: Bring Us Your Bugs!! Celebrating 10 Years of LoL
Fix Pyke Q, E, R hitboxes. Fix Ashe ult hitbox, fix Jinx ult hitbox. Fix Irelia E hitbox. Fix Lux q hitbox.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: July 13
Why would you buff an already extremely strong and commonly used AP item like Liandry's when bot lane is on fire because they have the worst build paths and item prices in the game so they just send mages down there because not only are they better champions overall but their build paths are so much more gold efficient
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 11
Are those Kindred changes that were talked about ever gonna happen?
: I recently talked about them with their original designer, Wrekz, and he had some thoughts as to how to get them to a more enjoyable experience. On his list of suggestions, he suggested stuff like (straight from the proposal he sent me): * Generally making marks a bit easier to acquire, but a bit less powerful per mark. * Marks being able to spawn in either jungle, rather than only the opponents'. * Reducing mark warm-up time on enemy champions to try and get a cleaner balance between champion and jungle marks. * Removing W -> Q interaction and just having Q's cooldown reduced when it hits a champion or monster. * Increasing W radius to let Wolf feel more useful instead of it being primarily a mobility enabler. * Or some other effect to accomplish the same goal of making Wolf feel more useful. * Possibly just base 550 range instead of the increasing range with marks. * If the above are a too powerful, probably some base stat or damage nerfs here and there. I'm mostly open to stuff like this being tested, though there's a lot going on here, so it could take some time to validate. If we felt more confident there was a specific kind of work that would be exciting to Kindred players as well as a pretty clear path forward, that would increase the likelihood we would take on the work. We get a lot of requests to do these champ readjustments, so frequently it's a matter of when there's resources to do it more-so than a desire to test something out. I (and others on the design teams) do tend to love these types of explorations, however, so when we do have that clearer goal to go chase, it's usually possible to get someone on board with going for it.
Please execute those 550 range buff and making W mean something more. Maybe a small range increase from your 4th stack as well but not the other thresholds. You guys have been talking a lot about opening up champs to other roles and i've been one tricking Kindred adc since release. These changes would make bot lane A LOT A LOT more managable while still letting them be a jungler. Just dont nerf the damage to the point where the champ is useless and i'll be happy. Also a Kindred skin please im desperate
: New Epic skin: Lancer Stratus Wukong
Nice splash but really dislike the skin overall
: > Ensure each Assassin brings something unique to the table This was said in the others classes updates, and with the champs changed, i guess its just bullshit. {{champion:133}} Quinn is an example, when her reowrk was announced you told us that she had no game identity, well, she had, but now, she es a weaker but faster version of {{champion:104}} graves.... well done. > Assassin damage needs to not happen literally in the blink of an eye. WTF? we have some problem here... cuz thats what an assassin should do, in a quick moment take the target, and leave without being noticed. So.... u pretend to make assassins a quicker version of fighters? Well, guess that remove assassin class from the game is whats gonna happen... Another point is the champs that were picked in the list... every single stealth champ except twitch{{champion:29}} and teemo{{champion:17}} is there, that means that or stealth mechanic is gonna be reworked, or (in the worst case) removed This time be sure to analise the champs place in the game, cuz every champ has something that makes them unique.... even {{champion:105}} fizz.... fuck that champ.... im really interested in where this rework is going, cuz some of my beloved champs are there, and im pretty sure the way i play them is gonna be ruined... So, last thing, please dont fuck up my hybrid eve{{champion:28}} {{item:1419}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3117}} {{item:3124}} {{item:3146}} {{item:3153}}
> This was said in the others classes updates, and with the champs changed, i guess its just bullshit. Quinn is an example, when her reowrk was announced you told us that she had no game identity, well, she had, but now, she es a weaker but faster version of graves.... well done. As someone with Mastery 7 Quinn, I'm confident you've never played Quinn before rework or after rework and never played Graves before rework or after rework
: Here's a post where you can ask questions about the stuff I've worked on, and I'll try to answer.
You mentioned earlier that you feel bad for all the people who dislike Quinn after the rework and I'm one of those people. I'm not trying to insult you or make you feel bad, I just want to know why her kit came out the way it did. Prior to champion mastery I played A LOT OF QUINN like pretty much only her. After champion mastery I got 80k on her. She was my favorite champion. I have a poster of her even. I loved her play style and honestly I felt like one of the far better Quinn's (not to brag) since everyone just couldn't play that champion properly as an adc and had to go for the top lane cheese where it was a pretty much free lane. I loved how she could dive turrets with her ult and just blow people up really like an assassin in some scenarios if they were alone and it was such a fun playstyle. But, with the rework pretty much making her ult a gap closer/teemo speed move with a channel time, you can't do that anymore. You can't go melee and burst people with your e q execute. You can't buy hydra if you just feel like messing around. You just removed a lot of the actually mechanics of playing the champ since the rest of her kit is the same except you amped up damage and made silly things like her q pseudo blind and applying passive and what not. Peoples complaint about Quinn was she couldn't teamfight but I never believed this was true. I think she'd teamfight fine if you knew how to play adc. Even in a teamfight, in the right position, you can try to assassinate someone if they split off a bit from the team so her ult was never useless either. While I never agreed with the complaints, if anything, you made her teamfighting worse by completely taking away her ultimate. It just seems like a pointless rework. Make the most fun part of the champion completely gone then buff the rest of her kit to be absolutely ridiculous. Really, it is absolutely silly that she has a nocturne ultimate for a skill shot. You didn't fix anything, you just amped up her damage and made her less fun to play and that makes me really sad. I just want to know, what in your opinion did you actually fix about Quinn. Because all I see is big damage buffs on her basic kit which could have been done without absolutely ruining her ultimate.
Ashmeme (NA)
: Says the _Kindred main._
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Ashmeme (NA)
: I main Kalista because I love having a kill button and hopping around my opponents. Man, who needs a jungler when you can smite more than the jungler can.
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: Loads of counterpicks, {{item:3143}} {{item:3110}} both are good against him, predictable mobility, which doesn't matter because OP will stand in the minions and let him dash. W can be walked around, Q can be avoided with enough practice (the first 2), E has a cooldown on the same target. One autoattack takes off his shield and makes him one of the squishiest melees in the game.
Not loads of counterpicks, yes good idea I'll build randuins and frozen heart on my mid laners and adc good idea, not predictable if the Yasuo is worth a shit, he's not immobile while he uses his W so he can just walk around as I do, Q is almost pointblank most of the time and you can't avoid the E Q R combo, he only needs to E once on the target to deal good damage by also autoing and Qing you for a crit every attack because he's Yasuo, Can't auto while a windshield is a thing, he always builds tank items so he's not squishy at all.
Salron (NA)
: Hey look another Yasuo thread. We totally don't have 6 other threads on the exact same topic on the same board already! And I really liked the part where you mentioned how he was indirectly nerfed by the Shiv changes comijng in tonight's path! Real nice! Yasuo needs nerfs but this thread is a pile of biased hot garbage.
Not worth mentioning since he's still Yasuo and nerfing shiv doesn't change that. Get your sarcastic ass outta here
: My argument is that Yasuo is balanced in high elo where actual good players play and he shouldn't be nerfed because low elo scrubs think he's OP. If you still think Yasuo is OP after Warlords was nerfed, you're just bad. Learn to get better instead of blaming the game.
But you're diamond 5 so you're not a good player.
: My argument is that Yasuo is balanced in high elo where actual good players play and he shouldn't be nerfed because low elo scrubs think he's OP. If you still think Yasuo is OP after Warlords was nerfed, you're just bad. Learn to get better instead of blaming the game.
Goddamn you are very clearly extremely toxic. But I don't recall the last time I saw Yasuo do poorly in LCS and they say they balance for competitive play. But you still have literally no real argument other than you being the greatest.
: If you dont like riots balance team go play another game... Its that simple stop bitching
I didn't say I didn't like them, I asked what is going on in their minds to not fix him
: Certainly a better argument than that we should nerf every champions that noobs like to cry about. Yasuo has a 48% winrate in Diamond for a reason, and the reason is because **he's not that good**. Winning with Yasuo against good players is already a struggle, and he shouldn't be nerfed just because a bunch of baddies in Bronze, Silver, and Gold refuse to learn how to deal with him.
You're entire argument is still "everyone sucks I am the greatest league of legends player of all time I am the ultimate." And did I say every champion? No? I said nerf Yasuo.
: People complain about Yasuo because they suck, feed him, and then get 1v5ed by him once he has 20 kills. That's not my fucking fault. I don't lose against Yasuo's because I know what Yasuo does. Yasuo isn't OP when he's played against me, and that means ya'll need to get good, not that he needs to be nerfed.
Yes you're totally right. Every single person in league of legends sucks except you because you're the perfect player. Right. Totally viable argument.
: Can people just fucking stop with these Yasuo threads? LEARN! THE FUCKING! COUNTERS! TO CHAMPIONS!
Read the thread and then you'll understand. I mean, there's a reason the threads exist so prominently compared to EVERY other champion. The thread outlines that he has few counters mid, where he is mostly played, while the rest are top. Just read the thread. Also I don't know how I'm supposed to trust the opinion of a level 9.
: yasuo received indirect changes when warlords was hotfixed and with the upcoming shiv nerfs he has a lot less burst
Already talked about in other comments. And Yasuo was ridiculous before new masteries and new shiv so that doesn't change much.
: Well you have to learn to not lash out because your favorite champion is fucking broken and is in desperate need of balancing. You ever wonder why people complain about Yasuo? I heard on the streets that its because he's too strong! WOW! What a concept! People ask for nerfs for obscenely strong champions? Who would have thought. Also I'm confused about your "less AD" thing. Have you seen Youmus? Early items have a bit less AD to be more affordable but other items got some AD buffs. Swain is really stupid though. No one plays him because he's so damn boring which is why no one looks at him. At least I don't see him ever, although I know he's a bit strong right now. This ain't a Swain thread though.
Also one more point. "Weaker" doesn't mean balanced.
: No no, we need to nerf RAMMUS, SKARNER and SWAIN. They're totally brokes op.
This aint about those champions.....
: No, it's weaker, and I am angry because people keep wanting to gut my champion when he's already weaker than he was in 5.21. Yes, he gets 100% crit with Shiv and Cloak. It doesn't fucking matter because Shiv is a joke item now and theres so much less AD in the game that the extra crit doesn't matter. 5.21 Yasuo with Shiv IE was way stronger than 5.23 Yasuo will be with the same items, and people still want more nerfs. Yes, I'm tired of the fact that my main, which has a 48% winrate in diamond at this moment, is constantly attacked while I have to listen to a fucking Swain main try to tell me that his 54% winrate champ shouldn't even be looked at.
Well you have to learn to not lash out because your favorite champion is fucking broken and is in desperate need of balancing. You ever wonder why people complain about Yasuo? I heard on the streets that its because he's too strong! WOW! What a concept! People ask for nerfs for obscenely strong champions? Who would have thought. Also I'm confused about your "less AD" thing. Have you seen Youmus? Early items have a bit less AD to be more affordable but other items got some AD buffs. Swain is really stupid though. No one plays him because he's so damn boring which is why no one looks at him. At least I don't see him ever, although I know he's a bit strong right now. This ain't a Swain thread though.
: You have kindred in your name and you want to talk about broken champs? Lmfao anyways, they're gutting shiv, which is a nerf to yasuo
Did I ever say Kindred wasn't very strong? No? Okay then. Did you even giggle at that because "lmfao" is a big exaggeration. And the shiv nerf still isn't enough if you read any part of the rest of the thread. Or maybe it is, I really hope I'm wrong. It just sounds like not nearly enough.
: Go through my profile history if you want an explanation
All I have seen so far is and your boner for a mediocre looking champion and you making large things that say "outplayed" or "XD" Also you contradict yourself a lot and say "weaknesses" without outlining one weakness. And you say QQ too much. Come up with something I didn't already didn't outline in the thread then I'd be proud of you. You once said "Squishy" but most Yasuo's I see get 2 or 1 defensive items so it doesn't really matter. Everything I read from you feels like really heavy bias. Not even just stuff about only Yasuo. You're clearly extremely toxic too.
: I've explained it a million times in a million different threads and I'm not bothering with doing it again. Having 140k on Yasuo just shows that I know a hell of a lot more about him than most people on G&B and you having played him little to none proves that you know nothing about him. All of you people would rather QQ because you fed him than get better at the game. I'm sorry but you people just need to git gud lol.
So what you're saying is you can't explain it huh..... Thats weird......
: Did you really agree with your own post?
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: Yasuo is balanced and has one of the most well designed kits in the game. All of you people on this section of boards think he's overpowered because you're all bad at this game.
You make a compelling argument my dude. You really brought up a lot of points and facts that now change the way I see Yasuo. I see that you also have over 140k on Yasuo, but I'm sure thats just a coincidence that the only people who have disagreed thus far all have over 100k on Yasuo. PS: I agree, we do need more sexy champions and skins.
: > [{quoted}](name=REALKINDREDHOURS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hEUEvPfJ,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-24T02:11:34.305+0000) > > Didn't I tell you to read it again? Please read it again. Also shiv is being nerfed a bit but its still I think stronger than the season 5 shiv. You're a moron. Shiv is now weaker than current Shiv until level fucking 18.
I mean I said "I think". Calm down dude. Still ends up stronger right? Of course I should expect anger and bias from a guy with 250k in Yasuo.
: Shiv had a ridiculous amount of damage for a waveclear item, and he's easy to shutdown for anyone i used vs him (Top:darius/fiora/maokai, Mid: anivia, lux, viktor, and talon) I just harass him with a basic when ranged before using a skill and slowly whittle him down and zone him out of lane if he dies it's a bonus but trying to force a kill instead of whittling him and waiting for a jungler is why most players have a problem vs yasuo.
Didn't I tell you to read it again? Please read it again. Also shiv is being nerfed a bit but its still I think stronger than the season 5 shiv. I said he has a small pool of counters, most of which are top, but not all. And I already explained the windwall, windshield passive thing. You can't harass him with basics. Read the thread dude. Seriously.
: Easily, just harass him with basics then lead him into your hits, it's not hard.
How many times I gotta tell you to read the thread?
: Did you agree with your own post?
: If you actually played yasuo you can easily shut him down I guess Me and other various yasuo mains do admit warlord bloodlust made him too strong but with the nerf he's fine now especially since shiv is getting an scaling nerf bringing yasuo down in power. He's still easy to shutdown
> [{quoted}](name=EcchiOtakuTM,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hEUEvPfJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-11-24T01:38:32.670+0000) > > If you actually played yasuo you can easily shut him down I guess > > Me and other various yasuo mains do admit warlord bloodlust made him too strong but with the nerf he's fine now especially since shiv is getting an scaling nerf bringing yasuo down in power. > > He's still easy to shutdown You realize that shiv isn't the only attack speed crit item right? Also if you can just tell me how to shut him down then I'd be thrilled because all you've said is "He's still easy to shutdown." How? I am aware he has a small pool of counters if thats what you're talking about so of course they can shut him down but I don't want to have to play those counters 100% of the time since we're currently in the "Yasuo every game" meta. And I did mention I have actually played Yasuo. Give it another read then get back to me. Of course he's not going to win lane 100% of the time or anything and he doesn't win every match up but any competent Yasuo should win a very large majority of the time.
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Good points dude I agree.
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