: > [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ynqro5Kt,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-11-23T16:14:36.155+0000) > > ....I mean isnt Rengar pretty much the same? He got a mecha skin. > > I´d argue that Jax, Xin zhao, Fiddle, malzahar are also pretty problematic fellows but they all got stuff very recently. > > Heimer too......like this champ might not be a problem overall but he is probably the singular most mentally exhausting thing to play against when melee/short range. They aint one dimensional tho. Diana literally has nothing but one combo and will burst ur adc at 1 item faster than rengar at 2 items. :/
> [{quoted}](name=KittyKàtKàtàrinà,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ynqro5Kt,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-23T16:30:08.754+0000) > > They aint one dimensional tho. Diana literally has nothing but one combo and will burst ur adc at 1 item faster than rengar at 2 items. :/ That's assuming that Diana's Q doesn't mysteriously not hit anything it's graphic goes over or her E doesn't push the ADC away from her instead of towards her, or any one of the myriad other bugs she's had for ages that Riot refuses to fix.
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=im small,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=K8xIq4PA,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-20T03:39:47.262+0000) > > Firstly I just want to say that I'm gay and I HATE when a character is reduced to just their sexuality. It's uncreative and incredibly boring when a gay character is just there to be the 'token' gay. However, I definitely don't see Neeko like this, but it seems that many people do. > > In Neeko's interactions she has like what, 10 lines max that show her crushing on other female champs? I don't understand how people think that's 'too much' and 'reducing her to her sexuality'. It's not as if she's running around screaming 'I'm a lesbian!'. I think it's cute how Riot have portrayed her attraction to some of the female champions without making it overwhelming. > > Secondly I've seen people take issue with Neeko's creator saying that she 'identifies as a lesbian'. I don't think the creator meant that Neeko would be the type to actually say 'Hey everyone, I'm a lesbian', but simply that she's just attracted to girls. > > I hate how as soon as Riot make a character that's canonically gay people accuse of them of catering to SJWs and getting too political. When Varus' lore was changed one of the major complaints was that Riot should've added a new champion if they wanted a gay character.. well that's what they've done and people are still accusing of them of doing it just for diversity. Gay people actually do exist irl, and in a game with 140+ champs what's wrong with 1 lesbian? People don't complain about Xayah and Rakan rubbing their relationship in everyone's faces, but suddenly when a girl champion makes cute remarks and crushes on other girl champions people accuse Riot of pandering..? I just don't understand. The fact that her sexual orientation is even mentioned disturbs me. I play LOL for the GAMEPLAY. I don't need or want to know about my champion's sex life.
> [{quoted}](name=Cloud273,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=K8xIq4PA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-11-20T04:42:36.645+0000) > > The fact that her sexual orientation is even mentioned disturbs me. I play LOL for the GAMEPLAY. I don't need or want to know about my champion's sex life. You do realize that there are MANY champions that make remarks about their sexuality, including at least one who is sexuality personified right?
Rioter Comments
: It's free. It's _literately_ free stuff. You can't complain about something when Riot is giving you content for _free_.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7Ni7gZ9v,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2017-08-25T15:17:56.807+0000) > > It's free. It's _literately_ free stuff. You can't complain about something when Riot is giving you content for _free_. Yes free blue essence which does literally nothing because I own every champion in the game and have 105,000 ip
Sraeg2013 (EUNE)
: It only shows that the ability with more counterplay for some reason is hated more. Listen, a Braum building tank with his shield up has about 80% damage reduction. If you have that much damage and resources to kill Braum with his shield up, then you have enough resources to kill 5 Yasuos at least.
My only problem with Yasuo's windwall is that it blocks from the center of his hitbox, meaning that a panic wall can block an ability that has technically already hit him. It's bullshit.
: The ult has a similar cooldown to other champions. I don't really see why it needs to be on an even longer cooldown than other champions, it isn't like he has the cooldown of leblanc or old irelia, spamming it every 30 seconds. It has, at lowest, 70 seconds (without cdr) which is around the same as most other champions.
Gives him too big a power spike for the cooldown it has. You can be utterly annihilating him pre-6 and all of a sudden just because he get's ult he can now stomp all over you. Though honestly I'd think nerfing it's min-range damage would be a better option than it's CD.
Saphixia (OCE)
: its pretty easy to beat malz in lane, but he does need a nerf on his w (probs the attack speed buff once you get 3) But what you can do to beat malz is keep his shield (passive) down. That way he will be afraid to dive you. Second, Pick someone ranged so you can farm safeky away from minions with his E on them. Third, In team fights, focus his minions first. The deal alot more damage than you would think.
Honestly I don't see the complaints about them they die to a stiff breeze in lane. I could see a nerf to his passive's CD late game because it get's a bit ridiculous but other than that he seems fine, and it's easy to play around in lane.
Shìkì (EUW)
: I think Vlad migth just be the worst mage in the game right now. Next time I get top I'll just pick Kennen or Swain, hell, even Morde would propably do a better job than Vlad as a draintank, and Morde didn't even get any compensation for the removal of spellvamp yet.
He didn't build WotA anyway if he built any vamp item it was Gunblade which still has it's omnivamp.
: Congratulations Riot, with this patch...
> [{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YE9Jjg9F,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-04T14:04:49.629+0000) > Singed player > I had a RoA and a quite stacked tear If you were a Singed player you wouldn't be building either of those items.
: I own every Champion, and ensure I grind the LP for each new one prior to Release... but I'm not even close to owning all the Runes or Pages. I could absolutely use this option.
You really don't need all the runes though all you need are AD/ArP/Mpen/AP/Atk Spd/hybrid pen reds, Armor/HP per lvl yellows, MR/CDR/CDR per lvl blues, and Movespeed/AP/AD/Atk Spd Quints, and you literally have everything you need period
: I think you can't get a Champion you already own, but you can get Skins you already own (which I use as 3-Fodder to make some Skin Shards permanent).
As someone who owns literally every champion, you can get shards of things you already own, just ask the 1700 blue essence sitting there on my account that can't be used ever.
: Very fews games are truly unwinnable. But people get into the habit of quitting every time the game gets hard, and thus start yelling "unwinnable" every other game. https://www.thatguy.com/wp-content/themes/thatguy/dist/img/modules/header/loading.gif
Yea but if they are breaking into our base while we've taken zero objectives and the gold is obviously well in their favor, it's time to hang it up.
Aazzlano (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HandheldBrandon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J11NQxcG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-03-01T14:00:45.191+0000) > > I don't understand why people think Rageblade is an issue. > > Irelia's who buy Rageblade aren't anything crazy to write home about. wtf? admittedly she is less common in games than the junglers who abuse it but she is still one of the worst offenders. she can kill almost most non-tank champions within the duration of her stun with no counterplay. it's a bit ridiculous.
She could do that before the current iteration of rageblade with Trinity Force, where the hell have you been.
: > [{quoted}](name=Paraboxes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=naqnZw1E,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-02-28T05:25:32.471+0000) > > Hey I'm a fizz main, and I'm just curious what people think about a tanky fizz? Same items? I used to play bruiser fizz in top and jungle, but quite honestly it's nowhere near as good as full ap fizz, especially since the nerfs hit him. I may be tempted to try this out, but I'm not too sure what items to build. > > Also, just something that irks me is that there is so much strong mr/ad items and only one for ap mages to build armor, which is zhonyas. I don't know where riot said 50-55 mr, but I agree they should be around there instead. I would rather go tanky with Rageblade/BotRK/Iceborn/Spirit Visage/Deadman's Plate (that's the build that I use most of time, not counting boots) on Fizz. Yes he doesn't do as much burst damage but the tankyness compensates for that. Guinsoo's Rageblade made bruiser Fizz viable again.
I dunno what about gunblade instead of botrk imagine the self healing
Smithney (EUNE)
: Oh, have you ever heard of HoN? Now that's what I call a bad community.
This, HoN's community makes this place seem like a cathedral.
: I've gotten adc as fill and it's the only role I'm not comfortable with so what do I do? they should make a fill except option
What you do is you don't queue as fill, fill by definition means you are willing and able to play any role. Pick 2 roles you're comfortable as and don't be a dick.
SSJTribe (NA)
: Why not both? Just curious, as I usually go sorc. boots, Liandry, Nashor's, Rabadon, Void, Ludens. Not necessarily in that order, but that's all the mag. pen that exists, right?
I typically go {{item:3124}} {{item:3146}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3009}} {{item:3285}} {{item:3165}}
: people run away when you ult them? {{champion:10}} bitch please. {{champion:412}} stfu shen! people still can't manage to grab my lantern!
> [{quoted}](name=ItsCalledALance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eEa9JXcd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-18T22:16:37.116+0000) > > people run away when you ult them? > > {{champion:10}} bitch please. > > {{champion:412}} stfu shen! people still can't manage to grab my lantern! But Shen's been around for much longer than thresh and Shen STILL has this problem.
Knoyle (NA)
: In no way am I defending how ridiculous Fizz is but before you touch him can you do something about {{champion:223}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:64}} Shit, the only reason I play Fizz is {{champion:238}} is in my games way too many times that it makes me sick and Fizz is one of the few AP champions that can potentially shit on him.
: 1 - He was going to survive even if he didn't E. 2 - This one was due to poor turret target selection (and poor damage in general), which does indeed need to be fixed. 3 - As far as melee champions go, Fiora, Ekko, Riven, Nidalee, Lee Sin, and Akali would have done the same thing.
: She even hit the CC. He just doesn't care.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sky of Smiles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bEa6EUqc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-02-19T07:54:10.321+0000) > 2nd dive: Fizz applied Grievous Wounds onto Jhin who was a split second off from getting his 4th AA Crit in that would have killed Fizz had he not opted to move around. The Sejuani also didn't use Skirmisher's Smite on Fizz which would have applied the extra damage to kill him even if Jhin misplayed vs a fully stacked Mejais AP Assassin. If Fizz had E out, he would have gotten killed by Jhin's 4th AA so in a way that Fizz played that correctly. Also slightly better CC chaining would have had him killed to tower damage
Yep I cringed watching Sej waste her Q while Fizz was still stunned.
: Downvoted. Not their fault you're forced to queue as two roles. And people downvoted my thread about making a "fill 4 roles -support" option.
Because if you can't play at least 2 roles with some form of competence you shouldn't be playing ranked.
: Well if you queue as mid and put fill second because you're fine with jg and sup, the 2 most common roles, then you probably won't expect to get adc
Expected or not, if you can't play every role well enough to at least not feed, you shouldn't be picking fill. And you CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT just auto lock Ahri go bottom and feed like a south african relief fund.
Rioter Comments
: Why would you augment the W over the Q? Q gives you a nice, noticeable movespeed buff upon augment. W just moves a target that would already be CCed - it doesnt make the CC duration any longer, nor does it make it easier to land.
It turns the stun into a knockup, and pulls all effected to the center making it easier to land multi target lazers and ults and whatever your team decides to throw in there.
: Ok {{champion:134}} can push people away from her with her E and Viktor gets Ms speed from his E
Viktor gets movespeed from his Q but ONLY if you augment it, and that's generally the last aug you go for as the double W and the E implosion are far more useful.
: You'd be shocked at how that so-called "elementary level skill" has evaded some players.
For some, I could understand as they are obviously not native english speakers, but for the most part very true.
Rioter Comments
Elewd (NA)
: it was an issue back then as well, they nerfed elder lizard BECAUSE of ezreal, hes gotten like 10 items nerfed because he works too well with them.
They nerfed elder lizard because literally EVERYBODY was taking it unless you were a full tank jungler or fiddlesticks, even toplaners were building it. It wasn't just because of Blue Ezreal
: Do you have a link? I would love to see that.
UoL even brought in old Poppy one game, that one thing made me a fan.
: Yeah honestly I think Iceborn should only work for melee champions. It's just too OP having it work on range champions. I mean getting out ranged and having an AOE slow put on you? That's a bit ridiculous..
Honestly if they nerf IBG for Blue Ezreal, people will probably just build a Frozen Mallet instead it would just delay the kiting potential because people would probably try to finish a sheen item first.
: Unfortunately, I do agree they are most probably blatantly lying to their playerbase. Let's look at two responses from a Rioter in the Dominion removal annoucment thread: When asked about keeping it as a custom game mode; > [{quoted}](name=L4T3NCY,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=jHxO08wd,comment-id=00120000,timestamp=2016-02-10T20:28:00.276+0000) > > Unfortunately, keeping Dominion available in Custom games still has the same cost as being a matchmade queue. :/ We have to ensure all champions work with capture points, items, etc. > In response to asking if Dominion can return as featured mode sometimes: > [{quoted}](name=L4T3NCY,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=jHxO08wd,comment-id=0012000000050000,timestamp=2016-02-10T20:54:47.603+0000) > > I like this idea. Always have. Something we'd certainly consider. And here's a big contradiction. If they consider keeping it even as featured mode, they'd still have to ensure all champions and stuff works. Which means that one of above quotes is almost certainly a huge fucking lie - there are two outcomes here, and none of them is pretty: 1.) They are flat out lying about considering Dominion as a featured mode in order to try and calm down people. 2.) They do consider Dominion as a featured mode and thus will work to optimize new stuff on that map. However, this means that it isn't the problem that they can't keep it as a custom game mode - but rather that they don't want to. Stick with the ~~Summoners~~ LC$BIGPLAYS Rift, kids. Aaaand Riot lost the last ounce of respect I had for them with this move.
Please don't misquote the Rioters, the question that the > "I like this idea. Always have. Something we'd certainly consider." was in response to had NOTHING to do with bring back Dominion as a featured game mode, the question asked was > At the very least,in place of Dominion,can we get a Featured Game mode rotation Queue?
Penns (EUW)
: Well its probably a small nerf to "godlike" Alistar players, but his WQ combo is pretty easy and more precise now.
It was already easy unless you were above 100ms
: And my uncle works at Nintendo.
When you frequent as many theorycrafting sites / IRCs as I do you tend to meet people and talk. Hell that's how I got into the Overwatch beta, I'm in a FFXIV guild with a bunch of blizzard employees, and everybody I've talked to in the company has basically considered it a failed experiment.
FrankerX (EUW)
: it seems like im not the only one who is really hyped for tarics rework. i never thought so many ppl are hyped.
Taric is a REALLY popular champion, maybe not in the sense that he's picked a lot, but in the sense that he has a specific, very flamboyant, very lovable personality and flavor that people adore.
: A) Link? B) One of their other projects is the biggest MMO on the market. Everything is a failure in comparison.
Unfortunately my sources aren't such that I can link them. My statement comes from IRC and VoIP talks with several employees and Devs. Trust me I know you aren't going to believe that but eh what can you do.
: HotS is way better than LoL, so LoL must be the worst game ever (not saying it isn't the worst moba) if HotS is a failure. I only play LoL because it's addicting, but I hate LoL...
I'm afraid not, HotS is just an oversimplified MOBA almost every deviation they've made to the generally accepted MOBA standards have been failed experiments. Though I will say some of the modes are good fun.
: By what metric and by who? As far as I can tell, it's as much a failure as SMITE is, and I think that's doing decently.
The company itself views it as a failure in comparison to it's other projects.
: And yet somehow HotS manages to have maps that focus on Capture and Hold. To be sure, HotS is a very different game, but I don't think capture and hold has 'core gameplay problems for the MOBA genre' when another MOBA does capture-and-hold successfully.
To be fair HotS is generally considered a failure in and of itself
: I would be okay with that. Was never a fan of udyr anyhow _Sarcasm please don't hurt me Udyr mains_
: > [{quoted}](name=BigBadBadger,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xN9sYnya,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-09T01:00:03.577+0000) > > They should make it so that if shroom would go boom _the instant it arms_, it still blasts even under disabling trinket, but shrooms already armed are still disabled. > > > Honestly using shrooms as regular combat ability is the healthiest play pattern he has, it should be encouraged not discouraged. that would be horrific and make them useless. just throw them in combat...
No, read it again, he's saying that if DIRECTLY AFTER the arming time there are units in the trigger area it blows regardless of disabling trinket. Not that they should always blow up right after they arm.
: I agree, him being strong would not be good. Not from a balance perspective, but he's just simply way to obnoxious if he gets ahead. The "They have also apologized for releasing him." that people throw around however sounds extremely overkill. This would mean that vladimir is the only champion riot apologized for releasing. Yet they've reworked, soraka, veigar, morde, etc. without even touching vlad after his chain nerfs. If he was seriously the only "mistake" champion in the entire game or even just the worst mistake, don't you think they'd of done something about it by now. As for spellvamp, while I can understand vlad scaling with it harder than most being an issue (e stacks) there's more compelling arguments than "lol vladimir" as to why spellvamp is weak. Namely, that the gameplay pattern of most mages would be incredibly toxic if it wasn't weak (imagine lux healing 200hp every time she E's or leblanc maxing out her health bar everytime she combos.)
I wouldn't put it past them, I mean I know one of the current rioters got in trouble a while back when they were working at Blizzard for essentially telling Unholy DK's and Rogues that they needed to learn to play after being asked if any balance changes were going to be made due to them underperforming by a large margin. And another Blizzard employee stated that Arenas were the worst idea they'd ever had and that they regretted implementing them.
Rioter Comments
: +1 on this. At least Gragas has his Ult's displacement is always useful, % damage on his W, the innate tankyness from being melee + his passive, and has a knockup (which is "harder" cc than a snare"), and is more mobile so he can be built tank. Tank lux is useless. With this change, she would be a shieldbot.
Honestly as long as it stops the "support" Lux players I see constantly they could do whatever they want with that champion.
HighH1 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Keevalroy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P4sroVsA,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-02-07T02:33:20.151+0000) > {{champion:64}} Look at me go! Dash! Dash! Ima Insec the shit outta you kids ayylmao #LCSPlays! {{champion:77}} Good,I always wanted a gapcloser
I actually had a lee kick me into his team.... while I was playing {{champion:3}}
: Silly OP. Don't you know there isn't lore anymore? That said, strongest champ in the game's lore is debatable, but the weakest is likely one of the adcs. They're just schmucks with guns and no powers OR real fighting prowess... at least they can't really take a hit. Even nunu throws MAGIC snowballs and rides a yeti. He's pretty crap though too, I will give you that.
Ezreal uses a magic gauntlet thing, and Varus has a sentient demon bow.
Thumpin (NA)
: I swear to god if one of my favorite champions gets ruined because of some cheeseball AP build I'm gonna be grumpy...
To be fair his devourer build path isn't that far behind the "cheese ball" path
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Switch out {{champion:61}} for {{champion:85}}
: I bet you are going to hate the upcoming buff to assassins hahaha
actually they stated they are going to be nerfing AD assassins to compensate for the new item (particularly Zed)
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