Zemasu (EUW)
: Sivir - Yuumi botlane is Busted, Discuss here
Yuumi/Ezreal is far worse. its the least interactive lane you will ever experience.
: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b7gi21PE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-21T14:40:17.859+0000) > > because enchanters are the most degenerate class design in the game and shouldn't be viable in their own role let alone allowed to exist in other lanes Its almost like tank karma top and lulu display what happens when you let that happen.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b7gi21PE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-21T14:54:24.134+0000) > > Its almost like tank karma top and lulu display what happens when you let that happen. Karma is a bad example. She was one of many "supports" that just got shoved into the role. She was always intended to also be both a support and midlaner. That's why she has her Q for wave clear. Edit: and Tank Karma literally only works because of her Mantra E. .-. if they took that away, it would no long function
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 20
These nerfs to Sona are frustrating at someone who likes to play normal support Sona. She's not amazing in lane; she's squishy and frail and immobile and her heal costs a lot of mana for her to use for very little health pay off. I feel like you're nerfing her late game(where she really starts to shine as a support) with no compensation for her relatively weak early game.
: "I support Nubrac but I do not want him in my own games"
That's my thing. .-. Anytime an off meta thing like this has come up, people flock to defend them for what is amounts to griefing all because they call it an "alternate strategy." But I know good and well that if they had to play with it, none of them would want them in their game. None of them would think of it as an "alternate strategy" or as an "off meta pick." No, they'd think of it exactly as it is; they'd think of it as griefing and inting. NB3 is a scum lord but so is Nubrac and he shouldn't be defended for trolling in high elo games. Similarly, Take the Draw or whatever his name was(the one that played "roaming support Nunu") shouldn't have been supported either.
: So we are buffing Tristana while Varus can't even reach 48% Win rate in soloqueue.
They're actually buffing my babe? Hallujah. :/ She's intended to be "late game" but I find that there are a myriad of ADCs who are better than her late game while also having better mid and early games. Though, I wish they'd just tone sivir back some. .-. And revert the Jinx buffs that they gave her after 8.11.
NY64 (NA)
: Does Rift Herald do more damage if your team has slain an earth dragon?
I would like to know this answer too actually? This is a question I'd never considered. I guess it depends on if the the tool tip says Mountain Drag gives bonus true damage to turrets or if it gives *champions* bonus true damage to objectives. This is an important distinction because one implies that it just *just for champions* while the other implies that it is *any allied creatures or champions*.
: Junglers lane camping don't feel adequetly punished in farm and level gains
Jungle has become this huge, unmanageable beast, tbh. Jungle camping is and always has been an extreme issue but it used to have options for mitigating it, namely in the form of wards. Warding has been grossly nerfed over and over and over again, however. Wards don't last as long early game, they're on a higher CD early game, you can no longer *buy* green wards, a sightstone, or the tracker's knife, and even the support's warding item is, on average, not going to give wards unil 7 to 10 minutes into a game. They could *easily* make jungle more manageable by reverting some of these buffs/changes to fucking wards. Jungles are free allowed to camp because you just can't ward enough for them.
: Favorite Skin That you own , Skin that you wish you had , Skin for a champion that you don't play ?
Favorite Owned Skin: Riot Girl Tristans Favorite Skin I want: Pax Sivir or the soon released Arcade Cait Favorite Skin for a champ I dont play: Dark Star Jhin
: In your opinion which role has the biggest effect on the outcome of the game?
Jungle followed closely by mid lane. If the jungler is awful and doesn't gank and doesn't apply pressure and in general doesn't rotate the map very well, its 100% harder to win the game.
: When did Sivir become the best champ in the game?
She's good for a multitude of reasons: 1. She's been buffed. This is a pretty good reason but its completely true. 2. She fills a very vital niche as an ADC that other's can't and is important because of the meta we're in; let's face it, 90% of the best carries currently in the game are champions that like to go fast or have limited mobility to get into a fight. The meta champions are things like Hecarim, Aatrox, Tahm Kench, etc... Champs that want to get in and do a lot of damage but might struggle to do so; Sivir is an ADC that can assist them in that regard. She literally has a free righteous glory as an ult. The best part is that she also scales like a monster while being ridiculously safe so she can take care of herself in most teamfights. **TLDR; She fits the meta** 3. While this fits in with 1, its also its own separate point; her core item, essence reaver, has been buffed multiple times because for some strange reason, they refuse to just revert it completely to what it was before 8.11. .-. 4. She has a very straightforward, binary play style, more so than other ADCs, that means that even if she loses lane, she will *always be useful.* Her AoE wave clear is unmatchable so even if she loses lane really hard, she literally can single handedly stop the enemy team from pushing and her ult never depreciates based on her own strength. She can lose lane and still win game as she can easily stall games out and doesn't actually take all that skill to play well. I've found success on her without actually being good. 5. Other ADCs still have their early game base stat nerfs; less important but this means Sivir can more easily compete with them. 6. She's fairly generalist which is an issue that's not just solitary to her; Ezreal also suffers from this. By generalist I mean she fits nearly every comp and situation; she's never not a wrong answer.
: Sheen: After using an ability your next basic attack will do increased dmg If anything they should remove the fact that his q counts as a basic attack not the other way around
> [{quoted}](name=Imbetterthanmoe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0K3Bkj4A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-18T16:08:24.442+0000) > > Sheen: After using an ability your next basic attack will do increased dmg > > If anything they should remove the fact that his q counts as a basic attack not the other way around This I whole heartedly agree with...
: I don't think there's anything wrong with his kit, he's just very seldomly played because he's a very niche pick. His play style is incredibly awkward for most beginners but he is perfectly capable of climbing the ranks for those who master him.
> [{quoted}](name=WarmSpaceRide,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0sQywX1a,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-18T09:49:28.846+0000) > > I don't think there's anything wrong with his kit, he's just very seldomly played because he's a very niche pick. His play style is incredibly awkward for most beginners but he is perfectly capable of climbing the ranks for those who master him. OP also conveniently left out how ASol has the highest WR in the game according to OP.GG. He's a niche champ with dedicated mains because he is niche and also hard to play. His kit can function though if you're good which is proven by the fact that he has almost a 56% WR.
: You mean {{champion:41}}
> [{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sufcERJH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-18T15:20:04.918+0000) > > You mean {{champion:41}} Who is melee and therefore wouldn't be affected by a grasp change as far as I know. His Parrrrley still procs Tiamat even. That said, Gnar has spent most of the time since runes reforged without a keystone, worse than most of the other bruisers. Now he at least has conqueror but I know for a while, the one he took was Fleet. I hardly ever see Gnar take Grasp.
: Opinion: "fun to play against" is the most bullshit term to ever exist
: In regards to off meta play, why does everyone imply communication works at all?
He can do what he likes in a normal game with friends who all consent to his "off meta" playstyle if he wants. I, as a stranger who don't know him, don't trust him, and am trying to play ranked for a competitive experience don't want him to be doing his "experimental off meta strats" in my game. If he'd asked, I would flatly *tell him* I didn't want it. I don't understand why its okay for one person to go against what the other four people who have to play with him want. Why is it okay for a single player to warp the game around himself for *his* own enjoyment and ignore what detriment it causes to the four other individuals? You can't answer because guess what? Its *not* okay for him to do that. It creates a toxic, tense, stressful and tilting environment and *that* does deserve bans for it. It flat out, no questions at all, deserves a ban.
: > [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pq16T6EY,comment-id=000300010001,timestamp=2019-06-17T19:08:57.130+0000) > > Half of those ADCs do not go mid. .-. Corki and Quinn are literally the only ones and Corki is the only one that does it with *any* regularity. Ezreal used to go mid but I haven't see that since season 5 or 6. > > I think the better way to phrase it would be if you want mages in midlane, then marksmen need to be given compensation buffs to either be able to deal with these new lane opponents with high base damages, CC, and an item specifically intended for dealing with AD champs(most with the intention to specifically *deal* with the marksmen that they'll now laning against, btw; mages and assassins are intended to pop squishies; it doesn't get much squishier than a marksmen) or to be able to solo go mid. Either way, the issue has never been ADCs shoving mages out of bot. Mages have always been able to go bot and destroy. They were just more popular when ADCs were hot garbage last season(which if we go back to, I will personally find a way to rally a boycott of Riot Games because that was fucking ass.). Every time I hear "ADC was bad!" I remember how they immediately bounced back and became broken again. Also, all of those ADC's can and have gone mid.
> [{quoted}](name=TsunamiWave22,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pq16T6EY,comment-id=0003000100010000,timestamp=2019-06-18T01:16:22.596+0000) > > Every time I hear "ADC was bad!" I remember how they immediately bounced back and became broken again. > > Also, all of those ADC's can and have gone mid. Have gone mid doesn't mean they currently could *now* for one. For two, they didn't "bounce back." They had their items partially reverted and that was literally *it.* Maybe you can show me where enchanter supports got rebuffed, where their base stat nerfs got returned, where the cost of their items got reduced or where their commonly used runes, ANY OF THEM, got reverted back? They were never OP, especially not at the end of season 8.
TheRakun2G (EUNE)
: Lets waist time together :)
Waist time together? Okay, no need to strong*arm* me. I'll *leg* it over. Let's just cut to the *heart* of the matter. I'll let Riot *toe* the line... .. I'll stop, I swear.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rainbow Slayer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pq16T6EY,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-17T05:19:24.304+0000) > > They already tried to "diversify" the Support role by adding champions such as Bard, who are designed to roam and be impactful across the whole map instead of being tied to one single lane. Not only that, but they completely changed all of the Support items, added damage for support items, and have enabled more champions to be impactful at Support. > > Riot is not at fault, it's everyone who plays League of Legends. The players are what make the game. Obviously you don't remember the times of Mordekaiser ADC, which dominated for a while. Riot has tried for years to break the Bottom lane meta, but that simply is not what the majority of players want. It doesn't matter what drastic champions and mechanics Riot introduces into the game, players stick to what they know and the entire game revolves around it. Yeah, some people at Riot have put in some good effort to experiment with bot lane meta. The Mordekaiser bot lane didn't have very much potential of being good for the game though... Ranged vs melee matchups, if they actually focus on laning instead of roaming, are usually horribly one-sided. Either the ranged champion pokes a melee champion who can't retaliate until they can't farm properly, or the melee champion manages to get a lucky lead via some cheese and then just keeps on snowballing until they can gapclose and burst the ranged champion. There isn't much of any back-and-forth though. In Mordekaiser bot's case, he had the snowballing built straight into his kit via the bonus xp on W ensuring he was always ahead. The time {{champion:74}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:115}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:30}} went bot was really nice though. I miss that. I'd like it if all of these could go bot occasionally: {{champion:74}} {{champion:115}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:63}} And in exchange, these could sometimes go mid: {{champion:81}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:21}} [...and I realize half of these already go mid sometimes. That's part of my point - it would only be fair if mages also go bot.]
> [{quoted}](name=Hemulen Magi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pq16T6EY,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2019-06-17T05:43:49.171+0000) > > Yeah, some people at Riot have put in some good effort to experiment with bot lane meta. > > The Mordekaiser bot lane didn't have very much potential of being good for the game though... Ranged vs melee matchups, if they actually focus on laning instead of roaming, are usually horribly one-sided. Either the ranged champion pokes a melee champion who can't retaliate until they can't farm properly, or the melee champion manages to get a lucky lead via some cheese and then just keeps on snowballing until they can gapclose and burst the ranged champion. There isn't much of any back-and-forth though. In Mordekaiser bot's case, he had the snowballing built straight into his kit via the bonus xp on W ensuring he was always ahead. > > The time {{champion:74}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:115}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:30}} went bot was really nice though. I miss that. > I'd like it if all of these could go bot occasionally: > {{champion:74}} {{champion:115}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:63}} > > And in exchange, these could sometimes go mid: > {{champion:81}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:21}} > [...and I realize half of these already go mid sometimes. That's part of my point - it would only be fair if mages also go bot.] Half of those ADCs do not go mid. .-. Corki and Quinn are literally the only ones and Corki is the only one that does it with *any* regularity. Ezreal used to go mid but I haven't see that since season 5 or 6. I think the better way to phrase it would be if you want mages in midlane, then marksmen need to be given compensation buffs to either be able to deal with these new lane opponents with high base damages, CC, and an item specifically intended for dealing with AD champs(most with the intention to specifically *deal* with the marksmen that they'll now laning against, btw; mages and assassins are intended to pop squishies; it doesn't get much squishier than a marksmen) or to be able to solo go mid. Either way, the issue has never been ADCs shoving mages out of bot. Mages have always been able to go bot and destroy. They were just more popular when ADCs were hot garbage last season(which if we go back to, I will personally find a way to rally a boycott of Riot Games because that was fucking ass.).
PekiCodex (EUW)
: Do YOU support non-meta strategies?
If it actually works, for one, sure. I used to like playing AP Varus Mid in season 5 and, for a brief period of time recently, that was actually meta. But I don't want to see it in my ranked games; I just don't. Play the game properly because I don't know you, I don't have to trust you, and, guess what? I don't trust you. So just play the damn game normally so I can get my LP. And thirdly, I'd prefer to have permission asked of me. Because its not fair for one player to hold everyone else's enjoyment hostage. :/ It just isn't.
: So umm Yorick can't summon maiden in Morde's Shadow Realm?
Yes. Apparently you can't bring pets into the shadow realm. .-. Its an issue for many champions as half of their kit are pets. Heimer, Zyra, Yorrick, Malzahar...
: Good riddance. Almost killing pyke just for him to walk back with like 80% health was cancer.
> [{quoted}](name=5or6stores,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V5RlpoGK,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:30:09.920+0000) > > Good riddance. Almost killing pyke just for him to walk back with like 80% health was cancer. Except they literally didn't fix that. .-. Its still the issue with the champion, regardless of where he went.
: Except they arent easy to dodge at all if you dont have high mobility. Either you dodge his hook or his stun, and as a assassin with that huge health regen he just needs to gapclose while hitting you to outtrade you, if you take even slightly too much then he ults and you cant dodge it. He is hella oppressive towards lower mobility champs.
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V5RlpoGK,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:05:19.117+0000) > > Except they arent easy to dodge at all if you dont have high mobility. > > Either you dodge his hook or his stun, and as a assassin with that huge health regen he just needs to gapclose while hitting you to outtrade you, if you take even slightly too much then he ults and you cant dodge it. > > > He is hella oppressive towards lower mobility champs. Then why should he be bot when most of the roster is low mobility? >_>; And as an ADC player, yes, his hook is very easy to dodge. It doesn't go through minions, he can't charge it up while stealthed, and he generally doesn't go in after missing it because that's usually a suicide mission. They're extremely telegraphed. You know exactly what he wants to do everytime, in ever situation. He wants to land a Q, stun you, and then ult. You can literally stop him point blank by dodging a very easy to dodge skill shot.
: An assassin with 2 forms of hard cc? That shit doesn't belong in a solo lane with traditional assassins who all have very conditional cc. Though if I'm to be totally honest, solo lane Pyke has never been a problem for me. Really just free kills when people pick that shit into my Fiora so as far as I'm concerned, it could stay. I need the freelo.
> [{quoted}](name=FioraWillCarry,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V5RlpoGK,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-17T15:07:13.947+0000) > > An assassin with 2 forms of hard cc? That shit doesn't belong in a solo lane with traditional assassins who all have very conditional cc. > > Though if I'm to be totally honest, solo lane Pyke has never been a problem for me. Really just free kills when people pick that shit into my Fiora so as far as I'm concerned, it could stay. I need the freelo. Two forms of hard CC that are ridiculously telegraphed and fairly easy to dodge. It makes no sense to me to nerf a playstyle that is *not* problematic.
Rioter Comments
: PSA: Basically everyone who has played with Nubrac (the "roaming" teemo support) hates him.
I admit that the teemo probably deserved it; I thought the singed support ages ago deserved it as did the Nunu one. But NB3 is also a scumbag, tbh. He's really toxic and awful and Riot should do more policing of their streamers, especially if they want to be more active with them.
: Nightblue gets a player Falsely banned.
Doesn't surprise me in the least. NB3 is a child, tbh.
: Morde ult needs some kind of particle.
Maybe not even a particle but a sound of some kind, sort of like Sion's rage scream(which is terrifying even if he *is* on your team* or the Pyke music when he's close by and you're in ult range. Anything really, because it is a little off putting to suddenly just have someone disappear with your ally.
: > [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:30:01.057+0000) > > I'm an ADC main, not a scum bag. I have standards Those words don't string together cohesively You play a class that literally has a slave, who is usually your emotional whipping boy, and then you right click people, and then get on the forums whenever you lose games and blame poor balance that your class actually has enemies who can close the gap on your 2 1400 damage crits per second and lifesteal, armor pen, etc. And kiting has been streamlined so immensely that it's not a skill anymore it's just the norm. It's like WoW how the old hunters had to staggerstep and the new ones just run in circle mashing their rotation and disengage adc takes zero skill, it just gets hard countered, and the only reason this has to work this way is because at its core ADC is an overpowered concept.
> [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:36:38.191+0000) > > Those words don't string together cohesively > > You play a class that literally has a slave, who is usually your emotional whipping boy, and then you right click people, and then get on the forums whenever you lose games and blame poor balance that your class actually has enemies who can close the gap on your 2 1400 damage crits per second and lifesteal, armor pen, etc. > > And kiting has been streamlined so immensely that it's not a skill anymore it's just the norm. It's like WoW how the old hunters had to staggerstep and the new ones just run in circle mashing their rotation and disengage > > adc takes zero skill, it just gets hard countered, and the only reason this has to work this way is because at its core ADC is an overpowered concept. That's really funny coming from the guy who literally plays a class of champions who just has to run at you, mashing buttons and the only thing they have to worry about is being tanky enough to survive the initial engage. Whooo, I killed someone as Garen because I *ran at them, hit Q, and pressed R!* What a talented man that person is; give them a fucking metal.
: > [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:05:57.341+0000) > > As an ADC Main, Thank You. :( Everyone just assumes when you're frustrated and complain that you're just being whiney when in reality, you're just frustrated that no one on the team wants to do the bare minimum to allow you to play the game. Its extremely frustrating to win lane but know it won't matter because the support is playing someone like Brand or Lux or, lately, Yuumi and your jungle/mid/top all picked carries. It never fails that the game is lost because it doesn't matter; you can't 1v5 no matter how fed you are and even if your support is a Yuumi, I often find I don't see her after laning phase; she's usually attached herself to one of the solo laners who usually need the least amount of protection. > > Another thing to mention is that I don't think that most people realize just how *large* some of the enemy gap closers are. Just for a frame of reference, at level 18, Tristana has the highest normal AA range of any ADC in the game at 661. That is her *normal AA Range* with no abilities or RFC increasing it. 661 units away. Now compare that to the ranges of several assassins and diver's dashes/engages: > > {{champion:238}} His W's Target range is 650 but the effective radius of it is 1950. His Ult range also is 625. He literally only has to W forward and then ult and he is range of a Tristana at her max AA range. > {{champion:164}} Hookshot has an affective combined range of 1200. She can just Hook shot from behind her team and the Tristana will *never* know and even better, will be stunned. And that is while being inside her team. This isn't even acknowledging her ult which gives her an *additional 475 range.* > {{champion:84}} Shruiken flip is fairer than other assassins, I will readily admit but as a skill shot, it has a range of 650 and getting hit with it makes it a global dash. Her ult also has a range of 600 on the first cast and a range of 700 on the second. > {{champion:131}} Her ult range is actually fucking *huge.* 825 is her ult range and if she hits you with her Q(which is weird to dodge in general and has a range of 900), she literally gets to do that *twice.* > {{champion:121}} Not only does this fucker have stealth so he can literally just free walk up and nab Tristana with no warning but he also has a jump with a range of 700 to 900. So once she blows her jump(which is a longer CD than Kha'zix's as well; 14 seconds compared to the bugs *12*) to get away from his stealth, he can literally free jump her with no real counter play from Tristana herself. > > And these are just a few examples. If you want you can compare these to less safe ADCs like Jinx or Kog who use abilities to extend their range further than Trist(Jinx gets up too 700 range in rocket form and Kog gets up to 710); it still doesn't look amazing. There's only so much an ADC can do when everyone champion has a dash or blink larger than their AA range. You could play yasuo adc, then it'd all work out
> [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtmNNO86,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-06-14T14:12:12.684+0000) > > You could play yasuo adc, then it'd all work out I'm an ADC main, not a scum bag. I have standards
: Am I the only one who like the old rune system better?
Eh, I don't miss the old *rune* system per say. But I miss the old *mastery* system. I felt like there were more options and even if there wasn't, there was at least an option for everyone. I miss Deathfire Grasp, Courage the Colossus, Fervor of Battle... I felt like the old masteries were at a good, balanced point when they decided to do rune's reforged.
: If you don't peel for your ADC: Don't expect them to survive.
As an ADC Main, Thank You. :( Everyone just assumes when you're frustrated and complain that you're just being whiney when in reality, you're just frustrated that no one on the team wants to do the bare minimum to allow you to play the game. Its extremely frustrating to win lane but know it won't matter because the support is playing someone like Brand or Lux or, lately, Yuumi and your jungle/mid/top all picked carries. It never fails that the game is lost because it doesn't matter; you can't 1v5 no matter how fed you are and even if your support is a Yuumi, I often find I don't see her after laning phase; she's usually attached herself to one of the solo laners who usually need the least amount of protection. Another thing to mention is that I don't think that most people realize just how *large* some of the enemy gap closers are. Just for a frame of reference, at level 18, Tristana has the highest normal AA range of any ADC in the game at 661. That is her *normal AA Range* with no abilities or RFC increasing it. 661 units away. Now compare that to the ranges of several assassins and diver's dashes/engages: {{champion:238}} His W's Target range is 650 but the effective radius of it is 1950. His Ult range also is 625. He literally only has to W forward and then ult and he is range of a Tristana at her max AA range. {{champion:164}} Hookshot has an affective combined range of 1200. She can just Hook shot from behind her team and the Tristana will *never* know and even better, will be stunned. And that is while being inside her team. This isn't even acknowledging her ult which gives her an *additional 475 range.* {{champion:84}} Shruiken flip is fairer than other assassins, I will readily admit but as a skill shot, it has a range of 650 and getting hit with it makes it a global dash. Her ult also has a range of 600 on the first cast and a range of 700 on the second. {{champion:131}} Her ult range is actually fucking *huge.* 825 is her ult range and if she hits you with her Q(which is weird to dodge in general and has a range of 900), she literally gets to do that *twice.* {{champion:121}} Not only does this fucker have stealth so he can literally just free walk up and nab Tristana with no warning but he also has a jump with a range of 700 to 900. So once she blows her jump(which is a longer CD than Kha'zix's as well; 14 seconds compared to the bugs *12*) to get away from his stealth, he can literally free jump her with no real counter play from Tristana herself. And these are just a few examples. If you want you can compare these to less safe ADCs like Jinx or Kog who use abilities to extend their range further than Trist(Jinx gets up too 700 range in rocket form and Kog gets up to 710); it still doesn't look amazing. There's only so much an ADC can do when everyone champion has a dash or blink larger than their AA range.
: How many older players feel like they only play 2-5 champs due to reworks?
This just makes me think of the variety of junglers I used to play but no longer do. I actually would have considered myself a jungle main for a brief period time in season 5 and 6 until they literally reworked all of the junglers I used to play and enjoy. Sejuani, Warwick, Nunu, Maokai, and on a smaller scale, Rammus and Diana. I used to have a much larger roster of champions I enjoyed to play, mostly tank junglers, but now they've all changed and i haven't really got the time or energy to dedicate myself to learning them again. I work more than I did in season 5, I live on my own now and have my own shit to deal with. My pool of champions has literally just shrunk to ADCs because they all have similar playstyles. I just dont have time to relearn the champs I played for the jungle or really, relearn the jungle. It has changed so much and is constantly changing so it's hard for me to invest in it. With ADC, it's ateast a by in large stable role, except for the last half of last season(which was stressful and upsetting since if my class of champions had stayed like that, I dont think I would have continued playing and, with the amount of stuff I have invested into this game, that would have been total shit). I think that reworking champions is a good thing... but I admit there hasnt been a single champion to date they reworked that i look at and say I want to play. I'm still upset that they reworked and trashed Sejuani. I miss her old ult. Hell, I miss Maokai's old ult.
: > [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oaEOEkHG,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T18:40:45.015+0000) > > That said, her boobs are fantastic. > > And they've already said that they'll be fixing her neck so IDK why this post is reappearing again. .-. They've already informed people via Twitter that they're working on fixing the neck. I think a lot of people (myself included) are just kind of baffled that the splash (and the non-prestige) went through dozens of people and apparently nobody said anything lol
> [{quoted}](name=Jhins Girlfriend,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oaEOEkHG,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T18:47:38.527+0000) > > I think a lot of people (myself included) are just kind of baffled that the splash (and the non-prestige) went through dozens of people and apparently nobody said anything lol I mean, I feel like Kai'sa's is far more egregious.
FSRER (EUNE)
: Can we finally get a punishing system at PBE
IDK, I find that the PBE is a lot less toxic than live servers because everyone knows that if someone gets tilted or is being flamed, they can *literally leave without being punished.* I kind of enjoy that freedom. :/ Plus, its the PBE. Why does it matter?
: > [{quoted}](name=Xalasmeni Banana,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oaEOEkHG,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-13T17:59:13.157+0000) > > My god. > > Stop this feminist bs already please. > > Chainmail bikinis are bad, big breasts are bad, everyhing is bad. > > Artists should do art. It's not fun for artists to be scolded every 10 mins on their work about why tits are big and why the outfit is revealing. > > While i agree that her neck is positioned weirdly i am pretty sure that the issue people QQ about is how "sexualized" she looks ...The post is literally about how broken her neck is, the post mentions literally nothing about her outfit or her boobs
> [{quoted}](name=Jhins Girlfriend,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=oaEOEkHG,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-13T18:33:23.347+0000) > > ...The post is literally about how broken her neck is, the post mentions literally nothing about her outfit or her boobs That said, her boobs are fantastic. And they've already said that they'll be fixing her neck so IDK why this post is reappearing again. .-. They've already informed people via Twitter that they're working on fixing the neck.
: Morde sitting at 70% ban rate, 13% pick rate, and 56% WR even with 0 expereince on him
Everyone who keeps saying buy QSS is ignoring the fact that QSS doesn't fit into every champions build seamlessly. I'm namely thinking of mages but also tanks and bruisers(though bruisers should be able to handle Mord)
Larriet (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kdIWtbE0,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-12T16:59:46.662+0000) > > That one isn't quite as bad as Kai'sa's. All of Kai'sa's position in her splash art looks rough and her face kind of ends up looking very masculine. What's wrong with a masculine face?
> [{quoted}](name=Larriet,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kdIWtbE0,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2019-06-13T02:36:11.874+0000) > > What's wrong with a masculine face? Noting except this isn't looking masculine because she looks masculine. This is looking masculine because the splash artist struggled with her pose and the perspective and put out a lack luster product. The anatomy and pose the Kai'sa splash is *bad.* It baffles me that people are so quick to call out Caitlyn's floating giraffe neck but not the fact that Kai'sa's spine looks too short for her body, her face is tilted at an odd angle, and her neck is too wide. And that's not even touching on her hips and torso being off as well. I think Kai'sa's picture, from an artistic stand point, was extremely difficult for the artist to manage and it shows. It needs a rehashing to fix it up and make it look less contorted and off putting.
SirHydro (NA)
: ***
How are they promoting rape? By depicting it or putting a rapey undertone? They aren't saying its a good thing; in fact, it is being portrayed as extremely negative. I'm sorry, I try to refrain from saying things like this but, if you think this promoting rape, you're stupid. .-. Its not promoting anything; its using literature devices to tell a more interesting and symbolic story. As an English Major(focus in Creative Writing), yes, I am okay with them using literature devices to tell a more interesting story. If that happens to include using rape undertones to push an action or character as being *evil* then so be it.
: > [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Mt8MtWJg,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-12T21:12:39.314+0000) > > Isn't that the point? I'm not reading these comics(I don't give a shit about Lux) but I'm 90% certain that Sylas is a villain character. He's character pushed to villainy due to circumstances and wrong doing against him but he's still a villain. Why shouldn't he look controlling and "rapey" over a character he is intended to control and manipulate and destroy the innocence of? I think the cover, given the connotations, is fine. It would be different if he was intended to be a love interest or friend; it would be concerning. I'm not saying it's not the point, lol.
Fair enough! :) I misread/misunderstood your post.
Sora Omo (NA)
: I think going for the look "control and manipulate" is fine but he can still have that look without looking rapey.
He is rapey though... Rapey connotations can have symbolic reasonings, as they do here. Again, I haven't been following the comics but Sylas's role in them is likely intended to be a destroyer or catalyst for the destruction of Lux's innocence, which means a rapey vibe for Sylas is warranted. Rape is usually considered a destructive catalyst for ruining a character's(particularly female) innocence in literature. He's metaphorically raping Lux's innocence. Which is bad. They aren't sugar coating it; whatever he is doing to her mentally and emotionally is *bad*.
: You're a bit late on this one because this cover was revealed after issue 1, but yes. Yes, it's rapey as shit.
Isn't that the point? I'm not reading these comics(I don't give a shit about Lux) but I'm 90% certain that Sylas is a villain character. He's character pushed to villainy due to circumstances and wrong doing against him but he's still a villain. Why shouldn't he look controlling and "rapey" over a character he is intended to control and manipulate and destroy the innocence of? I think the cover, given the connotations, is fine. It would be different if he was intended to be a love interest or friend; it would be concerning.
: Riot dropping the ball on recent splash art, can we PLEASE talk about this??
That one isn't quite as bad as Kai'sa's. All of Kai'sa's position in her splash art looks rough and her face kind of ends up looking very masculine.
Tailypo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=0E0EL19k,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-11T19:29:31.963+0000) > > At least with Dark Star, they gave them to champs that don't get a huge amount of skins; Karma doesn't have a lot of *really* good skins and Shaco, as much I as I hate the champion and think he's toxic, hasn't had a skin in years. Even Jhin doesn't have a ton though he's definitely more popular. > > I'm not sure how I feel about their choices for the Arcade this year though. Especially since I think Kai'sa's isn't very good. :/ Something about her anatomy is off in the splash art and I feel like the way she's positioned isn't very good. Theres nothing wrong with her fkn anatomy. Give me a break.
Yeah, there is. Her spine looks twisted out of shape and her legs/hips look way too wide. And if it is anatomically correct, its still not a good position. I can tell they were going for something action-y but the position and composition are really rough. The splash needs more work.
: 2 legendaries back to back (ez and jhin) and 2 MORE adcs are getting skins (kaisa/caitlyn) plus tristana. Like hot damn xD what happened to other champs? Other classes? I was hoping Xerath gets another skin, lol was planning on picking him up jeez. I bet more adcs will get skins next cycle.
Maybe they're sucking up for the more than half a season that picking an ADC was trolling. IDRC if they give ADCs skins; they actually gave my main a skin which is hype. Not only that but an *icon* too. I've wanted an icon for Tristana for soooo long.
: The new arcade skins are cool but Xerath hasn't had a skin since 2015
At least with Dark Star, they gave them to champs that don't get a huge amount of skins; Karma doesn't have a lot of *really* good skins and Shaco, as much I as I hate the champion and think he's toxic, hasn't had a skin in years. Even Jhin doesn't have a ton though he's definitely more popular. I'm not sure how I feel about their choices for the Arcade this year though. Especially since I think Kai'sa's isn't very good. :/ Something about her anatomy is off in the splash art and I feel like the way she's positioned isn't very good.
: ADC'S
Mmm... I don't personally like getting Cull. The best advice I have for farming as an ADC is to just sit in the practice tool and practice. There's not really a hint, trick, or tip get better at it. Just practice and maybe watch the minion wave to see which minion your own will attack.
: > [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VFAhAH6P,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-10T18:14:45.762+0000) > > it's not us, we sit on a property owned by a major conglomerate that refuses to keep the regular gate open 24 hours. I keep asking them to make it 24 hours but they refuse because it costs too much > > that said, when I give explicit and concise directions to guests; they insist on asking for a physical address so they can stop thinking and let the computer do it for them :( Yes it couldn't possibly be because its 10 at night and they're already tired and frustrated that your stupid business can't inform guest somewhere that the main gate is closed and list an alternative address. Again, if I'm arriving at a hotel at 10 at night, I've probably already been driving 7+ hours. I just want my hotel room. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VFAhAH6P,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005,timestamp=2019-06-10T19:12:20.193+0000) > > and i have previously stated you shouldn't be driving because of those issues. No, you haven't; now you're just lying to better fit your narrative. Secondly, I shouldn't be driving because my disability means I can't remember directions from a map and need someone telling me step by step? How ableist can you get? So because, according to you, I can't read a map, I shouldn't be allowed to do a necessary function of adult life? Not because I can't hold a steering wheel straight or because my vision is bad. No just because I can't and don't endanger other people by reading a map while I'm driving, I shouldn't be driving at all. Maybe the idiot who is looking at a map instead of the road or fellow drivers shouldn't be driving.
: > [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VFAhAH6P,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-10T18:14:45.762+0000) > > it's not us, we sit on a property owned by a major conglomerate that refuses to keep the regular gate open 24 hours. I keep asking them to make it 24 hours but they refuse because it costs too much > > that said, when I give explicit and concise directions to guests; they insist on asking for a physical address so they can stop thinking and let the computer do it for them :( Yes it couldn't possibly be because its 10 at night and they're already tired and frustrated that your stupid business can't inform guest somewhere that the main gate is closed and list an alternative address. Again, if I'm arriving at a hotel at 10 at night, I've probably already been driving 7+ hours. I just want my hotel room. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VFAhAH6P,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002,timestamp=2019-06-10T18:42:50.603+0000) > > you keep making excuses for yourself > > i've driven 16 hours to my mom's house without knowing how to get there because I can read a map and understand it. > > i challenge you to have your friend go to some place and you drive to him; but you can't use GPS to get to him. You have to think and read maps to find where he is. Could you do it? No because I've literally previously stated I have a disability that causes me to have short term memory loss and struggle to process things; has absolutely nothing to do with my ability to "think" and everything to do with the fact that my brain functions differently from yours in a way that I have no control over ability to fix. Its just broken and I thank you for reminding me of that. Furthermore, you're blatantly just ignoring my previous post that made the point that *even with a goddamn map people wouldn't be able to get to the accurate gate if the only address they were given was the one that closes at 10 pm.* Also congrats on being able to get to your mother's house, a place you should know the location of and the general direction of. Congratulations. You got there. What do you want? A cookie? A GPS could have gotten you there too with less consulting of a map and more looking at the road. How do I know? Because I use a GPS to drive 17 to 15 hours from MN to MS every year for Christmas and have done this several times in the three years I've lived in MN.
Bazerka (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TtydEmqd,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-06-10T18:20:26.128+0000) > > I'm cautiously interested. I actually didn't like Nexus Blitz very much; I liked the idea of it but a lot of the random occurrences could end up being really one sideded(like the loot teemo always seemed to spawn and stay on the winning side's half of the map...). This seems like it could be a lot less snowbally and one sided. I'm also curious because I've never actually played an Autochess game before. > > Tristana better be in it. >c Totally hear you, the thing to keep in mind is: Nexus Blitz still used the same core mechanics as League (top down, click to move, MOBA style), TFT **isnt**. The gameplay is different and the way you play the game is different :).
> [{quoted}](name=Bazerka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TtydEmqd,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-06-10T18:31:51.121+0000) > > Totally hear you, the thing to keep in mind is: Nexus Blitz still used the same core mechanics as League (top down, click to move, MOBA style), TFT **isnt**. The gameplay is different and the way you play the game is different :). This is all true! :D Plus, if this sort of like a chess game, it'll be a different kind of strategy than a moba game would be. So yeah, I guess I am pretty excited to give it a shot. :) I often feel really crap for being low elo at this game; it requires a lot of micro skills and reaction time and not everyone can keep up on that level. :c But this seems like something that would be more friendly to everyone. Which is exciting; its something that'll be enjoyable for all elos of players. :D … As long as they have Tristana. She is bae. :c I'm still sad I never got the Mechs vs Minions board game that Riot made a few years ago. Just was too expensive and now its hard to find.
: > [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VFAhAH6P,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-10T18:14:45.762+0000) > > it's not us, we sit on a property owned by a major conglomerate that refuses to keep the regular gate open 24 hours. I keep asking them to make it 24 hours but they refuse because it costs too much > > that said, when I give explicit and concise directions to guests; they insist on asking for a physical address so they can stop thinking and let the computer do it for them :( Yes it couldn't possibly be because its 10 at night and they're already tired and frustrated that your stupid business can't inform guest somewhere that the main gate is closed and list an alternative address. Again, if I'm arriving at a hotel at 10 at night, I've probably already been driving 7+ hours. I just want my hotel room. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VFAhAH6P,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-10T18:31:27.793+0000) > > except we constantly send emails to people explaining how to get in after hours; and we have a dedicated person to call before they arrive to give them directions; but they still get lost. > > I've driven 16 hours and still made it to my hotel > > BECAUSE I THINK Because you work there. Driving 16 hours and arriving at the hotel you work at? Amazing. Truly proof that GPS is awful and no good. You can get to the hotel you work at after driving 16 hours. And again, do these emails list the correct address? If so, its *still not the GPS's fault* and its completely the fault of people. Which would occur regardless of whether they were using GPS or a map. If you, to quote you direction,"I THINK", why can't you think and reason out how this is a person problem and not a technology problem? >_>; I can reason this out clearly and concisely.
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