: New Zilean Skins :(
The year isn't even over, chill
: Unpopular Opinion: Senna really shouldn't be released as a champion
What if she's back, but she's like star guardian Xayah and rakan back
: Does anyone else have issues with LP?
The only thing you have to do to climb, is win more often than you lose. Not unreasonable at all.
Fyrijou (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Metal Janna,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Kq2aGJYG,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-14T17:04:39.596+0000) > > Play some bot lane. See if you think an early surrender vote should pass when you're winning your lane and mildly fed but top {{champion:122}}/{{champion:58}} is 0/3 and mid {{champion:105}}/{{champion:238}} is 0/0 at 15 minutes, so they decide to FF because they aren't personally going to carry the match. > > Meanwhile you've got a tank jungler who's been AFK farming ever since his unsuccessful gank top and could actually help a fed botlane wipe the enemies one lane at a time while the others stall, but it's probably not going to happen because the three of them have weak mental and gave up 5 minutes ago (10 minutes for top). > > Those people suffer from Main Character Syndrome. "I'm the main character, so if i'm not going to carry then the game is lost!" > Fuck MCS sufferers. You do know „chat“ exists in game, right? You can tell them: „hey guys, top enemy might be fed, but jungler can gank top, because we here in bot are also fed and can catch up in lategame“. Let‘s say this one moment happens where top get‘s too tilted and early surrenders, than he‘s either alone or at the very most get‘s 1 other person who presses „yes“. If Bot and Jungler is fed or managed to keep it stable, it would always end up with 1 voting „yes“ and the other 4 voting „no“. So the people with „MCS“ will always end up with the lesser votes. But if the game is obviously lost, no one has fun and just want the match to end, than MCS can be the factor here. Those with „MCS“ will drag the game on, just to satisfy themselves with nonsense, but ends up only feeding the enemy. Others also press „no“, just to be a sore loser to waste everyone‘s time and to drag the game on, because he blames everyone else for the bad game. So your perspective of „MCS“ makes no sense.
> [{quoted}](name=Fyrijou,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Kq2aGJYG,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-10-14T19:49:55.129+0000) > > You do know „chat“ exists in game, right? You can tell them: „hey guys, top enemy might be fed, but jungler can gank top, because we here in bot are also fed and can catch up in lategame“. Let‘s say this one moment happens where top get‘s too tilted and early surrenders, than he‘s either alone or at the very most get‘s 1 other person who presses „yes“. If Bot and Jungler is fed or managed to keep it stable, it would always end up with 1 voting „yes“ and the other 4 voting „no“. So the people with „MCS“ will always end up with the lesser votes. But if the game is obviously lost, no one has fun and just want the match to end, than MCS can be the factor here. Those with „MCS“ will drag the game on, just to satisfy themselves with nonsense, but ends up only feeding the enemy. Others also press „no“, just to be a sore loser to waste everyone‘s time and to drag the game on, because he blames everyone else for the bad game. > > So your perspective of „MCS“ makes no sense. It's actually almost never worth talking to people with those attitudes.
: So does only Reddit get to design a champion?
It just says they're designing a concept, no guarantee that it actually makes it to the game, hopefully
: Wow funny joke. You had me laughing. Anyways, ill apply your idea to infernal. Getting to lane faster. With infernal ill get there later but when i get there ill zone you from cs because im stronger. Setting up ganks, with my added dmg a counter gank will allow me to 2v2 or in some cases 1v2 with the extra dmg and zoning my laner with my raw power before the gank to build my lead. Positioning and kiting or picking targets id give to cloud but then again can you pick a target who is stronger than you? You get to lane and objectives faster but infernal drake and mountain lets you make up for that time by taking objectives faster than you would with cloud. So positioning or set up is really the only benefit cloud has over infernal and setting up is objective since the team with infernal will probably have more control considering they're the aggressors and the cloud drake users would be the ones trying to avoid a clash with the infernal drake users.
> [{quoted}](name=Chainman3,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=egLcPFh8,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-14T11:42:32.568+0000) > > Wow funny joke. You had me laughing. Anyways, ill apply your idea to infernal. Getting to lane faster. With infernal ill get there later but when i get there ill zone you from cs because im stronger. Setting up ganks, with my added dmg a counter gank will allow me to 2v2 or in some cases 1v2 with the extra dmg and zoning my laner with my raw power before the gank to build my lead. Positioning and kiting or picking targets id give to cloud but then again can you pick a target who is stronger than you? You get to lane and objectives faster but infernal drake and mountain lets you make up for that time by taking objectives faster than you would with cloud. So positioning or set up is really the only benefit cloud has over infernal and setting up is objective since the team with infernal will probably have more control considering they're the aggressors and the cloud drake users would be the ones trying to avoid a clash with the infernal drake users. Umm, Cloud Dragon was the highest winrate dragon at one point last I checked, and it's only been buffed since then. Just having an infernal doesn't guarantee you win fights or can zone someone anyway. As an assassin main, my favorite dragon is cloud. I usually have enough damage already to kill my targets, but having the extra movespeed makes getting picks SO MUCH easier. On the flipside, playing against cloud drake feels awful, because you can miss out on a lot of opportunities because of it, the game becomes much harder. Also, having everyone on the team rotate everywhere faster is insanely good for macro play.
Thilmer (EUW)
: Weakest and strongest ultimate in your opinion?
Yeah, Morde's ult is underwhelming and has a ridiculous cost to boot. I feel like the only reason he's so weak compared to the other two is because of the whole phantom thing.
: Do newer players have a point sometimes?
The game definitely should not be balanced around lack of game knowledge. The information of how to deal with pubstomp champions is out there if they just look for it and attempt to apply it.
Kanzler (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nut on my Butt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oFQAdAqM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-10T17:55:51.046+0000) > > Would be disappointing for her to also be an ADC, tbh. Why? Lucians second gun is her gun.
> [{quoted}](name=Kanzler,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oFQAdAqM,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-10-10T17:59:09.340+0000) > > Why? Lucians second gun is her gun. Wouldn't be able to play them on the same team often, and thus, shared interactions go to waste. Wielding a gun doesn't restrict a champion to being an ADC bot lane.
: Miss fortune animation is outdated
Would love MF to get an Ezreal tier update that gives her a new passive.
: What if the new adc is senna?
Would be disappointing for her to also be an ADC, tbh.
: Jungle High Sustain Champs
{{champion:28}}{{item:1039}}
Pyrosan (NA)
: Dominos vs Pizza hut vs Papa johns
I don't mind little Ceasar's because I always get thin crust anyway. I used to always prefer dominoes, but then earlier this year, this guy who works at a nearby pizza hut gave me free pizza because he has a crush on me, and it was actually really, really good. I think it's like a specific location thing though, because my local dominoes doesn't seem to make the pizza as good as they used to, and my coworker said whenever she tries to get pizza hut near her house it's never as good.
: My 100% Crit Shaco Build
Is it crucial enough to take alacrity over bloodline?
: A win should be +1 LP.
This isn't DBD, you can't be scored for your individual contributions. Also, if you're losing more LP than you gain, then you have to correct your MMR.
: DeathDance self damage should not be blocked by shields.
They'll ending bugging the game somehow and making all true damage go through shields coding that in. Who knows, they might even push it as an intended change to shake up s10
Sukishoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nut on my Butt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qcFOMGBT,comment-id=000500000001,timestamp=2019-10-05T16:34:18.346+0000) > > Weren't they giving traditional skins for free to people who owned the champions anyway? Yes, but only when they owned the champion before the rework was released. If you bought the champion after the rework then you still had to buy the skin for 975.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qcFOMGBT,comment-id=0005000000010000,timestamp=2019-10-05T17:07:09.869+0000) > > Yes, but only when they owned the champion before the rework was released. If you bought the champion after the rework then you still had to buy the skin for 975. Well, I feel like that's a big part of why they didn't sell well then. Would be neat if they went by usage instead, though I admittedly don't see those skins often, having those with old voiceovers like Karma's would be neat.
Sukishoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qcFOMGBT,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-10-03T19:29:18.447+0000) > > Pff, hah. Those champs are dead and we are not getting them back. Too many stupid players would cry about them. > > Not to mention that Riot is too lazy to even give us traditional skins, so... They aren't lazy. Their stats showed them that the traditional skins sold poorly, so they don't want to waste resources on them. Plus making the rework is supposed to move away from the old champion, so those skins defeated the purpose in the end.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qcFOMGBT,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-10-04T17:53:16.714+0000) > > They aren't lazy. Their stats showed them that the traditional skins sold poorly, so they don't want to waste resources on them. Plus making the rework is supposed to move away from the old champion, so those skins defeated the purpose in the end. Weren't they giving traditional skins for free to people who owned the champions anyway?
Quáx (NA)
: Skill simply doesnt matter in soloq anymore
If you're playing consistently at a higher level than your current ranking, you will climb. People do it all the time. You're not supposed to win every match.
Zac x Me (NA)
: why do they ban morgana she didn't even get a buff
> [{quoted}](name=Zac x Me,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tb6lGaZQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-04T15:09:35.843+0000) > > why do they ban morgana she didn't even get a buff Morgana has been getting banned for years. As long as her E exists in its state, she will be banned. Her Q ontop of that doesn't help either.
: Riot is busy suspending people for bad words because they want league to be **Safe Space**. I wish they crack down on AFKs and trolls half as harsh...
> [{quoted}](name=Hillary Chillton,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iENiXLso,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-02T05:02:19.488+0000) > > Riot is busy suspending people for bad words because they want league to be **Safe Space**. I wish they crack down on AFKs and trolls half as harsh... Well, afking a game unfortunately can't be instaban since it isn't always intentional, and even though it's clearly intentional here, stuff like that usually requires human moderation to determine, and with the amount of games played and false reports made daily, they can't really afford to have all the reports checked manually.
SirEnds (NA)
: Your Favorite Champion Themes?
Rockman (NA)
: Which champion do you think is the most like Uncle?
Shurik (EUW)
: can i test my ping before i start a game?!@$!@%!@%@!#$!@%?
Well, you could just go into a custom game or practice tool for a few seconds. Or, even easier, since you're on EUW, open cmd and type "ping 104.160.141.3" without the quotations, of course.
: My thoughts are that the current world/story team absolutely hates her, is deconstructing her and any other champs they don't like, and wants her to be a villain. Why else did morgana get the favorable lore in the rework while Kayle was turned insane? By taking away her eyes and the hints of her facial features as her mouth and nose are gone too, Kayle is looking less human now.
I think the reasoning was they suddenly wanted her face to be hidden like the old Kayle's always was. > [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fOET5jUO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-01T17:05:20.652+0000) > > My thoughts are that the current world/story team absolutely hates her, is deconstructing her and any other champs they don't like, and wants her to be a villain. > > Why else did morgana get the favorable lore in the rework while Kayle was turned insane? By taking away her eyes and the hints of her facial features as her mouth and nose are gone too, Kayle is looking less human now. What are you talking about? Morgana has always had the more favorable and tragic lore.
: Hey riot, I am toxic by disrepecting my self nonstop, and get chat restricted for this.
You were constantly being negative and passive aggressive. You are annoying. Someone lock this thread.
: There's actually a hidden id number on everybody's account. In the lobby, whoever has the higher number gets placed. This is why if you queue as 5 with the same people, everybody will get the exact pick order each game.
> [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8mT25JqX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-01T04:08:28.214+0000) > > There's actually a hidden id number on everybody's account. > > In the lobby, whoever has the higher number gets placed. This is why if you queue as 5 with the same people, everybody will get the exact pick order each game. Really? I feel like pick orders shuffle all the time after a dodge happens and you get the same team again
: > [{quoted}](name=Nut on my Butt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=limxofpO,comment-id=0004000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-28T16:04:40.657+0000) > > There's a guy who reaches master consistently while one tricking ad leblanc top lane. There is also a high diamond adc Ahri main > > That's completely irrelevant to viability, especially since onetricks skew the ladder a bit by being not at their skill level on other champs most the time. > > You can climb to a certain point playing anything. Just because someone can eat soup with a fork, doesn't mean a spoon isn't much better. I have a problem with this line of thinking because there are plenty of potentially broken things out there that are just not being done. There's a big bias in that if the pro scene isn't doing it it isn't viable. Sona Taric bot for example was a result of an experiment done by a couple high elo support mains in EUW and ended up being a ridiculous competitive breaking strategy. It's very unlikely that combo would have ever been nearly as popular otherwise.
> [{quoted}](name=Support Evelynn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=limxofpO,comment-id=00040001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-28T22:51:03.431+0000) > > I have a problem with this line of thinking because there are plenty of potentially broken things out there that are just not being done. There's a big bias in that if the pro scene isn't doing it it isn't viable. > > Sona Taric bot for example was a result of an experiment done by a couple high elo support mains in EUW and ended up being a ridiculous competitive breaking strategy. It's very unlikely that combo would have ever been nearly as popular otherwise. Yes, but it's not like AD Top Lane LeBlanc hasn't ever been in the spotlight before people eventually dropped it.
Zemasu (EUW)
: If not an MMO, i'm expecting a d&d resource or an rpg system
You're likely setting yourself up for disappointment with those expectations.
Barso55 (NA)
: Qiyana elements are way too situational, needs to be changed
She is very ass in base fights yes. My only real gripe with her gameplay. Lack of elements for passive refresh on top of lots of areas for enemies to stand safely from her ult. I don't think the latter is an issue on its own, however.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nut on my Butt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=limxofpO,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2019-09-28T01:56:47.211+0000) > > Some of those champions themselves just can't cut it in mid lane very well. > > Zyra as an example has low kill potential in mid lane, and she's a sitting duck to the melee assassins who can easily avoid her telegraphed cc and even oneshot her plants with autos if she combos. > > But she can't be meaningfully buffed for mid without being even more oppressive as a support, tragically but there's a mid zyra main out there who does just fine, so I can't say it's the champion. likewise you can find all those mages being one tricked by someone in each elo bracket in a role that isn't support. so I'm going with my original idea of the players not being good enough to play the champs in carry roles, and assassins don't excuse people running away from the lane lol, they aren't the strongest class anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=limxofpO,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2019-09-28T09:47:08.703+0000) > > but there's a mid zyra main out there who does just fine, so I can't say it's the champion. > likewise you can find all those mages being one tricked by someone in each elo bracket in a role that isn't support. > > so I'm going with my original idea of the players not being good enough to play the champs in carry roles, and assassins don't excuse people running away from the lane lol, they aren't the strongest class anyway. There's a guy who reaches master consistently while one tricking ad leblanc top lane. There is also a high diamond adc Ahri main That's completely irrelevant to viability, especially since onetricks skew the ladder a bit by being not at their skill level on other champs most the time. You can climb to a certain point playing anything. Just because someone can eat soup with a fork, doesn't mean a spoon isn't much better.
: lux and morg are classic supports, the rest I agree with though lol. I actually just think the mage players aren't good enough to play mid.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=limxofpO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-28T00:48:03.555+0000) > > lux and morg are classic supports, the rest I agree with though lol. > I actually just think the mage players aren't good enough to play mid. Some of those champions themselves just can't cut it in mid lane very well. Zyra as an example has low kill potential in mid lane, and she's a sitting duck to the melee assassins who can easily avoid her telegraphed cc and even oneshot her plants with autos if she combos. But she can't be meaningfully buffed for mid without being even more oppressive as a support, tragically
: Can my champion also have 17 spells too ?
Half of those are just passive damage sources like her passive and runes/items. And of course the same spell listed 3 times.
Scryble (NA)
: Guys. Come on.
Who is this for?
: Eve censored on NA now?
How many threads are people gonna make LMAO
Barso55 (NA)
: It would be nice if Riot offered refunds on heavily reworked champs and their skins
: "events" are meaningless.
Honestly, last time they released star guardian skins besides the most recent one was so memorable with the game mode and random people even trying to make efforts towards star guardian comps in draft games. This extended even beyond the initial patch they released in. This year? It was old news like 3 days after the patch released.
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: Noone play Talyah so noone would pay for new skin. Thats why Teemo, Lux and Ezreal have tons of skins compared to other oldies. Prepare for Ultimate Teemo Skin 😲
> [{quoted}](name=Jesi Oni,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=R3rg8cQP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-25T07:41:20.658+0000) > > Noone play Talyah so noone would pay for new skin. Thats why Teemo, Lux and Ezreal have tons of skins compared to other oldies. > > Prepare for Ultimate Teemo Skin 😲 Taliyah has had surges of popularity in the past.
: this is actually interesting
Uhh, sounds like in some cases they'll be trying to fix things that ain't broke.
: Evelynn splash art.
It's most likely just an oversight.
Mártir (EUW)
: Do you consider Zilean to be 'OP/Free Elo', or at least 'Solid/Strong'?
Solid champ especially against certain comps/champs like pick comps or assassins.
: What do you guys think of a change/revert to Katarina's W
Uhh, I think her W is fine, also, it actually already ghosts you during the movement speed.
: > [{quoted}](name=ShyImagoghnar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AcAgEylJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-13T20:04:05.707+0000) > > she's banned frequently because her black shield counters champions that a lot of people want to play. alistar, thresh, blitz, pyke Wrong. She was never banned before the rework. She's banned because she does a lot more damage and her ult is better. She's super reliable and her spells are very strong.
> [{quoted}](name=AllenPCarlson,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AcAgEylJ,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-09-14T00:16:01.188+0000) > > Wrong. She was never banned before the rework. > > She's banned because she does a lot more damage and her ult is better. She's super reliable and her spells are very strong. She was banned plenty before the 'rework'.
Ellphi (NA)
: Why does the chat disappear after people un-friend you? I can't SS toxic chats that quickly
Why do you add them? Anyway, the easiest way to do it is just press ctrl + ptrscr and paste the image somewhere it can be saved as a file. Or just download a photo sharing app that let's you screenshot parts of your screen when you press ptrscr.
Diävolo (EUW)
: Couples who dance in botlane instead of helping are growing
: Champion Shard Hoarding
I only hold onto a max of 2 shards for champions that I could see myself gaining mastery for in the future.
: I think Xayah DID need a nerf, but I feel this one hit a little hard...
It might just be because I'm bad with Xayah, but I also feel like it's so easy for people to just side step the ult, especially at melee. And if they're further away, I usually don't get enough feather hits for the snare with it anyway. So besides the zoning ofc, it feels like it usually doesn't matter where I throw the feathers and it's just a safety net, lol.
: does silver still exist
Did you know that there are less people in Iron than there are in Diamond? Being Iron is truly an achievement.
: What a waste of a amazing trailer.
A token grinding event is not substance lmao Also, the information that there wasn't going to be one for star guardian skins has been known for over a month now
Shwin (NA)
: > Why champions with sustain should not be able to get corrupting potion? They paid their gold for it, that could be used for other starting items that give actual stats, its ok Its mainly just seeing GP and Kayle take 3 additional heals that ruin any potential counterplay. Doesn't matter that they have abusive built-in sustain already, but getting Cpots on top of that is irritating. At least nerf the damage buff on it.
> [{quoted}](name=Shwin,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1pj8U0lW,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-12T09:25:10.591+0000) > > GP and Kayle | abusive built-in sustain LMAO
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