Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 20
Hey meddler, why are you looking to Nerf Lissandra for pro play? Any context? The issue isn't Lissandra as much as it is Aftershock giving her way to much. Aftershock has been an issue with other champions as well, the rune is over tuned. If anything, just change Aftershock to be a lot less effective for ranged champions. Don't touch Liss.
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Saezio (EUNE)
: All of this doesn't change the fact that Riven alongside Irelia, is at the moment the strongest champion for toplane, provided that you can play her at her full potential. No only that, she is an S+/Challenger/God tier pick in Diamond and Platinum as well. And only falls to S-/Diamond/Strong in Gold Elo. So, again. If someone is looking for a toplaner to onetrick to get as high as possible, I suggest they pick up riven/irelia. Are you saying Lolalytics is full of shit? If not why are you referencing them in your post? You mention Yoric, he is listed as a B tier/Average champion for Masters+ elo. Direct buffs don't need to happen for a champion to surface at the top of the foodchain. Last year it was Camille, now it's riven, it's not something to be embarrassed of if you play a champion that is strong.
You're not willing to accept that the reason for some champions emerging is because of numerous other champions being nerfed. Urgot got nerfed hard Aatrox got nerfed hard Akali got nerfed hard Irelia got nerfed Vs. Riven (took away the shield busting thing from Irelias Q) Cass got nerfed Liss got nerfed All of these champions kept Riven in check, and they also kept a lot of other champions in check. Nerfing them has un chained champions that were once stompers. New conqueror will be a hit to Rivens damage whether you like it or not, she doesn't have any innate armor pen in her kit like other champions do. She will lose out on 10% true damage, if any tanks come back, her win rate will go down a little bit, if Gnar comes back into the meta, her win rate will go down a little bit, if Liss comes back to top lane because she didn't get any actual heavy nerfs, Rivens win rate will go down a little bit. Riven by herself IS NOT an over powered champion, she appears overpowered when everything else is weak, just like how Syndra does when everything in mid lane is weak, same thing with Lucian in the bot lane. Give time for a strong meta to form after whats just happened to the meta pool (2-3 months) and Riven will be back in check without having to even touch her ratios or base stats.
: Oh so you presume to judge my game knowledge. Lol. OP.gg doesn't only report Korean stats.
Yeah, I will presume it, because if you had an ounce of game knowledge over 3 seasons of playing this game, you woudn't be stuck at gold 5 with an extremely low win rate. Also yes, OP.GG is only for Korean stats, hover your mouse over the ? mark in the top right hand corner of the screen at the top of the page when you're looking at the stats. It will say something like " there isnt enough data sets for other regions "
: well said ! daruis and jax and urgot can be a pain if played incorrect
: I'm not going to comment on whether Riven is OP or not, but one thing you should know is that facts do not matter to this board.
I know, the majoriy of people on here aren't high enough MMR to understand anything, and they get triggered when confronted with things they can't argue toward.
Saezio (EUNE)
: Lolalytics says so [Champion tier list in Masters+ Worldwide](https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/master/plus/tierlist/) She is second, ok, Irelia is first. But if riven is played at 100% of her potential (and masters+ stats is the closest stats we can get for this) she is better than any other toplaner except irelia.
At high MMR like that, meta picks are more important than if you were at Platinum MMR. The issue is that most if not all of the absurdly over powered meta picks have been nerfed, which indirectly buff riven. The essence reaver/Spear thing also gave Riven a bump because she can utilize it quite well on an experienced Riven player, and since all the meta picks are gone, and you can ban a couple champions here and there, there aren't really that many champions that can deal with her. HOWEVER, this doesn't mean the champion is broken, and I'll give an example. Look at Yoricks play rate all of a sudden, shooting up, along side his win rate. Did the champion get any heavy buffs? No, the meta pool got nerfed, and they fixed his ultimate to actually have an ultimate. Yorick isn't actually overpowered, there just isn't anyone that can out stat check him, including Riven because top lane as a whole is weak when comparing top lane champions to top lane champions.
: Oh i see so you resort to insults. Laughably predictable, like a Riven flash hopping away from a fair fight. I do admit you have a knack for cherry picking stats to misrepresent reality.
No, it's not an insult, apparently you can't see facts. I stated in the original post facts about Rivens win rate and Patch history changes. You told me there were no facts in that I told you another fact about your stats You refused to see that as fact and label it an insult. I think you're just looking for things to argue about because you're bad.
Saezio (EUNE)
: So, riven just happens to be the best toplaner to play at Masters+ elo while not being stronger than she should?
Who says Riven is the best top laner at Masters+? She is easily abusable at that MMR. Rivens high skill ceiling allows for insane amounts of outplay potential. Win rate/stats in high MMR do not equal an argument for how balanced a champion is. It's more so based on the meta, and why she's allowed to do the things she does with new items. Take for example Adrian Riven, he is known for Riven and can hit Challenger every season regardless of the meta with Riven, does it mean Rivens broken? Not really, if he one tricked Camille or Fiora, he would get to Challenger just as easily because of his game knowledge.
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: A list of things Riot could do right now that would make the game better.
Role ranking is fine, just poorly executed showing someones MMR wont matter RNG drags are fine, just need all there values to be nerfed a bit Turret plating is fine, gold just needs to be reduced New baron is fine with changes that just happened Rift herald is fine Jungle is fine except for a few outlier champions Honor system just needs tuning to hit checkpoints easier runes/masteries are fine, just needs a lot more tinkering Scuttle is debatable Plants I agree You can see other players runes/masteries on opgg or any third party site what kda like back in the day old ip system for what why get rid of loot system, it gives free stuff compared to not getting anything before
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: Conqueror Entitlement
Tanks are fine, just most of them are out of meta because they aren't favored. They will be in an even better spot come the changes to conqueror.
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: You can pay for XP boosts.
Yeah, but you still have to play endless twisted tree line games that end at 7 minutes to get to 30. still takes a few days, and I don't want to do that. And when I say few days, I mean, like 8-10 hours of grinding on each day
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: I mean... he went into pretty great detail as to why they physically can't make huge changes right now...
"regional translation restrictions" I played World Of Warcraft for 4 years Starcrafft for a couple months Warcraft 3 for a couple years Diablo 3 for a few years I have never ever heard that excuse for not being able to balance fix something
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: November 30
Hey meddler, what are your thoughts on the recent wave of people wanting Fervor back? Fervor was a lot healthier for the game than conqueror is. Any plans on looking into this?
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: Dark Harvest feels weak. I know a good way to buff it (no BS)
: Is anyone else noticing dark harvest is really strong right now?
hope they hot fix it and won't have to wait 2 weeks
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: I dont think they WANT to shale things up. The meta at the moment is better balanced then it has been since season 4. Shaking things up would ruin the balance a little too much. Sure, some people could maybe use some nerfs but as you said, its a soft patch.
The meta is fine? Really? You enjoy the fact that mid/top/jungle are completely dominated by 4 picks? (Irelia/Akali/Camille/Leblanc)
: Pyke nerfs? Bro are u high? Im sure riot gonna buff him cuz for them he is not cancerous enought
Nah, he needs another scaling damage portion to his ultimate every 10 armor is 2 more points of damage on ultimate NEEDS MORE BANG BRO
Rester (NA)
: It's preseason, they're waiting until after this patch to really start tuning champions.
You mean, waiting for the time slot where they can say, "we're waiting to gather more data until mid season to make any big changes"?
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: We're all excited for the game changes next season
You realize you're speaking logic, that's not a language Riot is fluent in
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