Rioter Comments
Dragons (NA)
: Your name probably makes people int.
> [{quoted}](name=Dragons,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q8k0M4ug,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-14T18:30:20.588+0000) > > Your name probably makes people int. it actually has I've had at least 10 people in the last year just lose on purpose from the start because their belief is that i'm not going to gank and help. That's how cancerous the players of this game are.
Antenora (EUW)
: https://i.gyazo.com/4ece677d655d3ecc9d7562d4f6c15c4c.png I lost this game btw. But you know... Bot lane decides games... Me and Pyke dominated lane but you know...
> [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q8k0M4ug,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-14T13:57:18.357+0000) > > https://i.gyazo.com/4ece677d655d3ecc9d7562d4f6c15c4c.png > > I lost this game btw. > > But you know... Bot lane decides games... > > > Me and Pyke dominated lane but you know... definitely did not dominate, you have 17 deaths combined, trading gold to the enemy team to get gold for yourself is not dominating. Dominating is 10/0/5
Rebsii (NA)
: 54 Lethality is not 54% extra damage. It removes 54 armor from the target during the damage calculation. Assuming you do not make it so they have negative resistances during the damage calculation, the damage formula is 100/(100+armor). However, lethality will not make it so the target can have negative armor, only armor reduction items can according to the wiki. Using the wiki, we can also assume most champions will be between 75-110 armor without any bonus armor at level 18. Knowing this info we can do some math. Base Stats: 100/175=57.14% damage taken 100/210=47.61% damage taken Tabi: 100/195=51.28% damage taken 100/230=43.47% damage taken Tabi+Seeker's Armguard(Fully Stacked): 100/240=41.66% damage taken 100/275=36.36% damage taken Calculating in the 54 lethality: 100/121=82.64% damage taken 100/156=64.10% damage taken Tabi: 100/141=70.92% damage taken 100/176=56.81% damage taken Tabi+Seeker's Armguard(Fully Stacked): 100/186=53.76% damage taken 100/221=45.24% damage taken Differencing the two columns: 82.64-57.14=25.50% difference in damage 64.10-47.61=16.49% difference in damage 70.92-51.28=19.64% difference in damage 56.81-43.47=13.34% difference in damage 53.76-41.66=12.10% difference in damage 45.24-36.36=8.88% difference in damage So 54% is not even close to realistic here. Furthermore, you poorly recognize the value of the stats from the ADC build. Infinity Edge alone makes it so you can crit for 225% of your base damage. Assuming the ADC is level 18, they will have between 95-137 base AD. Since crits make you do 225% damage, you have the potential to gain between (80+95)*2.25-95=298.75 AD and (80+137)*2.25-137=351.25 AD from items. So there is a 75% you gain 298.75-351.25 AD from items and a 25% chance you only gain 80 AD. If I am not completely messing up the math, we can average this by doing (3*Crit damage + 80)/4. This gives an average damage increase of 244.0625-283.4375 AD. On top of all that extra damage, ADCs also getting a whopping 65% attack speed. So let's compare, lethality can give 165 AD and remove 25.50% damage reduction in a best case scenario. Additionally, asssassin items give 20% CDR and 250 Hp. On the other hand, ADC builds can 244.0625-283.4375 AD on average along with 65% attack speed. Even assuming you get exactly 165*1.255= 207.075 AD from lethality, the AD from an ADC build is far greater for 300 gold more. And we'll just call the other stats close enough. Edit: Calculating gold efficiency. Using the wiki, we find values for gold efficiency of AD, Lethality, and AS. Assassin build: 165 AD = 35x165 = 5775 54 Lethality = 22.5x54 = 1215 20% CDR = 26.6x20 = 532 250HP = 2.6x250 = 650 Total Value = 8172 8800 cost Gold Efficiency = 92.86% ADC Build: 244.0625 - 283.4375 AD = 35x244.0625 OR 35x283.4375 = 8542.1875 OR 9920.3125 65% Attack Speed = 25x65 = 1625 Total Value = 10167.1875 OR 11545.3125 9100 cost Gold Efficiency = 111.60% OR 126.87%
was that before or after the adc explodes while trying to teamfight and the enemy zed instantly kills two people.
: Assassin items vs Adc items.
any item thats not an ad based item is always going to be cheaper, mages get cheaper items and so do assasins, they are superior champions anyway, they deserve superior items. The game isn't balanced around what players want or what is fair, it's balanced around lcs play. The pro's all play mages and tanks like it's a fucking crack addiction. Why? Probably because they are superior.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
MikiMiki14 (EUNE)
: Ban system
The only way to play this game is with good mental, otherwise its impossible, its by far the absolute most toxic gaming community in existence. You can only play this game if you never type in the chat. Otherwise you risk being banned. If you never type, and don't break other rules like scripting/cheating or multiple games of inting, then its not possible to get banned. Because probably 98% of bans are for chat offenses. So if you never chat, you never get chat offenses. That's pretty much the simplest way to view it. Riot is a trash company and none of the reports submitted are reviewed by humans, so when the system gets a report and you have offensive words or phrases in it, even if its towards someone who is being worse than you, you will just get punished for it as well. It's quite said but riots had a terrible player punishment system for a long time since they stopped the tribunal thing. If you choose to play the game again, don't ever speak, if you do you risk your account banned again.
: I just hate that if I get stuck in a game with a toxic person I have to bite my lip and sit in a fucked game for 30 minutes cause no one surrenders even though the game we're in clearly is a toxic cluster fuck. Retaliating gets you punished. Leaving the game gets you punished. Losing is a punishment. There are more punishments than there are ways out of a toxic game. Also people are fucking soft. Even the pros are trying to bring back trash talking.
yeah this is one of the things they never address, your literally held hostage, i have two pc screens so i just turn on youtube and watch videos until those kinds of games end and run around and hit a minion here and there to not get afk kicked.
: Team is allowed to blatantly int and feed but don't you dare type anything to them or punished.
yeah the state of the game has gone rapidly downhill since the start of season 6, its not even close to being worth it to spend money on anymore, and even the new skins are just big tits waifu skins or mostly trash nobody even cares about or will never see. Like the coven skinline, i've probably seen one of them once since release in my games lol.. Even the pajama shit, i've literally never seen any of them. You can't type in game, its an automatic chat restriction if someone reports you.
: because you can keep looking up the person and see that they play games every day. also, if your report is acted upon you get a message the next time you log in after the action was taken.
you only get a instant feedback popup if your report is the one that triggered the system to punish the player. Someone else's report could have easily been the one that did so. And its usually very hard for the system to tell if someone is trolling like that. What you are referring to is "Soft Int'ing" its just doing random things to get the game overwith and not trying to win. Because there are no riot employees that review reports like in the old tribunal days, intentional feeding reports usually go nowhere. Maybe the system will do something if someone has a 10 games in a row of being 0/15 but thats quite different from just fucking around to get a game overwith and ruin peoples fun. Next time try and open up a screen recorder and then submit evidence of the trolling in a ticket report.
Candoodle (EUW)
: Mastery barrier before you can pick champs in ranked
sounds like something that would be amazing but they'd never do it, they rely heavily on new champions being released and the idiots buying it immediately and jumping into ranked to supposedly have an advantage because new champs are busted. Riot will never do anything that costs them a cent.
: Looking for low plat high gold top or mid to duo and climb
: Tired of the "its just a game" excuse.
nah, its norms, its literally for practicing and trolling. anyone that takes normals seriously is an idiot and is wasting time. You only take the game seriously in ranked and even then almost 90% of the people I play with never take ranked seriously and feed anyway. So nobody really takes this game serious anymore. Probably has to do with how pissed off the player base is with how shitty of a game this has become. You could literally hold the balance team at gunpoint and threaten them to do a proper job and they still would fail and end up dying lol... Guess that'd be worth it though because then new people would be hired in place of the absolute garbage we have now.
: Well you can start by not AFK farming as soon as you think the game is over, even though it isn't. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/At1hpaYA-is-this-seriously-allowed
> [{quoted}](name=PrisonNightmare,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6ZQQh3sA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-14T08:31:26.990+0000) > > Well you can start by not AFK farming as soon as you think the game is over, even though it isn't. > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/At1hpaYA-is-this-seriously-allowed No, when im 2/1/2 and bot lane is 3/11/5, I'm afk farming to get it over with as quickly as possible, because they are fucking trash and dont deserve to win, nor will they win anyway despite how hard I try.
øHaruø (NA)
: You don't. Literally losing 90% of my games. Invited my friend for duo, he feeds constantly but I said hey f---k it, his last few games looked aite. He fed so hard in one game, and was basically afk in the next. I log on a day or so later this bastard is higher than me.
> [{quoted}](name=øKriskeø,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6ZQQh3sA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-14T06:41:20.085+0000) > > You don't. > > Literally losing 90% of my games. > > Invited my friend for duo, he feeds constantly but I said hey f---k it, his last few games looked aite. He fed so hard in one game, and was basically afk in the next. I log on a day or so later this bastard is higher than me. yeah same, its been a huge struggle, every game multiple lanes are feeding and crying that im a trash jungle. Literally they'll have 5 deaths bot lane before i pick up level 4... I can jg, start my camps, pick up a few levels, gank mid and top for a kill each, and we will still lose because bot lane died 7 times in 10 minutes. Its actually sad.
: Is this seriously allowed???
of course its okay, i do this all the time with people that I dont think are capable of winning, if i know its going to be a loss I just afk farm until they lose 4v5. When your placed with trash, your placed with trash, most games are decided in the lobby by the mmr system, the team with the better players almost always wins.
: Wtf? Support items? Just wow.
of course its sad, they literally cant make one single decision to positively affect the game, every decision for the last 3 years has "not been in the best interest of players". There is a reason the games dying and they have less players in 2019 than they did in 2015.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
Ephixus (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Not HeIping You,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TEmKw6bZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-13T10:02:58.168+0000) > > not sure if its the same guy but i had an alistar in november that built ga and stood in bot lane behind the turret avoiding doing anything and watched us lose. The account had a bunch of match history fileld with it as well, it's really mindblowing that the system doesn't see that an account has been spam reported for inting multiple games in a row and flag it and ban it immediately. Or at least send it to one of the player support people to review and manually ban it or something. B...bu...but this amazing automatic system works as intended, people claim.
> [{quoted}](name=Ephixus,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TEmKw6bZ,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-02-13T11:43:52.010+0000) > > B...bu...but this amazing automatic system works as intended, people claim. B...bu...but America is not in 20 trillion dollars of debt! {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: Teamwork and toxicity
Yeah the way i figure it only about 2 in every 100 people actually care about being kind to others. No matter what a vast majority of the players in the community are excessively toxic and abusive to others. A lot of it does have to do with how shitty of a state the game has ended up in and how poorly riot has been managing it, but thats still really just an excuse. Sometimes people are right to be toxic though I believe, if your bot lane dies 5 times in the first 5 minutes, sorry, a good ole "ayyyyy fuck off!" is deserved in my opinion. Because it wastes my time, and takes down my LP, and i dont deserve to lose my time and LP for others failures. But that is my opinion. I do wish people would stop hard raging just because something happens that they don't like though. A good way to look at it is that a lot of people that are super abusive in game, suffer in their real lives themselves and really are typically just letting out misdirected anger from the situations they are having to deal with in life. Almost any time someone rages at you and tells you to kill yourself, its because they themselves have been dealing with stress and problems that lead to the anger that was unleashed upon you.
: i think the problem that this entire community has is they want to win. they don't care about anything except winning. and winning is a matter of perspective. to some it is destroying the nexus. to others it is forcing the enemy to surrender. and others think it is getting most kills. players will do anything (and i do mean anything) to win a game. if they are not winning they blame their team for doing terrible and will report them for whatever excuse i can find. from what i understand, in a perfect game of league everyone is doing what they should which is following the meta and going by the book. if someone is not doing that then they will flame at them and go ape shit crazy. it dont matter what game mode it in either. people expect you to do as they say or else they report you and get pissy at you. unlike most players in game and on boards, i don't care about winning or losing. league is just a game. it is not the end of the world if we lose a game and there is nothing at the top of the ranked totem pole to make the climb worth it. i have seen every type of player and after playing almost a year the only thing that pisses me off is an enemy purposefully going out of their way to kill me and no one else (don't matter if they are jungle or not) and players crying and surrendering cause being an asshole to their team is not working. all i want from my team is to show respect and kindness. but they don't care. they will continue to flame me and be an asshole to me cause they expect it to work. but really it will do nothing except give me less of a reason to listen to them.
> [{quoted}](name=Inkling Commando,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=noo5OEvB,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-13T09:24:56.921+0000) > > i think the problem that this entire community has is they want to win. they don't care about anything except winning. and winning is a matter of perspective. to some it is destroying the nexus. to others it is forcing the enemy to surrender. and others think it is getting most kills. players will do anything (and i do mean anything) to win a game. if they are not winning they blame their team for doing terrible and will report them for whatever excuse i can find. from what i understand, in a perfect game of league everyone is doing what they should which is following the meta and going by the book. if someone is not doing that then they will flame at them and go ape shit crazy. it dont matter what game mode it in either. people expect you to do as they say or else they report you and get pissy at you. unlike most players in game and on boards, i don't care about winning or losing. league is just a game. it is not the end of the world if we lose a game and there is nothing at the top of the ranked totem pole to make the climb worth it. i have seen every type of player and after playing almost a year the only thing that pisses me off is an enemy purposefully going out of their way to kill me and no one else (don't matter if they are jungle or not) and players crying and surrendering cause being an asshole to their team is not working. all i want from my team is to show respect and kindness. but they don't care. they will continue to flame me and be an asshole to me cause they expect it to work. but really it will do nothing except give me less of a reason to listen to them. i dont expect people to do as i say but i do expect them to at least do what is right, this isn't a game where "exploring all options" is always a good thing, sorry, if the adc teemo is 0/9 and flaming people and my mid and top are flaming him for picking teemo adc and feeding, well, maybe he should have just picked a standard meta adc and played like he cared about the game, rather than just going teemo adc and building ap to try and 1 shot people with the Q like a troll in a lane where having no mobility means you'll get popped no matter what. There are things people do that are yes, things they want to do, but that does not mean its the right thing to do. Diversity and trolling in the game is a season 1-4 thing. Now the game is so widespread and known and certain metas and methods of playing are so well developed, that it actually really is trolling to not abide by them, because when you pick something that is knowingly bad, you are willingly picking something that is not as efficient as what the meta is, which means its like picking the nerd in dodgeball that you know will do nothing for your team. The biggest problem right now is just how snowbally riot has allowed the game to get, a few mistakes early on typically almost always lead to a loss, and kids make so many mistakes these days. And when you lose very early on due to people making said mistakes, it becomes very frustrating because you feel like you never had an opportunity to even play the single game you were in. I personally don't consider mistakes trolling, because of course i make them myself from time to time, but I do consider making mistakes. and then purposely engaging the enemy afterwards to then die again trolling. Or dying, and then continuing to die afterwards regardless of the circumstance. If the top laner dies once to a 1v1 early, then okay whatever he got outplayed it is what it is. Alright now a few minutes later he got caught as he was warding and all in'd and died to a gank from j4, ok no biggie we can still carry him. Now over the next 5 minutes he tries to 1v1 the fed enemy fiora twice and dies to her both times. Then says in all chat "gg fuck this jg he is trash, just end" Sorry, he is an asshole, braindead, and absolutely fucking inting and trolling. In any game where someone has 1 death a minute in the early game "i'm looking at you bot lane" that is also trolling. Maybe the deaths werent intentional, maybe the enemy players are just that much better, who knows, the mmr system decides which team gets better players, but in any scenario, if its 6 minutes in and you have 5 deaths and lost the first turret, the game is over, and you have int'd and trolled.
Yenn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Not HeIping You,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TEmKw6bZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-13T10:02:58.168+0000) > > not sure if its the same guy but i had an alistar in november that built ga and stood in bot lane behind the turret avoiding doing anything and watched us lose. The account had a bunch of match history fileld with it as well, it's really mindblowing that the system doesn't see that an account has been spam reported for inting multiple games in a row and flag it and ban it immediately. Or at least send it to one of the player support people to review and manually ban it or something. No, he rushes all movement speed items (Boots of Mobility, Deadman's Plate, Ohmwrecker, etc.) and it's something that looks like a viable build, but he plays hyper aggressively and goes all in on any champion that gets near him 24/7, while spamming chat with all caps, making it clear that he's not taking the game seriously. He manages to win some games, because top and middle don't expect to be ganked by an Alistar 24/7, and sometimes someone snowballs out of control, but as the game progresses, it turns into actual intentional feeding and he starts complaining about 'being bored' and spamming surrender if it goes past 25 minutes. He has 12-20 deaths in every single game. In my last game, he wasn't happy because we were playing too passively, so he began repeatedly running directly down mid lane for whatever champion was defending the outter turret, often chasing them to the inhibitor before dying. Basically, it's something that's not obviously inting, even though he has double digit deaths in every game. But Riot clearly has identified this behavior as inting, as he has multiple banned accounts.
> [{quoted}](name=Yenn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TEmKw6bZ,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-02-13T10:21:25.862+0000) > > No, he rushes all movement speed items (Boots of Mobility, Deadman's Plate, Ohmwrecker, etc.) and it's something that looks like a viable build, but he plays hyper aggressively and goes all in on any champion that gets near him 24/7, while spamming chat with all caps, making it clear that he's not taking the game seriously. > > He manages to win some games, because top and middle don't expect to be ganked by an Alistar 24/7, and sometimes someone snowballs out of control, but as the game progresses, it turns into actual intentional feeding and he starts complaining about 'being bored' and spamming surrender if it goes past 25 minutes. He has 12-20 deaths in every single game. > > In my last game, he wasn't happy because we were playing too passively, so he began repeatedly running directly down mid lane for whatever champion was defending the outter turret, often chasing them to the inhibitor before dying. > > Basically, it's something that's not obviously inting, even though he has double digit deaths in every game. But Riot clearly has identified this behavior as inting, as he has multiple banned accounts. sounds like a man baby that was raised by excessively rich parents.
Yenn (NA)
: Soft inting and alternate accounts seriously need to be addressed
not sure if its the same guy but i had an alistar in november that built ga and stood in bot lane behind the turret avoiding doing anything and watched us lose. The account had a bunch of match history fileld with it as well, it's really mindblowing that the system doesn't see that an account has been spam reported for inting multiple games in a row and flag it and ban it immediately. Or at least send it to one of the player support people to review and manually ban it or something.
Rioter Comments
: Tell me that promos aren't rigged ?
Lol its definitely rigged, Right no i can't even win games, every single game before i even get level 3, there is a minimum of 5-6 deaths on my team, its usually 1-2 mid and 3-5 bot lane. I get flamed for being a trash jungle and then we lose because i can't do anything vs enemies that one shot me if i even get close to them. Last season I hit my promos to gold 1 and in two of the 3 games, I had a kogmaw, which was the first time even seeing a kog in my games since the start of the season, and in both the games the kogmaw was 0/15. And then after that I lost 30 in a row from people that were literally seen suiciding in the enemy base in multiple games in a row. The system is dogshit.
Rioter Comments
: Looking for low plat high gold top or mid to duo and climb
: i guess junglers have to wait till season 10 to get any good changes?
maybe not, they will probably revert the changes or buff them again right before worlds so junglers are useful in worlds games.
Rester (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Not HeIping You,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BzHNjeMa,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-09T09:02:21.097+0000) > > No it used to do more, there was a nerf to lower the % of damage that it did on the 3rd proc. Either you edited some in or I'm tired as fuck and missed that. Yes I know they messed with her % W damage for a while. A lot of people proposed interesting ideas including treating it like Wuju style where she can only do % true damage for a few secs and the rest is just bonus physical. Cant say I really ran into many issues with Vayne but everyone has different mileage.
> [{quoted}](name=Rester,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BzHNjeMa,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-09T09:37:32.436+0000) > > Either you edited some in or I'm tired as fuck and missed that. Yes I know they messed with her % W damage for a while. A lot of people proposed interesting ideas including treating it like Wuju style where she can only do % true damage for a few secs and the rest is just bonus physical. > > Cant say I really ran into many issues with Vayne but everyone has different mileage. yeah other than back in season 4/5 when she was disgusting she hasn't been to big of a problem but 0.5s cooldown, 1 second, shaco Q's is absolutely ridiculous in any game she's in. She's either completely stomped, or gets to lategame and just slams the enemy team into the ground. Maybe a team full of bursty mages would cuck her action but vs a team with like two tanks and a semi tank she is just broken...
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Farticus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=IRAViURN,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-09T02:42:59.295+0000) > > You deleted the insults you posted in your first comment roflmao and have insulted me every every comment since anyway lol. Good luck in life manlett. I will continue to respond to accusers however I want with a mans size to back it up. The problem is that you just need to calm down, i get what your getting at, i get people in my games all the time where i wish i just had a fucking bat and their address and could go there and fucking pound their hands into an unusable state. But this game is probably the absolute most toxic game in the entirety of the gaming industry. So you are in an environment where almost everyone around you is generally a total piece of shit. If you want to stop getting banned, stop talking to people in game, your only wasting your own time in the end anyway. /mute all keeps you having an account forever....
Rester (NA)
: What? Her W still does % HP true damage. lol I don't recall them ever removing it from the time I played and that was since Season 3.
> [{quoted}](name=Rester,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BzHNjeMa,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-09T08:55:59.681+0000) > > What? Her W still does % HP true damage. lol > > I don't recall them ever removing it from the time I played and that was since Season 3. No it used to do more, there was a nerf to lower the % of damage that it did on the 3rd proc.
: if you were to see the entirety of the conversation back and forth those arent one sided relentless flame as you would think they are. most of them are reactions to about 10 minutes of trolling/insults towards me. but you cant get banned for intentionally feeding/following people around and taking cs, or MMR boosting their significant others out of a lower elo putting team at a distinct disadvantage. these "Non-Stop insults" i can probably count on a single hand how many insults I actually wrote here. are by no means grounds for a permanent ban of an account that has been active for over 5 years. and came back from a ban, and got to honor level 3 and had two bad games in the matter of 1 month. thats my argument. these same insults are used by streamers every day in their chats and nothing happens to them because they get 5 honors a game, and never get reported. the system is based on "fairness" but in reality a computerized program cannot be fair towards every player or weed out the actual toxic ones for the game, because I will take any day of the year someone flaming me rather then running it down mid, taking cs from me, and generally throwing the game without typing, I'm sure everyone else who plays this game competitively will agree with me, other then maybe you.
> [{quoted}](name=Chaos Anagram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Xs13EjxW,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-02-09T03:12:20.397+0000) > > if you were to see the entirety of the conversation back and forth those arent one sided relentless flame as you would think they are. most of them are reactions to about 10 minutes of trolling/insults towards me. but you cant get banned for intentionally feeding/following people around and taking cs, or MMR boosting their significant others out of a lower elo putting team at a distinct disadvantage. > > these "Non-Stop insults" i can probably count on a single hand how many insults I actually wrote here. are by no means grounds for a permanent ban of an account that has been active for over 5 years. and came back from a ban, and got to honor level 3 and had two bad games in the matter of 1 month. > > thats my argument. > > these same insults are used by streamers every day in their chats and nothing happens to them because they get 5 honors a game, and never get reported. the system is based on "fairness" but in reality a computerized program cannot be fair towards every player or weed out the actual toxic ones for the game, because I will take any day of the year someone flaming me rather then running it down mid, taking cs from me, and generally throwing the game without typing, I'm sure everyone else who plays this game competitively will agree with me, other then maybe you. It's not about whether or not your toxicity was one sided flame or in response to other people abusing you, 4 people on your team could all be saying absolutely horrible shit to you, but if you respond and flame back with your own form of bad language to them, then you are held as equally liable and abusive as them. Yes I know, that is STUPIDDDDDDDDDDDDD, as fuck... But unfortunately it is just how riots rules are. If you are arguing, or flaming in response to someone, you will be punished just as other people will be punished for flaming someone. And what conspired in the game doesn't matter, its not that you deserved anything. You went through the various punishment tiers and were sitting at the point that the next punishment, regardless of whatever it was for, would trigger the system to permanently ban your account. It's like having a coffee card where you buy 10 coffees to get a free one, your punishment was the 10th purchase and now you got the free coffee. None of this should be too hard to understand.
: If it is taking you 100ish games to unlock your honor, that is a clue that your behavior is still falling below the standards set for the game. After honor is unlocked, it should take less than three months to regain honor 2. If it's taking longer, that's again a clue that your behavior is below standard. As for how to regain honor, I've got a summary already written out. > [{quoted}](name=Silent Gravity,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=B0RzOAVm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-10T03:01:32.509+0000) > > > > The primary way to get honor is by playing games without being validly reported. > > This means that avoiding everything that can be flagged as negative is a good idea. No "pointing out" anyone's KDA or CS. Don't say that you're going to report or mute anyone. When you decide that someone is trolling/griefing, stop interacting with them. Don't blame people for the state of the game. > ------------------ > > The second most important way to gain honor is by using chat positively. This can start with simple things like "gl hf" at the beginning and "gg" at the end. More advanced techniques include using chat to help your team win the game. Make plans for the future. "We should get a ward on baron" "Take dragon while they're distracted" "Build XX next for some MR" "focus LeBlanc first next fight" "Hold your ult until after they use their dashes" > > While you are doing this, make sure that you're talking about the future. The future can be changed, but the past cannot. "Why didn't you ward baron?" "You should have taken dragon while I had them distracted" "Why did you build XX?" "stop focusing the tank" "stop wasting your ult" Those, while essentially the same message as the prior ones, are flagged as negative because the past can't be changed. > > ------------------------------------ > > The third most important way to gain honor is the team bonus for everyone honoring someone. This means that it's best for you to honor someone every game. This also helps you to enjoy the game itself more. It focuses our thinking on what went right, and who we enjoyed playing beside the most, instead of focusing on the troll, flamer, or uncooperative person. > > ---------------------------- > > The smallest part of gaining honor comes from the individual honors. Focusing on those is a good way to make yourself frustrated. Your post sounds like you're focusing on the received honors, and are frustrated, as expected of that strategy.
No i actually /mute all at the start of every game, and have done so since december so a report for further toxicity isn't possible, I play udyr though so im probably reported for whatever in 4/5 games because udyr is a very common target for "i'm losing because of you" behavior.
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: 5 CHAT RESTRICTION 1 GAME FOR DEFENDING MYSELF, WHILE RACIST PLAYERS NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol if u think the system was that bad just wait until you try to get back to honor level 2, its probably locked atm so you gain no progress towards it whatsoever until it becomes unlocked(100ish games) and then after its unlocked you need to play and get honored frequently for about 8-9 months(600+ games) to get back to honor level 2, lul, enjoy losing your season rewards at the start of the season bud, I'm in the same boat....
: Looking for low plat high gold top or mid to duo and climb
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Barcid (NA)
: Spear of Shojin is a testament to the utterly idiotic balancing in this game
if riot games properly balanced league of legends, i'd win the powerball lotto, if riotgames didn't sellout 100% of their assets to chinese communists, i'd win the powerball lotto. Shit happens as it does, can't prevent the cancer from spreading.
Wosdor (EUW)
: Honoring Enemy Players
they said something about bringing back the ability to honor opponents in the future and that it needed more client updates and features to be implemented or something, so eventually it would probably be added.
: Thank you Riot!
You only get permanently banned from cheating or having an extensive history of abuse of the rules though, so in almost every case a permanent ban is warranted from riot when they choose to apply one to someones account, they really are hard to get believe it or not...
: Pregame lobby reporting
Pre game and post game chat is logged into riots servers after the game and a report takes all evidence of it, I was chat restricted once and in the evidence it showed me being a dick in both the pre game and post game chats to people. So they do include it.
: Gold jg looking for mid or top to duo till plat
Shahamut (NA)
: My only real problem with the shut down system is that I can have a 1k gold bounty on my head even when my team is 3k gold behind as a team. At least adjust my bounty to reflect that I am the ONLY one doing well on my team atm...
> [{quoted}](name=Shahamut,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jAEjo7o6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-01T03:32:34.218+0000) > > My only real problem with the shut down system is that I can have a 1k gold bounty on my head even when my team is 3k gold behind as a team. > > At least adjust my bounty to reflect that I am the ONLY one doing well on my team atm... yes i agree, this would probably be one of the only problems with it right now, a losing team only loses harder if the enemy team gets shutdown gold off the one person thats even trying to win.
baka19 (NA)
: That's impossible. If you have bad adcs and the enemies have good adcs, eventually you will get a good adc... my point is that the new shutdown system can turn around games too quickly
> [{quoted}](name=baka19,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jAEjo7o6,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-01T03:59:17.984+0000) > > That's impossible. If you have bad adcs and the enemies have good adcs, eventually you will get a good adc... my point is that the new shutdown system can turn around games too quickly no it is possible, its like that saying thing where people say that if something is 1/300 then you will land on the prize once in 300 times, thats not how rng works. You can spin the wheel 900 times and not hit it once, i'm one of those LoL players that has such abhorrently bad luck that 80% of the time i have 1-2 people on my team that are either trying to lose because thats what they are doing on purpose, or trying to lose because of bad skill and ignorance. I am actually the guy, where if 1,000 people reviewed every game i played in season 8 they'd see I was trolling in 5% of them, trying really hard in 85% of them, and got outskilled in 10% of them by better opponents, and that almost every loss is because one or more people were trolling in that specific game. The classic LoL rule applies, it takes 5 people to win a game and one person to lose it. I happen to be the person that gets that one person losing it as often as possible. And it makes sense to, for all the lucky people out there in the world, there are people out there that have the exact opposite in bad luck. My own life even confirms this theory because if you saw how unlucky i've been in life you'd probably sit there and laugh and tell me to kill myself because it's not even worth living with such bad luck. I've been in 10 car accidents and have a paralyzed right leg...
Yenn (NA)
: Watching Rengar 100 to 0 my ADC in 0.2 seconds, before my abilities even reach him, feels amazing
even if they nerf rengar for 30% of his overall damage output, i'd still lose because my braindead cancer bot lane would still die 15 times to him and everyone else on the enemy team, so i'll lose anyway regardless of nerfs or buffs.
baka19 (NA)
: My Problem With the New Shutdown System
in my case the shutdown gold never matters, i never get the shutdown gold. while i'm jungling and me and top are doing well together, mid and bot lane have lost us the game and have a combined 20 deaths making it impossible to even kill a single enemy, because me and top lane were building damage most of the early game because of how well we were doing, so now when it comes to a team fight, the enemy one shots our worthless trash cancerous bot lane and mid and then we just get one shot as well because the entire enemy team is so huge. This has been the case for every loss i've had since season 6, excluding losses where someone forcibly loses on purpose like int suiciding or leaving, of which there were plenty of those too. The shutdown gold only makes it even worse, because the fed enemies kill me or top lane and we are worth shutdown gold and so the fed enemies become even stronger and unstoppable and snowball for a free win and by 20 minutes our base is gone. I have an adc do well bot lane in 1 of 20 games.
: Riot's Discipline System: The Illusion of Quality
Skins are only made for champions where it's highly likely they will make the most money, thats why most have huge tits, most are waifu skins and most are for broken or overplayed champions.
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