: If there is being something done about said specialist, it's not going to be discussed with you or discussed in public.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=LkLdHAVb,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-24T01:53:04.943+0000) > > If there is being something done about said specialist, it's not going to be discussed with you or discussed in public. Wow okay. Next time put your moderator flair on, right now it just seems like you’re a regular poster.
Ulanopo (NA)
: Your "warning" is either a chat restriction or, if you've done something more serious, a 2-week suspension.
A chat restriction isn’t a warning though, its a punishment and an honor reduction.
Kei143 (NA)
: There is no useless champion. Therefore you are criticizing a playstyle of sitting back and doing what you perceive as not enough, which ultimately you are criticizing the player.
That's your opinion. If you look later I say that I agree shes fun in team fight but really not good in lane. You are absolutely trying to twist words out of context in order to make it negative. This is exactly what I'm talking about.
: Asking yuumi for help is a big one?
Calling yuumi useless was a discussion about the champion with others, not the player.
Kei143 (NA)
: How about we use your chatlogs that you previously posted and you tell me what you think is neutral from there.
Asking yuumi for help is a big one?
: "i'm not intentionally feeding, you guys just won't follow me up when i go in!" this statement can be both serious and non-serious. also when the enemy gets mad at you for playing a "no skill champion" while they are losing lane, it can be pretty funny. "what, why isn't all your skill beating me? why is your skill trying to fight someone 2 levels above you and with a way better KDA and way more CS than you?"
: please give your opinion if this deserves a chat restriction
According to riot and the people on this board it’s yes. It’s not common sense or reasonable to expect a chat restriction for, but since it’s easier to punish chat discussions they go as hard as possible to make up for the fact that they can’t really do much about the trolls. They can say they tried even if it doesn’t really positively impact the game for anyone.
Kei143 (NA)
: Neutral things are not punishable. While you may consider it neutral, it may actually be mildly negative instead. Just to add, asking for reports, passive aggressiveness, attitude of giving up, using age/KDA/rank to discredit someone are all considered mildly toxic.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=o8zF9tuE,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-22T10:52:20.218+0000) > > Neutral things are not punishable. > > While you may consider it neutral, it may actually be mildly negative instead. > > Just to add, asking for reports, passive aggressiveness, attitude of giving up, using age/KDA/rank to discredit someone are all considered mildly toxic. Well it’s pretty subjective then isn’t it? Neutral things are definitely punishable when taken out of context. They use neutral comments to further their argument that your conversations are negative. Same with the idea of “mildly” toxic. It’s just a justification of the nonsensical banning philosophy they’ve instituted so they can pretend to be tough on toxicity.
: >Rujitra owes this player an apology, That I can agree with you on. I've made Rujitra aware of the rule you had pointed out. It's not ok to call others liar on the boards, as it's rude and we're not always privy to all of the information related to a game. I apologize, but when I had pinged you and brought you into a pull-room, you were in the middle of a game. I waited for some time, but you'd been inactive, understandably. I'd pinged you again to message @moderator again when you were through with your game.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=LkLdHAVb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-21T06:07:00.705+0000) > > That I can agree with you on. I've made Rujitra aware of the rule you had pointed out. It's not ok to call others liar on the boards, as it's rude and we're not always privy to all of the information related to a game. > > I apologize, but when I had pinged you and brought you into a pull-room, you were in the middle of a game. I waited for some time, but you'd been inactive, understandably. > I'd pinged you again to message @moderator again when you were through with your game. Is anything being done about said specialist? There is clearly something wrong here.
: PB&M specialists calling other players liars
Stating that a player is “incapable” of introspection or something to that degree. Not a suggestion that he should be, just that he is. Definitively. In other threads he would call that negative and unconstructive if someone else said it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Eternity Winner,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=o8zF9tuE,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-22T04:35:35.924+0000) > > Welp time to play a buttload of games for the next 6 months Keep in mind, your progress is slowed if you have reports made against you that are valid, but not enough to punish. So stick to neutral or positive things in chat only.
Neutral things are punishable as well. Be careful.
: PB&M specialists calling other players liars
Even look today, he’s making general insulting statements towards people complaining, things he has no authority to dictate. His words would get him banned in a game, yet he’s put on a pedestal here?
Tony6969 (NA)
: Bans
I mean it’s unfortunate but that’s the byproduct of their “zero tolerance” system. Trolling is less punished than complaining in chat. I get why you’d go professional troll. I’m just asking them to delete my account instead. I tried. My restriction was unreasonable and they refuse to acknowledge it and keep re using the same copy pasted buzzwords to avoid actually reading the logs or having to think critically. It’s fine. That’s the game they want: trolls and people who don’t care about them. There are too many other games out there to waste time on this one. Toodles
: PB&M specialists calling other players liars
This guy is probably the worst part of the board. Most people even if I disagree with them are at least reasonable and polite. Said poster is consistently rude, arrogant, and unhelpful. If you look at his post history it’s much of the same. I don’t know what the term specialist means but he consistently violates the rules of the board as spelled out on the board. Namely under be helpful and don’t be a robot.
: This game isn't enjoyable anymore. And it's the community's fault.
Yeah the most frustrating thing I learned here is that ranked and normals are the same thing according to riot. Either that or specialists are just people who spend more time on the boards than actually playing the game. Also, winning doesn't matter. I was always at a loss to understand how people could support team sports games removing scores to make everyone happy, but you see it here. Literally asking people to stop trolling and help your team is a punishable offense to the crusaders on this board. Someone earlier was being rude with the "if u don like it don play lololol" but honestly its probably the best advice. Riot doesn't care, they already have your money. They have volunteers here to defend their bot decisions regardless of context or logic, while being even more passive-aggressive than all of the "toxic" players they love to act higher and mightier than. They have their volunteers to keep spreading propaganda of "actually no one in league really wants to win so its your fault for focusing on it" and the constant touting of "ackshually statistics prove that the majority of players don't care about winning" yet somehow these statistics never seem to materialize. I was going to wait to see if Riot responded to my ticket, but after viewing the way the "specialists" carry themselves on this board, I don't think it matters. There are way too many games out there where you can have a reasonable expectation of winning and not be punished for it.
rujitra (NA)
: Doesn't matter if it's "obvious inting", you don't get to flame and harass them for it. The first game you continually called "useless", and spammed when they didn't do what you wanted. You aren't their boss. They don't have to listen to you. And you aren't allowed to harass them when they don't. You were being passive aggressive towards/about the support virtually the whole game. The second game is clearly harassing the panth. Again. Doesn't matter what they're doing. Harassment is not allowed.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=fEzhT8cW,comment-id=0001000100000001,timestamp=2019-05-20T21:18:46.618+0000) > > Doesn't matter if it's "obvious inting", you don't get to flame and harass them for it. > > The first game you continually called "useless", and spammed when they didn't do what you wanted. You aren't their boss. They don't have to listen to you. And you aren't allowed to harass them when they don't. You were being passive aggressive towards/about the support virtually the whole game. > > The second game is clearly harassing the panth. Again. Doesn't matter what they're doing. Harassment is not allowed. This is really upsetting. I get calling for reports is frowned upon, I learned that one report is the same as 9, but if this is actually the dominant philosophy it’s really sad. Your characterization of harassment and passive aggression are so divorced from any reasonable interpretation of the phrases, yet you state them as fact. Very odd. Actually you’re harassing me by messaging me twice. The same number of times I clearly harassed panth.
: > [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=fEzhT8cW,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-05-20T18:55:55.952+0000) > > Accusing the Morgana constantly of being a troll is pretty bad, especially when it looked like she was even trying to explain things to you. > > And FYI, when they redesigned Morgana's passive, and added the CD refund on large monsters to her W, those were INTENDED to allow her to work in a jungle setting. No morg didn’t explain anything she was being super rude to everyone in lobby. Then went 0/x/0 and sat in a lane afk farming. I never flamed her for picking morg, just asked how she justified being toxic to me and others for not picking cc in lane then going an off meta pick. Seems like pretty obvious inting to just sit in a lane waiting to die
: Accusing the Morgana constantly of being a troll is pretty bad, especially when it looked like she was even trying to explain things to you. And FYI, when they redesigned Morgana's passive, and added the CD refund on large monsters to her W, those were INTENDED to allow her to work in a jungle setting.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=fEzhT8cW,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-05-20T18:55:55.952+0000) > > Accusing the Morgana constantly of being a troll is pretty bad, especially when it looked like she was even trying to explain things to you. > > And FYI, when they redesigned Morgana's passive, and added the CD refund on large monsters to her W, those were INTENDED to allow her to work in a jungle setting. No morg didn’t explain anything she was being super rude to everyone in lobby. Then went 0/x/0 and sat in a lane afk farming. I never flamed her for picking morg, just asked how she justified being toxic to me and others for not picking cc in lane then going an off meta pick. Seems like pretty obvious inting to just sit in a lane waiting to die
: First Restriction (10 Days)
Yeah I opened a ticket. Well see how it goes. I think yuumi is a lot of fun, especially in team fights, though for laning I’m not sure what she offers that any other support can’t do better already.
: First Restriction (10 Days)
Where was I flaming? Asking someone to help when they aren’t doing anything is flaming?
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