: Top 5% to top 1% of players on any given server Somehow arbitrarily not good because pro play exists.
DW Diana (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ylcwzFap,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-01T09:52:38.089+0000) > > 7.22 changes were adjustments for Runes reforged. > > Every champion had those kind of changes. > > > Zed has a 60-63% ban rate in Bronze Silver and Gold. > > A 50% ban rate in Platinum and a 35% ban rate in Diamond. Not going to downvote you for this, but he lost very little with runes reforged, while other lost a huge amount and recieved nothing.
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Loki1987,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ylcwzFap,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-07-01T14:42:16.864+0000) > > Not going to downvote you for this, but he lost very little with runes reforged, while other lost a huge amount and recieved nothing. Could you list who?
Thalassa (NA)
: {{champion:202}} Almost a perfect number
You have 5 up votes, I'll down vote you to 4 for a perfect number {{champion:202}} .
: PD is dumb as fuck on every champ that builds it. It's dumb on {{champion:41}}. It's dumb on {{champion:104}}. It's dumb on {{champion:23}}. It's dumb on {{champion:67}}. And it's especially dumb on {{champion:157}}. It's a stupid fucking item design and gives champions strengths they aren't intended to have while also removing intended weaknesses. Being squishy and easy to kite or squishy and divable are intended weaknsesses of those champions, and {{item:3046}} outright removes those weaknesses. Yasuo in particular is the most egregious abuser; he's supposed to be fairly immobile when he doesn't have targets to dash to but PD gives so much MS that he can perpetually stick to ranged champs or kite melee champs even without his E. As if making him mobile when he shouldn't be wasn't enough, it also makes him significantly tankier, again invalidating one his intended weaknesses. Yasuo literally wins matchups against bruisers that he's supposed to lose just because of this stupid item. And it's not like the item gives up meaningful damage for it's passives: 30% crit and 45% AS for 2550 gold is nearly golf efficient on it's own, especially on Yasuo who scales extremely well with both stats. In fact, PD is so broken on Yasuo that {{item:3087}} {{champion:157}} is basically unseen nowadays when Shiv used to be considered **THE** Yasuo item.
I agree that PD is a strong item, But you take away PD from them or nerf it, They'll have less power & be weaker when there are other champions that are currently doing a lot better than them, So it isn't necessary right now to nerf those champions who use that item, You look into other champions first whom are having a greater time than them. What bruisers champions are you talking about?
: How long are you going to let Rengar 1 shot squishies with just 2 damage items?
They gave birth to another Assassin building hybird tank. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
Flitchee (NA)
: Champion.gg is not accurate information.
: his crits do less damage, in fact it probably overall harms him compared to an adc who can get 60 to 80% crit with super high damage crits. besides that, being melee limits his hyper carry potential a lot. either way, he definitely gets outscaled by late game champs like Cassiopeia, kog'maw, Caitlyn, Jynx, etc etc. He's also just about useless if he falls behind in lane. if he cant bully you he's garbage.
Don't bother going into depth for a fool, There Is no cure for people like Xavanic.
: Shiv Yasuo and PD Yasuo might as well be 2 different champions.
First of all by nerfing PD you are nerfing other characters who have nothing to do with Yasuo, Those use PD aren't having an above average win rate either. PD Is good right now due to damage being high currently.
: > [{quoted}](name=NightmareAmazoX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=000c0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-23T00:58:40.702+0000) > > I am sorry Kid, But Riot showed us a statistic of 2016 in Review, Yasuo is loved & played by the majority of the players of league, Just like Lee in the jungle & lux in Mid & Zyra in the support role, These champions were the most played in 2016 & loved by the majority, The ones whom are hating are the minor figure in this grand place. It's a shame really, I called you mindless & blind, Yet you show no sign of backfire, League could always have more players like you, But it's not my choice to make, it's nice having you around the boards though. :) i dont want to make the same crucial mistake of going the ad hominem route in a debate. im just pointing out that when people find someone frustrating to play against, the precedent is to nerf the champion even if the win rate is below average. i dont particularly feel either way about yasuo because i never played against a yasuo, since i quit league before he was in existence. again, you are just taking my stating of previous facts as my personal opinion. Anyway, if people keep complaining about his windwall it doesnt matter who loves him, he will be nerfed. just like eve was way back in s2. she wasnt an issue win rate wise, and wasnt even an issue in high mmr, but she just wrecked low mmr and new players. And again, i really could care less, i havent played a single game against yasuo in my life. but you are really bad at getting your point across.
: Honestly, with how many times I've gone against entire teams that can nearly 1 shot an adc, I wouldn't be too opposed to that. I don't know how balanced/unbalanced that would be, but it sure might make my like a whole lot easier against those kinda teams.
If what I said happens, The game wouldn't be LoL.
Xavanic (NA)
: sure you can, just run around like an idiot
: > [{quoted}](name=NightmareAmazoX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=000c00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-23T00:21:40.310+0000) > > Kid, Say yasuo gets deleted, Alright, and then some players are going to play those champions and beat you, You'll be frustrated again, Your rage is blind & mindless just like you. no one wants yasuo deleted. plus riot doesnt delete champions. under any circumstance. also you are assuming i even dislike yasuo. i was just explaining the situation for you. there is precedent for champions with sub 50% win rate getting nerfed if the majority of the community finds it frustrating to play against. im sorry you dont like the truth, but if riot was to nerf yasuo, it wouldnt be something that they havent done before to other champions. i dont care who is OP and who isnt in this game because as you can see by my game history i dont play league anymore anyway.
I am sorry Kid, But Riot showed us a statistic of 2016 in Review, Yasuo is loved & played by the majority of the players of league, Just like Lee in the jungle & lux in Mid & Zyra in the support role, These champions were the most played in 2016 & loved by the majority, The ones whom are hating are the minor figure in this grand place. It's a shame really, I called you mindless & blind, Yet you show no sign of backfire, League could always have more players like you, But it's not my choice to make, it's nice having you around the boards though. :)
: That is what we call perfection.
I read that in {{champion:119}} voice.
Xavanic (NA)
: He can still charge up tornado then flash e q you because you can't attack him without putting yourself in danger
It's like you don't have a brain to know that right? Are you going to make a thread about how it's hard to use your brain or to right click to dodge abilities? This game just isn't for you if you aren't willing to learn it and just whine. League has a deep learning curve, If you aren't willing to learn & adapt and put effort, Then don't bother wasting your or anyone else's time.
: > [{quoted}](name=NightmareAmazoX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=000c000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-22T22:53:49.932+0000) > > Then why haven't Riot Games removed Evelynn permanent stealth? Why haven't they reworked Tryndamere? Why has Riven & Yasuo & Lee & Zed & Teemo & Rengar & Blitzcrank Thresh & Ekko not been deleted yet? {{champion:120}} {{champion:254}} are allowed to be Tanky,Mobile,And do a safer,better job at assassinating the enemy with a lot of advantages than assassins. Why is Syndra allowed to deleted a player's character from the match with a press of a button? > > I can go on for every singe ability & champion, Thing is, You adapt, You learn, You get good, Don't whine without looking at both sides, You don't just look at the strengths of the champions and abilities at their strongest scenarios but not look at their weakness? Everything has two sides, Just like Yin & Yang, That is what called BALANCE, You don't just sh!t without biting on something tasty or not (Annoying or not) & chew it & then swallow it. This person is a biased Yasuo hater, Get real. none of those are even a quarter as stupid to play against as eve was. and none of those are even a quarter as frustrating to play against as yasuo is.
Kid, Say yasuo gets deleted, Alright, and then some players are going to play those champions and beat you, You'll be frustrated again, Your rage is blind & mindless just like you.
Xavanic (NA)
: Yeah I forgot yorick's circle is weaker and has a longer cd...why does it have hp in the first place
> [{quoted}](name=Xavanic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=0000000000010001,timestamp=2017-01-22T23:26:35.159+0000) > > Yeah I forgot yorick's circle is weaker What the f***^$ does that mean? Go get some help.
Xavanic (NA)
: I'm just saying make it so he has to think about when he wants to use it, rat her then put it down and let your team auto win the fight
He does think and use it, It almost sounds like you got some issues in that brain of yours. It's like you are asking that the Yasuo player has to think but the enemy team should just right click on him & just one shot him, Call himself an MLG gamer and get praised for doing the impossible, At least you could give a reasonable fair nerf instead of gutting the ability to becoming useless without any clarification or logical explanation, pathetic.
: > [{quoted}](name=RavenHusky,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2017-01-22T22:42:39.200+0000) > > How about we tie his wind wall to his flow bar instead, so that he either has his passive shield or his wind wall, but not both simultaneously. > > Or better yet, just remove him from the game. Riot, you hire this man.
I'd be okay with that except you can't control his flow bar.
Xavanic (NA)
: It is broken though....he can effectively negate ranged ultimate abilites with a 15 second cd wind wall, that's a little overbearing if you ask me, even braum has a downside to using his shield yasuo literally has none
> [{quoted}](name=Xavanic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2017-01-22T23:21:34.782+0000) > he can effectively negate ranged ultimate abilites > [{quoted}](name=Xavanic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2017-01-22T23:21:34.782+0000) > > It is broken though.... Don't you give me this sh!t now. Go into more depth,Give me a logical explanation, I want CLARFICATION! Not some made up whatever the hell you say are facts words. Make me believe you are right, Proof it instead of spitting sh!t. The ability was designed and made to do so by Riot Games, It's doing exactly what it's supposed to, if you think it's freaking overbearing then give me a logical explanation, Make me believe that it is, Show me your point of view unless you got nothing except bullsh!t fantasy whatever the hell you want to make up facts words on the internet.
The Chained (EUNE)
: Ok, ok, ok. I know Azir just get a Warring Kingdoms skin, BUT I think that "pilar" above a Jhin gun is Azir passive. But personaly, as a Diana main, I really hope that is not ture.
: Hahaha, that's ridiculous. : ^)
> [{quoted}](name=metaknight412,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-01-22T22:54:17.170+0000) > : ^)
: > [{quoted}](name=NightmareAmazoX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2017-01-22T22:24:44.701+0000) > > Xavanic the person whom posted this is only whining for nerfs, I want clarification onto why should Yasuo get nerfed who's win rate is 49%-50% but not Ziggs with 52-54.5% win rate or Vi in the jungle with a solid 53% win rate? You don't just nerf Yasuo without a reason, That's not balancing, That's gutting. Gutting =/= solution. There are so much more champions whom are doing way better than Yasuo, But this person is crying out loud for nerfs without giving a fair reason, You know what's that? Biased freaking hate. there is a precedent for these types of nerfs. when a champion isnt doing above average but is just very annoying to play against, riot nerfs it until they remake it. like old eve. she wasnt obscenely overpowered with her stun, but riot took it away because people found it very annoying to play against.
Then why haven't Riot Games removed Evelynn permanent stealth? Why haven't they reworked Tryndamere? Why has Riven & Yasuo & Lee & Zed & Teemo & Rengar & Blitzcrank Thresh & Ekko not been deleted yet? {{champion:120}} {{champion:254}} are allowed to be Tanky,Mobile,And do a safer,better job at assassinating the enemy with a lot of advantages than assassins. Why is Syndra allowed to deleted a player's character from the match with a press of a button? I can go on for every singe ability & champion, Thing is, You adapt, You learn, You get good, Don't whine without looking at both sides, You don't just look at the strengths of the champions and abilities at their strongest scenarios but not look at their weakness? Everything has two sides, Just like Yin & Yang, That is what called BALANCE, You don't just sh!t without biting on something tasty or not (Annoying or not) & chew it & then swallow it. This person is a biased Yasuo hater, Get real.
: > [{quoted}](name=NightmareAmazoX,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=O0x8dqnp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-01-22T21:04:51.633+0000) > > Urgot>Galio>Akali or Evelynn? Akali got work in the Assassin update. They distinctly stated they wouldn't do double work like that so shortly. As for Eve, Meddler and Reav3 have stated she needs heavy overhauling because her kit and fantasy and original concept are disjointed due to permanent stealth. She's going to get substantial changes with very little preservation of her current kit design.
: Riot has said that they don't want that kind of gameplay with Yasuo's wall. They want it to be a tool to force repositioning, and making it breakable presents players with gameplay options that Riot doesn't want. It would be like if you could break Olaf's CC immunity of his ult if you hit him with enough CC; it provides unclear gameplay for Olaf's opponent and unclear value for Olaf himself. Not to mention that it would make his wall practically useless against things like MF ult which it is explicitly designed to counter.
Xavanic the person whom posted this is only whining for nerfs, I want clarification onto why should Yasuo get nerfed who's win rate is 49%-50% but not Ziggs with 52-54.5% win rate or Vi in the jungle with a solid 53% win rate? You don't just nerf Yasuo without a reason, That's not balancing, That's gutting. Gutting =/= solution. There are so much more champions whom are doing way better than Yasuo, But this person is crying out loud for nerfs without giving a fair reason, You know what's that? Biased freaking hate.
: Yorick keeps you in a tiny circle. Yasuo blocks projectiles. You're comparing apples and oranges my friend..
Lolz next thing they'll say is Ranged champions should only be able to fire a limited number of times and have a limited ammo system & make melee champions die to one auto attack depending on what hit them..
: > [{quoted}](name=NightmareAmazoX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-01-22T20:45:46.980+0000) > > Why do you want to nerf something that isn't broken and not being abused? Learn to play around it, I'd rather have Yasuo get a new ability instead of this nerf going through and make him have three primary abilities while everyone gets four. Or a win-win situation would be a more fair nerf, Like reducing his wind wall duration at early ranks & *ONLY* way he'd get his current wind wall duration back if puts some ranks into the ability. How do you play around a Yasuo standing inside his Wind wall? lmao.
: It'd make it better in the laning phase. You could also make the cd lower.
A better nerf would be reducing it's duration & *ONLY* increase it to what It is right now when the player puts ranks into it instead of putting into Q or even E if he is behind.
: Until he flings her
It wouldn't be a gas chamber if he flings her ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
: It's actually Urgot.
: Just had a game where my all of team mates were either toxic or trolls
{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} I hate love you but get out and please come back later. Good one. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Karthus Buff Idea
I hate good Karthus players with a burning passion but I want this buff for Karthus, That's how cool it sounds. But they should shorten the length of the wall as (nerf) compensation. He's fine as he is currently. So it's better not try fix/update something that isn't broken. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: Make it so it can't block any ults
Why don't you just say that he should be deleted/reworked. Instead of bickering brainlessly.{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Xavanic (NA)
: This is what I'm getting at, a poorly placed wind wall can still win you the game as it currently stands, you want to use wind wall as a defensive tool for when champs use powerful ults like mf or jhin, but it shouldn't just be used to block an adcs aa's to screw them over, as I feel this is why he gets so much hate as a ranged champ will either have to re-position somewhere dangerous or walk through the wall, both of which will result in them dying 9 times out of 10
> [{quoted}](name=Xavanic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tmGUuct9,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-01-22T19:04:07.227+0000) > but it shouldn't just be used to block an adcs aa's to screw them over, as I feel this is why he gets so much hate as a ranged champ will either have to re-position somewhere dangerous or walk through the wall, both of which will result in them dying 9 times out of 10 The exaggeration level is over 9000.
Xavanic (NA)
: Petition to put an hp bar on yasuo's wind wall
Why do you want to nerf something that isn't broken and not being abused? Learn to play around it, I'd rather have Yasuo get a new ability instead of this nerf going through and make him have three primary abilities while everyone gets four. Or a win-win situation would be a more fair nerf, Like reducing his wind wall duration at early ranks & *ONLY* way he'd get his current wind wall duration back if puts some ranks into the ability.
: If this change was made, you could increase the duration of the windwall as compensation.
It would make no difference and would be a pitiful half-assed funny useless compensation.
: I agree.
Agreed. Thing is, He doesn't need a nerf when their are other champions doing better than him in the rift.
Rioter Comments
: It's so e can use Wits End and GUinsoos easily
: {{item:3087}} , although it is actually shit on Yasuo due to clearing out the minion waves too fast (Yas thrives near enemy minions - he'll lose a duel to any other duelist without them, 100% of the time. It even gives him a chance against Fiora if the Fiora is unskilled enough).
It'd would actually lower the chance, You need to dash around minions to avoid getting Fiora hitting off her vials and one shotting you with her ult. You need PD.
: I mean balance-wise, though. Frozen Mallet basically removes his only counterplay.
Frozen Force build narrowed the line of Yasuo's counter play, Then he received some nerfs in 6.18, Mallet doesn't. You need mallet now a days because damage is too high in league.
dominusx (EUNE)
: you linked this to me so imma answer. I would like the old mastery tree's back and get rid of keystones runes i dont care that much tbh but seeing them gone will greatly affect my personal playstyle cause i'm an attack speed/cdr junkie . About not releasing champs and focusing on reworks i've been saying that for years but oh well. much rather make more broken shit over fixing the already broken shit
Thanks for your comment, Apperciate it, It's about that MUNEH
Ralanr (NA)
: A kanabo.
{{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
Faie (NA)
: It seems too cluttered. In champion select you want all your information to be readily available. On that note, why do you need so much space allotted to champion portraits? Also, the ban portraits have too much room covered up by the red bar. There also isn't close to enough room allotted for the actual champion pick interface (the grid). The beta champion select is pretty damn well designed.
Beta champion select is indeed well designed, Although I'd only want those banner types displaying the champions selected instead of a Circle having the champions face small icon. (Still love it though.)
Rioter Comments
: The game has been going downhill for years, it's just accelerating, though not to due to gravity.
G = 6.673x10 power -11 nm square kg - square Kappa.
: > [{quoted}](name=Yonsuo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2VmYPdXp,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2017-01-20T22:59:14.384+0000) > > Year but in my opinion so far it's garbo the beginning of every season sucks relax.
Preseason was supposed to be garbo, But now it's a whole season being grabo *cough* s6 *cough*
: beeing? your room was invaded by a bee? lmfao
dominusx (EUNE)
: Stop being LAZY if you wanna win.
TFW someone down votes you for saying good stuff. I C U Riot Games. I gotchu you an up vote. Also who is Boxerpete? Also what do you think of my thread? Do you agree or not? http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ly0OoNMo-why-have-masteries-keystone-not-been-deleted-yet
Ralanr (NA)
: I want my Japanese Ogre!!!
What's the difference between a Japanese Ogre & an Ogre?
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