Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: July 4
Are the mage changes that were discussed still coming out in 8.14? Has Riot decided on what kind of changes they want to make to certain mage champions there were left weaker post 8.9?
: > [{quoted}](name=Rexxiee,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TW9ER5c1,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-06-22T15:32:28.204+0000) > > Multiple mages are doing better than well on multiple lanes. > > Its just a fact, mages are pretty much overpowered right now and the mage players are trying to put all the focus on bruisers. Funny i just went to hashinshins stream and there were 3 bruisers 0 mages played. Please tell me what mages are over powered right now besides brand? I'd like to know.
> [{quoted}](name=zarxus1234,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TW9ER5c1,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-06-22T15:34:59.842+0000) > > Funny i just went to hashinshins stream and there were 3 bruisers 0 mages played. Please tell me what mages are over powered right now besides brand? I'd like to know. Hashinshin already said the game would be better/more interesting if it were 5 melee vs 5 melee and no ranged champions. He doesn't even try to hide his bias... The fact that people actually quote him to back up their balance statements is hilarious when he calls champions like Riven and Fiora broken all the time too. I'd rather not see this game turn into the League of Jax/Aatrox/Darius/Kled/Olaf to satisfy one delusional meme streamer who can't tolerate the existence of anything being decent in the game except his own champion puddle.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 22
Would it be possible to get the original 2% max HP burn damage back on Liandry's torment? I feel like a lot of overreaction on the boards and people making PBE videos was not a good enough reason to nerf the burn so badly. Morellonomicon and Rylai's are just superior for both their price points and their niche in the game.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 20
What are your thoughts on the rise of supports in mid in general including both with the gold funneling strategy(taric/yi) and outside of it(lulu)? Are there any further plans to reduce the presence or viability of support champions in mid lane in general?
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 15
Why is Riot so quick to start buffing ADC because they don't get played for 1 day in LCK but sees mid lane being turned into a second support position, or dominated by AD champs and Vladimir and still does absolutely nothing for mana gated mages? Just because mages tend to have a far smaller playrate in solo queue doesn't mean that they shouldn't also have a viable lane to be played in without feeling like they're holding their team back. Especially once ADC start dominating bot lane again.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 8
Are there still follow up changes coming to other mages following 8.9? Cassiopeia in particular has lost a big amount of mid game power and unlike nearly all the other champions that tear was nerfed for, is an essential tear and archangel's staff user that has to build both in 100% of games regardless of what balance state they're in.
Kivolan (NA)
: What The Hell Are These Celerity Changes?
While Celerity looks good on paper for immobile mages it's usually always used to either make already hyper mobile melee champions even more mobile, or it's abused by ADC because of the synergy it has with Fleet Footwork. This punishes immobile mages that choose to take Transcendence twice as hard because not only are they missing out on the advantage of having higher starting MS at level 1 but if they don't take Celerity the gap between their starting/overall MS and anyone that chooses to take Celerity becomes even larger, making them feel even more immobile by comparison.
: Why does Aurelion want to take Nimbus Cloak over Manaflow Band? He gets far more mileage out of regenerating mana than he does when ejecting someone from his no-no zone and moving a little faster when he does it.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AOf3PUce,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-04T16:15:46.721+0000) > > Why does Aurelion want to take Nimbus Cloak over Manaflow Band? He gets far more mileage out of regenerating mana than he does when ejecting someone from his no-no zone and moving a little faster when he does it. It's up to personal preference and situational depending on the game and team composition etc but Aurelion Sol definitely can utilize the rune well should the player choose to take it.
Rioter Comments
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 1
Are any changes coming to Cassiopeia? She's been indirectly nerfed in so many ways from old mana regen runes, to archangel's staff, to the mana growth changes, to tear of the goddess, and now even celerity is getting nerfed as well. She has very few favorable match ups and feels extremely feast or famine for a mage with many games being decided before she is able to properly impact games.
: @Repertoir Mage's itemization rework failed and it should be addressed.
The AP item update was lead by PhRoXzOn not Riot Repertoir. If you're going to put a Rioter on blast at least call out the right one. The AP item update did introduce more build variety, and better build options by the way. There are definitely some aspects of the AP item update that failed but there were also positive things along with the negative like any update.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 30
Are there any more follow up changes coming to mages besides Taliyah, Viktor, and Anivia? Has Phase Rush landed in a better spot since it's last little buff or is it something that Riot is still looking to follow up on?
: I was trying a new build that game. But how does adaptive helm help? Last I remember she uses multiple abilities and doesn't spam the same one?
> [{quoted}](name=Melledoneus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nQTqEM7a,comment-id=00110000,timestamp=2018-05-25T13:54:47.832+0000) > > I was trying a new build that game. > > But how does adaptive helm help? Last I remember she uses multiple abilities and doesn't spam the same one? Most of her damage is loaded onto 2 part abilities except distortion and mimic distortion. Adaptive Helm directly counters the root damage on her tether and the mark damage from the sigil which both have to occur in less than 4 seconds. This also applies to the mimic version of both spells to. Leblanc's E, RE, and RQ are backloaded now as well so the initial hit does far less damage, giving adaptive helm a chance to mitigate even more of her combo as they're all 2 part abilities.
: So... Leblanc. With a replay this time.
If you're trying to survive a hyper fed LeBlanc as a tank like Shen try building Adaptive helm instead of Wit's End for MR next time. I'm actually amazed that some people still don't realize how hard Adaptive Helm counters LB's burst potential. You should also try taking actual tank runes next time to.
Rioter Comments
: Don't change Celerity rework Absolute Focus
They aren't nerfing it for mages nor does it have anything to do with mages, they are nerfing it because of ADC abusing it with Fleet Footwork because ADC ruin everything. It's a good change for the game overall the rune is insanely OP and easily abused by a lot of champions it was never intended for. I'd rather see that power put back into Phase Rush anyways.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 11
Is Riot still looking at putting power back into Cassiopeia as a result of the mana changes? Is Phase Rush going to receive more follow up work if Celerity gets nerfed as a result of people abusing it as a secondary rune?
: If you are going to replace "The Ultimate Hat" you may have to revert Malzahar nerfs
Malzahar was nerfed because he was/is OP. It actually has nothing to do with ultimate hat he had a 55% winrate for like 4 months straight way before runes reforged. Ultimate Hat had nothing to do with it.
koshkyra (NA)
: The runes in sorcery are more powerful than the keystones are
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 4
Will Rod of Ages get any buffs and/or changes like the one we saw during the last PBE cycle that got reverted? I think it's really fallen behind other AP items recently, and especially after the most recent patch.
Novalas (NA)
: PBE Chat with the Playtest Team - 8.10
Is there any upcoming work on Phase Rush or is it just going to be "We know Phase Rush isn't hitting the mark but we'll get to it eventually." until next season when Riot finally "remembers" that Sorcery exists?
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 2
Has Riot considered giving Cassiopeia back her base damage from last season? Maybe in exchange for some of her now high AP scaling? Abyssal Mask is no longer a viable first buy or even a viable item on Cassiopeia, and there is legitimately no reason for her empowered E base damage to continue being intentionally undertuned in order to force Cassiopeia players to buy large amounts of early AP when mana is more important than ever after 8.9.
Rexxiee (NA)
: @PSA for riot, dont fall for the jungle mains crying
Main Jungler complaints: "I'll be forced to fight the other jungler at level 2-3 over scuttle crabs, this will make so many junglers BAD AND USELESS BECAUSE THEY ARE BAD EARLY." You mean like how laners are forced to fight at level 2-3 against their counterpicks every game? The same reason that lane dominant picks crowd out other champions for patches at a time and make certain champions unplayable when that's the only lane they can be played in? "WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO FARM OR GANK? YOU TAKE AWAY MY EARLY PRESSURE." No Riot is finally balancing the jungle around leashing which they should've done a long time ago. The truth is Jungler's don't want to give up that early gank cheese where they are a level up with double buffs because it's the most likely to succeed due to having the least counterplay on the side of a solo laner other than blowing a flash(and still being forced back) or just not interacting with the other laner in a PvP environment at all. "LEE SIN IS GONG TO BE THE BEST ALL OTHER JUNGLERS WLL BE TROLL PICKS." Right now Jungler's have far more diversity than any solo lane as far as viable picks go. The jungle is not your ticket to freely scale up without having to get your hands dirty the way that solo laner's have to. Strong invade junglers exist, and they exist for a reason. You don't get to just rush to level 3 get off your early gank cheese and play hide and go seek with the enemy jungler all game until lanes end.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: April 25
Thoughts on Cassiopeia going into the future, specifically with the future mana changes? Her level 2 is going to be insanely powerful again but her scaling(which is supposed to be her niche) is going be taking a major hit from losing half of her mana growth as well as the nerfs to Tear.
Rioter Comments
: Thank you for reverting Leblanc
Lol on a serious note she's actually fun to play again but people seem confused about the fact that an assassin can _actually_ do assassin level damage because they're so used to her being forced to just stand there for 2 seconds.
: Ryze work on PBE
Wow I'm excited for the Azir change. I think one of the most significant changes he should get after changing his stab damage is removing the self-shielding on his E completely which imho should've been done during his rework. Azir should ideally be a high damage carry and not a hard-engage champion in most situations. Maintaining the self-shielding on his E just gives him too many generic windows to initiate and go in, instead of focusing on when a good opportunity to go all-in might be. The shield could also go back to only working when Azir collides with champions, it's still a far better situation than him simply getting a free shield with a high AP ratio just for dashing. It would also remove the frustrating aspect of him getting a free shield as he dashes away from ganks and bad situations as well.
Zed genius (EUNE)
: the assassin rework nerfed every assassin in the game basically and made some items broken in exchange
> [{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=leJZWP6k,comment-id=0003000200000000,timestamp=2018-04-11T22:26:31.719+0000) > > the assassin rework nerfed every assassin in the game basically and made some items broken in exchange Duskblade was reworked looooong after the assassin rework. Duskblade was reworked towards the end of season 7.
Zed genius (EUNE)
: because assassins were balanced around duskblade, whereas mages are not balanced around archaengels
> [{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=leJZWP6k,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2018-04-11T22:20:39.118+0000) > > because assassins were balanced around duskblade, whereas mages are not balanced around archaengels No they aren't almost no assassin built Duskblade and that's why they overbuffed it. No assassin got nerfed or changed when Riot reworked Duskblade and they did just fine back when Ghostblade was the holy grail of lethality items.
5050BS (NA)
: @Riot You are going to Buff Mages that Build Arch like you did for those that Built Duskblade Right?
The only 2 mages that should get buffed if Archangel's were to ever get nerfed would be Cassiopeia and Ryze but Riot will never buff Ryze until his rework for obvious reasons and Cassiopeia is still ok with this change because she has the option of going RoA first item and rapidly stacking tear. Cassiopeia and Ryze are the only two mages who's kits are completely balanced around the existence of tear and Archangel's Staff. Anivia is a decent user and so is Karthus but they're both ok without it to. Every other mage just jumped on the bandwagon and are just abusing what's strong, while Cassiopeia and Ryze have to build it in 100% of games regardless of what state it's in.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 30
Meddler (NA)
: Looking for topics for Friday's post
Does Riot plan on doing follow up work on older AP items like Rod of Ages and Protobelt after the AP item pass?
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Novalas (NA)
: Patch Chat with the Playtest Team - 8.2
What kind of changes to Cassiopeia are you guys looking at after the targeted spells changes? This is something that is sure to hurt her laning pretty substantially, and she has already had quite a few nerfs to her laning in the last 4-5 months.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: January 24
Is there a chance that champions can Cassiopeia can now become less mana gated as a result of the recent changes? I feel like regardless of where her winrate may fall extreme mana gating on a champion like Cassiopeia should not longer be required to balance her laning.
FilDaFunk (EUW)
: ARAM Dark Harvest Nerf
I just played an ARAM game where I was like 12-1 on Kalista to start and got a pentakill and everything. I couldn't do anything at all past 8 minutes though because a Rengar with dark harvest and duskblade literally did 95% of my HP in 1 auto. His Dark Harvest damage alone was 5.2k which is completely obnoxious considering the game was only like 17 minutes.
yeulx (NA)
: Is there any planned ezreal nerfs in 7.23
Ezreal is an ADC so Riot is gonna let him be stupidly broken till mid season and than decrease his base AD by 3, and then take another entire season to reassess whether he needs changes or not.
: Syndra is becoming Mordekaiser 2.0
She has a terrible winrate on this patch and it isn't because of runes it's because of all the bugs that make her frustrating to play, and Riot won't even address or bother to fix them. A lot of them have been lingering for patches, but the added ones in 7.22 just made it more unbearable.
: Besides Sona, who do you think is the best ARAM champion?
Zilean, Ziggs, or Veigar. The fact that Veigar's stun field takes up like half the lane, and he can't get flanked gives him huge advantages he doesn't have on summoner's rift. Same thing goes for the other two.
Rioter Comments
: But the passive counts as its own ability. So it should proc Electrocute.
It's not a seperate ability it's literally just on hit magic damage. Riot already said that Lux passive interacting with TLD was not what they wanted for the game and they intended to change it.
: Ahri's Q back doesn't count for the Electrocute Rune.
It's like this with every champion now. Taliyah Q only counts as 1 attack/effect, LeBlanc E only counts as 1 to.
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Rainfall (EUNE)
: We Have A Lot Of Exciting New Changes For This Preaseason.
Actually Riot did mention the orange essence change a while ago. Anyone who has been playing for more than a few months should've gotten at least around 70k+ blue essence to assuming they actually built rune pages.
: New runes needs nerf/changes
? Why would Riot change sudden impact to melee only when some of it's best users are ranged assassins like LeBlanc? No one said Domination was an assassin tree either it's a BURST damage tree and a number of champions will want to take domination runes for a number of different reasons.
giggit59 (EUW)
: Samsung skins?
So despite having a tremendous season(perhaps the best in all of league history) you don't think they also deserve top tier skins? They came back from playing in regional qualifers to 3-0 sweeping the other top 3 LCK teams. SKT has never done that in their entire history.
: For people who do not like the new Runes Reforged system.
It just created a lot more problems than it solved, and everyone is still just going to look up common masteries for their champions and copy them. Riot said the entire point of runes reforged was to make masteries more thoughtful and unique..... I wish Riot just got rid of the rune system but kept all the old masteries, and added some adaptive(AD, AP, Attack speed, or HP etc) early game stat bonuses based on main mastery specialization like they currently do on runes reforged.
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