: How did Ekko avoid nerfs this patch?
They have to overtune certain demographics of champions to force diversity down our collective throats.
vSoWalker (EUNE)
: Getting bad players and carrying every gaming (getting sick of it)
Atleast you can carry them. I have a bad habit of maining low impact champions that cant carry against all these meta-god champions.
GankLord (NA)
: Maokai's ult is trash
Maokai is pretty terrible. Theres no way to justify playing him.
Get2 (NA)
: The Results are In!
LoL matchmaking and ranking system is a joke. Save yourself the stress, play normals. The rewards for playing ranked are entirely pointless anyways.
: First off, Is this a typo? > The counterplay to Zhonyas is that Zhonyas is the only thing keeping you alive in the first place. For the rest, You can make an argument for almost everything to try and and make a broken item sound fair. For example: +65 damage +18 lethality 10% cdr Active: Champion becomes untargetable and invulnerable, reverting back to where they were 5 seconds ago. The counterplay to this is that almost every Mage in the game has hard CC, which they can easily used on an assassin to lock them down if they dive in for an easy kill because of how squishy assassins are. Mages need to be more careful about how they use their hard CC. "Is it worth using my hard CC on this bruiser when there is an assassin in the game and we can't see them?" -probably not. You're prob gonna die for wasting your hard CC. The Xerath example is such a horrible example. In almost every teamfight, Xerath isn't just going to sit there away from everyone else and hide. He is going to be with his team and fighting. Even if he decides to ult, knowing there is an assassin that is hidden, and his entire enemy team ditches him, an assassin being able to easily kill him should be normal. This is only one champion in the game as well. What is an assassin's job if they can't even kill a squishy? >All Zhonyas does is prevent you from going in and doing whatever you want, and getting a kill even when you made a incredibly stupid/greedy play. Which assassin in the game can jump in, get a kill, and just get out? I can't think of any assassin that can dive in, be able to one shot someone, and get away. Maybe Zed? Even if this is true; a zed main would need to let me know, I don't think an item should be added to the game just because one champion exists. If an assassin is able to do this, their kits should be reevaluated and changed because it would be too strong.
> [{quoted}](name=Blue Shift,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fQ2drbWJ,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-21T14:35:49.602+0000) > > First off, Is this a typo? > > For the rest, > > You can make an argument for almost everything to try and and make a broken item sound fair. For example: > > +65 damage > +18 lethality > 10% cdr > Active: Champion becomes untargetable and invulnerable, reverting back to where they were 5 seconds ago. > > The counterplay to this is that almost every Mage in the game has hard CC, which they can easily used on an assassin to lock them down if they dive in for an easy kill because of how squishy assassins are. Mages need to be more careful about how they use their hard CC. > "Is it worth using my hard CC on this bruiser when there is an assassin in the game and we can't see them?" -probably not. You're prob gonna die for wasting your hard CC. > > The Xerath example is such a horrible example. In almost every teamfight, Xerath isn't just going to sit there away from everyone else and hide. He is going to be with his team and fighting. Even if he decides to ult, knowing there is an assassin that is hidden, and his entire enemy team ditches him, an assassin being able to easily kill him should be normal. This is only one champion in the game as well. What is an assassin's job if they can't even kill a squishy? > > Which assassin in the game can jump in, get a kill, and just get out? > > I can't think of any assassin that can dive in, be able to one shot someone, and get away. > > Maybe Zed? > > Even if this is true; a zed main would need to let me know, I don't think an item should be added to the game just because one champion exists. If an assassin is able to do this, their kits should be reevaluated and changed because it would be too strong. Zed, Talon, Akali, LB to a lesser extent, Qiyana, Nocturne(atleast trade 1 for 1 even off of a stupid play that shouldnt reward a kill), Khazix, and so on.
: >You had literally no damage ***synergies*** in that. I will correct myself, though, with this new information. You had precisely one damage synergy - t1 Imperial. If they had a shitton of Zephyrs, though, you were fucked, because the buff would either be useless on Darius or it'd be on the knocked-up Draven. Dude. All you had to do was swap Darius for Mordekaiser and pick up a Kindred instead of Draven. That'd give you phantoms (which, as you hopefully know, basically instakills an enemy) and rangers (AS buff for Vayne). You could also have used an Ashe instead of a Draven, which would have given you rangers and t1 Glacials, *and* would have given you another damage-oriented unit. You could then have used Poppy instead of Darius/Mordekaiser, and Poppy's a much better unit than either of those two. Also, swordbreaker is something you should have put on Lucian, not Kayle, and the Knight's Vow should have gone on Fiora, not Lucian, because Fiora's a frontliner and needs the defense more. And 3 zephyrs isn't going to do you much good, you just have too many at that point. You could have made a Warmog's and a Dragon's Claw instead, and that's arguably much better.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=I39sjbLA,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-21T14:45:05.622+0000) > > I will correct myself, though, with this new information. You had precisely one damage synergy - t1 Imperial. If they had a shitton of Zephyrs, though, you were fucked, because the buff would either be useless on Darius or it'd be on the knocked-up Draven. > > Dude. All you had to do was swap Darius for Mordekaiser and pick up a Kindred instead of Draven. That'd give you phantoms (which, as you hopefully know, basically instakills an enemy) and rangers (AS buff for Vayne). You could also have used an Ashe instead of a Draven, which would have given you rangers and t1 Glacials, *and* would have given you another damage-oriented unit. You could then have used Poppy instead of Darius/Mordekaiser, and Poppy's a much better unit than either of those two. > > Also, swordbreaker is something you should have put on Lucian, not Kayle, and the Knight's Vow should have gone on Fiora, not Lucian, because Fiora's a frontliner and needs the defense more. And 3 zephyrs isn't going to do you much good, you just have too many at that point. You could have made a Warmog's and a Dragon's Claw instead, and that's arguably much better. two of them were literally premade item drops, lol.
: You had literally no damage synergies in that. Full knights/nobles is a lot of durability, but it's also basically no damage. Unless you 3* Vayne and stack a Rageblade, GA, and Bloodthirster on her, you have no way to actually win fights. The most you'll be able to do is force draws. They had Wilds and Gunslingers - offensive synergies - And bruisers - a defensive synergy. You had nothing but defense. If you brought 5 tanks into SR, you'd most likely lose because you have no actual damage. Same concept applies here. You needed to work in at least a ranger or gunslinger buff.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=I39sjbLA,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-10-21T14:17:47.402+0000) > > You had literally no damage synergies in that. > > Full knights/nobles is a lot of durability, but it's also basically no damage. Unless you 3* Vayne and stack a Rageblade, GA, and Bloodthirster on her, you have no way to actually win fights. The most you'll be able to do is force draws. > > They had Wilds and Gunslingers - offensive synergies - And bruisers - a defensive synergy. You had nothing but defense. > > If you brought 5 tanks into SR, you'd most likely lose because you have no actual damage. Same concept applies here. You needed to work in at least a ranger or gunslinger buff. 3* Garen- Zephyr 2* Darius- Zephyr 2* Sejuani- Zephyr 2* Kayle- Spear of Shojin+Disarm 2* Lucian-Knight spautla 2* Vayne-Nothing 2* Leona-Knight Spatula 2* Fiora-Nothing 2* Draven-GA.(Tried to get Draven to carry my dps, abundance of Zephyrs made that difficult) i could have Blademastered kayle, Vayne, or Lucian and went 4/6 Knight 3/9 Blade master 6/6 Noble, 2/4 Imperial. But it just didnt seem like the right choice since i wasnt getting any items for my Draven and it was at a point in the game where items werent going to be in my future.
: in my opinion...
Well heres an example, i have a 6/6 Knights, 6/6 Noble comp.(all 2star) (3star Garen) But no relevant items to support it besides Knight Spatulas. guy has a 2star Jinx with 2 Giant Slayers and a RFC. 2/4 Gunslinger. 4/6 Bruiser. 4/4 Wild i get steamrolled. By one unit. That my comp is supposed to counter. Because of item RNG.
: How good for you! You finally admitted you have absolutely no idea how TFT works!
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=I39sjbLA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-21T13:48:48.862+0000) > > How good for you! You finally admitted you have absolutely no idea how TFT works! hmm might have to clarify.
: Poor mage defensive itemization with armor is a problem and I won't deny that. For some reason almost all mage items give health. I think if they started removing all the health stats on items like morellos, liandrys, rylais, etc... and started giving actual defensive options, we could go from there, but as it is right now, Zhonyas is incredibly broken with no counterplay to it for assassins.
> [{quoted}](name=Blue Shift,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fQ2drbWJ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-21T13:37:04.543+0000) > > Poor mage defensive itemization with armor is a problem and I won't deny that. For some reason almost all mage items give health. I think if they started removing all the health stats on items like morellos, liandrys, rylais, etc... and started giving actual defensive options, we could go from there, but as it is right now, Zhonyas is incredibly broken with no counterplay to it for assassins. The counterplay to Zhonyas is that Zhonyas is the only thing keeping you alive in the first place. As soon as you use it, youre a sitting duck with no way to defend yourself. All Zhonyas does, is force Assassins to be more reserved when they go in to delete a target. *is it worth it to burst Xerath and force his Zhonyas while he has 2 friends nearby?" -probably not. Youre prob gonna die for nothing but a Zhonyas cooldown. *is it worth it to pop Xeraths Zhonyas mid teamfight where he is ulting from the back, and is going to be isolated for atleast 2seconds?* -yes. You stop Xerath from being artillery, You force him to use the only CD keeping him alive, and you force the rest of the enemy team to peel back to his aid, while u just slip away. All Zhonyas does is prevent you from going in and doing whatever you want, and getting a kill even when you made a incredibly stupid/greedy play. Which is something assassins are notorious for getting away with before the completion of Zhonyas/GA/PD. If youre against Zhonyas because it has "no counterplay". Why arent you against assassins diving in to 1v4 scenarios, getting a kill, and then getting away? That is the epitome of no counterplay.
Rioter Comments
: Counterplay to Zhonyas
As a Nocturne OTP, i hate Zhonyas, GA, and any anti-assassin item in the game.... but assassins would be overpowered if Zhonyas and GA didnt exist. We have free-reign for the first half of the game. After that, they finish their stopwatch items, and we have to actually think about what we do.
: Riot should just remove Jax from the game while they're at it.
> [{quoted}](name=GladysmTcO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oV0OdbWB,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-21T07:02:32.883+0000) > > Riot should just remove Jax from the game while they're at it. i would enjoy that very much. Why one champion is allowed to be a... Godtier assassin. Godtier tank. Godtier duelist. Godtier hypercarry. Godtier tank buster. Godtier tower buster. and have S tier mobility. All by building Trinity Force or Spear. is beyond my comprehension.
: I'm pretty sure Garen would wreck him too. Whenever I play against a Nocturn jungle as Garen, even pre-rework, it always seemed like I could easily sustain through his burst and basically one shot him. I'm pretty sure top would be a similar story.
> [{quoted}](name=ThisName1sDumb,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U7dl044P,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-10-21T03:17:56.420+0000) > > I'm pretty sure Garen would wreck him too. Whenever I play against a Nocturn jungle as Garen, even pre-rework, it always seemed like I could easily sustain through his burst and basically one shot him. I'm pretty sure top would be a similar story. nah, spellshield the Q, latch Garen with E. Trade with him until about .25 seconds before your fear wears off. Back off. Umbrablade the wave. rinse and repeat. Garen will be forced to sit on his tower dodging Nocturne Q's until his jungler applies some pressure. Rush BotrK for sustained dps rather than burst. Go typical Lethality items afterwards(as long as it makes sense too). Garen isnt a problem, unless he somehow gets fed.
: Recommended jungler anyone?
Kha'Zix. Leesin Thats about it. i cant think of any other jungler that has impact when his laners are losing. Every other jungler is kinda just rolling the dice hoping he can play off of winning, or equaled lanes. But as we all know, normally our laners are trash and undependable. Lee is the strongest solo que jungler because he can impact a losing lane with how mobile and strong he is in the early game. There are other junglers who are great if youre group queing, but in solo que when u cant depend on anyone, Leesin is really the only option if you want to have any control on whether u win or lose.
: Who else felt like their anger was raging when getting bad teams.
play TFT. ironically its less RNG based than SR. Lol.
mihail1000 (EUNE)
: How do i play with unlocked camera
just play like 20 bot games and get the hang of it. or ARAM.
mihail1000 (EUNE)
: How do i play with unlocked camera
i cant imagine playing with a locked screen lol. Everytime i accidentally lock my screen and for a few seconds cant remember how to unlock it, i have a mini panic attack because that crap is so handicapping.
Kai Guy (NA)
: You should talk to the other OTP {{champion:56}} guy in this thread.
> [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e7Np2vAd,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-10-18T19:12:48.253+0000) > > You should talk to the other OTP {{champion:56}} guy in this thread. eh i agree with him. Once you get into high plat/low diamond 1tricking doesnt become a viable means to push further. Unless youre 1tricking a godtier champion or a bot/support lane champion.
: I'm pretty sure that Lee and Blitz won't be getting off multiple knockups at once. Naut probably won't be either.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sY6salnE,comment-id=0001000000010001,timestamp=2019-10-18T13:56:54.797+0000) > > I'm pretty sure that Lee and Blitz won't be getting off multiple knockups at once. Naut probably won't be either. it doesnt matter. They are still giving Yasuo FREE, GUARENTEED ult targets. Which is completely stupid. Yasuo is too strong of a champion to be handed free ultimates off of actions that arent even his own. Oh Nautilus point and click pressed R on our ADC. RIP Jinx, Yasuo is about to instantly murder you and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Yasuo didnt do anything to deserve to 1shot the ADC like that, he simply existed and rode another players kit into a completely skill-less kill on a skillbased champion.
: Maybe remove the Knockback and Pull Synergies and apply it only to Knock Ups?
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Knight,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sY6salnE,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-10-18T13:01:54.818+0000) > > Maybe remove the Knockback and Pull Synergies and apply it only to Knock Ups? id be cool with that. thats reasonable.
: I can think of about a half dozen things his ult triggers off of that give him multiple targets on his ult besides his tornados. Cho knock up Vel knock up Ori Ult Malph Ult Ali Ult I think Gragas Ult What else gives him multiple targets?
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Knight,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sY6salnE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-18T12:27:30.237+0000) > > I can think of about a half dozen things his ult triggers off of that give him multiple targets on his ult besides his tornados. > > Cho knock up > Vel knock up > Ori Ult > Malph Ult > Ali Ult I think > Gragas Ult > > What else gives him multiple targets? Wukong, Naut, Syndra, Blitz, Riven, Mordekaiser, Lee, and many more. There are honestly more champs in the game that trigger Yasuos ult, than there arent. I think thats a problem, hes SO reliable because of it. It removes nearly all of the skill expression from a skill expression champion.
: How to make Yasuo Banned LESS
My only gripe with Yasuo is his Ultimate triggers off of too many things. Hes a strong champion on his own, but having any of these ult enabling champions on his team make him overloaded and too reliable. He should only be able to ult off of his own Tornados. If you need to compensate buff him with a CD reduction on his ult, fine do it.
: [Idea] - Add a Teleporter between Top/Bot lane.
Thats actually a great idea. Might not work out so great, but its something that i genuinely think should be tested.
BradBen (NA)
: How the hell do i counter Master YI
There isnt really a direct way to counter Yi himself. His biggest weakness is overconfidence. In games with Yi, generally all the kill gold is funneled to Yi, and he becomes the only relevant player on the team. If he messes up, its likely that it will cost him and his team the game while they wait for him to rez.
Theorex (NA)
: Champion with 54% win rate 26% play rate. Everyone considers weak.
Ashe jungle?....seems like something that would get oppressed by nearly any meta jungler.
: Now that we have split-pushing attack speed assasins can we get tank and vision items?
Kai Guy (NA)
: OTP's are weaker players then their peers
as a OTP, im only afriad of one counter matchup. My Nocturne Top vs Renekton. And i have fallback options incase i get autofilled or banned, i just prefer to play my OTP(Its really the only thing i enjoy playing).
Juice (EUNE)
: What a nicely designed champion
Atleast i can avoid her. Unlike the Renekton that will just 1shot me at will.
: how to play in a game your champion isn't suited for?
Split push, build defensive, or both. Dont look for plays, look to take advantage of misplays.
: Sick of this shit
Glacial is pretty weak in comparison to..well, everything besides Noble.
: Gnar Kennen Vayne and Vlad all beat him statistically. Then you have Shen, Olaf and Kled who absolutely decimate him statistically for pretty clear reasons. But hey if itโ€™s working so far keep going.
> [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleepier,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U7dl044P,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-10-15T09:46:03.514+0000) > > Gnar Kennen Vayne and Vlad all beat him statistically. > > Then you have Shen, Olaf and Kled who absolutely decimate him statistically for pretty clear reasons. > > But hey if itโ€™s working so far keep going. Just Olaf really, so rare that i see him tho. Vlad- hard no. Kled-no Shen feels fair but doesnt stop me from farming or roaming. If he ults, he loses his tower. Vayne feels fair but doesnt stop me from farming or roaming Gnar is just annoying.
: Adding dash stopping mechanic to Xerath E
Xerath is alrdy an incredibly strong champion..
: Ranged. Champions.
> [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleepier,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U7dl044P,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-14T19:00:00.218+0000) > > Ranged. Champions. ranged champions dont bother him at all.
Jaspers (EUW)
: I'll give it a go sometime. What are we building? Lethality or getting a TF and Ravenous in there? I've had more success with alternate tanks (Leona, Nunu/Willump) top than AD assassins in the past but willing to try it. Trying to get back into play SR (after playing ARAM all season) so will be a nice change.
> [{quoted}](name=Jaspers,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U7dl044P,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-14T14:30:53.214+0000) > > I'll give it a go sometime. What are we building? Lethality or getting a TF and Ravenous in there? > > I've had more success with alternate tanks (Leona, Nunu/Willump) top than AD assassins in the past but willing to try it. Trying to get back into play SR (after playing ARAM all season) so will be a nice change. Generally going for a 3 lethality item build.(Lethal Tempo+Biscuits/Timewarp Tonic) But, sometimes BotRK is a priority item.(Example: Nocturne vs Darius, you'll want to rush BotRK, or at the very least the cutlass) And sometimes being an assassin isnt useful against your enemies team composition, so you can go a bruiser build. But, USUALLY 3x Lethality items. He works better than other assassins, since hes sort of cross between a Fighter and an Assassin, and is flexible enough to have the option of being a Fighter+Bruiser instead, and in lane he's a better drain tank than pre-rework Aatrox. Which is something other assassins lack and is predominantly what keeps them out of the top lane(sustain).
Rioter Comments
: I mean, I placed 3rd overall damage(30.4k, only about 1k behind 2nd place) one game while playing full tank Ornn. I feel like I shouldn't be able to do that under any circumstances. I actually find myself carrying more when I build full tank on tank champions.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uMdV9EHO,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-10-14T12:30:37.246+0000) > > I mean, I placed 3rd overall damage(30.4k, only about 1k behind 2nd place) one game while playing full tank Ornn. I feel like I shouldn't be able to do that under any circumstances. > > I actually find myself carrying more when I build full tank on tank champions. damage isnt always relevant damage. Keep that in mind.
: Lethality build has NO real tradeoffs.
Assassins have a cheaper build path so that they are stronger in the early game, since Zhonyas, GA, and PD negate their role, they need the early item/gold advantage to justify being played.
Jbels (NA)
: Can we please have role protection against remakes?
NO. You will sit through 20mins of dodges to enjoy a 4minute remake, only to sit through another 20mins of dodges until you get autofilled. Because our Rioteer overlords say so.
Keiaga (NA)
: Would your mains for each role make a decent team?
{{champion:56}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:29}} Nope gonna have like a 20% win rate. Just off of pure luck.
lluxxdot (EUW)
: How are you meant to climb when everyone feeds
play a meta carry champion. Otherwise you are opting to ride your teamates into a loss or a win.
Barso55 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=PhearBunny,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=19MNTtu4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-11T14:33:57.092+0000) > > Try Nocturne top. > Lethal Tempo/Biscuits+Timewarp Tonic. > Corruption Potion. > TP+Flash. > > There are a few low key off-meta top lane picks that are very strong. I do like nocturne top, but hes on the list of unviable against these champs. Every one of them shit on him, except those with important moves like renekton W which can be spell shielded. Can spell shield darius and garen R, its true, but the combination of innate tankiness and damage both of them have, and things like bleed, innate sustain, etc, make it so that he will probably die in a straight up 1v1 even if 2 kills ahead from early game cheese. Not to mention hes better jg or mid due to only being able to ult mid or his own lane if hes being played top.
> [{quoted}](name=Barso55,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=19MNTtu4,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-11T15:44:52.215+0000) > > I do like nocturne top, but hes on the list of unviable against these champs. > > Every one of them shit on him, except those with important moves like renekton W which can be spell shielded. Can spell shield darius and garen R, its true, but the combination of innate tankiness and damage both of them have, and things like bleed, innate sustain, etc, make it so that he will probably die in a straight up 1v1 even if 2 kills ahead from early game cheese. Not to mention hes better jg or mid due to only being able to ult mid or his own lane if hes being played top. the only top lane champions Nocturne outright loses too, are Renekton and Tryndamere. Illaoi, Garen, and Darius are no problem.
Jamaree (NA)
: They all have counterplay, just isn't as simple as do X, or do Y anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J5Q7q6YX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-11T06:29:56.479+0000) > > They all have counterplay, just isn't as simple as do X, or do Y anymore. what is Kai'sas counerplay?
McDodger (NA)
: Tahm Kench and Maokai are like NonExsistant....
i miss seeing Maokai, but Tahm has a cancerous kit that LoL is more enjoyable without.
Barso55 (NA)
: Impossible to pick off-meta top laners
Try Nocturne top. Lethal Tempo/Biscuits+Timewarp Tonic. Corruption Potion. TP+Flash. There are a few low key off-meta top lane picks that are very strong.
StonMon (NA)
: Best champ to one trick?
whichever champion you like most. The main thing deciding your performance, is gonna be whether you enjoy the champion youre playing and if that champions playstyle resonates with you or not.
: Can We Please Rework Nocturne?
Nocturnes R has a boat load of counter play. Stop watch. Dash/flash its damage. Movespeed bonus+run away(There is a move speed threshold that avoids Nocts ult damage, unless youre running towards Nocturne) A cloth armor or ruby crystal wont let him come even close to 1shotting you unless he is extremely fed. Nocturne is the lowest burst damage assassin in the game, he shouldnt be 1shotting you unless youre low or hes obscenly ahead.
DIV1D3 (OCE)
: How has dyslexia got anything to do with the new design? It looks fine (imo it looks neither better or worse than the previous design), and you only need the one launcher to log into any region (including PBE). What??????????
> [{quoted}](name=DIV1D3,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oG4sgsi6,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-10-09T14:25:53.123+0000) > > How has dyslexia got anything to do with the new design? > It looks fine (imo it looks neither better or worse than the previous design), and you only need the one launcher to log into any region (including PBE). > > What?????????? its backwards!
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: Kassadin Support?
i feel like youd just be opting to play a worse version of Leona. theres no way Kassadin support can work well, he requires gold to function, and doesnt bring any good tools to the lane phase to get him that gold. if you wanna offmeta him, do it in the jungle where he cant negatively impact a lane, and is still relatively free to farm.
Juice (EUNE)
: Nocturne will go oom after 2 spell rotations Nocturne will be unable to freeze due to his passive Nocturne has no escapes Noc will get dominated by anything with range longer than his nose So yeah Noc will work in silver, but then again, everything works in silver
> [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=80x5LodT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-09T11:51:01.563+0000) > > Nocturne will go oom after 2 spell rotations > > Nocturne will be unable to freeze due to his passive > > Nocturne has no escapes > > Noc will get dominated by anything with range longer than his nose > > So yeah Noc will work in silver, but then again, everything works in silver Corrupting potion+Biscuits+Time Warp tonic lasts you to lvl6. -Yes he cant freeze, not well at least. -No he doesn't get dominated by ranged champs. Aim your Q to hit as many minions as possible+poke, run at ranged champ, mid way, Umbrablades the wave(He has to run from you if u tag him with Q, which allows you a window to CS) Umbrablades also recovers you from any poke you did take, assuming you position yourself to maximize its healing. -Land a fear, spell shield a CC, Q trail. He can escape lots of top+jungle combos, but sure, there are a few he cant, just like 90% of melee top laners. -after hundreds of plat+ games, Renekton is his only glaring weakness. Since Renekton is essentially the same thing, without mana limitations and tower diving potential. Whereas Nocturne has more roaming/jungle protection potential.
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