: they weren't. They weren't even able to make an adc mid hp with their whole combo against supp shield. As lux, morgana, insert sup u are short memored...
Did you play before the time of Duskblade? I did. I remember. Assassins were able to kill who they needed, the squishies just fine. They only started having problems when Riot introduced all the shield and healing buffs n items.
: So assassins can struggle even more? No thanks. Assassins aren't even the ones abusing the item. Talon's damage basically comes from this item now hence his drastic winrate drop. I guess it's cool though to hate on assassins.. To be honest though, edge of night is the item that needs reworked. It's completely useless. Like why do you have to activate it instead of it already being active like banshee's veil? The only time anyone ever builds this item is for the lethality.
: > The number of optimal rune choices could be counted on two hands, and the number of potentially viable options wasn't too much higher. You're correct that not all were worthless, however the vast majority of possible combinations were. I make these statements as someone who never ran flat runes, always scaling, whenever possible.
Well I always ran flat, but not I don't think the vast majority were worthless. What's worthless now is a lot of the new crap.
Subdue (NA)
: And then you look at all the old guides out there and you see that really 95% of champs were using the same setups: AP? AP or Mpen Marks, Armor Seals, MR Glyphs, and AP Quints AD? AD, Apen or AS Marks, Armor Seals, MR Glyphs, AD, Apen, or AS Marks Maybe once in a while you see CDR sprinkled in there somewhere, but even that was rare.
Nah. I saw plenty that used others, like hybrid pen, attack speed, X per level, mana regen, etc.
: To be fair, while there were hundreds of rune combinations in the old system, the vast majority were worthless. Sure I could have 100+ pages where I didn't use the same rune twice, but why would I? Your statement is technically correct, but realistically ignores the truth of the situation. The number of optimal rune choices could be counted on two hands, and the number of potentially viable options wasn't too much higher.
Not all where worthless. There were a set few that were the best, but you had a lot of combinations that were great for every champ and match up.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6j0zupvT,comment-id=0021000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-16T11:18:49.971+0000) > > You do not know anything about me to make that claim, you are making assumption based off this account where i just said my literal experience which my new account being in a much higher elo than this one. Yes sounds like you are the one who has no idea what they are talking about. You literally have not even tried this yet telling people who have they are wrong, get out... > > P.S: Using the Boosting arguement is dumb bcz Boosters also Duo Queue. doesn't have to be a booster. any pro player could take your hardstuck diamond silver gold bronze acc and get it to challenger in days or weeks. you are just wrong.
Yeah no. Only one wrong is you, buddy. Also, stop being rude and using his rank against him. That stuff gets you punished by the mods so don't say mean things like that.
: Tips for Kat or Lux
For Kat, try to pick her into a comp that isn't too CC heavy. That's one of her major weaknesses. For Lux, I've had success in her laning by chosing some of the mana runes like Manaflow Band and of course building Morello's. She's mana hungry if you spam your E too much.
: I love how self-righteous you are. I genuinely find it funny that you think you should have any say in who a billion dollar company hires and fires. You don't have any proof or evidence to back up your arguments and you make such wild accusations. Please keep amusing me with your outlandish ideas. Don't like the game? Don't play. Don't like a person on the team? Don't be rude and harass them.
> [{quoted}](name=Bob the Toastr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7FFrzuI6,comment-id=0009000100000000000000000002,timestamp=2018-01-15T07:33:09.060+0000) > > I love how self-righteous you are. I genuinely find it funny that you think you should have any say in who a billion dollar company hires and fires. You don't have any proof or evidence to back up your arguments and you make such wild accusations. Please keep amusing me with your outlandish ideas. > > Don't like the game? Don't play. > > Don't like a person on the team? Don't be rude and harass them. Really? You are quite the character. Just like the other person said, if you took the time to read, we are the consumer and we have a say. Don't need to repeat everything. Again, if you bothered to research, you would find the proof. Just about everyone knows what happened, so like I have been telling Chermorg, we don't need to repeat it again because everyone knows why. My accusations aren't wild. They are true statements. We don't like a person on the team? We speak up it about it. If you bother to be rude or sarcastic like this again, you will be ignored and downvoted.
: You better watch out. My post that reminded what ghostcrawler already did and lies they said about dynq etc got deleted. Be careful. Your posts might be deleted as well. Riot started to pull out their communist card and now we are not allowed to say a single word of truth and displeasant with scope of changes this game took since gc was hired.i guess this post might be deleted as well. Wouldnt be surprized. Too much truth to handle by poor rioters who get negative feedback they worked hard themselves for.
Yeah, I know. I've had mine deleted before as well. But I'm watching what my comments are saying. I'm using my words to discuss about this topic, not using it for harassment. Otherwise they would be long gone by now.
: > You all just don't listen and punish anyone who speaks out against you without even responding to the thread. What would they say though? "Okay guys, GC is shit, like you said, so we will fire him". That thread had nothing constructive to even answer to. And at the end of the day you can't blame one Rioter for the state of the game since there is a bunch of people working for the game, lol. If I worked for Riot I would 100% never come to this echo chamber of a boards we have here.
Apparently you don't know what GC did because he brought the same shit that he used to run WoW, HERE. Although he isn't responsible for EVERYTHING that's wrong with the game,** he's responsible for the crap he brought.**
: To think I wanted to be a mod...and yet all you guys seem to do on things that matter like this is white night for riot...this is saddening and sickening.
Can't agree more. I've had mods who deleted my posts for no good reason before. Honestly makes me wonder why Riot let them be volunteers in the first place. (This is DISCUSSION, Riot Mod team, don't delete this. Not using it for harassment).
Chermorg (NA)
: You do not have substance. You have complaints about game features **which cannot be attributed to one individual**, you then use those general complaints to call for the firing of someone who is, in some cases, not even anywhere near remotely responsible for the things you're complaining about. Until Riot describes their internal structure and projects publicly, the community has no way of "assigning blame" for something to someone. As such, attempting to say someone needs fired because they're at fault for something is inappropriate.
Apparently you don't do your research. We do have substance. We DO HAVE THE FEATURES OF WHAT GHOSTCRAWLER HAS DONE. Yes, he is the one responsible. Do you see anyone else calling for a certain X's head? No! It's GC, for good reason. We do have the ability to assign blame if we know what they did. It's appropriate to call them out for it. What's not appropriate is you censoring us for it and then not even discussing about what we are complaining about.
Chermorg (NA)
: You have no way of knowing who was responsible for something. 99% of the decisions that are made are made after team deliberation. The **team** takes the blame. Not the person.
Like I said, the person still takes the blame because he let all that crap come into the game, and yes, **he did bring in stuff that he used to ruin WoW into the game- so he is the one to be blamed for**. The team can be blamed after that because they agreed to have it in.
Chermorg (NA)
: No, you don't. And we will continue to remove threads with no substance that are simply to harass a Rioter by calling for their firing. If the thread has more content than just that, it will be at moderator discretion as to edit, delete, or leave untouched. Simple rule - don't harass Rioters.
Yes, we do. And you all doing that is just abusing your power because you see some frustrated people complaining about something and are like "oh no, this person is gonna hurt X's little ego!" and push a button to punish them without talking to them about why they feel that way or whatever. I already told you, multiple times, that people know why we are calling for their firing. It's already been put in threads. They don't need to put it in anymore. We have substance in our threads, you all just don't see that. We aren't harassing. Period. It's calling for someone who has constantly been pushing the game into a crap hole for years to be removed so the game can get BETTER.
Chermorg (NA)
: And you can complain about the game. You are paying for the game. So complain about the game. You have absolutely no authority over individual Riot teams or employees - you don't pay them. You pay for the **game**. Their managers and HR will scold/discipline them if they are underperforming. You are not their manager or HR.
Apparently you aren't understanding anything because we keep telling you all, with facts, that yes, we ABSOLUTELY have the authority to ask for a firing.
Chermorg (NA)
: No, you don't call out the **person**. You call out what's wrong with the game and the employees, their leads/managers, and HR will see it and if a person's projects constantly get ragged on they'll make changes internally. You don't complain about the person for no reason asking for their firing - it does absolutely nothing except harass them.
Yes, we call out the **person**. Everyone knows what is wrong with the game, because that **person** was the one **responsible** for it. Even if it's his "team," it's still his fault because he let the changes go through. Well apparently HR hasn't seen it because this person is still an employee. Maybe because you all delete our threads, and when we actually provide constructive criticism,** it doesn't get the light of day because you all don't respond.** Like I said multiple times, we are complaining about the person with reason, because everyone knows what they did, so they don't need to keep repeating it. It's not harassing, plain and simple.
Ralanr (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7FFrzuI6,comment-id=000900010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-14T23:22:34.073+0000) > > We are the consumer here. Just like that one person said, we do have the right and the influence to persuade HR to fire someone. You all just don't listen and punish anyone who speaks out against you without even responding to the thread. > > It's not harassment. **Everyone knows what this certain Rioter has done**. No one needs to keep offering their proof of it. Saying "X needs to be fired, he ruined the game" is perfectly fine, plain and simple**, when every knows why.** The thread about Ghostcrawler blamed him for hitboxes. He's not responsible for hitboxes at all. People are blaming Ghostcrawler because of his connection to WoW and are trying to fling whatever they can to justify it. If you don't like it, that's fine. Vote with your wallet and don't pay for anything that Riot offers for sale. That's how you get a business to listen.
I know GC is not responsible for the hitboxes. No. People aren't blaming him for his connection. They are blaming him for what he **did** at WoW to ruin it, because he brought t**hat same crap over here.** I already am doing what I can. I'm not buying anything, and I'm using my voice. But then again you all just delete it so how else is HR supposed to know our concerns? **By calling them out.**
Chermorg (NA)
: You are not in a position to influence riots internal HR processes and attempting to get someone fired is harassment, plain and simple.
We are the consumer here. Just like that one person said, we do have the right and the influence to persuade HR to fire someone. You all just don't listen and punish anyone who speaks out against you without even responding to the thread. It's not harassment. Everyone knows what this certain Rioter has done. No one needs to keep offering their proof of it. Saying "X needs to be fired, he ruined the game" is perfectly fine, plain and simple**, when every knows why.**
Chermorg (NA)
: Censoring is not what's happening here. Preventing harassment is. How do you honestly expect Riot to come discuss things when every response is going to b "you suck riot should fire you"? You may hold the opinion that someone is doing a bad job. It is not a majority opinion, no matter how much you think it is. And even if it was, it is Riot's decision, not yours, who they hire and fire. Offer constructive criticism on balance, don't try and take over Riot's HR department.
It is censoring, no matter what you call it. Riot doesn't even come to discuss things when we are constructive. So when we call them out, then we only get these volunteer mods who give us a spanking and delete our threads. No where do we have any discussion from the actual Red we are talking about or any other Red for that matter. From what I've seen, the majority opinion is that they want a certain Red fired. We just want to help persuade the HR department to fire them. Not get censored for it.
Chermorg (NA)
: Heya, I'm the one that locked the thread. As you said, we will strive to lock or remove threads that are not constructive and consist solely of people calling for the firing of Rioters and/or saying they're shit at their job or similar. Complaining about the game is fine. Making an entire post about how shit a person is at their job, instead of complaining about the work they've done, is not okay. The balance **team** is just that - a **team**. They work together, and it's unfair to call one person out for changes that were approved on many levels before making it into the game. As was said in the locking message, if anyone has any questions about what's appropriate and not please do not hesitate to contact us in the [Boards Moderation Discord server](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification).
But censoring us is not fine. Maybe if the people who actually worked at Riot did their jobs well, we wouldn't be calling for their heads. Like one person I found a little bit ago said- if you are a leader of a team who has been ruining the balance of the game for 3 years, that leader would be fired in any other organization. It's the Rioter's fault just as much as it's the team's fault. And with all the backlash that you have been getting, don't you think something must be done about what they are complaining about??
Rioter Comments
: Dont rlly know how to approach this post tbh im split between sarcasm or sincerity EDIT: It's the internet Im gnna have my cake and eat it too Fizz is trash with no wave clear to speak of and no sustain u should be able to poke him out of lane fairly easily LOL ikr man fizz op
: With this Jinx buff coming, Idk what to hell am I gonna ban...
Katarina is so easy to shut down, man. One form of CC and boop she's dead. That's why I don't like playing her in this meta.
Seen (NA)
: What is the one phrase that puts you on full tilt?
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penguin (NA)
: Honestly both of these examples look fine to me given game state. Clip 1) A level down Zoe vs a Triforce Vi. You facetanked nearly her full non-ultimate combo (Q, E + 3 hit passive of W, blue smite) and _you had bought no armor items_. Zoe is one of the squishiest champions in the game for good reason -- you shouldn't have even been that close in the first place. Proper gameplay would be to wait for your Garen to engage and then follow up, but you were impatient, and died as a result of that. Clip 2) You shut the clip off here, but you didn't die here. It's too early on into the game for you to have any MR (you bought your MR 15 minutes into the game, after this clip) and the Diana bought these items: {{item:1056}} {{item:1056}} {{item:3145}} {{item:1058}} {{item:3113}}. He had a nearly completed Luden's ON TOP of a Hextech revolver; a build that is pretty useless in any teamfight scenario, but indexes heavily into upfront burst. I'd argue that if Diana doesn't nearly kill you here that our item system is heavily flawed given that she landed her QRR + electrocute on you and you're a squishy mage that hasn't itemized towards MR at all. When you're playing squishy artillery mages, you are vulnerable to assassin burst patterns and need to adjust your positioning accordingly :). I think upfront burst can be problematic in our game currently (Dark Harvest in tandem with Duskblade feels ridiculous to play against), but don't think either example here is sufficient to prove your argument.
> [{quoted}](name=penguin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UTA3hAXP,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-01-09T21:21:52.564+0000) > > Honestly both of these examples look fine to me given game state. > > Clip 1) > > _you had bought no armor items_. Zoe is an AP mage, not AD. The guy needs MR, not armor against her.
Chermorg (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=19VImUj6,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-12-31T03:39:45.694+0000) > > Also, yes we were flaming Ghostcrawler. He destroyed WOW, and now League, and needs to quit or be fired. That is a discussion that was not meant for you to decide to delete. Heya, independent third-party here who hasn't even heard of you or many of the involved people before. I agree with the removal, and it appears you do too. You admit you were "flaming Ghostcrawler. He... needs to quit or be fired". Hence why the content was removed - that is not a discussion for the boards and honestly isn't a discussion anyone should be having. There is absolutely no reason to call for someone's firing over differences of **opinion** in the design of something. Criticize the content, fine. Criticize the **person**, not fine. You can make posts about things in League you disagree with - and in fact many players are able to do so every single day. Recently, there's been hundreds of threads expressing discontent with Zoe, the balance of Zoe, the artwork of Zoe, the new BE system, and many other topics - and almost none of them have any calls for firing someone. If you want to talk about the direction of League, fine. But if you start flaming someone who is doing their best to do their job the way they are supposed to, that's not okay. TLDR: You disagreeing with someone else's opinion on the direction of a game does not give you the right to start or participate in a flamewar against them on the Boards.
I had every right to do so. And no, I do not agree with my removal, because he had no right to delete it and my post was FUCKING FINE. My content did not deserve to be removed. AT ALL. And no. Ghostcrawler is not doing his best to help the game. HE'S AWFUL. Did you read what I said? He's **RUINED **WOW, AND LEAGUE.
: You're now a Rioter. What's the first (reasonable/semi-reasonable) thing you do?
I would bring back Team Builder as well, but also revert this preseason and bring back the better rune/mastery systems. Also, as I would climb up the ranks, once I had enough power- fire Ghostcrawler and CertainlyT.
: I rechecked the thread. Half of the post (and a huge part of the comments) wasn't even related to League as you/others bashed Ghostcrawler's decisions on WoW gameplay. Calling the new rune system "crap" offers no real criticism since by itself it's really vague. What's crap: the implementation, the variety, the balance, the art style? Without any saying otherthan that, we're left with a thread that is virtually only designed to flame Ghostcrawler with little to no other content left on it.
I don't need to explain why the new MASTERY SYSTEM, not runes, is crap because everyone knows why it is. I've also already made threats about it. Also, yes we were flaming Ghostcrawler. He destroyed WOW, and now League, and needs to quit or be fired. That is a discussion that was not meant for you to decide to delete. Put it back up.
Rioter Comments
: Am done with this game for a while
Yeah I've quit the game entirely. Haven't played for over a month now. I hate this new system.
Vaermina (NA)
: Thought everyone just used the most optimal rune set
Most, but me I didn't. I customized for each different main I had, and for different match ups. I still kicked butt and climbed in rank. Not everyone used the main set.
Sraeg2013 (EUNE)
: Honesty never got me far, which you can confirm looking at my other comments here. Oh, and the above comment was a sarcasm.
Oh, gotcha. It's hard to tell what tone people are using online.
Sraeg2013 (EUNE)
: But Rito said many times they care about ALL tiers!
Be honest though, they "care" about all tiers, but really only do stuff by their judgement of the higher tiers.
: I think the main problem with Kat, besides Electrocute, is the fact that the rework didn't really solved one of the main problems with Kat, her ridiculously fast cast times. The rework was to attempt to make Kat, alongside other assassins, have a time to react to, but that didn't really happened with Kat.
Uh I don't know what crack you're smoking but they gave Kat a ton of time to react to.
Rebonack (NA)
: Since when did masteries give large flat stat boosts at level 1? The two systems were simply combined.
Not really. Mostly it was just masteries stripped down with a few runes built in.
Barkley (NA)
: The joke's on you. They're not masteries. They're garbage.
Vaermina (NA)
: There was customization?
: > [{quoted}](name=MysticDreams12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Qk88tQjR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-12-21T03:29:09.144+0000) > > Worst troll thread, I agree. > > Also, FYI, mages have been nerfed enough. Stop QQing and learn to play against them, you salty dude. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} Silver V lol
Rioter Comments
: With everyone running around with almost zero bonus MR, mage items NEED to have their cost increased
Worst troll thread, I agree. Also, FYI, mages have been nerfed enough. Stop QQing and learn to play against them, you salty dude. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
ISOzHell (NA)
: ***
Yes, I did. Stop being like that.
ISOzHell (NA)
: ***
Nope. Do you read? Cause I said I climbed because of my skill and talent. Meaning I didn't boost. Good Lord.
ISOzHell (NA)
: ***
Nope. Totally wrong. On my main account I climbed out of Bronze not because of help, I did it on my own with skill, talent, and a lot of patience. This account- first season I went ranked I got S2 so didn't have to climb out of bronze again. I think you're just salty, that's why you say its "impossible" to climb without help. When it clearly is possible. And that person isn't saying bullshit stuff. Be nice, and don't call out others on their rank. That's offensive.
IceJeleb (NA)
: Miss Fortune Support Getting Gutted as Collateral Damage (again)
Are you smoking crack? MF "support" isn't a thing, let alone viable. It's more of a troll pick than anything, let alone "viable."
: > [{quoted}](name=PupperBlitzkrieg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yqEtvs4d,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-03-28T05:58:17.844+0000) > > Syndra isint a very simple mid at all, more like {{champion:1}} or {{champion:99}} I respectfully disagree. Syndra is pretty simple, especially her R.
For a new player? No. Trying to get her combo down and her spells are a bit complicated for someone new to the game. I agree with Pupper, Annie or Lux are the best ones.
Eedat (NA)
: Uhhhhhh yeah it does because you always make these threads right after you get smashed by the champion you cry about. But hey, why figure out how to play against them when you can just cry about them. I'm sure it has nothing to do with your 29% winrate in ranked. Who needs to actively get better when we can just bitch?
Don't bring out someone's rank or winrate. That's rude and offensive.
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