Thilmer (EUW)
: It's Singed out of the meta or I suddenly got bad?
: Last Mechanic they gave singed made him less tanky, and is designed to cap at a max of 25 stacks of 20% MS. So a potential of +200%, which happens never. Meanwhile ~15 Champs can easily walk away from or simply outspeed him. Of the other remaining champions that just have a wall jump, or ward jump force him into having flash to properly match up against them, or god forbid any terrain spawning champs. Has an ultimate that is nothing but a stat stick, and gives ~2.2k/4k/5.8k worth of stats for the duration. Hes legitimately a different champion while affected, yet still is the exact same. Kinda a brute force way to keep a champion relatively relevant. Camille ultimate can fully counter flash spells if used while the enemy is affected by it. Meanwhile there are so many insanely poor interactions with pool & fling, or even just the grounded trait. Flinging onto a decaying Pool can result in no snare. Zac can jump out of SInged pool if channel starts after affected by pool debuff. FoW/Bush can cancel a mid cast of Fling (not animation, IT HAS A CAST TIME, AND A BAR). How is it that champions who have a jump can land their jump before singed can fling? Jax jumps ontop of Singed, cant react. Darius pulls Singed, can land an auto Q before singed can fling. Quinn head butts singed, but can outspeed fling, ok. Why is it that SInged is one of the only Champions who has no answer to Banshees, and yet they just keep buffing it? Has a champion whose effective AoE size can scale based on movement, yet has no way to maintain freedom of movement. As in Tenacity, or Phasing. The only possible way to get Phasing on Singed is Ghost / Phase Rush, as they've just removed the only phasing trait on an item.
> [{quoted}](name=Dumpsterman,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9LiOhZFw,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-02-10T20:15:26.109+0000) > > Last Mechanic they gave singed made him less tanky, and is designed to cap at a max of 25 stacks of 20% MS. So a potential of +200%, which happens never. Meanwhile ~15 Champs can easily walk away from or simply outspeed him. Of the other remaining champions that just have a wall jump, or ward jump force him into having flash to properly match up against them, or god forbid any terrain spawning champs. > > Has an ultimate that is nothing but a stat stick, and gives ~2.2k/4k/5.8k worth of stats for the duration. Hes legitimately a different champion while affected, yet still is the exact same. Kinda a brute force way to keep a champion relatively relevant. > > Camille ultimate can fully counter flash spells if used while the enemy is affected by it. Meanwhile there are so many insanely poor interactions with pool & fling, or even just the grounded trait. Flinging onto a decaying Pool can result in no snare. Zac can jump out of SInged pool if channel starts after affected by pool debuff. FoW/Bush can cancel a mid cast of Fling (not animation, IT HAS A CAST TIME, AND A BAR). > > How is it that champions who have a jump can land their jump before singed can fling? > Jax jumps ontop of Singed, cant react. Darius pulls Singed, can land an auto Q before singed can fling. Quinn head butts singed, but can outspeed fling, ok. > Why is it that SInged is one of the only Champions who has no answer to Banshees, and yet they just keep buffing it? > > Has a champion whose effective AoE size can scale based on movement, yet has no way to maintain freedom of movement. As in Tenacity, or Phasing. > The only possible way to get Phasing on Singed is Ghost / Phase Rush, as they've just removed the only phasing trait on an item. well said
Zerenza (NA)
: Aery is really good on a lot more champions than enchanters. DoT abuse it pretty easily, such as with teemo I and Singed.
> [{quoted}](name=Zerenza,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9LiOhZFw,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-02-11T10:36:49.844+0000) > > Aery is really good on a lot more champions than enchanters. DoT abuse it pretty easily, such as with teemo I and Singed. sure aery is nice for dmg, but late game is kinda eh but much more importantly is the rest of the rune tree is shit on him, so if he takes aery hes forced to take runes that don't work well
: Who picks conqueror on singed when there's aery, aftershock and grasp?
> [{quoted}](name=Lil Homie busta,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9LiOhZFw,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-02-08T19:45:16.115+0000) > > Who picks conqueror on singed when there's aery, aftershock and grasp? Aftershock: you can proc it easily, but as Singed you don't just want to stand there to get the dmg portion. Aery: better for enchanters and it scales with AP, and the 2. row in Sorcery has only bad runes for Singed. Spellbook: good but the tree is overnerfed and the 1. row is bad without good options, boots are late at 10, you don't upgrade Stopwatch. DH: overnerfed, the other 3 rows are really good and synergizes well with Singed. Predator could work, but your poison on minions stops it. Nothing is pretty solid at the moment for Singed.
: Why can't singed take phase rush?
> [{quoted}](name=kingDeDeDarius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9LiOhZFw,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-08T19:34:52.819+0000) > > Why can't singed take phase rush? just does not work well/hard to proc. plus most of the runes in that tree are not the best for him
wuthappen (EUW)
: If singed could use it with DOTS, then everybody with dots would abuse it so hard. Imagine {{champion:63}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:34}} getting 5 stacks (10% true dmg and 10% healing) from 1 spell, thats fucking insane.
> [{quoted}](name=wuthappen,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9LiOhZFw,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-08T17:29:29.293+0000) > > If singed could use it with DOTS, then everybody with dots would abuse it so hard. Imagine {{champion:63}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:34}} getting 5 stacks (10% true dmg and 10% healing) from 1 spell, thats fucking insane. I can agree, just a better rune that works with Dots or some sort of buff would be nice. also all of singed's dmg comes from his q. his e does some but its not his real way to get dmg off
: surrender at 20 is where I check, and I guess I don't see it in the PBE section... I just did a better google search, I guess it's in one of the PBE "Days" but not the general PBE outline yet. Thanks
> [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9LiOhZFw,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-08T15:11:23.584+0000) > > surrender at 20 is where I check, and I guess I don't see it in the PBE section... I just did a better google search, I guess it's in one of the PBE "Days" but not the general PBE outline yet. Thanks http://www.surrenderat20.net/2019/02/27-pbe-update-tentative-balance-changes.html
: Where is the information on new conqueror? I can't seem to find it.
> [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9LiOhZFw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-08T15:04:29.440+0000) > > Where is the information on new conqueror? I can't seem to find it. surrender@20 you can find or just around. a lot of people are talking about it
: Where is the information on new conqueror? I can't seem to find it.
> [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9LiOhZFw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-08T15:04:29.440+0000) > > Just because Conqueror doesn't work for Singed doesn't mean nothing works for him. Aery seems to work out well for him. I've seen timespans where he abuses Predator or Aftershock. Aftershock: you can proc it easily, but as Singed you don't just want to stand there to get the dmg portion. Aery: better for enchanters and it scales with AP, and the 2. row in Sorcery has only bad runes for Singed. Spellbook: good but the tree is overnerfed and the 1. row is bad without good options, boots are late at 10, you don't upgrade Stopwatch. DH: overnerfed, the other 3 rows are really good and synergizes well with Singed. Predator could work, but your poison on minions stops it. Nothing is pretty solid at the moment for Singed. from reddit user heccsater. pls note if I link others info they have already explained it far better then I could. and yes aery can do alright dmg but the rows are not great for him
Rioter Comments
: I understand that this is a bug that should be fixed, but saying Master Yi, one of the two primary low elo stompers and garbage in high elo champs (Alongside Trynd), makes Singed unplayable is a massive exaggeration. I feel like this is on par with some of Mordekaiser's bugs: They exist and they can be crippling, but how often are you going to see the matchup anyway? Would someone pick Yi solely to counter Singed, especially in a meta where he can't power farm well?
> [{quoted}](name=Ionian Vulpix,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=yEjIXx9q,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-29T14:48:32.417+0000) > > I understand that this is a bug that should be fixed, but saying Master Yi, one of the two primary low elo stompers and garbage in high elo champs (Alongside Trynd), makes Singed unplayable is a massive exaggeration. I feel like this is on par with some of Mordekaiser's bugs: They exist and they can be crippling, but how often are you going to see the matchup anyway? Would someone pick Yi solely to counter Singed, especially in a meta where he can't power farm well? I mean I saw it somewhat a lot last season in mid plat, and its been a bug for years.
: Master Yi, a popular champion, through a neglected bug is rendering Singed unplayable in high elo
riot will fix and cares about something that is not meta? that's funny
: Singed needs a poison damage buff against champs
as a singed main, I really enjoy his kit and I don't want it to change. I however would love QoL fixes like w doing dmg or ult giving tendency or even make his q do true dmg if someone is in his w or even stuff like making his e cheaper mana wise. tho if we are talking his looks id love for his old skins to be redone to look nice like hextec singed!
: With people becoming more and more familiar with Sylas, we need to talk about AP Bruiser Itemization
as a {{champion:27}} main I enjoy and count him as a AP Bruiser rather then a fling bot tank
: I need a friend
your welcome to add me! :D
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Tiamat nerf planned by Riot
singed singed singed singed! cant wait for buffs for dad!!!!~
: Following champs need buffs and nerfs [Brand rage]
might as well add singed to the buff list
: Wazzup PEEPS. COME join the preseason FUn : D (ENG/FIL)
: Adopt a silver?
im not super high up overall but ill help ya if you like. im a plat toplaner. if okay with me helpin ya just add me in game and ill be on tonight around 7-9pm est
anas14 (EUW)
: about reworks for some champions and skins
they are not meta and never will sadly, most likely will never be updated or changed-navi the singed main
: mhmhmmhmh
NeRf SiNgEd
CLG ear (NA)
: why did they gut taliyah
Taliyah used to be my 2ed fav champ, I used to play her all the time and I loved it! but then riot nerfed her to hell midlane and it felt ( for me anyways) bad to play her. idk it just sucks, id love to play a few games with her mid and be useful like she used to be.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: November 22
how does riot feel about singed ATM? yall nerfed him and then nerfed most of the items/runes he takes.
: play until level 120, gets no honor 5
lol you got lucky, it never put me past honor 2 and I was also level 5 last season, no chat bans or anything bad. just no one honors the singed main {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
: For plates to fall off at 14 minutes anyways...
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Navillus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qxX9LO62,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-26T20:39:24.713+0000) > > as a singed main and aswell most singed mains agree with you brother well no main of a champ who is legit battling for top champ in top lane wants their champ nerfed at all , i understand this , every one wants free elo right? but to say singed isnt over powered and strong currently and that he dont need to be brought in line would be denying the obvious. that being said i dont know if the fling was where the nerf needed to be
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qxX9LO62,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-06-26T23:14:44.443+0000) > > well no main of a champ who is legit battling for top champ in top lane wants their champ nerfed at all , i understand this , every one wants free elo right? but to say singed isnt over powered and strong currently and that he dont need to be brought in line would be denying the obvious. that being said i dont know if the fling was where the nerf needed to be nerfing singed is one think, the MD nerf and banner nerf/gone lowered his win rate and made it harder, the first q nerf I was fine with. but these new nerfs will make it a lot harder for most if not all singed players. aswell singed does very well in lower elo and he becomes much harder to play in higher elo. most high elo singeds are one tricks. point is that the new nerfs are to much
: That Singed Nerf was is so uncalled for?
as a singed main and aswell most singed mains agree with you brother
: It seem like my buddy no one like singed, so stop defending him.
> [{quoted}](name=ValiantKiller,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gj3sPR4B,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-21T20:02:56.865+0000) > > It seem like my buddy no one like singed, so stop defending him. fun fact singed has the 2ed most one tricks in high elo ( masters+). and a lot of the singed players and mains care but other then that your right most people dont
Umi Wow (NA)
: This is what we consider harassment nowadays?
Rioter Comments
Lapis (OCE)
: How do you find just one champion to play?
: Just lost a game cause our Top Singed decided
I mean some time singed does well or feeds it just happens and everyone has a bad game.
: Try to stay positive when you get back, the grind to honor 2 is long and the season end is getting close.
> [{quoted}](name=EpicEzio,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=czAjkMFJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-19T18:38:51.617+0000) > > Try to stay positive when you get back, the grind to honor 2 is long and the season end is getting close. im still honor 2 and ive never been dishonored. its just no one wants to honor the singed OTP
: Support diversity with the Rainbow Fluft Icon
I just want a rainbow to be a rainbow. I don't want a rainbow to mean something gay. like can I man like a rainbow and not be called a %%%%%%?
Rioter Comments
Devonis (NA)
: Looking for Clash Team
hello im a plat 5 ( plat is hell) singed main am also looking to do some clash
GodCarry (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=0044,timestamp=2018-05-13T16:58:47.862+0000) > > Show us the logs of all the previous bans too. If you got all the way to 2 week ban and still feel the need to answer/call people morons EVEN 1 time it means those 2 weeks taught you nothing. It is like someone that is on a home restriction leaves his house and gets to prison then claiming " Oh my god we can't walk the streets without being arrested" > What got you banned is not that 1 game. It is all the games you got reported to get you into that position. No. I got punished for this one single game. My games before my previous punishments are irrelevant to this situation. I was not toxic in this game, and making one mild "insult" is not contributing to the toxic game environment. Excessive harassment does contribute to the toxic game environment, which is something I did not do. Open your mind and wake up, or this discussion will go nowhere.
> [{quoted}](name=GodCarry,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=00440000,timestamp=2018-05-13T17:04:36.297+0000) > > No. I got punished for this one single game. My games before my previous punishments are irrelevant to this situation. I was not toxic in this game, and making one mild "insult" is not contributing to the toxic game environment. Excessive harassment does contribute to the toxic game environment, which is something I did not do. > > Open your mind and wake up, or this discussion will go nowhere. hey im back!. I just had a 24 hour boards ban for "threats" so that was fun.
: Anyone 'good' enough to help a totally random person out like this would also correctly identify him as an arrogant asshole that got justly wrecked. That leaves alt, friend, or shill. I would defend a cause like this, except he even gives proof of his own repeated and highly toxic behavior. Not a smart or nice person, and not someone who needs defence.
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=00000001000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-13T02:00:31.857+0000) > > Anyone 'good' enough to help a totally random person out like this would also correctly identify him as an arrogant asshole that got justly wrecked. > > That leaves alt, friend, or shill. > > I would defend a cause like this, except he even gives proof of his own repeated and highly toxic behavior. Not a smart or nice person, and not someone who needs defence. Hello im an arrogant asshole singed one trick nice to meet you, my mast 7 is on my S key and I spam it all game and one time lastly before I go gas some more guys "correctly identify him as an arrogant asshole that got justly wrecked." TOXIC SHOULD BE BANNED GG EZ but on a non joking matter no matter what we say or do wound change your mind or the way you think. I don't know this guy, im not a shill looking for whatever and im not an alt, cause I don't have an alt. Im Navi, I hang about and think freedom is better then safety to a point, and this is def not the point,
: Look, there are two types of extremes in every situation. You're going down the path of the robotic social justice warrior extreme here and your downvotes show that. In any given situation one side is not ALWAYS the rational side. If I were to say "We need to ban all guns" I'd be just as irrational as if I said "We need to arm every person with heavy artillery. I know you're not going to take this the right way, obviously, but I did used to respect you when you first started. Now it seems you're going down a path where the world is in black and white. The moment you see the world in only two colors, it stops being beautiful. A system is made by humans and should be managed by humans and cases should be presented in an adaptable, ever-fluctuating way, otherwise you make room for abuse and neglect. To instantly proclaim that one way is right and to take his comments to the extreme without considering any of the outliers, you have basically cornered yourself in a safe space where anything that deviates from the reality you set for yourself is a bad thing. I for one absolutely 100% believe you are not in the right state of mind when you make a comment about RARELY seeing toxicity near OP's level. I see it in every 5 games AT LEAST. Even in ARAM I get players spouting out negativity. Now you can decide to brush this off and vehemently deny that anything is wrong or you can take a proactive approach and think for yourself what SHOULD be true. You are acting as a positivist in the nature of law, and you should be between a naturalist and a positivist, lest you pave the way for the mindset of a cult.
> [{quoted}](name=Anti Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:57:15.887+0000) > > Look, there are two types of extremes in every situation. You're going down the path of the robotic social justice warrior extreme here and your downvotes show that. In any given situation one side is not ALWAYS the rational side. If I were to say "We need to ban all guns" I'd be just as irrational as if I said "We need to arm every person with heavy artillery. > > I know you're not going to take this the right way, obviously, but I did used to respect you when you first started. Now it seems you're going down a path where the world is in black and white. The moment you see the world in only two colors, it stops being beautiful. > > A system is made by humans and should be managed by humans and cases should be presented in an adaptable, ever-fluctuating way, otherwise you make room for abuse and neglect. To instantly proclaim that one way is right and to take his comments to the extreme without considering any of the outliers, you have basically cornered yourself in a safe space where anything that deviates from the reality you set for yourself is a bad thing. > > I for one absolutely 100% believe you are not in the right state of mind when you make a comment about RARELY seeing toxicity near OP's level. I see it in every 5 games AT LEAST. Even in ARAM I get players spouting out negativity. > > Now you can decide to brush this off and vehemently deny that anything is wrong or you can take a proactive approach and think for yourself what SHOULD be true. You are acting as a positivist in the nature of law, and you should be between a naturalist and a positivist, lest you pave the way for the mindset of a cult. good shit my dude. well done
: Far more rational stuff than your projection-filled meltdown gets exactly 0 upvotes or downvotes. You clearly have a giant arrogance and ego issue and cant deal with the facts that A; you dont matter, you are nobody, B; thus nobody cares that you got banned for flaming, and C; you crying about it and trying to white-knight for yourself has 0% chance of getting you unbanned. Also the storm of upvotes and downvotes within seconds just proves it is bots/alts, not 'concerned community members' speaking out against imaginary oppression.
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=000000010000000100010000,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:55:19.228+0000) > > Far more rational stuff than your projection-filled meltdown gets exactly 0 upvotes or downvotes. > > You clearly have a giant arrogance and ego issue and cant deal with the facts that A; you dont matter, you are nobody, B; thus nobody cares that you got banned for flaming, and C; you crying about it and trying to white-knight for yourself has 0% chance of getting you unbanned. > > > Also the storm of upvotes and downvotes within seconds just proves it is bots/alts, not 'concerned community members' speaking out against imaginary oppression. its not bots its real people. are you saying im a bot? I care about this guy and im sure others do. I see his points and I agree with them
Chermorg (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Creepy snek,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:17:19.670+0000) > > There is nothing normal about considering those logs to be toxic. > > Ah, so support agreed that the logs where not in fact toxic but they used them anyway. Got it. I said nothing of that sort. I said that *one* game of toxicity **may** be overlooked if the account is relatively clean. As OP admits, they **literally just had a 14 day ban**. This was their first "real" game back from a 14 day ban, and they displayed an argumentative, combative, and insulting attitude towards their team. That definitely doesn't bode well for OP saying they're not a toxic player. > Considering how low your bar is when it comes to decide what is toxic i can only imagine how amazingly low the bar is for you people when you decide something is negative. Negative = toxic. There is no difference when discussing punishment in League. If something is negative, it is toxic. Whether it is **punished** becomes another story - as mild negativity takes more frequency to get punished than more severe negativity.
> [{quoted}](name=Scuttle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000008,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:54:43.102+0000) > > Okay, basically it works like this. Let's say there's a toxic scale of 1-3. > > You can safely go to 2 if you've never been punished. As soon as you get to 3, however, your new threshold is 1 for being punished. > > This game would be a 1. But since OP *just got off a 14-day ban literally 2 games ago*, this was not overlooked. you gave a better explaining then the guy whos a mod. well done
GodCarry (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:51:26.549+0000) > > How the fuck is "Good smite steal fam" constructive feedback? It doesn't even give a single bit of information, just praise. Because unicorns and rainbows and gum drops. It's clear they're pandering to a small minority of support mains and extremely casual normals players with these ridiculous expectations for how we communicate in game.
> [{quoted}](name=GodCarry,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:54:08.609+0000) > > Because unicorns and rainbows and gum drops. It's clear they're pandering to a small minority of support mains and extremely casual normals players with these ridiculous expectations for how we communicate in game. dude I don't even know you and I don't care about knowing you. but as a singed main I will fight for the right to MURDER EVERONE WI--- I mean to do whatever is going on at this rate casue I don't know anymore
: Hi. I'm a normal player also. It's toxic.
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:52:19.620+0000) > > Hi. I'm a normal player also. > > It's toxic. hi im also a normal player also and I find you toxic BANNED
: Played 6 games today, guess how many games had a leaver in them.
some times shit happens and people have to leave. babay being born or the dog is dying or your food is on fire AND OH NO THE DEMONS GOT GRANDMA! but the riot support is a joke tho
Chermorg (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Creepy snek,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:17:19.670+0000) > > There is nothing normal about considering those logs to be toxic. > > Ah, so support agreed that the logs where not in fact toxic but they used them anyway. Got it. I said nothing of that sort. I said that *one* game of toxicity **may** be overlooked if the account is relatively clean. As OP admits, they **literally just had a 14 day ban**. This was their first "real" game back from a 14 day ban, and they displayed an argumentative, combative, and insulting attitude towards their team. That definitely doesn't bode well for OP saying they're not a toxic player. > Considering how low your bar is when it comes to decide what is toxic i can only imagine how amazingly low the bar is for you people when you decide something is negative. Negative = toxic. There is no difference when discussing punishment in League. If something is negative, it is toxic. Whether it is **punished** becomes another story - as mild negativity takes more frequency to get punished than more severe negativity.
> [{quoted}](name=Creepy snek,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:41:16.583+0000) > > I do actually. do what?
Chermorg (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Creepy snek,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:17:19.670+0000) > > There is nothing normal about considering those logs to be toxic. > > Ah, so support agreed that the logs where not in fact toxic but they used them anyway. Got it. I said nothing of that sort. I said that *one* game of toxicity **may** be overlooked if the account is relatively clean. As OP admits, they **literally just had a 14 day ban**. This was their first "real" game back from a 14 day ban, and they displayed an argumentative, combative, and insulting attitude towards their team. That definitely doesn't bode well for OP saying they're not a toxic player. > Considering how low your bar is when it comes to decide what is toxic i can only imagine how amazingly low the bar is for you people when you decide something is negative. Negative = toxic. There is no difference when discussing punishment in League. If something is negative, it is toxic. Whether it is **punished** becomes another story - as mild negativity takes more frequency to get punished than more severe negativity.
> [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-13T01:20:58.217+0000) > > I said nothing of that sort. I said that *one* game of toxicity **may** be overlooked if the account is relatively clean. As OP admits, they **literally just had a 14 day ban**. This was their first "real" game back from a 14 day ban, and they displayed an argumentative, combative, and insulting attitude towards their team. That definitely doesn't bode well for OP saying they're not a toxic player. > > Negative = toxic. There is no difference when discussing punishment in League. If something is negative, it is toxic. Whether it is **punished** becomes another story - as mild negativity takes more frequency to get punished than more severe negativity. I find you negative about this and therefor toxic by your own reasoning so I think you should be banned forever. what one person finds negative does not make it negative. it sounds like your got a stick up your ass if anything. also toxic and negative are not the same. you can be upset and be negative and fuck about and that is 100% fine. toxic is toxic, flaming for doing nothing wrong, telling your team to "eat shit and die" or "ima eat your unborn baby and curb stomp your face into my car" now that's more on the toxic side. however GodCarry was on that thin ice and he must have been toxic before hand to get the 14 day ban, and he did to the TOS to get to paly league this is all true. but he was not toxic that game and that's all im saying.
Chermorg (NA)
: >Most players in a ranked game would not have been as kind as I was, you don't seem to know much about the nature of League players. In fact, I only rarely meet a player who's even the slightest bit negative as you are. There were multiple instances of harassing and negative behavior, and I've pointed those out to you, as has support and countless other players. You're not getting unbanned. Riot has given you their answer repeatedly.
> [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=T7Hz2AEc,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-13T00:52:57.748+0000) > > In fact, I only rarely meet a player who's even the slightest bit negative as you are. > > There were multiple instances of harassing and negative behavior, and I've pointed those out to you, as has support and countless other players. You're not getting unbanned. Riot has given you their answer repeatedly. the people have spoken and most of use agree with GodCarry. from reading his things he was not trulym toxic. theres real toxic people in the game and I see them everyother game, and I mean real toxic. people need to get over them selfs and stop being uptight ashates if they are being one
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