ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: As someone who just hat 2 games, back to back, where he was first the worst, then the best player on the team (even op.gg analysis agrees), there are a lot more factors that can make the difference between how you perform each game. Champion experience and familiarity, matchups, tilt, getting camped etc. And it's always been that way. That is why sometimes, when you check past matches of the guy who did the worst this game, you see he carried in others. Edit: Also add role familiarity, and teamcomp synergy.
> [{quoted}](name=ZaFishbone,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AZEZVxpa,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-05-23T07:56:42.689+0000) > > As someone who just hat 2 games, back to back, where he was first the worst, then the best player on the team (even op.gg analysis agrees), there are a lot more factors that can make the difference between how you perform each game. Champion experience and familiarity, matchups, tilt, getting camped etc. And it's always been that way. That is why sometimes, when you check past matches of the guy who did the worst this game, you see he carried in others. > > Edit: Also add role familiarity, and teamcomp synergy. No I'm talking about the guy who averages 10+ deaths a game but still wins because he is lucky. Many of those exist but it happens so often I started keeping track because I curious.
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Yets4240 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=NoGanksTop,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hLyBEKAw,comment-id=00050002,timestamp=2019-05-13T17:16:54.846+0000) > > He only has a slightly higher than 50% win rate though after the nerfs. Meanwhile Riven "nerfs" correspond to a slight increase in winrate. Glad RIOT is going after the problem champions, and totally not leaving cancer unjustifiably strong for far too long in the meanwhile. /s
> [{quoted}](name=Yets4240,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hLyBEKAw,comment-id=000500020000,timestamp=2019-05-13T18:03:20.508+0000) > > Meanwhile Riven "nerfs" correspond to a slight increase in winrate. Glad RIOT is going after the problem champions, and totally not leaving cancer unjustifiably strong for far too long in the meanwhile. /s Hecarim was to strong before the nerfs. He still is strong but not op. Most people don't even pick or ban him. He gets easily focused and killed if you have competent people. He is actually crazy squishy especially in the early game because he goes warrior and tri force.
: RN i have to permaban Hecarim. It's ridiculous. At least with Riven and Vayne, they aren't actually Unstoppable, but Hecarim's god-tier ganks and amazing ultimate make teamfighting and laning phase IMPOSSIBLE. "Just buy wards" I did. I saw him. I couldn't run fast enough.
> [{quoted}](name=Worst Summoner,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hLyBEKAw,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-05-13T02:08:06.266+0000) > > RN i have to permaban Hecarim. It's ridiculous. At least with Riven and Vayne, they aren't actually Unstoppable, but Hecarim's god-tier ganks and amazing ultimate make teamfighting and laning phase IMPOSSIBLE. > > "Just buy wards" > > I did. I saw him. I couldn't run fast enough. He only has a slightly higher than 50% win rate though after the nerfs.
: They're not gonna do anything about it. They just let it be at this point. No compensation for losing a game from someone purposefully feeding.
> [{quoted}](name=Badboykiller0,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xgKEEmF5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-11T02:43:21.096+0000) > > They're not gonna do anything about it. They just let it be at this point. No compensation for losing a game from someone purposefully feeding. But what gets me is they tried to combat "toxic" behavior so much. Maybe start punishing the people who insight people to become toxic through trolling.
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: Unbalanced game ..
The game is targeted towards children. Children don't like slower paced methodical game play. They like fast paced I kill you in 3 seconds game play because there is instant gratification. It is dumb but it's just how it is.
: Replace Riot with blizzard and lol or league of legends with overwatch or wow
> [{quoted}](name=MyBackFlipFailed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iib8rR0y,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-27T12:24:10.757+0000) > > Replace Riot with blizzard and lol or league of legends with Overwatch or wow I can't speak for Overwatch but I can speak for wow as I played it off and on for about 10 years. I played wow at a pretty high level and that is where you should encounter the most toxicity because you play with the more serious players. I can safely say I never had to deal with nearly as much toxicity as I do on this game. Like not even close. On wow I could also fire back a bit to a person talking smack and not have to worry about getting banned because of it. Also wow isn't really a far compassion because on wow you can pretty much leave whatever you're doing without being punished for it. On this game you're stuck in the game until it ends.
IkOerman (EUW)
: What is even worse, is that when you have eg. silver MMR, but are in a bronze tier, the game actually matches you based on your MMR which is silver. So you'll be playing against silver players to get out of bronze. Why not play against other bronze players to actually be able to show you don't belong there? Why should i be able to continuously beat silver teams to prove i dont belong in bronze? Where is the logic in that?
> [{quoted}](name=IkOerman,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iib8rR0y,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-27T16:02:57.227+0000) > > What is even worse, is that when you have eg. silver MMR, but are in a bronze tier, the game actually matches you based on your MMR which is silver. So you'll be playing against silver players to get out of bronze. Why not play against other bronze players to actually be able to show you don't belong there? > > Why should i be able to continuously beat silver teams to prove i dont belong in bronze? Where is the logic in that? I'm gold 2 on my main account. When I was gold 4 earlier in the season I would have multiple plat 4s or 5s in my games and sometimes silver 1 or 2 players. Afterwards I would check MMRs and check to see if anyone is duo. They were not. Using OP.GG I would check the plat players MMR and they would be like gold 1 MMR or normal. I would check the silver players MMR who has a sub 50% win ratio and their MMR would be normal so why are we all thrown into the same game together? Also why is it far that a silver 1 player has to beat plat 5s to get to gold 5? Even if the silver 1 player has a crazy MMR because of a high win rate. How is that still fair? In order to get out of silver 1 you should have to "prove" that you care better than other silver 1's or gold 5's not prove you are better than some plat 5s to get to gold 5.....
: 100% agreed. Concerning MMR/Elo, the main flaw is that your MMR and therefore your visible rank does not truly reflect your skill especially in low/mid elo. It's just all about matchmaking. Nobody will ever be able to prove it, but if matchamking really was rigged, even the worse. And yes, this makes me as a player really toxic inside. I keep it to myself, but it gets harder every day.
> [{quoted}](name=Ayanami3rd,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iib8rR0y,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-27T14:30:31.221+0000) > > 100% agreed. > > Concerning MMR/Elo, the main flaw is that your MMR and therefore your visible rank does not truly reflect your skill especially in low/mid elo. It's just all about matchmaking. Nobody will ever be able to prove it, but if matchamking really was rigged, even the worse. > > And yes, this makes me as a player really toxic inside. I keep it to myself, but it gets harder every day. I feel like the system is 100% designed to work against you. Many people have always said it feels like in their promos they always get bad players. Well based on Riots system you are more likely to get bad players in your promos because when you get in your promos you have obviously been winning and are possibly even on a 3-5 game win streak. So once you hit promos it matches you with people on losing streaks because for whatever reason the system tries to keep you at a 50% win rate.
: Basically you are perfect and everyone is out to get you. Toxicity is less common than you think, especially among newer players.
> [{quoted}](name=JarI BaIgruuf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iib8rR0y,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-27T16:22:25.157+0000) > > Basically you are perfect and everyone is out to get you. Toxicity is less common than you think, especially among newer players. Try leveling a new account. The new players quickly become toxic themselves because of the onslaught they have to endure or they just quit.
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