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: Hey Meddler can I ask for your thoughts on Disarm with Irelia bringing back the mechanic, since it seems like a blind clone imo
I think the difference between blind and disarm is that during a blind, your champ can still technically auto-attack, it just never goes through. A disarm is where your champ is locked out of even performing the auto-attack animation. I'm not entirely sure if this is true, but if I'm to guess, that means stuff like {{item:3074}} and {{item:3085}} still goes through when blinded, but can't when disarmed.
: Wasn't it already pointed out before about amumu having disarm?
Amumu's ult CC, iirc, is actually called "Cripple". It's both a snare and a disarm. The only thing your champ can do is cast their abilities (and any summoner that isn't flash).
: We talked about him in patch planning for 8.7, and while we aren't taking him on immediately in lieu of other work, we put him in a "bucket" of champions that we can pull from if we finish up some of our other planned work in the patch/get good progress on some of our stuff slated for the next large patch. When we do work on him I can't confirm whether it'd be a buff or small reworky type stuff, but he's definitely not forgotten!
I think all he needs is some good CC. Good enough to where you could land a couple Qs, and go on your merry way. And the perfect ability for this would be to rework his W. Hell, considering how slow he is, I'd wager that you could make this CC like Ryze's, instant point and click, but cleanse-able. I know you guys have been aiming to remove point and click CC, but both Ryze and Karthus could be the exceptions to this, due to how immobile they are.
Reav3 (NA)
: No, she went into early ideation shortly after Galio Shipped.
Damn......not entirely what I suspected. So, if that's the case, does this mean Swain was started around Warwaick's release, and Aklai's near Urgot's?
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Eedat (NA)
: Is Wukong the oldest champ that has no kit changes?
I think you're right. Not even Karthus is eligible since he had some changes to his W in season 6. (Click the arrow beside "Release date") Hell, i even learned some stuff about a couple champs. Like Leona, for example.......her ult buffs her autos........which I NEVER knew about.
: {{champion:202}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:164}} Excuse me?
Yes......I'm serious. I never implied that that music was bad, it's just Irelia's is better.
ĵcker (NA)
: old eve was just a blue bimbo in a kinky outfit. new eve actually fits the succubus theme
Sometimes a bit too well...... "A girl just wants to rip your throat out with her teeth." She scares me.
: Eh, I think this Irelia looks extremely close to her pre-VGU self. She retains the same hair colour, armour design and overall aesthetic. Sure, she looks a bit different but this looks more like a modernization than a complete reimagining like Swain and Galio.
Sion and Galio were complete reimaginings. I'd say Swain (and Evelynn too) is on about the same level as Poppy (kept/modernized the theme, changed the character). Irelia, along with Warwick, are exactly what you said: "modernizations" (kept the theme pretty much the same, character still relatively the same).
: Well then i disagree. I'd say Elementalist Lux and Jhin (not the login) have had the best soundtracks and background musics by far. Kindred and Lucian also get honorable mentions by me. Edit: I don't get why people downvote non-provocative opinions. Are people really this salty?
In my opinion, Jhin *had* the best music.........but he just got beat. Don't get me wrong, Jhin has fricken fantastic music, and I thought Riot would never top it. But looks like i was wrong on that!
Rodnii (NA)
: Irelia Login Music & Splash
I'm saying it here.... #This is, hands down, the best music Riot has released so far. Feel free to disagree, but this.........this is on a whole other level. EDIT: I haven't stopped listening to it, and it KEEPS. GETTING. BETTER. I know that this is usually said as a running gag most of the time, but I'm completely honest right now. #THE MUSIC DEPARTMENT NEEDS A GOD DAMNED RAISE!!!
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: > [{quoted}](name=TeCoolMage,realm=OCE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=inmj6ER9,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-16T17:48:06.843+0000) > > Exactly, why not give the same treatment to Lux passive? If the auto fails, still use the animation. There are other indicators afterwards to tell you if it's a fail anyway But how do you decide which animation should be used? If target has a stack of passive when you issue the commande it crits?
To be honest, that's probably the best option. I don't think people should be too concerned about this. In fact, it could lead to a bit more skill expression for Lux. People would get used to the crit anim when they're marked, so if Lux is able to attack *then* mark, it could lead to some very surprising situations for the opponent. Kind of similar to how Diana can throw out her Q the moment she lands on someone with her ult, and refresh her ult. Albeit, Lux would be FAR easier to pull off.
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Bârd (NA)
: That's what people said about Ornn. Trust me, you don't want Kai'sa to get buffed. These boards have an anyeurysm whenever Vayne is good, and this is Vayne 2.0.
I can understand overbuffing a champ when they're new...........but the 500 range on her auto's is so fricken brutal. If you don't have God tier positioning with're dead. Bumping it up to 525 will certainly give her more breathing room. And in terms of damage......the only damage buffs she has gotten was in that hotfix they deployed for her. The current buffs for her in 8.6 never touch her damage.......unless you consider more attack speed more damage. In my opinion, these current buffs is exactly what she needs, and she may very well be in a very healthy state afterwards.
: I personally would be more ok with its removal had I heard how Squad5 felt, since it sorta felt like you guys were deviating from his original vision with Ornn by removing that mechanic
I'm sure this isn't the only time this is going to happen. League isn't a hobby, it's a business. Sometimes, you are going to have to give up your vision for a champion for the betterment of the entire game. You could probably go to every champ designer at Riot, and they could tell you something that they REALLY wanted in the game, but just could not convince anyone else to their idea.
: > [{quoted}](name=Maple Nectar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Nrb6qpge,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2018-03-15T20:51:39.020+0000) > > Regarding Ornn W, I'm hoping that I can provide a bit of some of the reasoning for why we opted to remove it. This wasn't something that was removed trivially as a "oh this guy needs a nerf we should take this away!", and was something that designers on Live Gameplay, Champion, and even off team talked about a ton before making the change. > > **What we liked about Unstoppable on W:** > 1. It provided a satisfying high moment for Ornn when he outsmarted his opponent/s by blocking their cc. > 2. It was a unique skill test on a tanks kit that players could master. > > **What we didn't like:** > 1. CC Immunity on a low cd ability meant that windows of engagement were low for his opponents (this may be less of an issue now that the base cd has been increased). > 2. You didn't get much in the way of feedback when playing against Ornn when your cc was blocked. At times it could even just feel like a bug, "Why didn't my stun work?" or you just had to accept that a guy walking at you breathing fire was immune to cc (kind of a weird thematic). > 3. You were indiscriminately punished for trying to do something to Ornn when he was using his W in most cases. When he used his W, the only realistic counterplay was to not interact with him until the ability/shield/brittle proc had fallen off. You couldn't stop the channel, you couldn't easily sidestep him, he had a shield to soak any of your damage, etc. > 4. Unstoppable added another mechanic to an already loaded spell when factoring in the passive. You got damage from the w, damage from the brittle proc, zoning power from brittle even if you didn't proc it, a knockback if you attacked them while brittle, a shield, cc immunity...might be forgetting something. When stacked on top of eachother, it somewhat trivialized the importance of lane phase for Ornn - meaning he was typically able to make it through unscathed, and even if he fell off post lane phase, it meant his opponent had little opportunity to gain or press a lead against him in very the most critical part of the game for them. > > What it boils down to is that the conversation wasn't about whether the mechanic made Ornn too strong from a performance standpoint, but rather that it led to undesirable gameplay that couldn't really be tuned around or learned. > > Disclaimer: I'm sure I forgot a plethora of points for both what we liked and what we didn't, but I want to stress that this wasn't a decision that was made lightly. Having a cool mechanic taken away always feels bad, and we try to avoid it as much as possible, but there are some rare times when we believe that it's the right thing to do. There may be a point in time when we can revisit his kit and add some mastery somewhere (or even make his items cooler now that players have more experience with that particular system), but for now he's likely in a reasonable spot for at least some time. > > What would you guys find cool as a replacement assuming that you couldn't get unstoppable back on his W? for me, Ornn W was what made Ornn... Ornn. I will never pick him up again after this, because it was an odd mechanic to learn, then it became rewarding and unique once you learned it. Ppl just needed to learn how to play against him the same way you have to wait for tryne ult to end to kill him. Or give a clear visual or sound that the CC has been blocked. Ornn became like every other champ without that mechanic. You could have nerf everthing else to the ground, but the unstoppable is what gave ornn his identity.
The Unstoppable was his identity? Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you there. The identity of a champion is what you think of when you think of them off the top of your head. Darius - Lane bully that REALLY likes to fight you Garen - Spin to win Zac - super long range engage, and knockups for days Jhin - Long range burst damage etc....etc... The first thing that comes to mind for Ornn is not "Unstoppable tank that can walk through Veigar E". No, his identity is that he can engage on you from half a screen away with a giant Ram to your face, and he can build his own items. I'm not arguing the decision behind removing the Unstoppable from his W...........but saying it was his entire identity is pretty ridiculous.
: I'm completely wondering where this meme format came from like, this movie has been out for years now what the hell
Hey, getting Rickrolled came from using a song from the 80's. So, it could be worse.
Raw (NA)
: Riot, I made you a honey turkey sandwich.
How dare you. How can you be so inconsiderate? They specifically like ham and cheese, damnit! ######Plus 10 points if you get the reference.
: **T H I C C**
> [{quoted}](name=SaltLord451,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Hgph04rX,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-03-12T23:50:34.712+0000) > > **T H I C C** No, no, no....sorry, but that don't apply here. Sneaky is a pretty small guy. What the hell am i talking about?
Rioter Comments
: Well you already made a prediction of which position and which champs in that position (top) should get the skin, and you may think that you failed at that and so may others, but i dont see it that way because for me its Riot that failed not you. In other words yes to the suggestion, go ahead and share your opinion of who should get the ultimate skin instead of another prediction which is not needed really ;) I always enjoy your content anyway cheers
Welp....made Part 4, aaaaaaaaannd it's getting NO traffic. Great.
: In terms of deserving I find it hard to believe Irelia isn't due for a skin asap. Its been 3 years since her last skin and it was a 750 skin that personally, I hate. She has never gotten a skin that is above 975 in a landscape where 1350 skins are popping out what feels like every patch. I mean, cmon, Frostblade came out 6 years ago. SHE DOESNT EVEN HAVE A SKIN WITH A BACKING ANIMATION. Thats my biggest thing, I love back animations and playing a champ that doesnt have one kills me a little. I guess I'm praying for a skin in general that is up to today's standards but with the upcoming rework I guess there is a good chance she gets modernized there.
It's been 3 years since Order of the Lotus........I could have sworn it came out sooner than that. Anyway.......she is next for a VGU......and we may even see her next patch.
: That General skin is his Chinese splash art for his General skin
*facepalm* I'll fix that.
: I think it might be Master Yi. Or Yasuo.
They both have Legendaries.....thus disqualifying them.
Rioter Comments
: > Cooldown changed to 20/18/16/14/12 from 18/17/16/15/14 Cooldown now starts when the effect ends rather than when the effect begins. Uhhh?
I suppose it's because their E could reset the W.
: I only logged in to comment on your apology to all of us, but dude really nobody actually thinks you need to apologise to us besides you yourself. i can probably speak for all of us when i say that we enjoy the threads you made about the next ultimate skin, why? because it made the waiting for it more bareable and somewhat fun, speculating which champ it could be and why that champ and when it would come out and so on. even if you had not made these threads, all of us would probably stil have thought that it would have been a top laner which would also be fair since all the other lanes/positions already have theirs.... but no... RIOT DOESNT GIVE F..CK! they only care about their favorites champs and apparently they also have favorite positions lmao, if they truly cared about what we think they would not have pulled this bullshit on us and giving another adc the ultimate skin..... its the same shit for champs some are forgotten for years and dont get anything while others already have 10 skins and keep getting more and more..... missfortune..... hmmm 11th skin now? it just pisses me off that we have to wait for atleast another 16-18 months probably until the next ultimate skin and maybe it wont be a toplaner once again..... im just tired of being pissed off and all thats left is just allot of disappointment... i was even the first to comment on riots video ( State of Skins | /dev diary) about the ultimate skin and asked them why another adc? but surprise surprise.... got nothing back at all.... i guess thats just the way they do things not caring about their community as much as they say they do, only when they really need to say something because of loss of players will they act and not out of kindness and appreciation to their players... otherwise they would have been fair and given toplane the ultimate skin of this year.
Can I ask your opinion on something? What would you like to see out of Part 4? I was thinking of not making a prediction on who may get an Ultimate skin, but instead give my opinion on who should get the next Ultimate. So...which would you rather see? A prediction, or a suggestion?
Binford (NA)
: Is Azir mini rework balance a bigger failure than pre rework Azir?
It's because of how good he is in pro-play. He has a similar problem as Ryze, where he sucks in solo-queue, but is God tier in pro play. Really, the only way to fix a problem like him and Ryze is to separate pro play balance from solo-queue, but, I've been told that that is a TERRIBLE idea.
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Meddler (NA)
: Current version is 'if your CC is still on them when you hit them with a spell or attack'. Duration to get the empowered attack is the duration of the CC as a result.
Can I just say that I LOVE this direction your taking? It plays SO well into her E-W-R combo!
: It seems like Paleo Electro has left the building due to shock from riot’s idiotic choice of ultimate skin this year lmao Think most of us are waiting for a response from you and that part 4 of the ultimate skin series prediction and why the fuck they chose an adc instead of toplaner.... sigh.....
I made another thread, but no one read it. I'll repost it when there's a little less hype.
: As a cheap person who doesn't buy skins, im going to say that i don't agree with adding a new tier of skins. Why? Because of the "Mecha Kha'zix Effect" What is that you say? Well, let me explain, when Mecha KhaZix was introduced, they said that it was not going to be the norm, that they were going to continue making skins like they always did... and the 1350 price tag was going to be an exception because making skins for KhaZix required extra work. But now? Now almost all the champions are released with a 1350 skin and almost all the recently released skins have that price. The last 975 (permanent, not legacy) skin released was Moo Cow Alistar. I can bet, that If Riot introduces a "Mythic" tier, then the Legendary ones would almost dissapear.
I disagree because this time is different. GGMF still has the model changing effects......Legendaries don't have this. Mecha Kha'zix became the norm, because 1350 skins are relatively easy now. New model, particles, and a backing anim. Legendaries take it one step further by having a new VO and more new anims. The new Mythic tier will go another step further by giving you the ability to change models in game. And then Ultimates will introduce something never before seen in a skin.
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: ***
I won't.....cause I've had a Teemo support where we fricken annihilated the other bot lane. I've also had a Xin Zhao support.....that one was a mix up, but he played VERY well, and, needless to say, we easily won that lane.
: tbh I rarely see this, but yeah it sucks then..
Neither did i cause I dodged. I made this post afterwards.
: So I guess by trolling you mean play badly ? What else do you expect from one trick, not everybody is ready to lose lp for free and get timed-out.
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: It is funny that everyone goes around the one champion that is extremely op and has seen a lot of gameplay top lane. Gangplank{{champion:41}}
He isn't so OP anymore after his nerfs. As of right now, he certainly is eligible. Will he get it.....tough to say.
: "Where Icathia Once Stood" is amazing
You ever read the Weakest Heart (Camille's color story)? In my opinion *THAT* is the best story Riot has released thus far.
: You have good instincts - I absolutely cannot answer that :-P
Well.......unbeknownst to you, I actually wanted that answer. :D If that Ascended was Setaka, and her story has already been explained through Bloodlines and only confirmed here......why not answer that? Considering what the Void does to those exposed (as seen as how the vulture ascended died), it would stand to reason that if Nasus had supposedly buried would he know *for sure* that he buried her? Not to mention her "death" in the story is quite vague. I know you won't respond to this.....but I'd just like to say I look forward to our first Void infested Ascended champ.
: It's a long time ago, for sure. Best guess is it's maybe even before the Rune Wars and any conflict with the darkin.'s another question that you may or may not be able to answer...... Is the General Ascended mentioned in the story Setaka?
cerbari (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Paleo Electro,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cjjaXw5y,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-03-02T20:34:30.245+0000) > > Where was this mentioned? I don't remember Nasus getting updated. Only story I remember is that one quick clash that Xerath and Nasus had while Taliyah treated Sivir. ''quick'' that Story was super Long xD and there he talks to sivir about how the blade belonged to his friend setaka. just go to universe > regions > shurima > bloodlines and STRG f ''setaka''
Well, yes, the story was long, but I meant quick as in they fought for less than an hour.
cerbari (EUW)
: This ascended General was prob Setaka, the golden warrior queen that died during the doom of icathia and who was a Close friend of Nasus. He burried her with her weapon, which was later retrieved by Sivir. The only odd Thing is, how on earth Nasus managed to get her body, thats a Story i want to hear :D
Where was this mentioned? I don't remember Nasus getting updated. Only story I remember is that one quick clash that Xerath and Nasus had while Taliyah treated Sivir.
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Reav3 (NA)
: Correct. This is why Kai'Sa hasn't gone completely insane as well. She isn't actually "IN" the void, she lives in the caves beneath the ground where the void fissures exist that pour out void beings. When she uses her R (Or when Kassadins uses his R) They momentarily go through the void in order to blink or warp very quickly. This is why Kai'Sa's helmet turns on when she uses her R, because she is traveling momentarily though the actual insane void, and she needs to be fully covered by her suit in order to do that.
Can I ask how far back the fall of Icathia is? Shurima still stands, obviously, so, it is before Xerath's sabotage. But my question far before Xerath is Icathia? There was no mention of Nasus or Renekton.....and if I recall, they were already centuries old come Azir and Xerath. So, I'm guessing that it is *LONG* before Xerath......we're talking a thousand years or more.
SatomiKun (EUW)
: You put GP doubled in the 8 skins category. ^^ Seeing {{champion:127}} {{champion:83}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:68}} {{champion:154}} In the 3 skin category breaks my heart, they are pretty old already and still don't have many skins.... I understand the "not popular" argument, but {{champion:36}} has 9 and is he that popular? And please give my beloved blade leg lady something. {{champion:164}} {{sticker:sg-janna}}
He isn't popular now, but back in the day, he was pretty up there.
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