: > But at the same time, the forums are meant to be representative of the greater community. Well, this isn't always true. The boards is a really easy place for people to voice their complaints, plenty of people don't come here to just say "WOW I really love X thing going on!" People who are satisfied with a product are less likely to voice themselves than someone who isn't, because the latter wants change. That means, you're more likely to find a skewed imbalance between the Boards and the community, because you're only seeing the people unsatisfied, not the ones satisfied. What you're talking about is called population sampling, taking a small portion of something, and applying it to the whole via ratio/percentages. That works, but you need an unbiased data source to do so. The best way to do this? Random surveys, that anyone has the possibility to get, via email. You're able to get unfiltered player opinion, and amass a better representation of what the community has a perspective on. To use the example my teacher used for me, it's like you wanted to see how much of a population likes books, but you went to a library to ask people "Do you like books or not", and then coming out with the conclusion "According to our findings, 100% of people like books, so we can deduce that X County really likes books".
I think if riot truly cared about their player base they could release the findings of these surveys but it may cause some trouble if the results point towards a negative view of the comapanies decision. If they only release the positive results people will catch on, and if they release negative findings it makes riot look bad. I dont think they will ever do this as I think their leadership is borderline incompetent (see scott gelb).
: I made a petition to remove promos
Theres no financial reason to remove them, they are part of the reason why they retain players in such great numbers. The only real draw to the game is their ranked system and if people lose interest or stop playing riot will risk losing another billion. Think about it, they have created the biggest game in the world using this system and the people that are addicted and that are obsessed with getting better will not quit over the promo system. They poured millions into understanding the psychology of their player base and they realize that the numbers of players retained far outweight the number of players lost of the promo system. I say retained as I feel league isnt really adding truly new players to the game anymore. I feel the newer generations of gamers will be swayed away by the BR genre in years to come
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: > [{quoted}](name=Oburrawatabonobo,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=EuohHhKY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-21T21:34:55.096+0000) > > That sexual harrasment lawsuit couldnt have happened to a more deserving company. Say what now?
Your descent down the wormhole can begin here https://mashable.com/article/riot-games-harassment-allegations/#rNTi.Ite2gqK
HeeroTX (NA)
: Fucking make Ranked individual merit instead of the damn Win/Loss BULLSHIT
They literally blew god knows how many millions developing the positional ranks and disbaled it within 2 months. Ten years later and this company still has no clue how to develop a decent product. That sexual harrasment lawsuit couldnt have happened to a more deserving company.
: > [{quoted}](name=Erol The Nomad,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9t9v45AJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-03T20:20:27.819+0000) > > Agreed. Getting mad at your team in chat is equivalent to throwing the game. It makes everyone play worse and try less 100% of the time. It's true, it just make the game experience exponentially worst for both side , the player who have a bad game and the team all arround this player.
: Agreed. Getting mad at your team in chat is equivalent to throwing the game. It makes everyone play worse and try less 100% of the time.
: Here is a quick answer to your topic that @Tuition Fee (NA) did : Ten reasons why it's better not to flame back Flamers usually get even madder when you don't react to their provocations. They get punished. You don't. Don't let one asshole ruin your day. Mute and enjoy the game. "Riot doesn't punish these people!" Trust me, they do. I have a few friends who've been permanently banned, and even more who've gotten their 14 day suspension. Bots are usually pretty accurate with these things. It's not defending yourself, and the bot sure won't view it that way. It's not worth your time. In the time you were typing, you could've gotten ten more cs, or maybe a kill. It accomplishes nothing, really. Flamers usually don't take your points into consideration, and you won't vent off any steam by flaming them back; they'll respond with something that pisses you off even more. They might be not so subtly flame baiting, trying to get you to use one of the zero tolerance words. Don't stoop to their level! Keep your hands clean. Your teammates are more likely to sympathize with you if you don't add to the toxicity. A few kind words always help untilt!
You mentioned those players get punished in some form. Yes this is true but in a matter of minutes they will have another account and probably be punished again. If you make any decent amount of money whatsoever their punishment system is irrelevant.
: 1: not everyone gives a shit about Riots internal drama 2: accusations are not confirmations
Its a little more than drama when it concerns sexual harrasment, sexual assault, and fucking up womens careers in the workplace.
: Few things: First, click reply if you wanted to repsond to someone else. Looks like you missed it for Ranmaru. Second, what does one have to do with the other? By which I am referring to in game behavior and whats his face? Why are we comparing apples to oranges?
Im uisng his actions as an example of Riots hypocrisy. They ban players for saying bad words an in imaginery video game and yet when one of their officers sexually assualts someone they give him 2 months vacation and some bull shit classes to take. If hes a corporate officer at a company like riot games hes making well over 500k a year. He probably spent that time vacationing somewhere lmao. A real good punishment from the bright minds at rito hq
: Scott Gelb and Riot Games
Yes this is exactly why they wait two years before investigating, how many people do you think left after being treated unfairly by him, those people will no longer be interviewd for investigative purposes (however maybe they will be interviewed/examined in court as the accusations I have seen are consideered sexual assault). If riot wants to actually be transparent and prove that they actually punish the people responsible, they should say what he was actually punished for or release him. Looks like we just have to wait for the court filings to become public to actually see what happens. They also waited for a publicly released article to go public before investigating stating they had no idea this was going on. This either shows they looked the other way for all this time or have absolutely zero corporate leadership and control.
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Bay B (NA)
: Can someone explain to me how ranked works?
Um it doesnt? The absolutely atrocious developers decided to use an 500 year old ELO system thats works perfectly for chess and tennis but applies horribly to team games. If you still believe in Riots talent and leadership after the kotaku articles you have a serious mental problem. Also I read recently that you have to submit a support ticket to get your mmr/rank fixed as one of the recent preseason patches fucked it up becuase rito devs dont test their patches worth a shit.
Lessy023 (EUNE)
: My apology ro riot games
Yeah make sure you apologze to the seaxual predators at riot games, some really great people they have working there
rujitra (NA)
: You do not get punished for being mad. You get punished for flaming, harassment, or verbal abuse. Other players violating the rules does not excuse you to do the same.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0IvE2nhg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-22T05:13:21.954+0000) > > You do not get punished for being mad. > > You get punished for flaming, harassment, or verbal abuse. > > Other players violating the rules does not excuse you to do the same. When you have to rely on a company like riot distributing punishment when they themselves are embattled in a sexual harasment/assault suit, you know you are straight fucked, Scoot Gelb should have been released months ago.
: no need to imagine, it actually happened. Worst thing is those trolls spiraled into the worst loosing streak i've ever suffered from, 16 games lost. Yeah fk trolls.
> [{quoted}](name=Ozzie Storm,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BVnfTFx3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-23T16:29:04.611+0000) > > no need to imagine, it actually happened. Worst thing is those trolls spiraled into the worst loosing streak i've ever suffered from, 16 games lost. Yeah fk trolls. I legit had 10 games that went sideways due to some pricks trolling and inting, dropped from g4 to silver 3 and am now climbing with 80% winrate udyr and nunu out of silver. Riots matchmaking is absolute cancer.
: Is there any reason for me to keep playing League of Legends?
: Hate speech earns a 14-day ban on the first offense to firmly drive home the point that this behavior will not be tolerated.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YisAB448,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-21T05:52:14.472+0000) > > Hate speech earns a 14-day ban on the first offense to firmly drive home the point that this behavior will not be tolerated. Riot should apply this same policy to Scott Gelb if you guys want to be taken seriously.
bioslug (OCE)
: Ranking System and Player match up
Literally went all year without any form of restriction, past two weeks have been absolute cancer when it comes to ranked. Really wish league would implement something like an esea in csgo for people that are serious about the game. Ranked these past couple of weeks makes me want to kill myself.
: 1000 ranked games
Yeah I wanna play with one of the rioters that is known for farting in peoples faces, that would be the true rito experience. I would be honored to smell one of their farts, I would wear it as a badge of honor.
Eedat (NA)
: "It wasn't me" doesnt hold up. Imagine if all you had to do to be as toxic as you wanted was just say "it wasn't me" enough times and they undid your punishments. Also, T1 didnt get any of his old accounts unbanned. They're all still perma banned.
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3IE5tE4N,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-19T22:51:21.405+0000) > > "It wasn't me" doesnt hold up. Imagine if all you had to do to be as toxic as you wanted was just say "it wasn't me" enough times and they undid your punishments. > > Also, T1 didnt get any of his old accounts unbanned. They're all still perma banned. Yes and now someone who told thousands of players to kill themselves is dancing around an lcs stage. Im legit waiting for the day it comes to light that someone actually killed themselves after playing with him. RIP rito, horrendous comapny with a sexual predator of a COO
: Why do I have to play with the Inting Non-English Speaking Premades
I have played with so many idiotic french canadians and chinese its unbearable
Prandine (NA)
: 1) This has nothing to do with Riot Support and everything to do with the other players in your game and how they didn't like your poor behavior. 2) Telling people to kill themselves has not nor will ever be considered acceptable behavior. This is why you got a 14-day ban as you shouldn't need a warning to know that that's completely unacceptable. It's okay to be frustrated that you didn't get the role you wanted but it is **NOT** okay to resort to this kind of behavior just because you didn't get your way. 3) Other people behaving poorly does not excuse your own poor behavior. If multiple people act up then all involved with the fight gets punished. 4) If you think this kind of behavior will fly in Overwatch think again as it won't.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E9rXTHzy,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-08-29T22:41:51.285+0000) > > 1) This has nothing to do with Riot Support and everything to do with the other players in your game and how they didn't like your poor behavior. > 2) Telling people to kill themselves has not nor will ever be considered acceptable behavior. This is why you got a 14-day ban as you shouldn't need a warning to know that that's completely unacceptable. It's okay to be frustrated that you didn't get the role you wanted but it is **NOT** okay to resort to this kind of behavior just because you didn't get your way. > 3) Other people behaving poorly does not excuse your own poor behavior. If multiple people act up then all involved with the fight gets punished. > 4) If you think this kind of behavior will fly in Overwatch think again as it won't. I mean Tyler1 told hundreds if not thousands of people to kill themselves and how is he rewarded, with a place on an LCS stage hmmm... good stuff
Cinth (NA)
: I seriously cannot get behind on how people just promote suicide like it's nothing.
Bro, Riot paraded Tyler1 around an LCS stage after telling thousands of people to killthemselves. If you think that you are going to get any "justice" from a company with the sexist morals they exhibit, you are mistaken
ToolooT (NA)
: Promotion games still piss me off...
Was in silver one promos and was paired with a person who was in their first ranked game. Surprisingly we lost. Riot has no fucking clue what the fuck they are doing. Can post op.gg for proof.
: ***
A. Your assuming they don't have separate accounts, the second my account was restricted I had purchased an additional un-ranked one within 10 minutes for $10 B. 20 minutes is not a long time compared to other games such as counter strike which give bans of up to one week for afk, trolling, grieving. C. Valid point on theory of prisoners island and revenue though
: New Champion Select
wow im glad these forums really help
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