: A few things from this low-bronze support main. 1. If they remove autofill, everyone's going to be here crying about queue lengths. 2. I wish they'd make autofill suck more so that people knew what it was like to be a real support - if only to give us credit. E.g. you can only buy boots and gold income items until you've purchased SS/equivalent. 3. I'm telling you I main support, have supports up the wazu (only missing Tahm) and routinely give my team/adc the option of "do you want a tank or mage" based on the enemies comp. (i.e. if I have flexibility to pick, i'll give you a choice in the type). Here's what I get for it: a. Do you have [CHAMP X] b. "no, don't play them, they suck, play [champ i hate playing] c. "no dude, jinx NEEDS [support I don't like] The issue here is this. Support's often seen as the weakest link (esp. when they're a SS-free Brand taking your kills) and I'm here telling you I do this all day. My nautilus has a +50% win rate, my Zilean is strong, and my Braum owns team fights. And yet - _and yet_ - I have moron ADCs telling me what I need to do to win. They don't know, they throw tantrums, and they cost matches. So frankly I'm glad people are forced to blow an hour of their lives doing something they hate. It's karmic retribution for the suffering you put on others.
Pale Pirate (EUNE)
: > He is literally the only one who can get in, kill, and get out with blinks. lol {{champion:7}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:105}}
Kat is the only one of those champs that has the potential to get in and out with a blink. Ekko can get in with a blink and LB can get out with a blink.
: Ergo, assassins should be feast or famine. So yes, I agree, not as much with Leblanc as I do with Shaco since I honestly believe Leblanc has too much mobility to be considered risky, Shaco has his mobility tied to his decieve and thus far clearer windows of weakness, than Leblanc who can chain dashes and dash resets. Why Riot ever got the idea to make assassins safe, or packed with utility is beyond me, the idea itself is fundamentally flawed and has created balancing nightmares out of this world all for the sake of a playstyle that just doesn't make any fucking sense. {{champion:105}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:238}}
I think zed's problem is his reliability. It doesn't matter how poorly he's done, he can one shot the adc. Okay... fine he can one shot the adc, but then he can also just instantly blink out of the middle of your team. Without his ult, he isn't that much of a threat, but the fact that he can so reliably remove the main damage source of the opposing team is very frustrating to play against. Not to mention his early game strength.
gatchi (NA)
: wtf these annie changes
I played against a couple annies today, and my first impression is that the bear still does too much on cast. I'd like to see even more power loaded into tibbers post cast. The new indicator for her passive is a godsend to play against.
: That true damage thing is a known bug that is the damage you took in blob form nothing else.
>Just going to re-clarify here; this damage was taken UPON LANDING. My passive revive was on cooldown at the time as a large team-fight had occurred a minute or-so beforehand. Zac's passive revive had no part in this sequence of events.
: You should also check the mage item changes going through at the same time...
They are pretty much removing mana regen except on athenes
Quepha (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrobolser,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=32MZhooT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-04-12T15:22:28.001+0000) > > An item that makes you take less damage, gives you the opportunity to play around the high burst high mobility kit of an assassin and punish them with a well aimed skillshot or spell combo. > It is sad that you need defensive items as a damage dealer, but the meta assassin/tank is like that. That's not winning through skill, that's winning because you have bigger numbers than the opponent.
Which you most likely acquired by being more skillful up to that point. You don't just magically get bigger numbers.
Dextix LT (EUNE)
: {{champion:96}} You were sayin something?
Rebonack (NA)
: The counter to %HP true damage is, ostensibly, to kill the target faster. Unfortunately, all the champions with %HP true damage have tools in their kit to prevent you from killing them faster.
>Unfortunately, all the champions with %HP true damage have tools in their kit to prevent you from killing them faster. The problem is that without those tools, those champions would be useless. %Max HP true damage is just bad to design a champ around.
: Kalista's E Completely Blows Twitch's E Out of the Water
Twitch Q blows Kalista's Q completely out of the water. What's the point?
The Fast (NA)
: Is no one gonna mention the fact that the Xin nerf was reverted the exact next patch?
>ap xin would be brutal with devourer The ol' placebo nerf
: > [{quoted}](name=KillerMan2219,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=ypoM4s7A,comment-id=0004000000010000,timestamp=2015-08-16T19:00:26.574+0000) > > Funny thing, not sure if unrelated or not but both riven's and vaynes pick rates dropped ~3% the same patch that the anti-toxicity ban waves rolled out. Just something to consider What are you talking about? I got actually curious and took a look at the development of Rivens playrate (see: http://champion.gg/champion/Riven) but actually.. The 3% part is true. However it ROSE 3% instead of dropping. What does that mean? You tell me.
: Petition to give Graves an E-Cig
Gangplank flayed a man alive. I think graves can have a cigar lol
: It sounds like an excuse to me. And we all know how Riot feels about telling the truth, so...
I always assumed this to be the case. It isn't that they don't want to, it's that they can't figure out how to.
: When they capture the crystal, it gives a temporary burst of vision, think like ashe E, its not permanent.
No, it lasts until the other team captures the 'crystal' away.
Age09 (EUNE)
: Option to switch places of items in inventory of our champion in the shop menu
HUD update team claimed that it wasn't possible to do for them. I wouldn't expect it any time soon.
gaby1best (EUNE)
: Oh, so playing with a support to protect your ass is not nice.
When you get to challenger playing melee champs bot, let us know.
: You must not have played during S1. There was a period of time where Morde was basically unkillable and would wade into teams 1v5 and take them out without a problem. He's changed a lot since then, and it's a very good thing, since he was very oppressive back then.
Morde has never been good competitively. Especially in early seasons when CC was a luxury.
: Twitch can too but I was referring to base range without taking into account abilities, mostly because they have cooldowns and can't be used reliably or in Jinx's case they don't allow use of her massive AS steroid, the only thing that makes her an amazing ADC.
>only thing that makes her an amazing ADC uhh, wut? AoE auto attacks are a pretty nice thing to have on a adc with ~700 range.
Anaspida (EUW)
: You should go on wikipedia or something, because that's wrong.
You should listen to your own advice.
: I haven't put the games in to see how it plays out for myself, but there are some reasons to take smite on him: * {{item:3724}} will still help your waveclear, if for no other reason than the smite is AoE. * {{item:3724}} is cheaper than {{item:3100}} by 750g * {{item:3724}} gives 10% CDR at the cost of some damage. Getting off an extra Q, W or E could mean the difference between dying when caught out and getting a kill, and getting it so early is really tempting. * {{summoner:11}} you have the ability to secure objectives if your Jungler is dead or unavailable to help. This will vary game to game on how helpful it is. * Nothing prevents you from selling it later and getting {{item:3100}} for more damage. Like I said, I haven't had time to try it, but I'm pretty sure there are people continuing to use it for these reasons. I'm sure there are people who didn't read the patch notes too, but I bet for a patch or two at least we'll see informed players trying to find out which AP Ezreal Sheen item they like best.
LankPants (OCE)
: Her damage did get a buff. Her spiders now deal 10/20/30/40+(0.15xAP) magic damage up from 10/20/30/40+(0.10xAP) physical damage. Obviously the higher ratio is a straight buff but it's also better for Elise now that her spiders deal magic damage since you itemise for M/Pen and most champs and all jungle camps will have more armour than MR in most situations.
But the real buff is that E is a one point wonder. 1.6 second long range stun, means you can max QW for the extra damage, while still having the same utility.
ponkzy (NA)
: depends on how good of an ezreal player you are. AP ez is still pretty damn good. most of the people who sucked on him when he was broken (aka 90% of people) will probably still play him sparingly
But there is literally no reason to take smite on ez mid anymore. Want the sheen proc? Buy lich or tri force.
: "Let's restrict toxic people from playing ranked and make them do normals for a bit"
Meddler (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=ThatAtheist,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4WYXNnG3,comment-id=0002000200000000,timestamp=2015-07-20T03:48:22.839+0000) > > But that is why you guys said after the DFG removal and yet he is still only playable as full AP... We did have a go at a similar approach when we were removing DFG. At that time however we only had a very brief period (one patch's worth of development) to investigate and test changes. That wasn't enough time to fix the issues we saw come up, or even investigate a decent range of approaches. We weren't confident in the results of that work as a result, so ended up pulling almost all of it. This time we're putting a solid amount of time aside for both experimentation and testing, so feel it's worth taking another swing at that direction.
When you guys make changes like removing DFG, how come you don't go through all the testing and what not you need to do for champions that use DFG, and then make sure the game is balanced without dfg? Why do you only fix one fan favorite, in Ahri, and leave every other DFG user in hell until months later?
: Early Morning Weekend Ranked Team [Silver + ]
IGN: PoisonedPeace Rank: S3(was S1 but went on a bit of a cold streak) Lane:ADC/Supp Mic: Yes Time: Good Contact: League
: What's the point of Orianna's passive?
No real diamond would tell you to not auto attack with orianna. Her passive is amazing for trading in lane.
: [Advice] Keep your expectations low when it comes to the lore reworks...
I'm pretty much expecting nothing. I've never seen any company spend over a year on "tech issues" involving text on a webpage. They'll probably give us a pretty general format with the same dark and mysterious lore.
: Team Builder is >=Lv 25 only. It's complete bullshit. Rito said they were going to make it go back to Level 10 and over or whatever they had before, but it hasn't happened after a month or two.
I'm not sure how long you've been around, but I think its pretty well known that when Riot says something will happen, it means it will happen within the next 3-5 years
: > If Riot implements team builder for ranked, then they actually have to address the issue of almost no one wanting to support ever. Interesting question for you: Do you think that there's a possibility that when presented with the option of a faster queue time, it would encourage more players to explore the support role in ranked? As a support/jungle main myself, I'm honestly curious as it's something that initially influenced my role selection when Team Builder first came out. As a result, I'm finding an extraordinary amount of pleasure in supporting the hell out of my team :).
I think that it will encourage players to play carry supports that aren't really supports because they just want to get into a ranked game.
: Those aren't lore,those are summaries.They been doing this since the Shurima event last year (Azir's release).They were suppose to be released along with longer lore pieces on the website.But tech issues prevented that from happening.We should be getting some actual lore once the tech issues are dealt with. Based on Jaredan recent comments,it sounds like the tech issues have been dealt with & should be seeing the results once the Bilgewater event gets rolling later this month.
We are still buying "tech issues"? Its been ~year hasn't it? What kind of company takes an entire year to put lore onto a webpage? I always thought this was just a meme making fun of "the technology isn't there"
Dextix LT (EUNE)
: Yo, why is this downvoted? You want to tell me the narrative team cares?
They have been using the same "Technology isn't there" excuse since the ret-con haven't they? If your company can't figure out how to put text in a place where text already was, you probably need new people.
: I've lived in Atlanta, GA for the past 5~ months. This is without a doubt the best internet connection I've had since I started playing this game, and I started Mid S2, while living in California. Maybe ya'll just need to invest in better internet and dont play on WiFi.
Didn't they just recently put that Roadmap thing right in Atlanta? I have lived 3 different places since moving out of my parents. I have switched ISP every single time I've moved, and had the exact same experience.
: > [{quoted}](name=DrNova,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fGLJc4Px,comment-id=000000010004,timestamp=2015-07-08T05:52:49.408+0000) > > Maybe im missing something, but besides trying to get a minion kill with Q, whats different? Maybe I didnt read the notes clearly enough, but i dont see how your choices change at all. > > Please explain? Sure. Let me start with current/live Miss Fortune. On paper it looks like the W active does 2 distinct things: * Increase Attack Speed, and * Apply Grievous Wounds While that's a true summary, you generally want both of those at the exact same time. So there was no decision-making here... you just press W whenever you're auto-ing the enemy for an extended period of time. So really, her W active does only 1 thing: * You duel better for 6 seconds Grievous Wounds isn't a decision, it's just there. Almost invisible power in a lot of cases. Some exceptions of course (looking at you, Volibear!), but the majority of the time you just aren't deciding between "optimal timing for attack speed steroid" and "optimal timing for grievous wounds" - they're the same. With the update, that's no longer the case. There are actually 2 distinct parts now: * Increase Attack Speed, and * Reset passive (which is also better now) And these are indeed 2 unique situations. Sometimes, they'll be competing with one another - in lane, if I activate W to chase/trade, I won't be able to use it to reset my passive when minion aggro knocks it off. But knowing when to use each mode adds a skill element that was really lacking before. What's more, a more skilled MF will find ways to double up (see what I did there?) on the W benefits. Rather than needing to pick one or the other, you can actually have both, if you set up the right situations. Again, more reward for champ skill. Now, just introducing these probably isn't worth it without adding some power elsewhere. But her Q and Passive are also better, and I consider E stronger too (others may disagree here). The Q change is particularly interesting in lane - get good at bouncing, and you can lane bully better than on live. And really, that's what it comes down to for me at least. As somebody who enjoys playing current MF, and considers myself pretty successful with her, I don't often feel that I make good "MF plays". It's more that I make "good ADC plays with MF", so hopefully the extra decision-making and rewards allow me to express my skill better. ----------------------------------------- EDIT: Reminder that these are just my thoughts as a MF player. I'm not on the design team, so please don't take anything I'm saying here to be representative of overall philosophy, or even their intentions. I'm just excited for MF! =)
>With the update, that's no longer the case. There are actually 2 distinct parts now: >Increase Attack Speed, and Reset passive (which is also better now) This is the fucked up part. According to you, they put more power into her kit by giving her decisions to make with her W. The problem with that is her power is strewn over entirely different focuses. You don't care about that movespeed when dueling the other ADC because they can kite just as well as you. Now you have an 'escape' but it is essentially useless and gives you no extra power.
: I hate summer vacation.
My experience with league: * I am nice, teammates are nice * I say nothing, teammates flame each other * I am a jerk, teammates flame everyone
: You people constantly jump down their throat for making kneejerk balance choices. So they said they are going to let the champions sit for a patch to observe the impact, then nerf them.
Literally nothing I said had anything to do with Riot's kneejerk reactions or even accusing Riot of anything in anyway.
Phife (NA)
: Why do you people care, its not like you play ap xin....
Nobody cares that Xin is getting nerfed. People care that a few champs are going to be insanely OP with new items, and those champs haven't been touched. We all know what is going to happen anyway. 1. Rito will make these jungle changes 2. A few champs will be pick or ban OP 3. Rito will slightly nerf both jungle items and op champs 4. Next season Rito will completely change the jungle and jungle items, and leave op champs unchanged 5. Previously OP champs will be trash tier once again
: > [{quoted}](name=YumaS2Astral,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FaeWjEiH,comment-id=00020000000000000001,timestamp=2015-07-02T23:50:23.419+0000) > > Any CC that can interrupt channeled abilities is a hard CC. yeah im tired of being hard cc'd to death by kassadin
If we're going to be pedantic.... he did say "Any *CC*" which would mean the ability in question would have to be CC to begin with, which Kass Q is not.
: Well, July 1st has come and gone, and I don't have a mystery champion. Hmm. I participated in the Pool Party event, I don't have any negative behaviour warnings, and I've been connected to their Facebook thingy since it came out...
Did anyone *really* expect them to be on time though?
: While i'm thinking about this.... Why is it everyone likes to hate on Wither? You never hear about any of the other chain CC slows. What about Nunu's snowball(IceBlast)? Never hear it mentioned, not once.
Because Nunu does nothing but be annoying with Ice Blast. Nasus could actually kill you.
: Meanwhile he has no tank stats except for some armour and is required to get in and stay in melee range to heal that much. And then the ADC crits him once for double the amount he heals. Meanwhile {{champion:8}} heals like crazy, deals AoE damage and is pretty tanky even with full AP build.
Plus with the new WotA, Vlad will just heal his entire health bar with each Q
: won't happen since morello is against that. what we need is someone near certainlyt looking at numbers
> [{quoted}](name=doublelift fg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Tn8BGonQ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-06-28T20:11:08.296+0000) > > won't happen since morello is against that. > > what we need is someone near certainlyt looking at numbers He needs someone to hover over him, and say, "Hey, lets take the passives off his Q, W, and E, and save them for other champions!"
: League Replay Function
They created a replay system. It was on the PBE ~1 year ago. They said the servers wouldn't be able to handle it. If we're ever going to see replays it won't be until long after the server relocation that is happening soon™
: Mornings ranked 5s. Silver.
Alright, Ill add you everyone later
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SZA (NA)
: Creating a SILVER/GOLD Ranked Team
What time would you usually play?
: this may sound rude but not having moveable camera is just plain bad.
Doesn't Doublelift play with locked camera?
: > Is this a sick joke? Frozen Mallet costs more and gives MELEE autoattacks a 40% slow. > > Darius and Jax autoattacking you in melee range deserves the same slow as Kog'Maw spamming his ultimate from 2000 range? How did this idea even become considered? Reread that. Notice the immature and disrespectful tone he is setting? And you wonder why I would respond in such a way? If he wants to illicit an immature and insulting comment to Riot on something that is literally just in speculation and hasn't even been implemented yet then by all means I will reply accordingly. It was never a mature discussion to begin with.
You see, that is the thing about being mature. Even when other people are immature, you remain mature.
: Oh look, someone is complaining about something that doesn't even exist yet. Typical. There always has to be at least 1 of these every time Riot says something. He even took the time to explain how Liandry's isn't supposed to be a tank shredder. It's a health shredder, for those targets with high health and low magic resist. And you really think Rumble's Flamespitter's 4.95% true vamp with WotA (cuz 33% for AoE) is gonna let him leech tank off the enemy tank? Do you really think the 20% slow on it from Rylai's is gonna ruin anyone's day? The answer to both is no. You obviously didn't comprehend what you read before crying to the boards about how OP your inability to read is.
Why can there never be actual mature discussion on here without constantly insulting people?
: Having another Bard is better than having another Ekko.
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