SanZero (EUNE)
: dude... they told me literally " "Defending yourself", "he started first", "he said worse things" aren't excuses." that's their logic accept the insult and move on or get a ban
This is what I was told but I was not arguing in what he used as an example of me arguing was me asking when I was toxic.
SanZero (EUNE)
: I don't get it either... what did they said to you?
He told me I am perm banned I asked if there was anything I could do maybe take a year off or something and he told me there is no way as of now to be unbanned.
The 13th (NA)
: There's no explanation lol. They made a mistake but won't own up to it because it's a million dollar company and they don't care about you. Toxic people who get away with things will end up spending more money than people who get bullied out of playing the game and that's really all that riot cares about imo
I agree I wish there were different systems for banning but it is what it is. They rather perm ban all causing people to just make new accounts to smite them or never play the game again which is what has happened to a large majority of my friends and honestly I am giving up myself no point in starting over and purchasing my skins back. If there is no way to prove I am not that toxic and regain my account why bother.
: What is a champion you have yet to see being played this season?
{{champion:69}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:44}}
rujitra (NA)
: Arguing and continual negativity. It does not matter whether you "open mid" or not - you saying so in chat created a negative environment and is not acceptable. You arguing with another player is not acceptable. You blaming others is not acceptable.
This could go on forever thank you very much for the conversation I really do see what you are saying. I just wish there was a better way of handling it because yes I was negative but I still feel there has to be some sort of justification. I can mute but how does that help in a team game. I can't just leave I am still stuck with these people for the next few minutes of my life so why mute them when there is always that chance we could come back. I do appreciate the feedback not sure how all the down votes really help but thank you. There is not really a point to this back and forth still won't get me unbanned at this point I am just annoyed that all the money into the account is just wasted now. That is the part that really bothers me TBH.
rujitra (NA)
: Arguing and continual negativity. It does not matter whether you "open mid" or not - you saying so in chat created a negative environment and is not acceptable. You arguing with another player is not acceptable. You blaming others is not acceptable.
The chat was already negative. I did not create it. I asked my support to stop taking cs only to be blamed for it.
rujitra (NA)
: Blaming other players... saying the game is over and to "open mid"... etc. Sure, if you'd rather call it "negative attitude" than pure *flaming*, fine. But it is against the rules regardless.
Where did I blame them. The game was over. By 14 minutes top had one tower gone and the second less than half and Fiora was 6/2 and bot was being 3v2 tower dove with no help and I was being blamed for not being aggressive enough. The overall score was like 12-3. How is me saying the game over bannable. When in the meantime I am being flamed and attacked by my team.
rujitra (NA)
: You were banned for your behavior, and given your history. Your account was "on thin ice" given your recent final warning (14 day ban). Their behavior (and how **consistent** it was over time) may not have merited a punishment.
Yeah I was on thin ice but what did I do that was against the rules other than saying "open bot" which it still wasn't because I still defended. Just cause I say I am going to punch someone does not mean I should get a ticket for assault if I just walk away in the end. I did not flame. I did not feed. I was not name calling which I will admit I did in the past. I was in no way the aggressor rather the victim/scapegoat for an angry team trying to use me as a way to get out of the fact they were losing us the game.
rujitra (NA)
: That is your right. You do not get to break the rules just because you refused to mute them.
But they get to and then I get banned for it?
rujitra (NA)
: That is not a discussion to be had in the middle of the game, and regardless, it still comes across as "you're wrong" and it's still negative behavior. You were warned with multiple prior punishments yet continued this sort of behavior.
Where is the flame though. You're so adamant about me flaming but when did I flame? Sure it came across as negative but it was never intended that way and I have no way of explaining that because it is an auto ban based off language and past instances. I did not flame and I was not toxic in any other way than defending myself. Yes that is wrong but should I not be allowed to explain myself to someone or have some sort of human interaction before just losing my whole account and all I have done on it. I had no intention of flaming in this game and I didn't I felt for the lagging riven which is why I said nothing to her. and it is hard to discuss out of game when they just report me and leave. Like I said I had full intention to add them or explain after the game because if I was incorrect about what they were flaming me for I would have apologized.
rujitra (NA)
: In fact, when there is a better solution, that **is** the law. You are only permitted to retaliate against someone when there is no viable other option. If you could've walked away, but you chose to fight back, or they stopped hitting you and you kept assaulting them, you are getting arrested, period. In League, there is another viable option - the mute button - that can be used at all times.
I do not wish to mute because sure they are flaming but if they need help I still help and if they are muted I cant see that
rujitra (NA)
: > PAPA S4LT: im curious how him helping the lagging guy is smart? > PAPA S4LT: youre 1/7 so how is he helping > [All]PAPA S4LT: open bot im done > PAPA S4LT: ry ganking my lane instead of leaving me 3v2 > PAPA S4LT: ok then dont expect any better from me > PAPA S4LT: i asked my support to stop taking cs at 11 first words then i piing jungle at about 16 after being ganked 3 times with no count > PAPA S4LT: good luck youre getting banned > PAPA S4LT: add me as friend watch replay then apologize > PAPA S4LT: GO WATCH REPLY > PAPA S4LT: i will do > PAPA S4LT: too > PAPA S4LT: and you can apologize Constant flaming/harassment.
I asked a question. I told a guy calling me a jack ass he would be banned and "add me as friend watch replay then apologize" this sounds worse than I meant I was trying to type fast I meant more add me we can watch the replay and whoever is wrong will apologize which I was 100% serious about
rujitra (NA)
: It does not matter what others did. Others breaking the rules does not make it okay for you to break the rules.
How does that make sense? Punished for defense? Imagine if that was a law? Everyone who defends themselves would also be in jail with the person who attacked them. Where is the logic in that other than babying an already soft community and world.
rujitra (NA)
: You were banned for flaming. Period. Full stop. Flaming is against the rules. The rules do not say "it's okay if they start it". You fucked up and broke the rules. It was your fault, and you did do something wrong.
Who did I flame show in logs where I flammed
: > [{quoted}](name=PAPA S4LT,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=48AjI5Ga,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-13T00:56:08.114+0000) > > Explain what I did against the rules? I did not feed. I did not insult or flame my team. Where did I flame them. I get it looks like I argued all game but I said nothing for 11-15 minutes of the game(game was 26 minutes in total). It only shows my end not the names and attacks I was getting by my team saying I was pinging morde over and over and the soraka saying I was inting and not being aggressive in an already losing lane. I did not want to push a fed lane so I stayed under tower resulting in tower dive after tower dive and me being flamed for it. I did not respond to half the messages they sent during the game. You spent the entire match arguing, while the purpose of chat is to help your team win the game. Cluttering it up with negativity is against the rules. You insulted your teammates on their poor performance. They know they're 1/7. You don't have to throw it in their face. Harassing people like that is against the rules. You announced that you were giving up and decided to help the enemy team win ("open bot im done"). For some reason, you think that just because you didn't run up to them and die to give them gold and help them win a little bit harder it means you didn't assist the enemy team, but that's incorrect, and you did. Assisting the enemy team is against the rules. The only chat messages included in your chat log are your own for a single, extremely good reason: they are the only ones taken into account for your punishment, because they're the only ones in your control. The things other players said and did in your match might produce in you an impulse to do certain things that may include breaking LoL's rules, but your behavior is your own, and you are responsible for it. If you really think about it, this is a good thing. If a toxic player's goading could exempt you from punishment for your flaming them, calling for reports, etc., then it would logically go the other way as well, resulting in punishments for players who didn't necessarily break any rules but weren't quite as friendly and positive as their teammates. Can you imagine a world where "didn't participate in the dance party and ignored all of our jokes" was a valid report that could get someone suspended for two weeks? We don't want that situation anymore than we want "called our support a braindead waste of space" to be considered an _invalid_ report just because, say, the support was telling their team to harm themselves while they merrily ran it down mid. I'm sorry you've seen worse, but the system wants your behavior to be _acceptable_, not just _less unacceptable_ than what you have seen in others. I'm happy to hear that your behavior has improved, but the system wants your behavior to be _acceptable_, not just _less unacceptable_ than what you have demonstrated in the past.
I fully get that but I did not throw the 1/7 in anyone's face my top was 1/7 he stated he was lagging from the start I was not attacking this man at all I was asking why Yorick staying top was a smart idea he was in no way stopping the Fiora he should have helped mid or bot rather than chase a Fiora around the map. Logically you do not consistently chase someone you cannot catch. I expecting him to gank mid or bot at least once because if one lane loses or has no chance of winning you should help another get fed to combat the fed champion on the other team. But after countless names and being told he was in no way going to help and being insulted by my support I was done playing the game. Can you not understand how that would be a terrible situation for me as a helpless 1000 health adc. I wanted to no longer play and I knew they would not surrender which they didn't so I wanted the other team to push bot and just end because it was at that point a waste of my time. I get my chat is the only thing that gets me punished but how is that fair? You're basically teaching people if you get attacked do not defend yourself just take it and move on. This is what leads to why I was 14 day suspended an inter in my 2nd promos again with no percausion. I get banned for being mad and they move to their next promo to either get their lane or feed. The open bot I get was a little much but I still played the game and I still did defend bot and all other towers. I regret saying it as I had a moment of giving up but I just wanted to get out of the game but I cannot forfeit on my own and my team wouldn't do it either because they were not done flaming me and feeding the enemy.
: Bro, you spent the entire game arguing, you tried to help the enemy team, you think "defending yourself" is a thing you accomplish by flaming back... You obviously didn't spend those 14 days actually learning what behavior is against the game's rules, and Riot realized you never would, so you're permabanned.
Explain what I did against the rules? I did not feed. I did not insult or flame my team. Where did I flame them. I get it looks like I argued all game but I said nothing for 11-15 minutes of the game(game was 26 minutes in total). It only shows my end not the names and attacks I was getting by my team saying I was pinging morde over and over and the soraka saying I was inting and not being aggressive in an already losing lane. I did not want to push a fed lane so I stayed under tower resulting in tower dive after tower dive and me being flamed for it. I did not respond to half the messages they sent during the game.
rujitra (NA)
: >I recently came off a 14 day suspension which I honestly changed from. No you didn't. Much, if not all, of this chat log is you arguing with or blaming teammates. You gave up this game (mentally, even if you kept playing), and used chat to spread negativity.
All game I was insulted and I will admit at first sure I gave up but I still did what I could to stop them from slaughtering us but it was impossible to stop a fed Fiora, Fiddle, and Miss Fortune. I was consistently called names and insulted by my teammates. I get that sure I argued but do you expect me to just take abuse from them and not say something. I was raised by lawyers I was taught to defend myself and apologize if wrong and see others point of view. Which is why I never flamed or attacked the lagging/feeding riven I said nothing to her just the morde who chose to not help me and the soraka who told me to die and stole cs and said she needed it since I would not push a 3v2 lane.
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