Meddler (NA)
: Sorry to disappoint, but no, that's not an intended change. We're looking into what's going on there now. As to why we don't think this is a good change that's because we don't want to constantly creep cast times/attack times quicker and quicker. We believe having some degree of telegraph/reaction time's important to give players time to react, allow proper visual/audio representation of gameplay and space out ability usage somewhat. Faster, snappier abilities will almost always feel better and, completely understandably, will always be requested. Feel's not the only consideration we think needs to be weighed here though, with pace of game (choice versus twitch reactions especially) also a really important value.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPrtxNX5,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2016-02-26T20:53:01.744+0000) > > Sorry to disappoint, but no, that's not an intended change. We're looking into what's going on there now. > > As to why we don't think this is a good change that's because we don't want to constantly creep cast times/attack times quicker and quicker. We believe having some degree of telegraph/reaction time's important to give players time to react, allow proper visual/audio representation of gameplay and space out ability usage somewhat. Faster, snappier abilities will almost always feel better and, completely understandably, will always be requested. Feel's not the only consideration we think needs to be weighed here though, with pace of game (choice versus twitch reactions especially) also a really important value. I can see instant casts being anti-fun because of other champions that have or would have instant casts would not have much counter-play if any, but khazix's Q has plenty of counter-play already and that would transfer to when he gets instant cast or close to instant cast Q. Other instant casts do not have isolation like chogath's ultimate. If cho's ult did have isolation there would be plenty of counter play because he can no longer flash insta kill you under tower or in a minion wave etc it all relies on your positioning and not reaction time. So stating that this would be poor because of reaction time makes no sense because it's more towards positioning. I'm not asking for it to be instant but close enough to instant where it feels rewarding to good kha players. Kha'zix's problem right now is that he does not feel rewarding to play and is clunky. Everything else is fine and from my experience (I can confidently say I know Kha the best and inside out) this is the exact change he needs to make him the rewarding fast paced squishy assassin that everyone wants. I've tested the changes plenty on PBE and I know from experience that this change would not put him over the top and would put him where no more complaints and or changes would be needed. I would love to discuss in some sort of instant chat system so everything can be discussed between me and Riot, I want to get all my points across in one discussion. Thanks so much for responding though would love a fast response and maybe talk more in a live chat system? Just to get everything clear.
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TiiGz (NA)
: Good news is that Steraks and Iceborn just got nerfed, so Kha is in a better spot this patch. Hope this trend continues
> [{quoted}](name=TiiGz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7GA5JHHx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-24T20:44:24.547+0000) > > Good news is that Steraks and Iceborn just got nerfed, so Kha is in a better spot this patch. Hope this trend continues Yeah but Iceborn didnt get nerfed in the correct spot sadly. Also Steraks is still good but it was a nerf in the right direction so yeah he is slowly getting better.
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: It's removed by QSS, yes. It shouldn't be removed by Cleanse. EDIT: Yes, I meant Cleanse :(
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Axes,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=pt97eEjE,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-02-02T22:57:54.147+0000) > > It's removed by QSS, yes. It shouldn't be removed by Clarity. Wish you would respond to my question : ^ ) , are you guys going to release anymore AD assassin items or at least buff kha directly?
: > [{quoted}](name=Nutty,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=pt97eEjE,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-02T21:42:17.781+0000) > > There are so many reasons why this item won't be built on him. 1. the stats aren't that amazing for Kha ghostblade is way better. 2. the active is useless on Kha because in his combo (w-e-tiamat-smite / q same time-land-auto) They will be dead. And if they aren't then when you auto you have to sit there waiting for 2 SECONDS to get the reset (which is crazy long if you want to get in and out) you'll be dead by then. Kha'zix only autos either at the start of his combo or the end and both situations this item is bad for it. beginning of combo it does no damage while at the end of combo it doesn't proc fast enough. 3. This item is way too expensive the only time Kha auto attacks frequently is early game and he isn't going to get warrior and this item that quickly it's too expensive. There's not one situation that this item will be built on Kha unless you're 10/0 and the game is already over. I've tested it on PBE also and with my knowledge on the champ it wasn't good at all. I tested it over and over again. Different builds different situations. Was garbage. Camouflage and see them die by the nightfall.
> [{quoted}](name=Draxtathoth,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=pt97eEjE,comment-id=000300000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-02-02T22:21:52.332+0000) > > Camouflage and see them die by the nightfall. Nice rank and kha stats silver is really high. Might wanna look me up im Nutty on NA. But thanks for giving me the Kha'zix info ill take that into account and try that next game i play ;)
BM Goyu (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nutty,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=pt97eEjE,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-02-02T21:34:59.182+0000) > > Kha wont build this item. Yes there are a lot of champs that will benefit from this item (Don't only think of ad assassins think of every champ) but kha isnt one of them I bought it on him on the PBE. It was really strong because of the nature of his combo. You walk up, QW auto (procs nightfall) E ifthey dash away and q again, Nightfall pops if they got away and they take a crap ton of damage from it because they lost a lot of HP before the proc was activated. Either that or they get bursted outright. Same thing for Rengar. I don't know why you would feel like 75 AD, 10 flat pen and a nice MS boost would be bad for Kha'Zix, but it felt pretty solid, and giving the void bug back some %hp damage is hardly a bad thing for his burst combo.
> [{quoted}](name=BM Goyu,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=pt97eEjE,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-02T21:39:10.105+0000) > > I bought it on him on the PBE. It was really strong because of the nature of his combo. You walk up, QW auto (procs nightfall) E ifthey dash away and q again, Nightfall pops if they got away and they take a crap ton of damage from it because they lost a lot of HP before the proc was activated. Either that or they get bursted outright. > > Same thing for Rengar. I don't know why you would feel like 75 AD and a nice MS boost would be bad for Kha'Zix, but it felt pretty solid, and giving the void bug back some %hp damage is hardly a bad thing. There are so many reasons why this item won't be built on him. 1. the stats aren't that amazing for Kha ghostblade is way better. 2. the active is useless on Kha because in his combo (w-e-tiamat-smite / q same time-land-auto) They will be dead. And if they aren't then when you auto you have to sit there waiting for 2 SECONDS to get the reset (which is crazy long if you want to get in and out) you'll be dead by then. Kha'zix only autos either at the start of his combo or the end and both situations this item is bad for it. beginning of combo it does no damage while at the end of combo it doesn't proc fast enough. 3. This item is way too expensive the only time Kha auto attacks frequently is early game and he isn't going to get warrior and this item that quickly it's too expensive. There's not one situation that this item will be built on Kha unless you're 10/0 and the game is already over. I've tested it on PBE also and with my knowledge on the champ it wasn't good at all. I tested it over and over again. Different builds different situations. Was garbage.
: Mage items service AP Assassins much better than AD items service AD Assassins, so we view it as much less of a problem. We also exacerbated the problem for AD Assassins in preseason where AP Assassins stayed pretty stable. In the long run, we'll probably want to do stuff.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Axes,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=pt97eEjE,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2016-02-02T21:35:37.968+0000) > > Mage items service AP Assassins much better than AD items service AD Assassins, so we view it as much less of a problem. We also exacerbated the problem for AD Assassins in preseason where AP Assassins stayed pretty stable. In the long run, we'll probably want to do stuff. So what are you guys going to do to help Kha'zix? Or are you going to change this item so it can be on spells too? With it being only auto attacks this item is beyond useless for him
BM Goyu (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GrReaper96,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=pt97eEjE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-02-02T21:28:53.979+0000) > > Honestly the only ones i see benefiting from this unless fat are {{champion:91}} {{champion:238}} Idk, Kha'Zix and Rengar are looking pretty strong in my mind.
> [{quoted}](name=BM Goyu,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=pt97eEjE,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-02-02T21:33:34.633+0000) > > Idk, Kha'Zix and Rengar are looking pretty strong in my mind. Kha wont build this item. Yes there are a lot of champs that will benefit from this item (Don't only think of ad assassins think of every champ) but kha isnt one of them
: Duskblade, AD Assassins, and You
So are you guys going to change this item or add another for Kha? This item wont be built on Kha at all and he needs something right now. Assassin build Kha'zix is insanely bad and unrewarding to play currently but tank Kha'zix is pretty good because of the items being so strong and broken. Steraks, maw, deadmans, and BC on him dont really fit his playstyle but the items are just so strong that it's better than assassin Kha currently. While assassin Kha has really no CORE items for him. Hope you guys make another new item or just buff Kha straight up. I admit that assassin Kha is only weak right now because of itemization.
: As a fellow kha player, gl getting anything across about kha on these boards. You're better off on reddit.
> [{quoted}](name=Vagina Jungling,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hZJr8Qdz,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2016-01-30T15:06:37.270+0000) > > As a fellow kha player, gl getting anything across about kha on these boards. > > You're better off on reddit. I tried reddit and got front page but no one from riot listened. Not even on the boards and tweeting at them will they listen. Kind of upsetting. Idk RIP kha'zix after they overbuff him or leave him in the dumpster like this
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Lyte (NA)
: The 2016 Ranked Season: Updates on Dynamic Ranked and your feedback
First off i wanted to thank you guys for listening and I love what you guys did.., Dynamic que is going to br really nice and new solo que is going to be AMAZING. im so pumped for the new solo que. Also question, what ranked rewards will solo que get because as long as it's border and the skin would be awesome. I feel like it wouldnt be right to lower the current solo que rewards...
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Lyte (NA)
: Let’s talk about dynamic queues and ranked play
Just my opinion but what steers me away from ranked right now and what caused me to take a break from the game is picking 2 roles. I'm not guaranteed Jungle and It shouldnt feel like I'm scared to play ranked because what if I dont get jungle? It might be just me but I would rather wait an hour in que and play jungle instead of playing another role.
: I know Live Gameplay is exploring some Kha'Zix buffs. Not sure on the exact status of those, but we agree that he's in a bad spot.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Axes,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=GhWdm3R6,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2015-12-19T01:50:21.343+0000) > > I know Live Gameplay is exploring some Kha'Zix buffs. Not sure on the exact status of those, but we agree that he's in a bad spot. You can look up who i am but im currently the #1 Kha world. Is there any way i can talk to you guys or something about Kha. I have a lot of feedback to give and I dont want him to get over buffed where he is OP. I love his current playstyle but just feels weak. Seriously i would love to help or at least give any feedback i can so if you guys can contact me somehow that would be amazing.
: [ ! ] New AD Assassin Item in internal testing
: [FOLLOWUP] Tahm Kench
You could give a reason to take someone in tahms ult so it encourages them to communicate with his teammates and take someone with his ult. This is just an example but lets say tahm can ult somewhere but if he eats a teammate with his ult they arrive at the destination with +20% move speed (or something like that, that's a random number).
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: Balance Team Q+A: Ask Us Anything! [COMPLETE]
I love Kha's current play-style but he is still behind in strength compared to every other champion right now. Is he getting any changes? I feel it finally fits him with playing carefully and looking for isolation but was really wondering if anything would get changed while keeping his play-style
: Balance Team Q+A: Ask Us Anything! [COMPLETE]
: Balance Team Q+A: Ask Us Anything! [COMPLETE]
Master Kha'zix main and currently #3 kha in the world, I was wondering if he is seeing any changes coming soon, thanks so much! :D
: This seems really cool, but pretty dangerous too simply given how much power that is. Of course, tuning could be adjusted as needed, and Kha'Zix isn't really the powerhouse currently that he's been in the past, so maybe that's not even such a big deal. I can definitely see why it's a compelling idea, but I wonder if moving toward a charge direction would have similar snowball problems as Akali R. That said, you're not suggesting more charges on kill/assist, and maybe that's where most of Akali's R abuse cases have historically come from. But yeah, really interesting... Is someone could enlighten me as a non-Kha'Zix main, would this dramatically change the dynamic of how he evolves his skills? Does evolving R feel worthless at the moment? One of the issues I know has always existed on Kha'Zix is that the strengths of his evolutions, and thus the order in which players might rank them, can get jumbled around quite a bit whenever they're tweaked.
> [{quoted}](name=RiotRepertoir,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yBOFTuRx,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2015-08-15T02:31:16.720+0000) > > This seems really cool, but pretty dangerous too simply given how much power that is. Of course, tuning could be adjusted as needed, and Kha'Zix isn't really the powerhouse currently that he's been in the past, so maybe that's not even such a big deal. I can definitely see why it's a compelling idea, but I wonder if moving toward a charge direction would have similar snowball problems as Akali R. That said, you're not suggesting more charges on kill/assist, and maybe that's where most of Akali's R abuse cases have historically come from. But yeah, really interesting... > > Is someone could enlighten me as a non-Kha'Zix main, would this dramatically change the dynamic of how he evolves his skills? Does evolving R feel worthless at the moment? One of the issues I know has always existed on Kha'Zix is that the strengths of his evolutions, and thus the order in which players might rank them, can get jumbled around quite a bit whenever they're tweaked. D1 khazix only player. honestly his W just needs to not be worthless... Increase damage / lower cooldown and kha would be perfect. Please dont over buff him to where he is banned.
: Riot Pls
Will we be able to select only one role, or forced to select multiple roles..?
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Meddler (NA)
: Overall we're pretty happy with the ward limit per person. There's a limit to how much vision we think's right for the game (FOW's there for a reason), so the limit per player's allowed us to offer vision in other ways. Trinkets in particular we're really happy with - they generate some interesting gameplay. It's also put supports in a much more interesting spot, where they're able to invest in items rather than being forced to sink anywhere near as much money into vision. Something that is a bit of barrier to appropriate trinket use though for some players is that they're put off by the upgrade cost. We're planning to test removing the gold cost for the upgraded versions in the preseason as a result, find out if that has a good effect on the game. You should pretty much always be upgrading them as is, so it's a change that's got the potential to help players that aren't appreciating the vision system yet engage with it more. At the same time it would also free up a bit of gold for players that are buying the upgrades at present.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tl8Arxck,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-07-16T08:33:15.011+0000) > > Overall we're pretty happy with the ward limit per person. There's a limit to how much vision we think's right for the game (FOW's there for a reason), so the limit per player's allowed us to offer vision in other ways. Trinkets in particular we're really happy with - they generate some interesting gameplay. It's also put supports in a much more interesting spot, where they're able to invest in items rather than being forced to sink anywhere near as much money into vision. > > Something that is a bit of barrier to appropriate trinket use though for some players is that they're put off by the upgrade cost. We're planning to test removing the gold cost for the upgraded versions in the preseason as a result, find out if that has a good effect on the game. You should pretty much always be upgrading them as is, so it's a change that's got the potential to help players that aren't appreciating the vision system yet engage with it more. At the same time it would also free up a bit of gold for players that are buying the upgrades at present. I love this idea.. i would 100% want this in game. D2 and hate that awkward cost of the upgrade.
Nutty (NA)
: [LFG] Diamond 3 Jungle Main Looking For 5s Team to join.
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Cratz (NA)
: Diamond+ Team LF Diamond 4+ Jungle/Top For Contracted Team. *Possible Gaming House*
IGN: HTF Nutty What you want me to call you: Nutty Age: 17 Timezone: Eastern Role: Jungle Rank: Diamond 3 Top 3-10 Champs: Kha'zix, Jarvan 4, Rengar, Rek sai, lee sin, Nidalee, Vi, Any tank jungler. Availability: Anytime. Why you want to play: Played a lot of 5s, i get a long with almost everyone i meet and want to get a good team that will stay together for awhile. Your Dedication Level: I play to improve and if i lose i tend to play until i get better. Really dislike losing.
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Nutty (NA)
: [LFM] Looking for Plat 4+ to join our ranked 5s/3s team. Currently have diamonds
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Meddler (NA)
: We're not making any changes to runes or masteries this pre season - focusing on other stuff instead this time.
Then we should leave the jungle alone too. RIP my jungle that got me to diamond :(

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