: Nautilus lore - what's most important to you?
Hace you everything played Bioshock? Well, there you go. Big Daddy, he protects (Nauts a tank). He chases enemies (Náutico Hooks). He is "alone" (Nauts alone). The lore writes itself.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nekusen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4x20E5t6,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-01-31T20:30:36.813+0000) > > It's not a matter of balance though, the problem isn't that he is too strong or too weak, but rather that he feels outdates and isn't very enjoyable. yea because hes garbage now.
> [{quoted}](name=MaskedMorals,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4x20E5t6,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-01-31T20:32:43.656+0000) > > yea because hes garbage now. Like I said, even when he was strong he is boring to use, it's not a matter of power.
: aurelion sol was dope actually, then they nerfed him, then they made runes reforged and most of this shit is useless to him because everyone can burst him before he does anything relevant LOL
> [{quoted}](name=MaskedMorals,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4x20E5t6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-01-31T20:26:07.079+0000) > > aurelion sol was dope actually, then they nerfed him, then they made runes reforged and most of this shit is useless to him because everyone can burst him before he does anything relevant LOL It's not a matter of balance though, the problem isn't that he is too strong or too weak, but rather that he feels outdates and isn't very enjoyable.
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Nekusen (NA)
: [CHAMPION CONCEPT] Nerus, the Future of Zaun
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: > [{quoted}](name=TouchFluffyTaiI,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q9Kw4JE9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-29T03:35:57.479+0000) > > 1. She has hard CC now. That + permastealth would be too much. > > 2. She gets quite low in the jungle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-FkqMRqI64 > > 3. That's a possibility, although Riot is in general trying to phase out hybrid champions, as they usually have itemization problems. she still gets low have fun getting Counter jungled you would die 100% of the time and your oom at the blue buff when you start red
> [{quoted}](name=ThunderSkelett,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q9Kw4JE9,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-09-29T16:50:36.356+0000) > > she still gets low have fun getting Counter jungled you would die 100% of the time and your oom at the blue buff when you start red Also losing her main gank tool (early stealth), dont forget that.
: 1: Again, She has hard-cc now. If she was able to CC you from stealth before hard-engaging, She'd definitely be more OP 2: While this is a problem for JG Eve, She also fits considerably well into lane now, And her passive actually grants her *Quite* a bit of health. 3: While i understand the pain of losing a Hybrid, Eve will now actually be able to do large amounts of damage, And even has a built in engage and disengage, Not only being able do lots of damage, But also being able to assassinate and escape.
> [{quoted}](name=ZenithEevee,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q9Kw4JE9,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-29T06:18:18.973+0000) > > 1: Again, She has hard-cc now. If she was able to CC you from stealth before hard-engaging, She'd definitely be more OP > 2: While this is a problem for JG Eve, She also fits considerably well into lane now, And her passive actually grants her *Quite* a bit of health. > > 3: While i understand the pain of losing a Hybrid, Eve will now actually be able to do large amounts of damage, And even has a built in engage and disengage, Not only being able do lots of damage, But also being able to assassinate and escape. I'd take early stealth over hard cc any day. Eve already had an engage and disengage, already can do lots of damage and escape.
: 1. She has hard CC now. That + permastealth would be too much. 2. She gets quite low in the jungle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-FkqMRqI64 3. That's a possibility, although Riot is in general trying to phase out hybrid champions, as they usually have itemization problems.
> [{quoted}](name=TouchFluffyTaiI,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Q9Kw4JE9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-29T03:35:57.479+0000) > > 1. She has hard CC now. That + permastealth would be too much. > > 2. She gets quite low in the jungle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-FkqMRqI64 > > 3. That's a possibility, although Riot is in general trying to phase out hybrid champions, as they usually have itemization problems. 1- she had cc before 2- not if you play her correctly, i kite quite well and easily with her. 3- they have itemization options, not problems. They even made a hybrid mastery.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Nekusen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=000300000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-26T23:11:31.055+0000) > > If thats true, then he didn't know how to utilize her early stealth nor how to itemize her. Tell that to his Mastery 7 Eve.
> [{quoted}](name=TheLastShadow45,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=0003000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-26T23:45:46.591+0000) > > Tell that to his Mastery 7 Eve. ROFL, like lvl7 is something so hard to achieve. Lvl 7 is easy as fk to get, it's just a resource dump.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nekusen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=0003000000010000,timestamp=2017-09-26T22:47:06.168+0000) > > Better if you never played her nor care about her playstyle. > Early stealth + build variety that her hybrid kit had were her hallmarks. This rework shits in her mains. My brother mains eve and likes this new kit over her old one.
> [{quoted}](name=TheLastShadow45,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=00030000000100000000,timestamp=2017-09-26T23:07:14.318+0000) > > My brother mains eve and likes this new kit over her old one. If thats true, then he didn't know how to utilize her early stealth nor how to itemize her.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nekusen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-09-26T22:44:30.684+0000) > > She doesn't even scale with AD anymore. > Not having early stealth is a complete change in her playstyle, now without the AD she won't even have variety of building options. Loss of hybrid scaling is a plus for some and makes balancing easier. She can better itemize penetration now, which will be nice with her % max health dmg on E.
> [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-09-26T23:07:56.208+0000) > > Loss of hybrid scaling is a plus for some. It's not for eve mains. That was one of her 2 selling points.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nekusen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-09-26T22:42:02.610+0000) > > Stealth from lvl 1, no doubt. > Also, she currently also has a gap closer. Running kind of fast isn't a gap closer. The New eve is better.
> [{quoted}](name=TheLastShadow45,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2017-09-26T22:44:45.036+0000) > > Running kind of fast isn't a gap closer. The New eve is better. Better if you never played her nor care about her playstyle. Early stealth + build variety that her hybrid kit had were her hallmarks. This rework shits in her mains.
: Wait until she's at least playable on the fcking PBE and you have numbers values on her kit before making baseless judgements.
> [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-26T22:37:54.840+0000) > > Wait until she's at least playable on the fcking PBE and you have numbers values on her kit before making baseless judgements. She doesn't even scale with AD anymore. Not having early stealth is a complete change in her playstyle, now without the AD she won't even have variety of building options.
Rockman (NA)
: {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}} Evelynn has a gapcloser and hard cc {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} Evelynn is stealth'd from level 1 Pick one.
> [{quoted}](name=Rockman,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xYAQYf8z,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-09-26T22:39:06.568+0000) > > {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}} Evelynn has a gapcloser and hard cc > > {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} Evelynn is stealth'd from level 1 > > Pick one. Stealth from lvl 1, no doubt. Also, she currently also has a gap closer.
: Wait, so because I told you the champion you're attempting to rework doesn't need one, that automatically means that I dislike reworks? Because I fully support reworks, when they are NEEDED. Caitlyn is not in need of a rework, and even if she was, there are plenty more who require a rework first. Examples being Malphite and Mordekaiser. I am in now way against reworks, but just because YOU think a champion needs a rework, does not mean they do. Her kit is perfectly fine as is, and even it wasn't, your rework idea is way to big a change to her as a champion and would ruin a lot of people's fun with the champ.
> [{quoted}](name=EliJenkin,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=1JprcQXz,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-08-23T11:20:09.992+0000) > > Wait, so because I told you the champion you're attempting to rework doesn't need one, that automatically means that I dislike reworks? Because I fully support reworks, when they are NEEDED. Caitlyn is not in need of a rework, and even if she was, there are plenty more who require a rework first. Examples being Malphite and Mordekaiser. > > I am in now way against reworks, but just because YOU think a champion needs a rework, does not mean they do. Her kit is perfectly fine as is, and even it wasn't, your rework idea is way to big a change to her as a champion and would ruin a lot of people's fun with the champ. Ty :)
Rioter Comments
: Caitlyn is perfectly fine as she is. The only real change she needs is to her traps, but even those are relatively fine. This rework is honestly very pointless and would cause a lot of people to no longer play her.
The constant nerfs because of the strength/reliance on her traps is doing that now. Seriously, if you dislike reworks, that cool, but this might be the wrong section for you.
Arakadia (NA)
: Show me the the reliable polls you took that show most mains want her playstyle to change dramatically. Oh wait, you don't have evidence to support your claim.
You are just against the concept of reworks in general, this might not be the right section for you.
Arakadia (NA)
: Your still alienating mains and making change for the sake of change.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=1JprcQXz,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-08-16T05:12:01.926+0000) > > Your still alienating mains and making change for the sake of change. As i explained, this is kinda what most mains want, as not only she doesn't feel like a sniper, but she is getting gutted because of her traps.
Arakadia (NA)
: You would alienate mains imo. Too much change for the sake of change.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=1JprcQXz,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-08-16T01:47:44.636+0000) > > You would alienate mains imo. Too much change for the sake of change. Many complains are that she is too reliant on traps and she not feeling like a sniper.
Eedat (NA)
: "We demand champion diversity"
Why there should be champions like them that are not only very good in their respective lane, but also good in a lane where there are champions, designed specifically for that lane, that can't even be used there ?
: [MEGATHREAD] Let's Discuss: Caitlyn
Something like a said above, a suggestion for her rework: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/1JprcQXz-rework-concept-caitlyn
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: Ridiculous and completely unbalanced doesn't change with AR or regular urf. The fun factor changes drastically, since there's nothing fun about being forced to play something you don't want to ever do in your lifetime while staring at the thing you want to play or some broken shit and know for a fact the only reason its there is because of RNG giving a giant middle finger to you but not everybody else.
> [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lhutPBRg,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2017-08-15T04:36:49.063+0000) > > Ridiculous and completely unbalanced doesn't change with AR or regular urf. > > The fun factor changes drastically, since there's nothing fun about being forced to play something you don't want to ever do in your lifetime while staring at the thing you want to play or some broken shit and know for a fact the only reason its there is because of RNG giving a giant middle finger to you but not everybody else. Then, as i said in a comment above, URF is not the mode you want to play.
: Because it's not very fun when the enemy team rolls Shaco and you get to spend the next 15 minutes in fountain watching them slowly push your base while you afk (...because that's honestly better than wandering into the jack in a box minefield to fight an enemy with permastealth).
> [{quoted}](name=RavenMagus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lhutPBRg,comment-id=00020002,timestamp=2017-08-15T08:12:19.511+0000) > > Because it's not very fun when the enemy team rolls Shaco and you get to spend the next 15 minutes in fountain watching them slowly push your base while you afk (...because that's honestly better than wandering into the jack in a box minefield to fight an enemy with permastealth). Then it seems URF is not the mode you want to play.
: ARURF in a nutshell
Why are people so meticulous about URF ? It's supposed to be ridiculous and completely unbalanced.
: He doesn't do any of that in lane though.
> [{quoted}](name=NineTailedMystic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aNQxHgEN,comment-id=0010000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-15T00:47:41.958+0000) > > He doesn't do any of that in lane though. he does though.
: Veigar doesn't bully anyone lol
> [{quoted}](name=NineTailedMystic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aNQxHgEN,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2017-08-14T23:13:27.129+0000) > > Veigar doesn't bully anyone lol Bully: -Cage = almost permanent zone control -Enough burst to 0ko almost everyone -Infinitely scaling AP every time he hits a champion = double the reason to be extra careful about getting hit.
: Why are hyperscaling utility team fight mages able to bully assassins out of lane?
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: [MEGATHREAD] Let's Discuss: Caitlyn
I have a general idea for her: Normal Autoattack: Small pistol with low range and damage (or not having autoattacks). > Passive: Crippling bullet: Every 4 shots she gains a charge of "Crippling Bullet", her next attack consumes it and slows the target. Q- > Points an enemy from a dong distance. > Hold Q-key to "aim", the longer its channeling, the more range it gains. > (would mostly replace, and serve as her autoattack) W- > Throws a trap to the ground with a wire (max 2/3), (can be activated after a short delay), she can reactivate them to stun a champion near the trap and deal low damage with it (doesn't activate by itself). Can only be activated if she is near the trap. E- > Points at an enemy, dashes backwards while firing a Crippling Bullet to it.
: Because all (or most) of them (to some extent) are problematic. The standard 9 armor yellows means the jungle must be balanced for it, the MR blues for lane matchups?--same thing. The MR blues is what influences the Mpen reds too. AD reds being there for last hitting--champ AD values. This compounds when there are rune setups for certain lane matchups and someone takes the wrong set.
> [{quoted}](name=LostFr0st,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j25UIZTZ,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-08-11T12:46:49.880+0000) > > Because all (or most) of them (to some extent) are problematic. > The standard 9 armor yellows means the jungle must be balanced for it, the MR blues for lane matchups?--same thing. The MR blues is what influences the Mpen reds too. > AD reds being there for last hitting--champ AD values. > > This compounds when there are rune setups for certain lane matchups and someone takes the wrong set. Well, that would certainly make "blind pick" less random for sure. Im convinced. (though i liked my cheese unusual rune set)
Sparkle (NA)
: Runes Corner: Domination Major Slot Sneak Peek
Trophy Collector https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FuwGjaZg.png&key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&width=425 Seems bad, an hyper-superfed champion would only see a marginal, almost irrelevant stat increase, while remaining completely irrelevant most of the game, like an even worse "Natural Talent". My objection to this rune isn't just it weakness, but that i find all infinite scaling troubling in general (as many people do). Out of curiosity, what would "adaptive" entail ? will it boost the stat according to the champion, to the build or to the currently higher stat ?
: They are removing old runes since it forces them to keep many champs nerfed due to their optimal rune setups. There are also cheese strats (like full crit runes) which they want removed so they can actually balance certain champs appropriately.
> [{quoted}](name=LostFr0st,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j25UIZTZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-08-11T03:52:00.101+0000) > > They are removing old runes since it forces them to keep many champs nerfed due to their optimal rune setups. > > There are also cheese strats (like full crit runes) which they want removed so they can actually balance certain champs appropriately. I see the point, so why not just remove crit-runes (or the problematic ones) ?
: Runes Corner: Hunt of the Blood Moon Sneak Peek
What if you cast this with {{champion:27}} if his poison was toggled beforehand ?
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Nekusen (NA)
: [CHAMPION CONCEPT] Royal Apothecary
Any criticism/suggestions/sayingthatsthebestthingever ?
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Blitz100 (NA)
: Pretty much
> [{quoted}](name=Blitz100,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pxVptGjg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-28T23:13:01.750+0000) > > Pretty much https://media.giphy.com/media/5xtDarmwsuR9sDRObyU/giphy.gif
: New Thornmail on PBE
So this is perma Grievous Wounds or just when below 35% HP ?
Rioter Comments
: Autofill isn't the same as autolock. If someone does well despite being autofilled it's not worth a report.
> [{quoted}](name=Doctor Tork,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ik7ugT46,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2017-06-24T01:04:46.317+0000) > > Autofill isn't the same as autolock. If someone does well despite being autofilled it's not worth a report. Ah, my bad, i mistook it for an autolock.
: Why report them if they did well?
> [{quoted}](name=Doctor Tork,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ik7ugT46,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-06-23T04:00:20.379+0000) > > Why report them if they did well? You don't report a player for their score, but for their attitude. If they autolocked, its irrelevant if they feed or get fed.
: Playing support feels amazing.
"Dude was nowhere to be found in teamfights" Try following him around and ask him to go to fights. "Yeah, autofill doesn't decide games" I report autofillers even if they do well in the match.
: I like how ekko is so interactive in lane.
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: I think it'd be cool (No pun intended), if instead of the enemy losing a flat amount of attack speed, it instead made it so it slowed their attack and movement speed over time for being in proximity to them, up to a cap. I think this has flavor to make it stronger overall.
> [{quoted}](name=Angus The Bear,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VmQmt6xg,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-22T07:55:31.935+0000) > > I think it'd be cool (No pun intended), if instead of the enemy losing a flat amount of attack speed, it instead made it so it slowed their attack and movement speed over time for being in proximity to them, up to a cap. I think this has flavor to make it stronger overall. That would be weird as ADCs are supposed to be good in prolonged fights, specially vs tanks.
: The thing is, every ADC can do this with 2-3 items.
> [{quoted}](name=PrinceOfStorms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=f7APALMt,comment-id=002b0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-22T00:12:55.463+0000) > > The thing is, every ADC can do this with 2-3 items. Haven't seen many {{champion:222}} (to name 1) 1 shooting people.
: Exactly. So we need to either remove crit (and make lethality melee only, because Jhin and Varus should sit in irrelevance for a while), or reduce AA damage by 33% across the board so you have to build crit to do appreciable damage.
> [{quoted}](name=PrinceOfStorms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=f7APALMt,comment-id=002b00000000,timestamp=2017-06-20T07:40:26.691+0000) > > Exactly. So we need to either remove crit (and make lethality melee only, because Jhin and Varus should sit in irrelevance for a while), or reduce AA damage by 33% across the board so you have to build crit to do appreciable damage. Or maybe just work with the specific AD scaling of champions that can do this.
: He'd build triple dorans and mindlessly waveclear and not fight the enemy. Like most tanks do.
> [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bGrYWhzo,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2017-06-20T01:07:20.859+0000) > > He'd build triple dorans and mindlessly waveclear and not fight the enemy. > > Like most tanks do. Tanks build Dorans now ?
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