: This is Season 8...
A lot of people are quitting after almost a decade playing, I have played for over a half of a decade and i uninstalled last year. It is just not the game I started playing years ago and it was time to say goodbye. It wasn't bad up until they started changing shit so drastically you started to notice. It was also good for my mental health as well, I will be waiting for the next game riot comes out with I honestly can't wait for the new game. But it was time to say goodbye and I imagine a lot of the older crowd who have been here since the early seasons are just burnt after thousands of hours. Toodles {{sticker:sg-ezreal}}
Akaash (NA)
: People who think League is dying have never played a dying game.
Planet Side 2 is almost dead, been on a slow bleed for almost 2 years. There is an average of about 1,000 players on steam and maybe 1,000 or 1,500 playing through the client not on steam, that is a dying game son.
: When WW uses Predator
predator+ {{item:3117}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3800}} you can ult jump so damn far
: Why this game retains it's numbers.
Gotta dig man, I actually found a game I am enjoying right now (Planetside 2) My 2 devoted friends of which 1 has spent over 1000$ on league has pretty much almost quit. The other has nothing else to play so he tortures himself and I hop on occasionally if I am feeling masochistic. I think the biggest problem right now with people that play is they are not willing to try to heavily dive into another game and this also includes high elo streamers. I imagine a lot of the streamer audience is afraid to switch because they will lose a lot of the income they make and it is understandable fear. Neace seems to be on an indefinite break for awhile and he was a very educational streamer that taught me a lot of mechanics and different ways to deal with opponents. It is just really sad at this point. I would legitimately pick this game up again full time if Morello came back.
: The State of ADCs right now: Balanced or Broken... ?
you forgot {{champion:107}} exists as well, nothing more fun than being "outplayed" by a 1 shot
Rioter Comments
: As a Mid Laner, I feel Like Bot has More Impact on Games
: Vayne is unhealthy
I am going to quote scarra "if vayne is meta there's a problem"
SirΤeemο (EUNE)
: PBE is only for high elo players from NA , if u thing they will accept you GG
: Maybe if they used their public beta environment as, I don't know, a beta . . . we'd actually test some things.
logged in to say this guy actually knows what the fuck he is talking about +1
: Where's the actual proof that they said it'd be a range of 800-1000 though? I've not seen this anywhere.
go look at my post abot close to 700 worth, it's fucking bull shit
: I got a single kalista shard worth 1260. Idk if that is better or worse than the total of you champs.
you actually got more than i did, got about 800 or so BE, whoever the fuck decided this was a good idea is a fucking moron and needs to be put in charge of something else
Rioter Comments
: That new champion looks absolutely infuriating to play against
Sujiren (EUW)
: Fiora's greatest rival yet.
: What I felt after Ardent nerf
oh my god, still feeling the after effects of ardent cancer lol, it's like adcs forgot how to position properly especially down here in the depths
: We Need to Talk About This AP Assassin
fuck, you got me dude, that's a big bait
: Fearing Lollipoppy isn't cowardice. It only means you are sane.
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=kaisiT2i,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-10-22T17:41:08.122+0000) > > https://i.imgur.com/a7NdUfJ.png[/img] alright meme lord, this has to stop, one of these days i might pee my pants a little laughing at your memes
: What do you call a rank 7 Yasuo?
: blindpick
HAHA your joking right? fight with those idiots over positions, no thanks.
Rioter Comments
Yenn (NA)
: Azir is fine, right guys?
azir has been sitting in the dumpster for months, i think it's time to let him be picked in games now, HEY RIOT {{champion:266}} {{champion:77}} do something with these 2
: I find this a bit misleading- the midlaner has much more on-command Crowd Control and range compared to an ADC and in most cases never has to get nearly as close to pull off their abilities.
Dat Kat (EUW)
: I think {{champion:143}} is in a great position, she's pretty good. I don't think I want any false attention on her. LEAVE HER OUTTA THE LIST.
The name, it checks out sir, off you go.
: evelynn can now dodge karthus ult with her ult
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: You thought it was a champion Riot cares about https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/192357592876449793/364770393237618690/ItWasMeWukong.png But it was me! Wukong!
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: > [{quoted}](name=Flore,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GNI4W4fG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-01T19:53:26.105+0000) > > hes not the most toxic player of all time whos ruined the most game, just the most recent famous one. Step down kid. Point out someone more toxic that is known to the public at large, I'll be waiting. Step up **kid**. You are correct XJ9 was probably just as bad, but he is long forgotten by the public and has become a non issue and was never unbanned therefore it has no effect on my argument.
> [{quoted}](name=RedPannda,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GNI4W4fG,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-01T19:55:38.335+0000) > > Point out someone more toxic that is known to the public at large, I'll be waiting. Step up **kid**. > > You are correct XJ9 was probably just as bad, but he is long forgotten by the public and has become a non issue and was never unbanned therefore it has no effect on my argument. Pornstar Zilean, Tarzaned, Jensen, Rat IRL, A Wild Daddy, trust me dude there are people much worse then tyler 1, pro players get away with being toxic shit stains to, cuz lc$ money talks
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Dying or being forced back due to a gank meaning you lose tower makes the game very snowbally. It is gross how quick they fall.
: "tickle the enemy champ". Do you guys even play the champs you complain about? It's the same with ivern, camille, rework zac and the list goes on. HURR DURR SO USELESS SO BAD MAMA RITO PLS BUFF. Two weeks after the buffs and 60% winrate on average---> OMG RATTATO GEMS Y U SO RETARD AND OVERBUFF OMFG LUL SO BROKEN CHAMP!!!! First of all because this is the most read complaint on here: He is still A TANK and there is no reason for A TANK to deal a lot of fucking DAMAGE. Tanks are already cancer as they are because of the dmg they deal and the waveclear many of them posses crowding out actual bruisers. Second: He actually DOES decent amounts of damage. Maybe you should first learn how to play him properly. He has a good kit and interacts nicely with Q+E.His W already deals a lot of dmg and seeing the current PBE changes i guarantee he will be broken afterwards when riot overbuffed him. Third=Conclusion: He is neither hyper-immobile compared to a LOT of other champs nor does he tickle anyone. He is a tank and does well in his role, the few i saw did very well in the jungle especially.
: When Dodge runes were removed you gave us a full refund in season 2
> [{quoted}](name=i am Rubick Sama,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LIN5LdIs,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-09-02T10:04:25.201+0000) > > [http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1579176](http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1579176) > > and now, for some reasons you give us a 10% refund for all the runes that are being removed > > but it's okay, because league has new players now since then, and those new players wil white knight every single action you do. HAHA im dying, have an upvote, you made me log in to upvote, idk why new players think they have a say, they haven't been playing for years and spent thousands of ip on the old over priced runes, or bought boosters with real money
: After 5 years of League, I am calling it quits at the end of the season.
> [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KPKccG7T,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-08-29T01:16:50.987+0000) > > Make no mistake about it, when I say quit, I mean I'm not going to play much anymore aside from the occasional normal game and arams. I also realize that regardless of whether I continue to play or not, Riot doesn't really care and they'll continue to make their money. I am replaceable and irrelevant, I am not trying to suggest I am anything other than that. However, as I have spent quite a bit of my time - which isn't easy to come by - and hard earned money on this game for 5 years, I feel that the least Riot can do is hear me out. > > I do not have fun playing league of legends anymore. In fact, this has been the most unfun season I've ever had and that's keeping in mind some of the ridiculous fuckery we've seen in various seasons like the cinderhulk/thornmail tank meta of s5, the ADC meta of s6, the constant top lane mage meta top lanes where the likes of Vlad, Ryze, Cass, Lulu and Lissandra invalidate melees entirely and force them out of the game. I realized that those metas wouldn't last forever and I wasn't obligated to play through them rigorously because they'd change and that's exactly what happened. > > My complaints of the game have less to do with balance. I realize there's quite a bit of ADC hate at the moment but that's not new. Truthfully, I find that the balance outside of ADCs spiking a bit too early is fairly good minus a few classes - but that doesn't matter because even if balance wasn't good, it's always subject to change and you can quickly see annoying metas squashed with PBE updates and eventual patch changes. Long story short, riot is pretty transparent about their efforts and attempts to balance the game as well as be open about those changes. I respect that, I always have. It's one of the few things that's kept me around this long because frankly, I've been considering quitting for quite some time. But I have hope that's riot will adjust the current lackluster game. > > What I hate right now is very simple: games snowball too hard and end too quickly. Very rarely do I feel like I've had an opportunity to engage in riveting gameplay. If I play fighters, i split push and either my team understands how to play this way or they don't. If I play tanks, I rely on my team to follow up on plays, play around my zone control and not waste my deaths. I have very little ability to carry games because of how quickly gold stacks up for teams. This isn't exclusive to any class, no class allows someone to solo carry and I suppose that's fine but the fact that the games end so quickly now without me contributing much frustrates the hell out of me. > > I don't get to expand upon my potential win conditions, those are decided in the first ten minutes. Regardless of how well I perform unless I just flat out feed my ass off, I'm going to do the same thing and I'll do it with the understanding that I won't really have a true moment to feel like "I'm playing the game" because it feels more like simply going through the motions. Lane phase ends so quickly, one teamfight 25 minutes in likely ends the game. Dragons and Rift Harold are laughable easy to kill. Baron and Elder are laughably easy to kill. Towers do no damage and die to paper balls. The interaction between damage and durability go hand-in-hand to ungodly levels of snowball. When you're ahead, you melt everything and die to nothing and wen you're behind, you do no damage and die to paper cuts. I feel like the skill required to function in this game has been removed. > > As a long time DooM 2 player from the early 2000s, I'll make a doom reference: I feel like the game went from skill level of Nightmare! to I'm too young to die. I feel like instead of sweeping through the map carefully and dealing with respawning monsters, strong monsters galore like Revs, Archvilles and Mancubi, I'm constantly killing pistol zombies and simply pressing exit. There is no gameplay, it's been so watered down by its extreme pace that many of the finer nuances of the game feel lost. Coming back feels impossible, teamfights end too quickly, CC is out of control, as is damage. Creep block makes playing melees miserable and all of this is occurring with the foresight of understanding that the biggest and most fundamental change to ever occur will take place next season with rune/mastery changes. > > My response? No thanks, enough is enough. My time has always been limited but if I truly enjoy something like I did with League for so long, I will make time for it even if it means I lose out on significant amounts of sleep. I value my hobbies and my family understands this and encourages me to do it. But I don't value the current game and the fact that there's no self examination or evaluation openly taking place about the current game pace and he laughably easy amount of effort it takes to kill everything and snowball with games commonly ending by 25 minutes and instead a discussion about adding more broken runes/masteries to the game rather than addressing the former and adding another element of gameplay that further fucks balance and gameplay, I've had enough. This is where I get off. The game isn't enjoyable. > > And it's going in a direction that isn't addressing what I find to be massive issues currently when Riot is a billion dollar organization with virtual limitless resources in the gaming world - in other words, there's no excuse for some of the things being as bad as they are as you either allowed it to happen before it got to a point of no return or you simply aren't making the effort required to fix it now. > > I am finishing out the season because in my youth, I had a horrible tendency to procrastinate and leave things unfinished. In recent years, I've gone away from that and I finish everything I start. I intend to do that with this season but I do it with the knowledge that while I may quit, I'm not going to do so without at least getting these frustrations off my chest. But this isn't my only complaint, I have one more. > > I hate the current rank system that rewards players for playing thousands of games, making it virtually impossible to really demote. This cut off is right at my elo, right around diamond 5 (where I belong) and it makes my elo/rank bracket the most toxic and unfun experience because these terrible players can play 3000 games a season, climb this high with a 47-48% winrate and lose 20-30 games in d5 before even being demoted and all they need to do is win 5 games to get right back. You should honestly be demoted an entire league when you demote from a tier - I.E if you demote from diamond 5 to play, you should fucking demote to plat 5 where your terrible ass belongs because nobody should lose twenty games in a row in an elo where they belong, EVER. > > Once again, I realize I'm unimportant in the long run. I understand I'm a spoke on a wheel that will keep turning regardless of whether I remain or not. But I love this game, at least I loved it and it sucks so bad that I simply don't find it enjoyable anymore. I'd rather speak about how I feel and say my piece than silently fade off unsatisified. > > *Tl;dr there are so many problems with this game right now from game pace issues to creep block that need to be addressed first instead of going to an even more complicated rune/masteries system that will likely take all of next season to balance, further putting off issues that need to be addressed now. And your ranking system fucking sucks.* OP, just leave, i quit league entirely a couple of months ago because of many of the things you have stated, it will be such a relief to not play this toxic shit hole of a game, i actually play games that i like now and it is pretty nice, just leave and never look back. (logged in to upvote) +1 for OP
: Do any other Jungle Mains just HATE doing Krugs?
fuck raptors and krugs, the new jungle update was stupid imo
: When you get honored for Tilt-Proof
: Take Zed's Entire Burst Combo
> [{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YLE9hP0s,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-07-02T18:56:51.739+0000) > > And give it 1300 Range and make it instant > > {{champion:51}} Don't forget she can heal all of the damage you just did to her back to 100% from like 40 or 50% hp
Simurgh (NA)
: Let's Chat about Honor
Best thing i can say at the moment to make honor better would be to honor and enemy and 2 honors for our teammates, not just one person is good in my eyes and i would like to share the love.
: besides the ones currently listed, who do you think needs a rework?
: As a Zac main, the rework was a fuck up in many ways, but the biggest one was changing the ultimate. From a fun and balanced ultimate into quite possibly the most oppressive ultimate in the game. Really like the Q change, but good god, I wish Shrieve listened to the Zac community when we said revert the ultimate.
only a matter of time before het gets the akali and irelia treatment, makes me fucking sad
: Riot has no idea how to balance Black Cleaver.
let's make the item useless on some juggernauts and still useful on some adcs, an item designed for figthers and and juggernauts, classic riot balance changes, keep making adcs itemization path more disgustingly good and it's going to end up where every other laner is a support to the adc, oh wait junglers are building knights vow, only a matter of time before top laners buy locket now
: i for one LOVE the snowball fest this game has become
top lane is a real shit show this season
: How I feel when I miss Warwick's Ult and land in the middle of the enemy team.
Doozku (NA)
: Riot needs to communicate more with Champion Mains when it comes to big Reworks, Nerfs, or Buffs
: > [{quoted}](name=Frightning,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rTs440FX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-18T21:30:32.811+0000) > > Popular and viable is problematic because.....why? Viable? He's defining the meta. Again. It's not a coincidence that {{champion:60}} becomes popular **every single time** Lee does. How many junglers do you know have high mobility, high CC and high damage? So few junglers can keep pace with his sheer pressure, and only a few can actually duel him. Warping role diversity **is** problematic.
its because most junglers have shit sustain and clear speeds
: Most overpowered champions of all time
: Precisely! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} Joking aside though... Call me naive, but I have high hopes for this community.
mercra (NA)
: "Shitty person" ha. You mean "Just about All League Players?"
this guy gets it, the top laner ones had me fucking dying, keep diving that shit riven, kills are ez, you will get out of bronze in no time, just keep split pushing all game and don't get the top inhib
: ***
Bruh, you can't even type, maybe you should learn ENGLISH from the koreans
: I'm so glad Riot finally made a gender-bender skin!
koshkyra (NA)
: Lee Sin has a 42% pickrate in jungle.
high clear speed junglers are great because of how aids the new jungle is.
JoroA (EUW)
: What are your 5 most hated champions in order?
{{champion:103}} to much god damn innate "safe" in her kit {{champion:157}} this fucking champion, it's always a 50/50 with this guy, he either feeds his ass off and complains to the jungler because he fed 3-5 kills in the first 10 minutes and won't shut his cock hole all game, or he becomes a god damn nightmare to fight {{champion:92}} oh yes, i saved the best for last, every main that plays this champion or likes playing this champion is usually or if not even more annoying than weeblord lord tanaka mains, somehow everything she does wrong in lane is always the teams fault, not the riven though oh no she can't be blamed even though she fed tryndamere 10 kills in the first 15 minutes, then says how bad we are and disconnects and never comes back, she and weeblord are on par with each other in terms of the people who play these champions, the mentality these people have" i fed 10 kills, but it ur fualt jung " is more cringey than watching an emo edge lord comp on youtube
: Can we maybe NOT remove the crit reduction from Omen?
yasuo can build 2 crit items and have 100% crit chance, that's the problem with yasuo, he needs a nerf to his ult and 100% crit chance for building 2 crit items, it's absolute bull shit he hasn't been nerfed already, he is such a frustratingly fucking annoying champion to fight
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