problem lies, if I as a jungler completely stomp the opposing jungler, it doesn't matter, there is zero impact if my lanes are losing hard. Despite the help I give them.
> [{quoted}](name=Morbys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kzL1iZ4K,comment-id=000b00000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T05:58:09.367+0000) > > This is where the problem lies, if I as a jungler completely stomp the opposing jungler, it doesn't matter, there is zero impact if my lanes are losing hard. Despite the help I give them. Its just this season unfortunately. Terrible solo laners and terrible bot laners wanted jungler nerfs and got them. Now they can't figure out why their jungler can no longer solo carry them ;(.
cabarrop (NA)
: This is literally the reason I stopped playing jungled so much, these idiots keep killing themselves and blame jungled so fcking r%%%%%ed
THIS. EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. Just finished my redbuff, halfway through clearing golems, level 2 rammus ganks midlaner, (a yasuo ofc) who dies and types "jungle diff". Actually thought about logging onto another account at that point. Wish I would've. Midlane 0-3 by 4 minutes. bot 0-4 by 4 minutes. top lane 1-2. Laners are all so bad they create no gankable opportunities, create no counter-gankable opportunities. Game is just over at 4 minutes. Insanely fun game!
: > [{quoted}](name=Troy242621,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kzL1iZ4K,comment-id=00120001,timestamp=2019-04-15T12:59:24.065+0000) > > If I warded out the enemy jungler, warn everyone that the gank is coming and my laner still dies to it, especially multiple times, that isn't me being out jungler, that's my laner making my opppnent's job exponentially easier. > > Makes mine harder too because the response, gank the other 2 lanes, is very predictable. I always call out where I suspect the enemy is pathing but I can't force people to chill for 10 seconds. No one, especially me, is suggesting that the Jungler is responsible for keeping the Lanes alive, or that it’s his fault if they fail. What I’m saying is that the vast majority of Junglers take the path of least resistance in matches. They aren’t trying to win, they are trying to get kills and they use their stats as a sort of bragging right and execuse for trash talking the rest of the team. “Look at me, 4 kills, Im doing my job and you guys are just feeding” (Add profanity). Junglers are almost always the foundation for Tilt in a team and most often the toxic player in the team trash talking everyone at the first sign of trouble. Looking back at the last 60 matches I have played, I can’t think of one in which the team lost and the Jungler wasn’t throwing profanity at everyone, calling the noobs, feeders, demanding reports and just being all around nice guys. I don’t know why its like that, what about the position that creates this wierd “Im on your team but I hate you all” personage that Junglers have, but its so profoundly common, It feels like there is a “How to be a dick” class required before you are allowed to que for a Jungler in League... I honestly can’t explain it.. it just is. None the less, in League the vast majority of games aren’t lost by peoples hands, but by people’s mouths.
> [{quoted}](name=LordBadToo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kzL1iZ4K,comment-id=001200010000,timestamp=2019-04-15T15:36:26.023+0000) > > No one, especially me, is suggesting that the Jungler is responsible for keeping the Lanes alive, or that it’s his fault if they fail. What I’m saying is that the vast majority of Junglers take the path of least resistance in matches. They aren’t trying to win, they are trying to get kills and they use their stats as a sort of bragging right and execuse for trash talking the rest of the team. “Look at me, 4 kills, Im doing my job and you guys are just feeding” (Add profanity). > > Junglers are almost always the foundation for Tilt in a team and most often the toxic player in the team trash talking everyone at the first sign of trouble. > > Looking back at the last 60 matches I have played, I can’t think of one in which the team lost and the Jungler wasn’t throwing profanity at everyone, calling the noobs, feeders, demanding reports and just being all around nice guys. > > I don’t know why its like that, what about the position that creates this wierd “Im on your team but I hate you all” personage that Junglers have, but its so profoundly common, It feels like there is a “How to be a dick” class required before you are allowed to que for a Jungler in League... I honestly can’t explain it.. it just is. > > None the less, in League the vast majority of games aren’t lost by peoples hands, but by people’s mouths. IF you have a 4-0 junlger, and all 3 lanes are losing, your junlger is a god, and you are all trash. Period.
: So what about the times when you tell the jungler, "Hey, renekton early pushes kayle really hard and will be in perfect position for multiple ez ganks" .. Then said jungler NEVER comes to your lane once? You die playing safe under turret but the jungler never even looked at your lane. Still lanes fault right? shutup ... lol
> [{quoted}](name=xDralynex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kzL1iZ4K,comment-id=0022,timestamp=2019-04-16T05:59:27.353+0000) > > So what about the times when you tell the jungler, "Hey, renekton early pushes kayle really hard and will be in perfect position for multiple ez ganks" .. Then said jungler NEVER comes to your lane once? You die playing safe under turret but the jungler never even looked at your lane. Still lanes fault right? shutup ... lol Is this a story where you expect your junlger to somehow be level 3 when the solo laners are level 3? You guys asked for the jungle XP nerfs and you got them. Only a few jungler can actually gank level 2. This is what jungle nerfs looks like!
: Its your fault.
This is why ranked is garbage at the moment! Solo laners dieing over and over 1v1, before jungler hits level 3. Please surrender15! Community asked for jungler XP nerfs, now community wants under-leveled and no-gold junglers to carry them. LUL
: Is a bad forfeit reportable?
Nope this seems fair. If four people agree, and one doesnt. Thats the rules!
manolis201 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Red Mage FTS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3GH21RgI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-13T16:31:42.309+0000) > > I want to say /mute all, and if that does not work, someone said you can unbind your enter key thus making you unable to talk. - Easy out. > > Find out why it is you flame, and work on the reason itself. - signifigantly harder as it involves actually learning and curbing yourself. How to unbind my enter key plox tell me i need this! :(
I use razor synapse, they have a gaming mode, where once its enabled you can disable any keys that you want, such as "enter".
: I need serious help.,
search how to unbind enter key, and /fullmute all every game
: So, pardon the delay for getting these quotes from Tantram, I went back quite a ways in his post history (2017), and I decided to go a bit overboard and grabbed a litany of supporting comments. [From a comment string discussing punishment de-escalation](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/t4BNHARj-banned-again?comment=0003000000000000000200040000) with Deep Terror Nami; > Yes, accounts return back to 'good' state after showing sufficient 'not bad' behavior. > > ... > > More severe behavior and behavior histories take longer to get to a clean slate than a less egregious/persistent behavior. > > ... > > You can drop tiers, and you can get your account into the same state as an account that has never been punished. When I say 'clean slate', I mean the account is the same as any other player that has never been penalized, or a new account. [In (partial) response to a punished player](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/ht0GFcaX-14-day-ban-for-1-single-game?comment=0008) stating that they hadn't played for some months; > Not playing isn't a way of getting your account back in good status. [In regards to a punished player having received multiple chances](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/Xx69BGhJ-this-game-is-garbage?comment=00040006000000000000) before finally getting permanently banned; > This was the case here. It is possible for players to de-escalate in the penalty system by not exhibiting negative behavior (don't be a jerk). This is a case where the player constantly ping-pong'ed between neutral and negative behavior. [In response to a player asking if the "thin ice" probation period](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/EhE5pxie-is-my-probation-permanent?comment=0002) after a 14-day ban was permanent; > No, you can get your account back in good standing. Just avoid being reported for valid reasons. [In regards to the assertion of three months of good play being the average required](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/MIBGEN1J-the-issue-with-the-behaviour-system-is-that-it-is-too-black-and-white?comment=0005) for punishment de-escalation; > This is not entirely true. The amount of time it takes to be back in good standing is related to how severe your behavior was, what your last penalty was, how often you've been penalized, and you current behavior. Players who are having a bad day, penalized for behavior that is out of character for them and get a light penalty with be back in good standing rather quickly. Players with a history of poor behavior, those who frequently receieve penalties, and those exhibiting severe behavior will take longer. > > The 3 month mark that is repeated on the boards is related to a quote saying it takes the average penalized player 3 months to get back in good standing. [As well as giving that average](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/iLcIFjP0-how-permanent-ban-works?comment=000e) as a statement; > 3 months is the average amount of time it takes to get an account into a better status from a 14-day ban. It is not a fixed number. There is no magic 3 month check the decrements your status. It is entirely related to your behavior. > > The simple answer is to just stop being a jerk, stop doing the stuff that got you banned, and you will never have anything to worry about. [And a similar situation to the third example](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/jGxEaNGV-acc-banned-forever?comment=00020001000000010000) I listed. > Everyone has the ability to get their account back in good standing and move down the escalation system. That's what happened in this case. Get punished, be good long enough to get in good standing, repeat. It also depends on the severity of the behavior. Certain types and extremes of behavior can escalate more quickly. From this all, it can be determined that, following a punishment, consistent neutral/positive behavior (without valid reports being filed against you) can eventually de-escalate your account's punishment status, and that you have to actually be playing on the account for the punishment status to de-escalate; not playing doesn't help get the account back in good status, to ~~quote~~ paraphrase Tantram. So, if it was guesswork before, it certainly isn't now. :P
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Yes, I've read many of these statements in the past, as I am a player who gets frequently banned. It was nice to read them all in succession and generally think you have a good grasp of how it works. My only point to you, is that I think there is a time element involved. For instance, I've noticed when I play sparingly on 0 honor accounts, that I repair the honor more safely and in similar amounts of total time. Imagine the following: lets say I plan on playing 6 games/day for 6 days straight. If I play 1 game/day on 6 honor zero accounts, I can more quickly repair the punishment tiers on them, than I can if I play 6 games on 1 account every six days. My personal experience, but hey I could be wrong.
: > [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-11T22:13:13.962+0000) > > Riot has tried what amounted to a permanent chat restriction before - moreover, indefinitely scaling chat restrictions. Players under those longer-scale restrictions largely resorted to trolling and intentionally feeding as a way to be toxic, and in the cases that they didn't, those players largely still remained toxic with no sign of reform. > > So, let me ask you; would you really want a highly probable uptick in gameplay toxicity (trolling, intentionally feeding) for the sake of not permabanning players who go out of their way to be toxic over and over again, despite several punishments and warnings? > > According to Riot, the majority of players who get permanently banned do leave the game (which is the intended result), and the majority of those beside tend to reform (an acceptable, if not intended result), with only a few continuing to be toxic after the fact. > > But, this is considering that permanently banned players generally only make up 0.006%~ of the playerbase; typically, the first one or two punishments is enough to prompt reform from players who genuinely want to play the game, and, unfortunately, it has to be said that there are some people who are just beyond fixing. > > All Riot can really do in those cases is keep punishing them where applicable in the hopes that they'll tire eventually. Sounds like a "trolling and intentionally feeding" problem to me. Not a naughty word problem.
> [{quoted}](name=Pandemic Punch,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=00010006,timestamp=2019-04-13T00:07:08.301+0000) > > Sounds like a "trolling and intentionally feeding" problem to me. Not a naughty word problem. What is hilarious about this, is that players eventually do this as they try to find the boundaries of "soft-INTing" vs. detectableINT, because they aren't allowed to vent in chat. They literally admit they cause trolling with their authoritarian chat ban system.
: > [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-11T22:13:13.962+0000) > > Riot has tried what amounted to a permanent chat restriction before - moreover, indefinitely scaling chat restrictions. Players under those longer-scale restrictions largely resorted to trolling and intentionally feeding as a way to be toxic, and in the cases that they didn't, those players largely still remained toxic with no sign of reform. > > So, let me ask you; would you really want a highly probable uptick in gameplay toxicity (trolling, intentionally feeding) for the sake of not permabanning players who go out of their way to be toxic over and over again, despite several punishments and warnings? > > According to Riot, the majority of players who get permanently banned do leave the game (which is the intended result), and the majority of those beside tend to reform (an acceptable, if not intended result), with only a few continuing to be toxic after the fact. > > But, this is considering that permanently banned players generally only make up 0.006%~ of the playerbase; typically, the first one or two punishments is enough to prompt reform from players who genuinely want to play the game, and, unfortunately, it has to be said that there are some people who are just beyond fixing. > > All Riot can really do in those cases is keep punishing them where applicable in the hopes that they'll tire eventually. I mean, Riot also tells us Riven and Vayne arent over powered. Which we all know isnt true. So perhaps question them more often
> [{quoted}](name=5StackUltOneShot,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2019-04-11T23:49:26.105+0000) > > I mean, Riot also tells us Riven and Vayne arent over powered. Which we all know isnt true. So perhaps question them more often HAHA this is a diamond in a rough. Yeah, basically everything RIOT says is about marketing to the public or people at RIOT protecting their jobs. Literally Occams Razor. RIOT balance team be like "we have a very balanced season 9" Kappa. RIOT behavior team be like: "we stop toxicity with our automated system that has virtually no false negatives" Kappa.
: > make a fun acc, play some weeks and your old acc should be bueno. No, this wouldn't work. Gametime on one account doesn't translate to any other accounts beyond the one being played on. So, if you make a "fun" account and play on that for a while after the 14-day ban on the "old" account, the "old" account is still going to be on very thin ice, with no improvement. There is of course something to be said of perception, but regardless, the only way to regain standing in the system is to play on the account you want/need to regain standing on. Ignoring the one account and playing on another does nothing.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rEddvrZN,comment-id=00100001,timestamp=2019-04-13T13:23:09.176+0000) > > No, this wouldn't work. Gametime on one account doesn't translate to any other accounts beyond the one being played on. So, if you make a "fun" account and play on that for a while after the 14-day ban on the "old" account, the "old" account is still going to be on very thin ice, with no improvement. > > There is of course something to be said of perception, but regardless, the only way to regain standing in the system is to play on the account you want/need to regain standing on. Ignoring the one account and playing on another does nothing. Since RIOT doesn't publish the source code, there is no way for you to know? You are guessing based upon what others have told you. Unless you personally wrote the code?
: >But hey if you leave an obvious loss, expect multiple reports Multiple reports don't matter, it just takes one. Bit of a safety net there. >just make sure you didin't type FF 2x or more It does get annoying tbh if you spam it too much. One of the main reasons I left this game was people constantly giving up. At least in Overwatch, they just leave and someone else can take their place instead of me having to listen to their bitching.
> [{quoted}](name=IcyPepper,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TjwVmV4m,comment-id=001c00000000,timestamp=2019-04-12T22:25:30.792+0000) > > Multiple reports don't matter, it just takes one. Bit of a safety net there. > if you leave, people will report you for multiple things, even if not true: IE, report : AFK, INT, Negative. IE "multiple reports" > It does get annoying tbh if you spam it too much. One of the main reasons I left this game was people constantly giving up. At least in Overwatch, they just leave and someone else can take their place instead of me having to listen to their bitching. Yes, bad players always want to play out unwinnable or very low % games. Its very annoying.
THE COLFO (EUW)
: Is it worth continuing and using an account after 2 week ban
Start a new account and make it your main, play casually ARAMs on the old account account 1x or 2x a week for a year or so. new slate.
: > [{quoted}](name=MyAccountStolen1,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=00010004,timestamp=2019-04-12T04:38:35.097+0000) > > My first ban was for mostly just calling people bad and r%%%%%s when they trolled me or soft-INTed me, but I always tried to win. After that perma and losing my skins/champs, I felt wronged and I made it a point to be as much of a bastard to anyone who negatively impacts me, and I feel justified because I know they felt it was OK to report me for whatever. Of course I learned and I never spent money again, and I keep getting banned for various things, but I don't care anymore. I do enjoy the mechanical/strategic aspect of the game enough to put up with the disgusting human cockroaches that infest this game. But I've come to absolutely HATE the playerbase and the behavior moderation team for failing us all. The game changed me as person, but it has helped me recognize that most people are dogshit humans, not inherently good. Treat them as such, until the small percentage that are decent reveal themselves, and treat only them with respect. > > BTW system has failed, I will never stop playing or being soft-toxic, no matter how many bans I face. I just invest the absolute bare minimum in each account so I feel nothing when it happens. So keep fooling yourself that people who get banned actually leave the game because of a ban. If anything, bans make me more dedicated to playing, I've noticed. Woah, that was dramatic. You must be like, a bad guy, right? But not one of the bad-bad ones. Just one of those somewhat relatable ones who had something bad happen in their childhood and now they're bad because of it. And like, also one of the ones that's fighting for some weird cause with some weird-ass logic for the betterment of the universe. Sorta like Thanos... Are you Thanos? Are you going to kill off half the game and/or incite half of the playerbase to 'stand up for themselves' and flame the flamers?
> [{quoted}](name=Schoenberg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=000100040001,timestamp=2019-04-12T13:42:42.887+0000) > > Woah, that was dramatic. > > You must be like, a bad guy, right? But not one of the bad-bad ones. > > Just one of those somewhat relatable ones who had something bad happen in their childhood and now they're bad because of it. > > And like, also one of the ones that's fighting for some weird cause with some weird-ass logic for the betterment of the universe. > > Sorta like Thanos... > > Are you Thanos? > Are you going to kill off half the game and/or incite half of the playerbase to 'stand up for themselves' and flame the flamers? I'm not in the least bit shocked that an NPC such as yourself cannot process the meaning.
: >I’m not even sure if this is anyone’s fault. … the people who flamed and screamed at you? Yes, it's their fault for doing so. Come play Overwatch or a game like it where you can just leave a casual match with little penalty and someone else can take your place. There's a few out there. Or keep trekking on. I admire your grace.
> [{quoted}](name=IcyPepper,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TjwVmV4m,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2019-04-12T06:45:06.820+0000) > > … the people who flamed and screamed at you? Yes, it's their fault for doing so. > > Come play Overwatch or a game like it where you can just leave a casual match with little penalty and someone else can take your place. There's a few out there. > > Or keep trekking on. I admire your grace. Actually so true. One of the worst things about this game.... get 2 or 3 lanes INTing their asses off, and they vote "no" just to torture you some more..... as if giving you a free loss and wasting your first 15 minutes wasn't enough.... But hey if you leave an obvious loss, expect multiple reports... just make sure you didin't type FF 2x or more.... IFS will catch that.
Leetri (EUW)
: If you're flaming someone back you're still flaming, doesn't matter who started it. Say someone punches you and you start punching back, you're both gonna be thrown out of the bar for being disruptive and it doesn't matter who threw the first punch. Same goes for League, by arguing with a troll you're ruining the game for 3 other people who just want to play. To them you're no better than the guy who started flaming, which is why they report you. What are you defending yourself from? It's not like the guy is trying to rob you or anything, the only thing that could get hurt is your ego. Don't fight them, that's what they want you to do, just mute and ignore them cause they're not worth your time.
> [{quoted}](name=Leetri,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TjwVmV4m,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2019-04-11T15:55:18.623+0000) > > If you're flaming someone back you're still flaming, doesn't matter who started it. Say someone punches you and you start punching back, you're both gonna be thrown out of the bar for being disruptive and it doesn't matter who threw the first punch. Same goes for League, by arguing with a troll you're ruining the game for 3 other people who just want to play. To them you're no better than the guy who started flaming, which is why they report you. > > What are you defending yourself from? It's not like the guy is trying to rob you or anything, the only thing that could get hurt is your ego. Don't fight them, that's what they want you to do, just mute and ignore them cause they're not worth your time. LOL, if you get punched at a bar, you are getting thrown out even if you don't fight back. Get some real life experience.
: > ...why not just take away their ability to break chat rules for good instead of not letting them play at all? I personally think a ban from the game as a whole should be reserved for people losing on purpose and/or actually ruining the game experience for others. Riot has tried what amounted to a permanent chat restriction before - moreover, indefinitely scaling chat restrictions. Players under those longer-scale restrictions largely resorted to trolling and intentionally feeding as a way to be toxic, and in the cases that they didn't, those players largely still remained toxic with no sign of reform. So, let me ask you; would you really want a highly probable uptick in gameplay toxicity (trolling, intentionally feeding) for the sake of not permabanning players who go out of their way to be toxic over and over again, despite several punishments and warnings? > Am I missing something? Do bans on toxic players really solve more problems than they cause? According to Riot, the majority of players who get permanently banned do leave the game (which is the intended result), and the majority of those beside tend to reform (an acceptable, if not intended result), with only a few continuing to be toxic after the fact. But, this is considering that permanently banned players generally only make up 0.006%~ of the playerbase; typically, the first one or two punishments is enough to prompt reform from players who genuinely want to play the game, and, unfortunately, it has to be said that there are some people who are just beyond fixing. All Riot can really do in those cases is keep punishing them where applicable in the hopes that they'll tire eventually.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yqoae86,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-11T22:13:13.962+0000) > > Riot has tried what amounted to a permanent chat restriction before - moreover, indefinitely scaling chat restrictions. Players under those longer-scale restrictions largely resorted to trolling and intentionally feeding as a way to be toxic, and in the cases that they didn't, those players largely still remained toxic with no sign of reform. > > So, let me ask you; would you really want a highly probable uptick in gameplay toxicity (trolling, intentionally feeding) for the sake of not permabanning players who go out of their way to be toxic over and over again, despite several punishments and warnings? > > According to Riot, the majority of players who get permanently banned do leave the game (which is the intended result), and the majority of those beside tend to reform (an acceptable, if not intended result), with only a few continuing to be toxic after the fact. > > But, this is considering that permanently banned players generally only make up 0.006%~ of the playerbase; typically, the first one or two punishments is enough to prompt reform from players who genuinely want to play the game, and, unfortunately, it has to be said that there are some people who are just beyond fixing. > > All Riot can really do in those cases is keep punishing them where applicable in the hopes that they'll tire eventually. My first ban was for mostly just calling people bad and r%%%%%s when they trolled me or soft-INTed me, but I always tried to win. After that perma and losing my skins/champs, I felt wronged and I made it a point to be as much of a bastard to anyone who negatively impacts me, and I feel justified because I know they felt it was OK to report me for whatever. Of course I learned and I never spent money again, and I keep getting banned for various things, but I don't care anymore. I do enjoy the mechanical/strategic aspect of the game enough to put up with the disgusting human cockroaches that infest this game. But I've come to absolutely HATE the playerbase and the behavior moderation team for failing us all. The game changed me as person, but it has helped me recognize that most people are dogshit humans, not inherently good. Treat them as such, until the small percentage that are decent reveal themselves, and treat only them with respect. BTW system has failed, I will never stop playing or being soft-toxic, no matter how many bans I face. I just invest the absolute bare minimum in each account so I feel nothing when it happens. So keep fooling yourself that people who get banned actually leave the game because of a ban. If anything, bans make me more dedicated to playing, I've noticed.
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