: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=sNfVwAh0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-18T01:16:01.853+0000) > > I would! Come on people let's get Riot to see this! Vote yes, upvote!! never downvoted a post so fast
: If Riot gave you a chance to get your account back, would you do it?
I would! Come on people let's get Riot to see this! Vote yes, upvote!!
Maevelle (NA)
: Sounds pretty petty to assume that. He's been said to be one of the most successful reworks to date. Just cause you have a problem with it doesn't mean a majority does.
My argument is not petty, and a lot of people hate the rework. It is not one of the most successful at all. Warwicks is. Galio is not.
: Do you guys still have any hope for mid season?
I have no hope. Riot has been ruining the game for me ever since this season started, and the Galio rework as well. Ugh.
wildfox99 (EUW)
: >All hope is lost for me, brothers. Please, bring light i almost hoped they were going to do something good with AP item and with ahri mini rework,after see what they did i literally quit LOL and yes,bot lane has still the 80% of team power budget,but i could almost accept that it takes so long for nerfing them if they could do a decent work on other classes (srsly,AP rework was a joke) _just a tip,try fortnite,is way more funny and satisfying to play atm,and their changes makes sense_
I'm not sure if this was fake or not but I heard Fortnite is shutting down actually.
heroikc (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5thGXon,comment-id=000900000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-17T23:36:35.251+0000) > > They weren't broken, and they were better. More unique, more fun to play and use. He just needed some tuning and shifting of power so he could have better mana costs. His visuals were fine. Well his story was also outdated due to Poppy's rework. And you sure about that? Sounds like missing the abuse of it all given their were plenty of articles suggesting otherwise.
I don't care about his lore, they can do whatever. But his visuals were fine.
heroikc (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5thGXon,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-17T12:53:16.566+0000) > > Well it's the truth, the rework is awful and wasn't needed. And, they would admit they made mistakes with it by reverting it. It's not insulting to them if they realize that. > > And no, I saw Reportior or whatever his name is say that they are nerfing Galio just because they are nerfing his competition and expect him to be better in result of that, nothing else. So original Galio, with his outdated looks and questionably broken W and R, was better? Took me awhile to look up WHY Galio needed the rework, beyond looks.
They weren't broken, and they were better. More unique, more fun to play and use. He just needed some tuning and shifting of power so he could have better mana costs. His visuals were fine.
Vanjie (NA)
: @Riot - Another Ryze Rework but Zero Work on Karma, Lissandra, Skarner and Morde.
This is so frustrating. Riot, get your head out of your ass and work on the things that actually NEED work, not your popular pet champions. {{sticker:darius-angry}}
: She needs alot of work done since they have strupped her of her most iconic ability and given it to ivern and now her lore which was given to irelia
Yeah that first part makes me so MAD. Why take it off her and give it to him? It's so frustrating!
Rioter Comments
: What's taken the fun out of league for you?
Along with yours, mine are: 1) The switch to Runes Reforged and this awful BE system 2) My main Galio reworked into a shitty version 3) Team Builder removal 4) Karma "mini rework" then left in the dirt 5) Every time they rework AP Itemization, they end up always screwing the AP mains over and over again 6) Constant Zed buffs thanks to Riot bias 7) Games are too snowbally, one fight or one person can lose the game I know I probably have more but can't think right now. Those are my main ones though. Ugh, I wish we could go back to before season 6 :(
heroikc (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5thGXon,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2018-04-16T17:59:47.734+0000) > > No, it wouldn't. It would be more beneficial, especially to his playerbase that was let down with this awful rework. And it would be insulting to Riot to have their hard work thrown into their face, calling it "awful". After all, Galio seemed to have been played enough to get that recent nerf of his.
Well it's the truth, the rework is awful and wasn't needed. And, they would admit they made mistakes with it by reverting it. It's not insulting to them if they realize that. And no, I saw Reportior or whatever his name is say that they are nerfing Galio just because they are nerfing his competition and expect him to be better in result of that, nothing else.
: His Q was a slow & almost non-reliable skillshot, which a lot of people can easily dodge against. Him being melee back then made his laning phase against most matchups a lot difficult for him to even cs, and his old W won't keep him alive for too long. His E makes no sense for being a "speed booster" & is nothing more than a damage spamming ability, like Zac's old Q. His ult defies the logic of how CC should have be, such as how its taunt negates all sorts of Tenacity. There's close to no counterplay if you manage to get caught in its radius, except if you have the following: - Udyr in Bear Stance. - Blitzcrank with his next AA being E. - QSS. - Any champions outside his large radius with a ranged Interrupt, like Cho's Q.
His Q had counterplay, but with skill was not that hard to hit, especially if you played him a lot like I did. That's why you picked him in AP matchups, that way you built MR and got more AP, and healed off any damage the enemy laner did. Easy peasy. Being melee didn't do much to hurt him, especially once you scaled up and could clear half a wave with Q, and got some mana regen to help if needed. His E was fun, but could've been used for a different spell. I still liked it though. With the way thing are now, it would be easy to disrupt his ult. But back then I had people who were smart and were able to displace me. Doesn't happen every time but just depends on the game. He had a lot of counterplay but was still fun to use and wasn't underpowered. I miss my old Galio :(
: In a game with millions of players world-wide, the old Galio's fanbase was tiny. There was a running meme even that was "What's a Galio?" You can't really sit there and tell me that he had this gigantic fanbase when there were memes questioning his existence.
I never said it was gigantic. **Again, stop assuming things**. Good Lord. And I've been here since mid season 4, and been on the boards not long after I started playing, and I **NEVER **heard that meme, so either you brought that up out of your ass or that wasn't really relevant across the players to begin with. He had a dedicated playerbase, which is what I said before. Ones that loved him for what he was and his unique identity and spells. All of that is lost, for something that made him worse to begin with.
: Yes, you're voicing your complaints, everyone gets that. However, voicing your complaints should not involve you shitting on and putting down other players who have opinions that directly contradict yours. Every time someone brings up the fact that players actually like the new Galio, you have some off-hand excuse or reasoning of why they don't actually like the new Galio, but instead only use him as a tool for winning in ranked and competitive play. You have your opinions. You do not get to tell other people that they don't actually love a champion that you loved in a previous incarnation just because the new kit is not how you like it. Be passionate about it, but learn to respect others opinions and their passions about it. Other DO love the new Galio for the Australian meat head he is, his goofy quotes and movements, his epic poses, and his kit. You don't get to tell people that they can't actually love these elements about the new Galio and instead only love him because they can use him and win in LCS.
I never put anyone done or shitted on their opinions. Stop assuming things that aren't true. Sure, some people like him, but I was saying not all that play him do. There are a lot that play to fucking win, not because they love the champ. For me, for instance, I don't like playing tank supports but will do it for the sake of the team if they decided to be stupid and not pick a good team comp. I am respectful of others. Done with you. Bye!
: No to that. People worked hard to rework, remodel, and reprogram to make the New Galio. It took months of time and efforts to make that, even if you don't like it. They would not shit on their own artists and programmers, and watch wasted time and money go down the drain just to appease a tiny fan base of people who can't evolve with the game.
It's not a tiny fanbase. Well they made his rework shit, so they aren't stomping on their so called "hard work." They would be reverting him to where he was at- where he was fucking FINE, and be showing the players that they can admit they made mistakes. Old Galio > Shitty New Galio. End of story. I'm done arguing with you.
: People don't generally massively vocalize their appreciation and love for things that are currently making them content. That's why you don't see posts about people loving the new Galio - people like him, they're content with him, so why do they need to take to the internet to profess their love for him? On the other hand, only people pissed off at something will become vocal and complain ad nauseum - it's their way of believing that they will be a cause for changing the thing they don't like. That's why you pretty much only see complaint threads pop up here. If people didn't like Galio, they simply wouldn't play him. At current, he's played more than a pretty substantial chunk of champions. He's not like Ahri or Ezreal popular, but he's middle of the road, far far from the bottom where he used to sit.
Only because they probably think they can win with him, due to his LCS popularity. I don't care if others like him. I hate him, his new model is hideous and they completely ruined him. I'm voicing my complaints because I'm passionate about it, and want something done about it.
: Here's how a character model works: The Rigging (skeleton) - this is the most basic "wire" inside the model. This is what commands the entire character and controls all the animations. You build the exterior on this. You create bindings and "puppet strings" for how moving one part of the rigging will effect other parts of the rigging. So if the thigh moves up, it knows to pull the lower leg and foot up along with it, etc. The Model - This is what we see. It's purely cosmetic. It's the exterior of the model, made from a mass of polygons. It's built and attached to the rigging, so that when a character moves it's skeletal head in the rigging, you see the model head move. The textures are applied to the model to add color and detail. The Texture - This is the paint job of the model. It's purely cosmetic. It's the color and everything you see on the model. Chromas are basically new recolors of the texture map (the "paint by number" file that tells the model where to apply the colors). In order to make a character, the most important element is the rigging. It is unique to the model, and in order to have the model do new animations, you have to change the "puppet strings" in the rigging and command it on how to interact with all the other moving parts of the rigging, as well as how to trigger when input commands are created. You cannot simply copy/paste an animation from another character model into another one and expect it to work the same because one rigging will have completely different "puppet strings" that the other rigging does not have at all. Therefore, even though the old model of Galio may exist in a Rioter's computer somewhere, they will never be able to import those animations into the New Galio. It simply doesn't work that way.
I never said to put his old animations into the new. I said to take the new OUT, and bring back the old animations as the NEW. Just finding the old model, working on his spells and visuals, and bringing that character back into the game.
: Now your argument is degrading into pure pettiness. You cannot accuse new players who love Galio of not connecting to the champion just because you don't like it. That'd be like saying people who own cats don't really love cats, they just want to have a pet that isn't a dog. Come on now, at least TRY to make a case here that doesn't boil down to your opinions on new Galio.
I haven't seen posts of how people love the new Galio, or seen people talk fondly of him, besides the ones on my thread. So yeah, I'm going to safely assume the lot that play him, don't really love him. My argument is not petty. I am passionate about what I love, that's why I made this thread. And I hate Riot for ruining him.
: i do enjoy old galio better but new galio looks better plus he has a fried chicken skin with chromas
I think he looked fine the way he was. I don't like his new look.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Yet they did... When they "reverted" Rengar they said they had to rebuild the Q animation, so pretty sure that right there confirms they don't keep that stuff. So I highly doubt they'd keep the old Galio, Yorick, Sion, ect that had massive overhauls.
Doesn't seem that hard to me to rebuild it since they did it before. I miss my old Galio. He was way better than this stupid white alligator crap.
Sukishoo (NA)
: No he's not and no they can't. The assets for those champions pretty much still exist cause they didn't heavily change the animations (aside from Rengar's Q), but Galio had his entire kit, animations, effects, ect changed. So they cannot just "revert" them. They've have to rebuild and test them all over again.
I'm sure they still have his old animations and effects. They wouldn't just throw those out. So, I believe they can revert it.
: We're nerfing Galio because we're nerfing those above him, and we expect him to increase in priority as a result if left alone.
Literally, that is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard for a reason as to why you are nerfing him. I agree with the OP, like I don't understand any logic behind you all balance things because just about everything you do, is very questionable and sometimes just mind blowing (in a bad way).
Sukishoo (NA)
: >MakeGalioGreatAgain Galio is great the way he is. >Since we are in the state of reverting reworks (LB, Rengar, Kog'Maw,) why not Galio? Those are completely different in comparison. Galio was a full relaunch, (LB, Reg, Kog, ect) were small scale reworks done as part of the discontinued class updates.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5thGXon,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-04-16T18:10:40.344+0000) > > Galio is great the way he is. No, he's awful. > > Those are completely different in comparison. Galio was a full relaunch, (LB, Reg, Kog, ect) were small scale reworks done as part of the discontinued class updates. So? They are reverting them. They can do the same to Galio.
: I've seen some posts periodically about people playing on private servers with custom settings - I'd just suggest googling it and checking youtube. But be careful, though. That stuff can be fishy.
Alright, I'll check it out. Thanks!
heroikc (NA)
: ...You do understand that Galio was reworked from the _Ground up_ unlike your other examples (who had ability updates) and would thus be a complete and utter waste of effort and time, no?
No, it wouldn't. It would be more beneficial, especially to his playerbase that was let down with this awful rework.
: Galio had a tiny player base prior to his VGU. He was one of the bottom 3 played champions for years. I cannot imagine that the "lot of others" you speak of would even come remotely close to the number of players who play and love the new Galio.
I would think otherwise, if you gave them a chance to speak up. And I would bet that a lot of people that play the new Galio, don't really "love" him, but play him to win.
: Literally no one played Old Galio & was one of the most complained champions for a rework. New Galio has a lot of competitive scene and has actual presence in teamfights & non-awkward laning phase.
I saw a good bit play him. He wasn't like a popular champ like Lee Sin, but he had a dedicated playerbase. New Galio has a kit for the competitive scene, that's why he's played more, but his old kid was still good for teamfights, he didn't need changes.
: It's not that Riot doesn't owe anyone anything because it's a free game, it's that they don't owe anyone anything because they're a private company. They only literally owe people what they sell them, i.e. if you buy a skin, you better be able to use the skin. However, they *should* listen to the playerbase on the principle of, "If we don't keep people happy, they'll stop playing the game and stop spending money on it." I miss the old Galio and liked it more, but I think the new one is really cool too. Though he's certainly not as unique as he used to be. There are private servers that run on old patches and make their own balance changes, so those are potentially options if anyone really wants to play pre-rework champions while Riot decides how to move forward on these gameplay/balance issues.
I just feel defeated because Riot has ruined so many things that I love about the game. Karma (RIP shield bomb), Team Builder, Galio, etc), and I hate the direction the game is going, and to me I feel they owe it to us to give us something to make us happy about like bringing back something old that people LOVED. I play Galio sometimes now, like if the team needs a tankier presence, but I miss my old version so much. He's not as fun to play :( What are these private servers? I would love to find out if they are real and if I could play my old Galio again, I would be ecstatic!
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5thGXon,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-16T15:26:38.735+0000) > > He wasn't garbage. He was fun to play, but just didn't win much. Now? He wins more but is horrible to play. > > He's not a success at all, imo. I hate the rework. If he wasn't garbage, then where were all the Galio players? Across all the accounts I've ever played on, since sometime in mid season 3, I think I'd seen old Galio maybe once or twice outside of URF games. The fact that old Galio effectively barely had an ultimate if the enemy team had Braum/Xin/Udyr _(taunting them just resulted in you CCing yourself out of your own ult)_ felt bad. On top of being a poke mage with high mana costs and melee range autos, or a supposed "tanky mage" with not much innate tankiness. There's also the fact that if he WAS reverted, what would he even build? Athene's wouldn't be that great on him, his basic abilities fall outside of Abyssal Mask's aura range...
I don't know what rank you are in but I saw him a good bit back in my day before his rework. Like I said, he was old and had problems but were easy fixes. He didn't need a stupid rehaul that ruined him for many people.
: What you consider "success" is just your opinion, as you said. But there are statistics that show that new Galio has seen LOTS more success and playtime than old Galio was ever seeing. Additionally, I think that since more people are playing him and more frequently, a VERY GOOD case can be made in favor of his new play style being fun to play, and not, as you state, horrible. Your opinions are not the be-all-end-all about whether or not Galio's VGU was a success or not. The numbers determine if he's a success or not, and so far, he's been a great success.
I don't care about his win rates or the stats. They gave him more of a competitive play style that works for the LCS. Not for me or others. His old kit had a good play style as well. Didn't need to be changed. AT ALL.
: Not quite certain you understand what a success is. Old Galio was garbage, he sat at some of the lowest play rates and his win rates were just as bad. He was in a miserable state. The new Galio has actually seen good play, and his win rates have been stable. By all accounts, taking a champion who was all but forgotten and turning him into a champion who now sees competitive play and is used much more than his old version could ever dream of is considered successful. New Galio is a success, much like Warwick, Yorick, Sion, and Poppy are. He would not be a success if after his rework he retained his miserably low play and win rates.
He wasn't garbage. He was fun to play, but just didn't win much. Now? He wins more but is horrible to play. He's not a success at all, imo. I hate the rework.
: you. make you happy. personally I love the 'new' galio, and felt that the old galio was pretty much a button masher. I know my buddy loves the new galio, and hated the old one. Hell, me and him play galio swain bot lane and have been having the most fun in weeks. But it isn't up to me, and it isn't up to you. Its up to the people in charge of the game, and we just have to deal with it or move on.
No, it would make a lot of others happy as well. The new Galio is horrible, and needs reverted.
: Right. So let's dig into this. > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a5thGXon,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-16T14:12:56.073+0000) >Now? His "taunt" is barely a shadow of its self- it didn't even do any damage until a few patches ago, and it slows him down so it's easy for people to get out of, and is 1) not fun to use, and 2) pretty horrible compared to his old R. His old taunt made Galio stationary. He wasn't catching anyone in a taunt that made him completely immobile. Furthermore, it was channeled, which means that any CC that hit him immediately ended it. The new Taunt gives him damage reduction and has more nuanced use than just "pray your enemies don't get out of range before you flash-R." > > His new R? Not fun or pleasing to watch, and you can only ult allies, who can die before you get there and then you can be put in a shitty spot trying to survive. This complaint isn't a complaint about the ult itself, but simply poor timing and bad decision making on your part. His ult is not Shen's ult. It is not intended to make that ally survive if they are near death. It gives that ally some of his own MR and armor when he casts it, making them more durable. It's good for tanks, and squishies if they're at full HP. It's not good for trying to save someone who's quickly dying. It's a follow up engage tool or a GTFO zone for people assaulting an ally. You need to learn to not randomly ult into a crowd and expect to 1v5 after they kill your ally. Your ally couldn't 1v5, so why would you be able to? > > You removed his fun W, where it healed him based off damage he or someone else took, and gave them a shit ton of armor and MR. That was so unique, and you took it away! WHY??? His old W was plain and pretty dull. The healing was small, and it was mainly a gimmick to make his AP rise due to boosting his MR. > > His old Q- although it was a skillshot, it rewarded you with mega damage for hitting it correctly. I LOVED using that spell on people and seeing them pop. Now it's this stupid blast of wind that is even harder to hit for the full damage because people know how to dodge and move out of it. It is now a double arcing skill shot that leaves a small moving tornado that deals %HP damage. People could EASILY dodge his old shot, which was one-and-done. His current Q at least lingers and can still damage enemies who wander into it. Old Galio was a complete mess. His Q and E were awkward skill shots. He was supposed to be a tank mage, but very little of his kit was actually considered tanky, aside from the fact that he was supposed to build MR, and he had such massive mana costs that he wasn't an effective mage at all. For a tank, he also had no engage, aside from what little speed he could get while moving through E, and his only CC was in his ultimate. He was a conflicted champion, and his kit didn't work well at all. Granted, I can see the bitterness about his change from gargoyle to colossus statue, but I feel like they preserved a lot of elements in his old kit, while modernizing him and making him work a lot better as a mage tank. Calling for a revert back to that mess of a state he used to be in is a no-go on many levels. > > Around the time of his rework, we got the Warwick job done not long before him. His rework was a very big SUCCESS, and made him more unique but still fun to play and KEPT HIS OLD SPELLS, but with new touches on them. Why couldn't you have left Galio the way he was, but did something similar to him like WW? Or, you know, not touch something that wasn't BROKEN? Sure, he was old and outdated, but his kit was FUN AS HECK and just needed tuning and a visual update, if that. > Warwick got a lot of his kit changed. His Q is brand new, his R changed, his E is brand new. The only thing that remained remotely similar is his passive and his W, which even then, Bloodscent does a helluva lot more than the old one did. Warwick also was pretty straightforward in his old kit - he ran up and attacked you to death. He wasn't awkward, conflicted, or clunky like old Galio was. And also, new Galio is a SUCCESS. You may not think so, but he's pretty popular now, and he's done very well in competitive play. That he is not a success like Warwick is purely your opinion on this matter, simply because you don't like the new Galio.
I know a good bit of people hate the new Galio, it's not just me. And no, it's not a success, at all. The rework ruined the champion.
: First off, Riot doesn't owe really anything to anyone because it's a free game. But I agree Galio was a lot of fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dfna_5yAAg Honestly, just revert w and r with some touch ups, pretty much it.
His Q and visual update as well. Pure revert is what I want. To me, they owe it to us. They keep ruining everything we love, so it's about time they fix something to make us happy.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sMOfi6d7,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2018-04-11T01:32:04.164+0000) > > Yeah and you can still have fun playing support. Don't be a troll (i.e. yasuo "sup," or ask to switch) to your team just because you want to have "fun" every damn game. It's not fun for them if you do that. I play for personal experience, so does everyone else, everyone wants fun so they deserve itfor themselves
But you can have fun and not ruin other peoples experience. Goodness.
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sMOfi6d7,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-04-10T12:32:29.931+0000) > > Seriously man? I know autofill is frustrating, but it's there to so everyone can have their time playing the role they want. So don't be a troll when you get support and cause your team to NOT have fun just because you were autofilled once out of your 10 games that you went mid or wherever. Learn to play a few sup champs, play your autofill through then get the protection for your next few games. > > It's that easy. You don't have to be mean to others just because YOU didn't get what you wanted for one game. Sheesh. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} i know how to play every champ in the game, oml.. once again, im trying to have fun NOT CARRY
Yeah and you can still have fun playing support. Don't be a troll (i.e. yasuo "sup," or ask to switch) to your team just because you want to have "fun" every damn game. It's not fun for them if you do that.
: "Lets have fun in a norms match! Oh wait.. I got autofilled"
Seriously man? I know autofill is frustrating, but it's there to so everyone can have their time playing the role they want. So don't be a troll when you get support and cause your team to NOT have fun just because you were autofilled once out of your 10 games that you went mid or wherever. Learn to play a few sup champs, play your autofill through then get the protection for your next few games. It's that easy. You don't have to be mean to others just because YOU didn't get what you wanted for one game. Sheesh. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: - I Feel Like A Slight Nerf to Zyonas is at Hand -
Don't know if you're just joking or not but Zhonya's has already been nerfed heavily. It doesn't need anymore.
Aeszarck (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y5rELbEF,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2018-04-05T19:43:26.098+0000) > > You need reading glasses bro. > > He was talking about Taric for the "One for All" mini game, not the actual game. I literally linked a site that has all of this data on One For All. [I'll link it again.](http://roman.st/Article/League-Legends-One-All-2018-statistics) Why are you accusing me of needing reading glasses? Taric's WR is 48%, he was played 1218 times. Shyvana's WR is 71%, she was played 315 times.
If I recall, that link wasn't there before. Whatever though.
Aeszarck (NA)
: Taric has a 48% winrate, he's not OP at all. Shyvana has roughly a fourth of his playrate and has a 71% winrate. If you want to talk about OP yet underplayed, talk about her! http://roman.st/Article/League-Legends-One-All-2018-statistics
You need reading glasses bro. He was talking about Taric for the "One for All" mini game, not the actual game.
: Did you double check Yasuo's flow meter? Letting him run could give him his shield, negating the ignite damage.
It was down, I saw the ignite working. Kayn backs off a bit as Yasuo moves around, then last hits and runs off, both times. First time, I said "Kayn!! WTF. I ignited him!!!" and he was like "oh shit." Second time? Completely mute. Just ran away and then fed his ass off. {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
: my fav is they are like 50 health ignited and the jungle comes flying in with the amazing play of blue smite. I'm just like dam, that was the outplay of the game right there.
: Again, don't use Ignite on a champion that is already going to die.
Again, you don't know what might happen, like for instance the champion flashing out before you could ignite.
: A kill isn't a kill until it has been secured. Don't Ignite someone who can be very easily killed without needing to use Ignite. Save it for when you actually need it, instead of using it to claim kills.
Like I said- when it is a blatant kill, especially on a Yasuo who has mobility and you're an Ahri who has used all the spells and had some blocked, nothing else to do besides AA and ignite. Again, do not steal another champs kill if it is obvious they will get it.
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AmazoX (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xkm7Alkl,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-04T23:00:45.878+0000) > > Uh a lot of people are complaining with facts and explanation. Maybe some don't see that apparently they don't affect him til after 16, but that doesn't mean you have to belittle them for it. > > Learn to be respectful. You can argue effectively without being rude. You cannot argue/discuss with players that are biased. I am open to discussions all day, every day.
Yes, you can. It's called being a respectful human being and talking with them. Listening to them about their concerns and then proceeding nicely with your reply.
AmazoX (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xkm7Alkl,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-03T19:22:44.933+0000) > > I read it. You are calling us biased for complaining about Zed, I'm calling you a biased Zed lover cause you like to argue with us about your main and how he isn't strong, etc. I am calling those people biased whom hate Zed without because they claim his OP while ignoring the MATHEMATICAL FACTS that the compensations after the Dusk blade nerf are none existent until ZED hits LEVEL 16. How hard is that to understand man? I DON'T EVEN MAIN ZED, but I love the character and dislike it when people hate on ANY character claiming they are OP without any reasonable explanation.
Uh a lot of people are complaining with facts and explanation. Maybe some don't see that apparently they don't affect him til after 16, but that doesn't mean you have to belittle them for it. Learn to be respectful. You can argue effectively without being rude.
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nauAu8hE,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-04-04T03:36:29.461+0000) > > Sheesh. Someone's salty. > > She's not getting any nerfs anytime soon, actually I think I read somewhere they are looking into some buffs for her because she's actually STRUGGLING in this meta. > > You just either don't know how to play against her as a support Lux or just got beat, pure and simple. > > Right now, her mana costs are absurd for the awful csing ability in her mid lane, and she is struggling against most mid laners right now, even ones she is supposed to beat. So, either the Lux you went against was good in managing their mana/using mana items/etc and was just showing you how she can spam and save at the same time, or you just didn't really realize it and think "oh she spams with no risk." > > Seriously dude. Go calm down, do some research, and learn to play against her then QQing on the boards that no Rioter will hear or listen to you. Then change the meta or let her struggle. When it was tank meta, they let the adcs and bruisers struggle until the adc meta. They said tanks were not good enough so let's buff them and we all know how that went. Salty? I'm sorry if I seem salty. I am a little salty. That does not make my argument invalid. If you were laning against a champ that poked you for 15 percent every ability eventually killing you, couldn't get in range because their abilities are farther than your abilities, and had a contegency plan in case you did want to get in range (Jayce, Heimerdinger, Teemo), wouldn't you have some complaints too. This is not an "I lost so nerf this and that so that I can win every game easy." This is a "Lux is not a support. She shouldn't be doing any damage in the bot lane so she can build support items more." I have beaten her in lane, I have played around her and won games with her fed on the enemy team. This is not me vs. them. This is a team game and even if I know how to play against her, that does not mean that my teammates know how to play against her. Soraka is a perfect example. That also does not mean her damage early game as support is acceptable. They nerfed malzahar, they nerfed brand, they nerfed zyra, they nerfed morgana because they all were being played back and forth mid and support and still dealing tons of damage. Lux is no different than that. I'm not saying give her the nerf hammer to make her completely useless. I would love that, but that's not what I'm getting at. If they would just nerf her e to where she isn't constantly spamming it over and over, I would take it. I don't care if they are buffing her ult, I don't care if her ult cd is getting lowered, giving her a bigger shield, whatever. ALL I WANT IS A NERF ON HER E so the laning phase can be more about laning and less about dodge the lux e.
Seriously. She is not as a nuisance as the others were, thats why they were nerfed. Lux already has a hard time farming with E in the mid lane, her costs are absurd. Nerfing that will make her mid lane worse. I literally can only say that if you think her E is doing "15 percent", then you have the wrong runes/and or playing a champ that has very low health. Cause she doesn't do as much damage as she used too, and when I say she's struggling, I mean she is struggling hard. It's easy to dodge her E, and if you bait her Q, you can go all in without much trouble. She's not a nuisance at all in this game, compared to the likes of Zed, Yasuo, etc. And you QQing is really just you being a salty person that got beat, pure and simple. Lux doesn't deserve any nerfs. She needs help.
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