: Pyke can technically be built as a tank :D
> [{quoted}](name=JustifiedkNot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7XMjJpIl,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-19T11:16:24.897+0000) > > Pyke can technically be built as a tank :D With an execute ultimate.
: They have a finite amount of time in stealth which is literally the exact polar opposite of what you just said lul
> [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7XMjJpIl,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-19T11:15:21.365+0000) > > They have a finite amount of time in stealth which is literally the exact polar opposite of what you just said lul You're only telling me that you haven't read the post based on what you said. How about not look at the title, see pictures then assume shit.
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mzicio (EUW)
: Lissandra is an abomination of a champion meant to counterplay a whole fucking class with no effort. Sorry, but she needs to stay in the trash bin.
> [{quoted}](name=mzicio,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK6Gs5ZG,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-08-19T10:11:41.458+0000) > > Lissandra is an abomination of a champion meant to counterplay a whole fucking class with no effort. Sorry, but she needs to stay in the trash bin. Like Assassins take any effort?
Rioter Comments
: > Perma-Stealth per·ma·nent ˈpərmənənt/ adjective 1. lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely.
> [{quoted}](name=WhoIsThisDude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7XMjJpIl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-19T03:19:55.703+0000) > > per·ma·nent > ˈpərmənənt/ > adjective > 1. > lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely. Indefinitely, undefined. Not infinite.
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Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=NotAPurpleFrog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK6Gs5ZG,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-08-19T00:44:17.626+0000) > > So she doesn't need a buff, yet I literally never see her in any games and she has a low winrate? What exactly is her winrate and pick rate if I can ask?
> [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK6Gs5ZG,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-08-19T00:53:49.609+0000) > > What exactly is her winrate and pick rate if I can ask? https://champion.gg/champion/Lissandra/Middle?
: > [{quoted}](name=NotAPurpleFrog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK6Gs5ZG,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-19T00:43:51.311+0000) > > I don't think her Damage needs a buff, it's her E's animation and her W's size. Oh, my mistake. We'll same point still applies I'd say we'd need to lower overall damage and see how champions would respond to having a bit more breathing room but changes like that probably wouldn't hurt.
> [{quoted}](name=King Braum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK6Gs5ZG,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-08-19T00:49:31.756+0000) > > Oh, my mistake. We'll same point still applies I'd say we'd need to lower overall damage and see how champions would respond to having a bit more breathing room but changes like that probably wouldn't hurt. I agree that if we Nerf ALL Damage in the game by like 20%, the games would last longer and not be decided within the first "First Blood/Tower"
: Buffing her Q is always a bad idea - it leads to Lissandra top lane becoming ridiculously oppressive How would you make her W a skill shot? It's strength lies in the fact that it's a 360 degree, instant aoe cc. It's essentially used the same way Riven's stun is used, to draw out her combos and lock opponents in place for an easy Q in trading. It also lasts long enough for her to normally escape a situation Her E will get a faster initial animation when she gets her rework and a slight damage buff I believe to encourage her to use it more aggressively in trades If she could cast her ult on allies then she could use her ultimate three different ways - two of them defensive and that would be incredibly overloaded, even for an ultimate ability
> [{quoted}](name=Hovering Hentai,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK6Gs5ZG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-18T23:22:52.905+0000) > > Buffing her Q is always a bad idea - it leads to Lissandra top lane becoming ridiculously oppressive I guess > How would you make her W a skill shot? It's strength lies in the fact that it's a 360 degree, instant aoe cc. It's essentially used the same way Riven's stun is used, to draw out her combos and lock opponents in place for an easy Q in trading. It also lasts long enough for her to normally escape a situation Ya, but it's only useful when you're in Melee range, and you have 20 Armor and 30 MR as Lissandra in the early game. > Her E will get a faster initial animation when she gets her rework and a slight damage buff I believe to encourage her to use it more aggressively in trades I hope it does. > If she could cast her ult on allies then she could use her ultimate three different ways - two of them defensive and that would be incredibly overloaded, even for an ultimate ability True
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: No, because that would lead her into being overbuffed considering she was buffed not so long ago. Don't let Lissandra meet the same way Graves and Kindred did - do you really want the boards scream for Lissandra to get gutted? Give her some time, see how she wil be if other mages or mid laners get adjusted.
> [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK6Gs5ZG,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-18T23:58:07.566+0000) > > No, because that would lead her into being overbuffed considering she was buffed not so long ago. Don't let Lissandra meet the same way Graves and Kindred did - do you really want the boards scream for Lissandra to get gutted? > Give her some time, see how she wil be if other mages or mid laners get adjusted. So she doesn't need a buff, yet I literally never see her in any games and she has a low winrate?
: okay so this might be an unpopular opinion but.. in this rampant damage meta, how about instead of buffing lissandra, we nerf the overal damage, runes, items, champions, It'll probably take a while but probably be worth the wait, and then see how she preforms.
> [{quoted}](name=King Braum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK6Gs5ZG,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-19T00:20:50.927+0000) > > okay so this might be an unpopular opinion but.. in this rampant damage meta, how about instead of buffing lissandra, we nerf the overal damage, runes, items, champions, It'll probably take a while but probably be worth the wait, and then see how she preforms. I don't think her Damage needs a buff, it's her E's animation and her W's size.
: Before buffing lissandra, get one for anivia too
> [{quoted}](name=Autumn Grace,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WK6Gs5ZG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-18T22:31:32.406+0000) > > Before buffing lissandra, get one for anivia too Anivia is still played in the LCS, she has had a rework and some buffs I believe, Anivia is pretty good so she's played in the LCS, I don't even see Lissandra in Draft Pick - Let alone Ranked.
Rioter Comments
: Its actually pretty funny, because he was playing Riven. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/6PmNwHy4-sorry-riven-i-thought-this-was-a-videogame-not-q-spam-simulator
> [{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Gtskk9dv,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-17T22:13:43.600+0000) > > Its actually pretty funny, because he was playing Riven. > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/6PmNwHy4-sorry-riven-i-thought-this-was-a-videogame-not-q-spam-simulator So original, very helpful to this po- wait it has no value to the post at all, moving on.
: I checked your match history... and, yup! you LITERALLY just got your ass beat by a nasus. LAST GAME. Do you honestly think anyone's gonna listen to you?
> [{quoted}](name=Raymønd Åmantius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Gtskk9dv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-17T22:08:25.067+0000) > > I checked your match history... and, yup! > you LITERALLY just got your ass beat by a nasus. > LAST GAME. > Do you honestly think anyone's gonna listen to you? Ironic.
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: All you did is list what each champion does? I mean like, I can do that too and make anyone sound OP. Braum: (Aka. you won't kill his carry, but you'll die trying) His passive is "fuck you, you're going to be stunned at the worst possible time, unless you run away, if you even can" His Q is big poke, big slow, and applies his passive His W is a dash that gives him and an ally free defenses His E blocks ALL PROJECTILES, while giving him damage reduction so you can't even get good damage on braum himself His R is a giant area knockup+slow Like, every single champion in the game will sound cancerous as fuck if all you do is highlight what their abilities do. Maybe league just isn't for you.
> [{quoted}](name=Leaf of the lake,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cMIw8E8A,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-13T17:47:52.256+0000) > > All you did is list what each champion does? I mean like, I can do that too and make anyone sound OP. > > Braum: > (Aka. you won't kill his carry, but you'll die trying) > His passive is "fuck you, you're going to be stunned at the worst possible time, unless you run away, if you even can" > His Q is big poke, big slow, and applies his passive > His W is a dash that gives him and an ally free defenses > His E blocks ALL PROJECTILES, while giving him damage reduction so you can't even get good damage on braum himself > His R is a giant area knockup+slow > > Like, every single champion in the game will sound cancerous as fuck if all you do is highlight what their abilities do. Maybe league just isn't for you. It's a joke thread my dude.
Nenthos (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cocho,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cMIw8E8A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-13T02:12:05.107+0000) > > we can say whatever we want, but he has designed some of the most played champs in lol Sure is popular , as they are one of the only played champs. Not really much to compare to since only a certain amount are viable this season. If a champ doesn't have dashes and shields it's considered "outdated". His design philosophy directed the game away from simplistic fun designs to toxic kits overloaded with complexity and "outplayness" that break the game only for the sake of it being flashy and cool. Say what YOU want but he's definitely one of the reasons why the game is in the current state that it is, unfun.
> [{quoted}](name=Nenthos,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cMIw8E8A,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-13T02:23:51.238+0000) > > Sure is popular , as they are one of the only played champs. Not really much to compare to since only a certain amount are viable this season. If a champ doesn't have dashes and shields it's considered "outdated". His design philosophy directed the game away from simplistic fun designs to toxic kits overloaded with complexity and "outplayness" that break the game only for the sake of it being flashy and cool. Say what YOU want but he's definitely one of the reasons why the game is in the current state that it is, unfun. I 100% agree
: Yikes
This made me laugh
higura (EUW)
: how i feel everytime a new patch comes out
: Why is Void Staff the best item on Vel'Koz?
: Soraka splitpushing
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: dude you don't even know what skill his Q and E are and you're crying about him being op? really shows what kind of people cry for nerfs
> [{quoted}](name=çaçaçaçaçaçaçaça,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EQ8rs363,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-08-12T21:49:05.465+0000) > > dude you don't even know what skill his Q and E are and you're crying about him being op? really shows what kind of people cry for nerfs Idgaf what order his abilities are in, that doesnt change the fucking facts stated above.
: because you lost 1 ~ 2 games in game you dont need to say nerf him. You dont even know how to counter Wukong.
> [{quoted}](name=SweetRainTv,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EQ8rs363,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-08-12T21:47:07.874+0000) > > because you lost 1 ~ 2 games in game you dont need to say nerf him. You dont even know how to counter Wukong. Kid thinks this is my only account.
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: Did you know? Random game fact #1
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: Here is a list of various things that other champions can do that Tryndamere can not do: - Inflict damage at range - Disable people (inflict CC's that prevent opponents from taking actions) - Deal magic damage - Turn invisible - Blink - Buff his defenses (through shields, armor, or MR buffs) - Move faster (he has a dash, but not a speed buff) To say that Tryndamere takes no effort to play, is to ignore all of the deficiencies that Tryndamere players must take into account, relative to other champions.
> [{quoted}](name=JedenVojak,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-08-09T22:20:43.819+0000) > > Here is a list of various things that other champions can do that Tryndamere can not do: > > - Inflict damage at range > - Disable people (inflict CC's that prevent opponents from taking actions) > - Deal magic damage > - Turn invisible > - Blink > - Buff his defenses (through shields, armor, or MR buffs) > - Move faster (he has a dash, but not a speed buff) > > To say that Tryndamere takes no effort to play, is to ignore all of the deficiencies that Tryndamere players must take into account, relative to other champions. - He has a dash - He has a slow - He deals Magic Damage with AP Tryndamere - He has invincibility, who needs invisibility if you cannot be killed - He has a dash - He is immune to death - He has a dash with a lowered CD on crit.
: For an assassin her damage is spread out for a pretty long period of time. Her w shouldn’t negate true site I’ll agree there. Otherwise she’s pretty balanced. If anything her q could use 50 more range.
> [{quoted}](name=The Space Cowboy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Qld3Lrcd,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-10T19:21:53.169+0000) > > For an assassin her damage is spread out for a pretty long period of time. Her w shouldn’t negate true site I’ll agree there. Otherwise she’s pretty balanced. If anything her q could use 50 more range. If they move her heal to E a 50 range increase wouldn't be that bad, They're nerfing Electrocute by 2x luckily.
Kythers (NA)
: I don't get how she works now she goes invisible and a few seconds later jumps out of nowhere and deletes me before i can react
> [{quoted}](name=Kythers,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Qld3Lrcd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-10T19:02:46.099+0000) > > I don't get how she works now > > she goes invisible and a few seconds later jumps out of nowhere and deletes me before i can react CertainlyT's work. Aka the guy who made Zoe, Zed, Zyra and Yasuo
: The Reworked Akali Has an Overtuned Kit.
I love it when people don't bother reading the post then downvote, really giving the community a great name Akali Mains.
: > [{quoted}](name=NotAPurpleFrog,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2018-08-10T02:09:25.360+0000) > > It's mobility, that's like saying Kindred's Q is a skillshot. It's mobility that is also his main source of damage.
> [{quoted}](name=Need Gold 4 Tent,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-10T04:43:47.118+0000) > > It's mobility that is also his main source of damage. If it cannot be blocked by Yasuo's Windwall I don't count it a skillshot.
Rioter Comments
: I mean. *Technically* you could say his E is a skillshot, since it's a damage spell that can miss.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-09T20:00:47.491+0000) > > I mean. > > *Technically* you could say his E is a skillshot, since it's a damage spell that can miss. It's a dash that deals damage.
Steve ˉ (EUNE)
: level 20 NA player who just lost against a champ that you can easily counter, making it to the top of the league boards, congratulations
> [{quoted}](name=Steve ˉ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2018-08-10T11:36:48.336+0000) > > level 20 NA player who just lost against a champ that you can easily counter, making it to the top of the league boards, congratulations Lv 60 player thinks this is my only account. boo hoo go to bed kid. You should know that 50% of low level accounts in NA are smurfs because of Riot's bullshit ass banning system.
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-09T20:00:47.491+0000) > > I mean. > > *Technically* you could say his E is a skillshot, since it's a damage spell that can miss. And it is used as one right now, since AP trynd is meta over AD trynd.
> [{quoted}](name=Need Gold 4 Tent,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-08-10T01:53:12.131+0000) > > And it is used as one right now, since AP trynd is meta over AD trynd. It's mobility, that's like saying Kindred's Q is a skillshot.
: > [{quoted}](name=Child of the Pit,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-08-09T21:14:09.006+0000) > > I find it ok to ult trough CC, since he is so easy to CC, however silence and surpression in my oppinion should cancel it Why? Why are those CC's so special that they should cancel his ult, as opposed to other forms of CC?
> [{quoted}](name=JedenVojak,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-08-09T22:06:22.357+0000) > > Why? Why are those CC's so special that they should cancel his ult, as opposed to other forms of CC? Being stunned irl means you can't do shit, especially BECOME A BRICK WALL.
: You can dodge his w so it's a skill shot
> [{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-08-09T20:35:56.097+0000) > > You can dodge his w so it's a skill shot Lmfao no it isn't, you still take the AD reduction if you're near him when he casts it.
: is zoe allowed to recast her q while in zhonyas?
*Riot makes a mechanic for a reason* CertainlyT: Wtf is this? Stupid mechanics make the game unfun (yet balanced) CertainlyT: Make Akali not be able to be targeted by ANYTHING EVER when in shroud, even TRUE SIGHT Riot: I like it CertainlyT: Also lets make Zoe break all Game Mechanics for shits n giggles Riot: You're hired. Riot: Balance team, you better balance this Riot Balance Team: CertainlyT payed us to have this added sooooo Riot: Alright put it in the update.
: by comparisom kayle is the same shit just without the crit. barring ulting through cc ofcourse. she has only point - click abilities.
> [{quoted}](name=Snapp2Kill,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-09T19:45:36.417+0000) > > by comparisom kayle is the same shit just without the crit. > > barring ulting through cc ofcourse. > > she has only point - click abilities. She cannot ult through CC, it blocks ALL damage, she doesn't deal damage during low health, her Q W cost a lot of mana, her R is a way longer CD and her E is her bread and butter, besides she's getting reworked soon.
: by comparisom kayle is the same shit just without the crit. barring ulting through cc ofcourse. she has only point - click abilities.
> [{quoted}](name=Snapp2Kill,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-09T19:45:36.417+0000) > > by comparisom kayle is the same shit just without the crit. > > barring ulting through cc ofcourse. > > she has only point - click abilities. She cannot ult through CC, it blocks ALL damage, she doesn't deal damage during low health, her Q W cost a lot of mana, her R is a way longer CD and her E is her bread and butter, besides she's getting reworked soon.
SEKAI (OCE)
: My only issue is how Trynd can R through ALL CC. Like, why tho? I mean, shouldn't proper focusing and stunning Trynd and whatnot before he even get a chance to press R be rewarded? But then he presses R and so it was K, more than K actually because he's running after you slashing down left and right like a discount store dunking prices while being immune to death itself for the duration.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9fEvhmBs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-09T19:43:00.177+0000) > > My only issue is how Trynd can R through ALL CC. Like, why tho? > > I mean, shouldn't proper focusing and stunning Trynd and whatnot before he even get a chance to press R be rewarded? But then he presses R and so it was K, more than K actually because he's running after you slashing down left and right like a discount store dunking prices while being immune to death itself for the duration. He doesn't even have a repercussion for taking all the damage with his R, it's just free. Like if he had a reduced healing passive for his R that'd be great so he couldn't just Q Q Q in 3s to get 100% of his health back.
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Audhulma (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=NotAPurpleFrog,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Unq83ETp,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-08-09T18:39:31.412+0000) > > You're telling me a tanky Poppy building Bruiser items, beating a bruiser at their own job is ok? I'm telling you that jax played incredibly poorly, so it's honestly no wonder poppy got fed and did a ton of free damage. Also she's supposed to build bruiser items and do damage, that's what bruisers do. Jax playing badly resulted in him being so weak that he was an easy target for the enemy team, so it's no surprise they took similar damage but he got outdone on damage output. What exactly do you think happens when somebody gets fed? They aren't going to do anything with it, or do low damage? Do you expect that somebody who feeds their ass off is going to still do comparable damage themselves?
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Unq83ETp,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-09T19:01:30.548+0000) > > I'm telling you that jax played incredibly poorly, so it's honestly no wonder poppy got fed and did a ton of free damage. Also she's supposed to build bruiser items and do damage, that's what bruisers do. Jax playing badly resulted in him being so weak that he was an easy target for the enemy team, so it's no surprise they took similar damage but he got outdone on damage output. > > What exactly do you think happens when somebody gets fed? They aren't going to do anything with it, or do low damage? Do you expect that somebody who feeds their ass off is going to still do comparable damage themselves? She's a fucking tank. Doing 300 damage with her SHIELD PASSIVE.
Audhulma (NA)
: I don't disagree much with the title, but why are you posting a match where somebody played jax like a boosted monkey against a poppy top as if it's evidence?
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Unq83ETp,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-09T17:50:32.765+0000) > > I don't disagree much with the title, but why are you posting a match where somebody played jax like a boosted monkey against a poppy top as if it's evidence? You're telling me a tanky Poppy building Bruiser items, beating a bruiser at their own job is ok?
: > [{quoted}](name=saltran,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nduA20tJ,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-08-05T21:38:17.457+0000) > > Just skillshots dont make a champ hard to play. Yeah... Remember when people were saying Zoe was one of the hardest champs in the game to play on her release bc "hurr durr her damage is all on her Q"
> [{quoted}](name=SangreDeNoche,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nduA20tJ,comment-id=000200010001,timestamp=2018-08-06T20:44:15.344+0000) > > Yeah... Remember when people were saying Zoe was one of the hardest champs in the game to play on her release bc "hurr durr her damage is all on her Q" Which is AOE, same for her E
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