Aladoron (EUW)
: Posting your unedited chatlogs would be nice. (Since the current ones are clearly edited, or Rito had a bug). Also, try submitting another support ticket, and hopefully you can get an agent with a brain. I'm quite sure this should not get you banned even instantly after a 14 day ban. The only slightly bad thing was you asking for reports, but that should not be such a huge deal (at least according to me).
> [{quoted}](name=Aladoron,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KAEefAdE,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-08-01T12:16:34.957+0000) > > Posting your unedited chatlogs would be nice. (Since the current ones are clearly edited, or Rito had a bug). > > Also, try submitting another support ticket, and hopefully you can get an agent with a brain. I'm quite sure this should not get you banned even instantly after a 14 day ban. > > The only slightly bad thing was you asking for reports, but that should not be such a huge deal (at least according to me). Here is the log I get directly from the client, to which I clicked "copy text" Game 1 In-Game Nithez: thanks for giving kayle 2 kills Nithez: i appreciate it Nithez: u 2 Nithez: keep camping if shes gonna keep pushing Nithez: nice Nithez: double kill you gave kayle at start u feel Nithez: how Nithez: i had no mana for baron... Nithez: i didnt think you needed me im sorry... Nithez: you guys gave kayle a doulbe kill for fb but im trolling Nithez: okkkk Nithez: im sorry xerath please stop calling me a %%%%%% Nithez: no i havent Nithez: what i do Nithez: eve called me a %%% Nithez: plz report Also, I opened up another ticket and explained the situation. I really hope this person can look at it from my perspective, and see that I was not using the slur towards anyone, and just wanted him to stop calling me it. I even explained that I would be fine with another long ban, simply because I did ask for a report on the wrong person, and did type the slur (even though it was not directed at anyone).
: Please , unedited chatlogs :)
> [{quoted}](name=The Anivia OTP,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KAEefAdE,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-08-01T00:05:41.858+0000) > > Please , unedited chatlogs :) Here is the unedited logs that I was provided: Game 3109469809: Nithez: thanks for giving kayle 2 kills Nithez: i appreciate it Nithez: u 2 Nithez: keep camping if shes gonna keep pushing [All]Nithez: nice Nithez: double kill you gave kayle at start u feel Nithez: how Nithez: i had no mana for baron... Nithez: i didnt think you needed me im sorry... Nithez: you guys gave kayle a doulbe kill for fb but im trolling Nithez: okkkk Nithez: im sorry xerath please stop calling me a %%%%%% Nithez: no i havent Nithez: what i do [All]Nithez: eve called me a %%% [All]Nithez: plz report Post Game Lobby:
: Please keep us updated If you continue to appeal your case with Player Support.
> [{quoted}](name=12 SHAOLIN MONKS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KAEefAdE,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-07-31T23:41:05.064+0000) > > Please keep us updated If you continue to appeal your case with Player Support. Lost the case. The person said there was nothing they could do because I said the word, and because I accidentally said to report the wrong person. I explained the context of it, how I was just asking them to stop, and how I didnt respond to ANY of the other flame the dude was throwing at me (there was a lot). He said I have to live and learn. Couldn't even reduce the punishment, even after I told him the circumstances and explained everything. This sucks
rujitra (NA)
: Have you talked with support yet? If you explain in a polite way that you didn't know this was against the rules and thought you were actually helping League by getting more reports on the player, even though you know now that's not acceptable, they may make an exception. Key word is may, they aren't by any means obligated to.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KAEefAdE,comment-id=000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T17:51:21.910+0000) > > Have you talked with support yet? If you explain in a polite way that you didn't know this was against the rules and thought you were actually helping League by getting more reports on the player, even though you know now that's not acceptable, they may make an exception. Key word is may, they aren't by any means obligated to. Yep, the person said he couldn't do anything because of the false report, and because I asked the Xerath to stop calling me it, and in doing so I typed the slur. Feels freaking bad man. I did explain in a very polite way, but I also didn't know asking for reports wasn't allowed, and that 1 report = 9 reports. I would say live and learn, but this is the end of my league days, so I guess just learn. Thanks for the help though, it's greatly appreciated.
rujitra (NA)
: Right, I'm just pointing out that Ornn (OCE) said that "players should never be permi banned unless... and hate speech" - which means he thinks there was no hate speech, which there is. To be completely fair, it's hate speech regardless of who it's directed at. However, if you have a relatively clean history since your last punishment and are up front and honest with Riot Support, they may consider a one time "courtesy" reduction of this penalty. In any of your prior penalties (chat restrictions or suspensions) did any of them involve things like report calling/rallying or "pointing out" things in all chat?
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KAEefAdE,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T05:36:23.278+0000) > > Right, I'm just pointing out that Ornn (OCE) said that "players should never be permi banned unless... and hate speech" - which means he thinks there was no hate speech, which there is. > > To be completely fair, it's hate speech regardless of who it's directed at. However, if you have a relatively clean history since your last punishment and are up front and honest with Riot Support, they may consider a one time "courtesy" reduction of this penalty. > > In any of your prior penalties (chat restrictions or suspensions) did any of them involve things like report calling/rallying or "pointing out" things in all chat? No, previous 2 week suspension was for verbal abuse (rightly deserved), but never for asking for reports or anything like that. And I've had an amazingly clean history since the ban, didn't want to lose the account I've had since season 2. Didn't know asking the dude to stop calling me it would get me banned, as well as asking for the enemy team to report him. What a crappy way to end my league career :(.
rujitra (NA)
: The two censored words are hate speech.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KAEefAdE,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-07-31T03:39:57.689+0000) > > The two censored words are hate speech. I understand that they are, but I was not directing them at anyone at all. I simply asked him to stop calling me it, and told the enemy what he said so as to make sure they reported him and he got the ban he deserves (which he did). The context is very important in this situation.
Kei143 (NA)
: Somehow... I have a gut feeling that OP is one of those that falsely claim someone said bad words and is trying to get others to report the other player and get banned for it.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KAEefAdE,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T02:56:06.240+0000) > > Somehow... I have a gut feeling that OP is one of those that falsely claim someone said bad words and is trying to get others to report the other player and get banned for it. Unfortunately, that isn't the case. The Xerath flamed me because I didn't help them with baron, insulting me and calling me a f**, and typing in call caps. The whole reason I accidentally said "Report eve" instead of Xerath is because she had been coming to my defense and telling the dude to chill the fuck out. I wish I could retrieve all the logs and show you. EDIT: The guy that flamed me got a ban, logged onto my account and got a message that a player I had reported had been banned. Yay!
Ornn (OCE)
: and this is all the proof you need that riots punishment system is extrememly bad and flawed out of our minds. players shoud never be permi banned unless its actualy threats harassment abuse and hate speach. This is a joke and needs to be fixed ASAP
> [{quoted}](name=Ornn,realm=OCE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KAEefAdE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-31T02:15:43.766+0000) > > and this is all the proof you need that riots punishment system is extrememly bad and flawed out of our minds. players shoud never be permi banned unless its actualy threats harassment abuse and hate speach. This is a joke and needs to be fixed ASAP Yea, I'm getting permabanned for accidentally saying for the wrong guy to report me. What a great time!
: Because you repeated stupid shit (zero tolerance) and had a previous 14 day ban. You can try to submit a support ticket since that seems to be the worse of it. Assuming no other logs.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KAEefAdE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-31T02:05:24.093+0000) > > Because you repeated stupid shit (zero tolerance) and had a previous 14 day ban. You can try to submit a support ticket since that seems to be the worse of it. Assuming no other logs. Did submit a ticket, dude said I was using the slurs and because of the false report. There are no other logs. I originally thought there was a mistake because it was just that log, with everything I copy and pasted being the entirety. I understand the 0 tolerance... but we are humans, we should use context to look at situations. Not using it towards anyone remotely, just wanted the dude calling me it to stop, and then asking the enemy to report him by letting them know what he was calling me. I'm so mindblown that this is the final nail in the coffin, not me actually being toxic and deserving it.
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Nithez (NA)
: Does Riot ever ban people for screwing up people's games one time?
Maximum punishment? All I said is there should be consequences, not maximum punishment.
: KYS is never an appropriate response
I understand that you guys both have a more personal take on this, but just mute them after they say anything toxic so as to not further offend you. If your friend does that and still goes into a suicidal spiral after one random person on the internet says something like that, he should probably go talk to someone about it, or must /muteall and the start of the game. It sucks that you have to take measures like this, but like monster said... people can say mostly whatever they want without repercussions.
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: Patch 6.15 notes
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Proteros (NA)
: Oh, I see. Delete my thread. Here's a less deletable post about how I think this community is ...
: The indefinite banning of Tyler1
I'm actually happy Riot banned that toxic fuck. :)

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