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zoliking (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=PoopyMcPooppile,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1FXagWYV,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-06T22:42:23.268+0000) > > exactly. Janna isn't okay. No playing tourist is not okay. On any champion. > iF yOu CaN. But what if you can't? It'd be an afk laning phase and my point still stands. Like you said, damage is not her job so even if she **can** get out there to poke, the enemy will take advantage and will out-damage and in turn out-trade. You said "get good trades", but Janna is not a trading champion. There is no "free poking", you will only get punished harder. If you trade near your own minons when the enemy walks up the minions will hit them. This is about positioning and being careful, you know support skill. Janna can do this. > Playing Janna, there is no reason for the enemy to play tourist, so your "if" statement is invalid. Someone as squishy as Janna, being in the frontline, will die. An enemy like Brand will be zoning both you and your adc if not you alone, therefore there is no "being able to be in front". Even if in a possible case where the enemy support is playing tourist, someone who can die in 1 second like Janna in the frontline is great for the enemy adc to commit a significant amount of damage to her. it doesn't have to be the enemy support. Yeah, you are agreeing with me. Don't stay in front if it's not safe. > Act in time for what? Of course, if there is a gank I would be moving forward, that's everyone in general, but isn't my job is to disengage fights and therefore am supposed to be laid back? If the enemy gets "there" first, hopefully I can simply disengage the said enemy with my slow and knockup as my adc dashes back and thus the enemy zoning continues and in turn my afk gameplay continues. Act in time to intercept the enemy harrass. Harrassing is not fighting, you can't solve it by disengaging, because there's no engage there in the first place. You have to be there in time to counterharrass and trade back on the enemy walking up. If your ass is just hiding behind the adc, jerking off, you won't be there in time. > Exactly. Damage and engagement is not Janna's job. Her only job seems to be to sit back and be afk and press shield from now and then, otherwise poke and be out-damaged, resulting in afk recalling and getting back into lane. Thank you for further supporting my point. > > Janna is not only an afk gameplay in laning phase, but in late game teamfights as well. When your team engages into a 5v5, playing as Janna makes it a 4v5 in terms of damage, and if she manages to peel her adc, chances are she herself gets 1shotted as there are other enemies who haven't been disengaged. No, like with every support, zoning so your adc can get on their cs is part of Janna's job too. Being a tourist is a troll play against your own team, leaving your adc open to enemy harrass. And that's not on the champion, that's on you.
> [{quoted}](name=zoliking,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1FXagWYV,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-07T00:21:41.560+0000) > > No playing tourist is not okay. On any champion. Certainly there is a circumstance when you have to play tourist, like losing a lane so you play it safe, otherwise you'd be instakilled for even standing next to your adc. For Janna, unless your adc hit it big like first blood, your lane is like a constant losing lane. Her most general playstyle is tourist. > If you trade near your own minons when the enemy walks up the minions will hit them. This is about positioning and being careful, you know support skill. Janna can do this. Similarly to your last response on this column, this "if" scenario is irrelevant since the enemy may simply just outtrade despite the minion damage dealt upon them, and in most cases is invalid since minion aggro may easily be avoided. Indeed this is about positioning and being careful, which is rooted with the afk playstyle of Janna staying behind her adc for most of the laning phase in order to be **positioned** in a *careful** state. > Yeah, you are agreeing with me. Don't stay in front if it's not safe. Yeah, you are agreeing with ME. There is almost never a said safe time to stay in front, hence the afk Janna playstyle. > Act in time to intercept the enemy harrass. Harrassing is not fighting, you can't solve it by disengaging, because there's no engage there in the first place. You have to be there in time to counterharrass and trade back on the enemy walking up. If your ass is just hiding behind the adc, jerking off, you won't be there in time. You misinterpreted the general concept. Harassing is indeed not an engagement or fighting, but it is potent for opening up a fight against you, which is where the word "disengaging" comes into play. And as for counterharassment, being laid back behind your adc and shielding him in case of a harassment is a counterharassment if I'm not mistaken. You are also not considering how an enemy poke may escalate into a fullon chase for being killed, which is terrible if anybody is in front, because not being near a tower means you are more likely to be chased down and be killed. Considering that almost all adcs have mobility abilities, it is better for your adc to be in front of you in case a fullon fight breaks up and your adc may use a mobility ability to escape, while you yourself have 0 mobility abilities, and also considering Janna's passive which allows your adc to escape with faster movement speed if he moves towards you, but this case is only possible if you are behind the adc. > No, like with every support, zoning so your adc can get on their cs is part of Janna's job too. Being a tourist is a troll play against your own team, leaving your adc open to enemy harrass. And that's not on the champion, that's on you. I appreciate your attempt to change my mind, but your counter-arguments appear to be overly general and not considerable about Janna's unique playstyle, despite how you yourself had acknowledged Janna's unique role with your irrelevant "why would you play Janna if" lecture. Indeed Janna is a support like every other labeled support, I do not doubt your overly-generalized reminders about how to play any support better, but there are no arguments that targeted my specific points which leads to the main idea that her playstyle is like being afk. I am not indicating that Janna needs a buff or blaming that I lose a lot of games directly because of Janna's unique gameplay, since I still feel afk after winning an easy victory match, however I can't help but notice how you are fiercely being generalized and avoiding my individual points, avoiding the incentive to make constructive counter remarks, and avoiding the champion itself and rather focus on the player. Most importantly, for you, *is there even an extent at which it is on the champion and not the player himself/herself?*
zoliking (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=PoopyMcPooppile,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1FXagWYV,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-09-06T19:59:17.273+0000) > > sitting behind adc = afk shielding and Q poking This is allowing the enemy to walk up to harrass with impunity. Not okay. > sitting by the adc = get hurt and afk recalling and getting back into lane Not sitting, being up there, harrassing if you can, zoneing off enemy harrass. And yes this involves trading and it's part of the job to get good trades. > being in front of adc = afk death timer, but that W poke was definitely worth Being able to be in front is a function of what the other duo does. If the enemy support is playing tourist it's safe to keep walking up and harrassing the adc, otherwise staying in front is not safe. > "zoning off enemy harrassers and great for disengaging" = standing behind the adc No, if you're behind you can't act in time, the enemy will get there first. > "zoning off enemy harrassers and great for disengaging" = no damage, no hard engagement, and she dies in 1 second. furthermore the enemy can simply reengage especially those that has multiple dashes and other means of mobility Damage is not your job, Janna is not an engage type support, why would you pick her if that's what you are looking for, she dies if you are not careful, and no disengage means that you get yourself and the adc into a safe position where you can't easily be engaged.
> [{quoted}](name=zoliking,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1FXagWYV,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-09-06T20:20:24.106+0000) > > This is allowing the enemy to walk up to harrass with impunity. Not okay. exactly. Janna isn't okay. > Not sitting, being up there, harrassing if you can, zoneing off enemy harrass. And yes this involves trading and it's part of the job to get good trades. iF yOu CaN. But what if you can't? It'd be an afk laning phase and my point still stands. Like you said, damage is not her job so even if she **can** get out there to poke, the enemy will take advantage and will out-damage and in turn out-trade. You said "get good trades", but Janna is not a trading champion. There is no "free poking", you will only get punished harder. > Being able to be in front is a function of what the other duo does. If the enemy support is playing tourist it's safe to keep walking up and harrassing the adc, otherwise staying in front is not safe. Playing Janna, there is no reason for the enemy to play tourist, so your "if" statement is invalid. Someone as squishy as Janna, being in the frontline, will die. An enemy like Brand will be zoning both you and your adc if not you alone, therefore there is no "being able to be in front". Even if in a possible case where the enemy support is playing tourist, someone who can die in 1 second like Janna in the frontline is great for the enemy adc to commit a significant amount of damage to her. it doesn't have to be the enemy support. > No, if you're behind you can't act in time, the enemy will get there first. Act in time for what? Of course, if there is a gank I would be moving forward, that's everyone in general, but isn't my job is to disengage fights and therefore am supposed to be laid back? If the enemy gets "there" first, hopefully I can simply disengage the said enemy with my slow and knockup as my adc dashes back and thus the enemy zoning continues and in turn my afk gameplay continues. > Damage is not your job, Janna is not an engage type support, why would you pick her if that's what you are looking for, she dies if you are not careful, and no disengage means that you get yourself and the adc into a safe position where you can't easily be engaged. Exactly. Damage and engagement is not Janna's job. Her only job seems to be to sit back and be afk and press shield from now and then, otherwise poke and be out-damaged, resulting in afk recalling and getting back into lane. Thank you for further supporting my point. Janna is not only an afk gameplay in laning phase, but in late game teamfights as well. When your team engages into a 5v5, playing as Janna makes it a 4v5 in terms of damage, and if she manages to peel her adc, chances are she herself gets 1shotted as there are other enemies who haven't been disengaged.
zoliking (NA)
: Janna's great when played competently. She's excellent at zoning off enemy harrassers and great for disengaging. If you feel like you are AFK when playing her, they you are probably playing tourist, just sitting behind the adc, making him 1v2 and struggle to get onto his cs. Not cool bro.
> [{quoted}](name=zoliking,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1FXagWYV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-06T07:12:51.422+0000) > > Janna's great when played competently. She's excellent at zoning off enemy harrassers and great for disengaging. If you feel like you are AFK when playing her, they you are probably playing tourist, just sitting behind the adc, making him 1v2 and struggle to get onto his cs. Not cool bro. sitting behind adc = afk shielding and Q poking sitting by the adc = get hurt and afk recalling and getting back into lane being in front of adc = afk death timer, but that W poke was definitely worth "zoning off enemy harrassers and great for disengaging" = standing behind the adc "zoning off enemy harrassers and great for disengaging" = no damage, no hard engagement, and she dies in 1 second. furthermore the enemy can simply reengage especially those that has multiple dashes and other means of mobility
: It is actually possible to play a harassing annoying Janna in lane and fall back to defense / disengage later.
> [{quoted}](name=Dancing Foxx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1FXagWYV,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-09-06T14:11:16.374+0000) > > It is actually possible to play a harassing annoying Janna in lane and fall back to defense / disengage later. it's also aCtUaLlY pOsSiBlE to play otherwise, more likely even when considering matchups
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narakyu (NA)
: i actually enjoy this game
I agree that League is still enjoyable in certain aspects, but their blue essence system sucks. Instead of earning for playing every game like the old IP system, you earn it once every 20 hours. Even if you earn daily, it is only 50 blue essence, which would take 9 days just to buy the cheapest champion in the shop (which is 450 BE). "oh but wait-- don't you get champion shards which gives you 50% off of what you would spend blue essence in the shop?" I got 2 big reasons why champion shards are no excuse for removing the old earning system: 1. you get a shard each time your account levels up, and the rate of leveling up can be one per day if you play a couple of games per day or over 40 games per day. it can take a long time. 2. if you do manage to get champion shards in a short amount of time, good job. However, rewards are unreliable and not fair. face the fact that you are more likely to get seven 450 BE champion shards in a row than a single 6300 BE champion shard (I have 7 singed shards plus 5 spent on level 7 mastery Singed and the only 6300 shard I got was Zed, which I already had). I believe it is how Rito programmers implement a lower chance for big rewards.
: WHO IS SANTA 2017?????????????
https://youtu.be/GO4d-47pMFU
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: I'm pretty sure Thresh doesn't hate Lucian, I don't think he even gives a shit. It's more Lucian hates Thresh. Also, Shen has more of a reason to be angry at Zed, and same with Graves.
Thresh hates Lucian cause Lucian stole Thresh's bike.
: {{champion:17}} Who dares step in my domain. {{champion:105}} It is I Fizz. {{champion:17}} You. First to challenge my spot as leagues most annoying champion and now you come here to take my spot as the bunny lord. {{champion:105}} You knew this would come for my annoyance levels have surpass your own. {{champion:17}} Well then I guess it's time for you to die. Then they engaged in an epic battle I'm too lazy to actually wright in detail. {{champion:17}} You fight well, but not well enough! *cracks Fizz's kneecaps if he has any* {{champion:105}} Ah! At least I'm used in the lcs. *pokes Teemo's eyes* {{champion:17}} Don't you get it you can never defeat me for I am- {{champion:105}} Your not my dad. {{champion:17}} What no I'm your- {{champion:105}} Your not my mom either. {{champion:17}} No I'm your Uncle. {{champion:105}} *Gasp* {{champion:17}} Twice removed. {{champion:105}} Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. {{champion:17}} Oh get over it like I want you to be my nephew. {{champion:105}} Time to end this. *throws sentient carrot at Teemo* {{champion:17}} What the- *gets eaten by a demon bunny* {{champion:105}} Now I shall take the throne and rule Easter forever! {{champion:29}} You realize it's the middle of August right. {{champion:105}} Dang it!
but you can't poke Teemo's eyes... they're always closed {{champion:17}}
Rockman (NA)
: you favorited him in champ select
> [{quoted}](name=Rockman,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VEVcOX9s,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-15T00:52:17.941+0000) > > you favorited him in champ select thanks. can u tell me how to unfavorite? i didn't even know u can do that ecks dee
: I believe that means you have him as a favorite
> [{quoted}](name=L Rayquaza,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VEVcOX9s,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-12-15T00:52:50.993+0000) > > I believe that means you have him as a favorite weird, i don't remember favoriting him, or even how. lol i must have when i was toying with the client. thanks
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Verxint (NA)
: Yeah, and your statement is inaccurate when you say it's impossible to run from Darius. He's one of the most easily kited champions in the game. >It is also other champions that depended on the old rune and mastery system. Singed has not seen a drop in performance with the new runes. Darius has. That is why Darius got buffs. >no one but Singed mains play him nowadays, and the amount of Singed mains are few, meaning it would only be a matter of time before Singed's win rate decreases. This is really strange logic - if he's hurting from the changes, it would not take time for that to be reflected. Why would a lower popularity mean it takes longer for his winrate to change? There's still more than enough raw data that if he were suffering for the rune changes, it would be evident.
>one of the most easily kited champions in the game I've played as Darius, and he _is_ an easily kited champion against champions like an ADC if the ADC is good and uses their mobility mechanics effectively (if any), if they haven't been caught in Darius's melee range in the first place, especially before Darius buys his vital movement speed items like the Black Cleaver{{item:3071}} and Dead Man's Plate {{item:3742}} as I had enlisted in the main discussion, not to mention before he can buy boots and use the new Predator mastery . So unless Darius _by any means_ caught someone within his E pull range, you would have a difficult time escaping his CC and the extra movement speed Black Cleaver {{item:3071}} gives Darius from the passive bleeding, thus the meaning behind my phrase, "can't run from him". And we can go on and on again about how I'm not **exactly** _accurate_ at a certain extent and in a specific situation, or how we can go on and on about your humble explanations on why Darius needs the buff, but the main point behind me rambling on about Darius's glorious power is **not **that Darius shouldn't get buffed-- I don't care if he gets another one mostly because it's more reason for me to play Darius more-- but that he shouldn't be the only one.
Verxint (NA)
: Darius had a significant win rate drop with the new runes. Singed did not. Stop making false comparisons. > [{quoted}](name=PoopyMcPooppile,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zEvQTyhG,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-12-07T18:27:31.353+0000) > > Have you seen Singed? I sure have. All he needs is a Liandry's Torment {{item:3151}} and full tank build {{item:3075}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3742}} , and he can take on 5 people without having any dents on his health bar. You can't run from him because of his superior movement speed and flip, and you can't fight him because he can damage you while running away and can't die. Even if you manage to escape with say 5-10% health, his poison will continue to hurt you and slow from his Rylai's. See, I too can make hyperbolic and inaccurate statements
i find this comment funny, but one important difference between my "false" comparison and yours is that with the Singed build you have enlisted, Singed would not do much damage. no one but Singed mains play him nowadays, and the amount of Singed mains are few, meaning it would only be a matter of time before Singed's win rate decreases. And it's not just Singed, it is also other champions that depended on the old rune and mastery system. Singed was focused as an example, I'm pretty sure there are greater examples out there.
Sujiren (EUW)
: Loosing attack speed quints also hurt him, since his base attack speed and its growth is one of the worst in the game. No fervor and no attack speed ment that Darius kill pressure in lane was basically non existent, since he relies on getting 5 stacks asap, and it became that much harder without attack speed.Once the grasp change happens on next patch he should be in a soild spot though.
I agree Darius's attack speed growth is one of the worse, but his lane pressure still hasn't change much especially in the early game when his attack speed is the closest to everyone else's. Bleed duration isn't really that short; it lasts for quite a long time. So while he can add on to the stack by poking with Q per autoattack, you would have to avoid taking in any more passive stacks by avoiding him and waiting until the stack duration disappears, while he dominates in CS-taking. Later on in the laning phase, his slows and autoattack-procs in between walking and ability usage would make up for his lack of attack speed growth. Plus his autoattack resets when he uses his W, and W has a relatively short cooldown. Most importantly, this discussion isn't mainly about how overpowered Darius is, it's about the lack of buff attention other champions are receiving. I don't care if Darius gets another buff, just as long as other champions affected by the new runes system are at least getting one too.
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: Learn More: Worlds 2017 Missions and Loot
but when do you stop giving out missions. i have 95 tokens and im waiting for that extra 5 token reward to get legacy skin. if missions stop, ill spend them on keys, and im kind of impatient so... WHEN DO YOU STOP MISSIONS or is the end date sort of this improvised thing, as you keep making up missions as you go on?
: Punches and Plants: A Piltover Police Story
we could use Pick Pocket Twitch's twin... MAFIA TWITCH {{champion:29}}
: Punches and Plants: A Piltover Police Story
NOW WHERE THE HELL IS RIOT SINGED. RIOT SINGED EXIST, PEOPLE!!! {{item:3649}} {{champion:27}} {{item:3649}}
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: {{champion:103}} Oh no my tail is trying to kill me with the power of magic moon beans {{item:3105}} Fear not im here! {{champion:127}} oh no! not the aegis of the legio {{item:3105}} thats right, not one can get past my legio of stardom {{champion:103}} please use your power of stardom on my tails {{item:3105}} yes your tail, i shall stare at your tail, you have a nice tail {{champion:62}} hey, thats my tail {{champion:127}} oh no! monkey man! {{champion:62}} your reign of terror has come to an end exegesis of region lock {{item:3105}} haha, silly monkey man i am the protector of women, no monkey shall touch women of the women tribe {{champion:62}} wait until i have trained {{champion:62}} i have now trained {{champion:127}} oh no! monkey man has trained! {{item:3105}} I AM DEFEATED! {{champion:103}} you saved me monkey man. please kiss me {{champion:62}} no {{champion:103}} ok {{champion:127}} the end
LMAO this is so anti-quality that it is making me laugh. thumbs up for that. (u kids better realize he's bad on purpose for the sake of satire)
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: Don your aprons and fire up the ovens!
Olaf looks like that host from Hell's Kitchen.{{summoner:14}} {{item:3751}}
RhaumX (NA)
: This idea is far too much of a time sink. Some of us actually have jobs we need to be at. And LOL is already a time sink.
boi, i already calculated this problem so i thoguht up of another example after making the first example: to advance to level 8, you have to acquire three S grades within 5 games.
Swegmec (NA)
: Are you TRYING to destroy the future of mastery? It would be bullshit to set a time limit. With the difficulty of S rank to attain, there's no way someone could get 3 in 5 days, unless they played 24/7. Even with the flawed Level 6 and 7 masteries I can go at my own pace.
boi, i already calculated this problem so i thoguht up of another example after making the first example: to advance to level 8, you have to acquire three S grades within 5 games.
: Yeah I'd rather they just fix DQ as a whole. Like the que times are ridiculous, even when playing normals
instead of going mid/top and waiting for 8 minutes.... WHY NOT go fill/support <------only 5-10 seconds {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: Earn ranked emblems starting today
BOI, if u dont want a 5minute que, then stop picking mid/top and get fill/support <---------only 5-10 second wait {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
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: Riot ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? 2 GAME 4 AFK IN MY TEAM? WTF?
pls, i afk 2 bot games (not in a row, within a week) and got 20-min afk buster for 5 ques
Shaydys (NA)
: {{champion:223}} and {{champion:19}} approved :)
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: Hand out pain like candy eggs with Cottontail Fizz
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: Bilgewater: Burning Tides sails over the horizon
{{champion:17}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:74}} do an aram for Bandle city
: Champion Update: Gangplank
WTFFFFFFFFFFFF GANGPLANK DOEST LAUGH WHEN HE ULTS??? WTF IS THIS. IT JUST MAKES HIS ULT LESS FUN AND SCARY TO USE!!!! IMA KILL MYSELF NOW
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: Checked your match, and she had TP, so I can only assume that's what it was.
unless the tp looks like a recall
: Dark Horses: Top Lane Urgot
STOP REVEALING MY {{champion:6}} 'S SECRET. STOP THIS PAGE. THEN EVERYONE WILL PLAY {{champion:6}} AND THEN HE'LL BE VIRAL AND THEN I WONT BE ABLE TO PLAY {{champion:6}} MID. SHUUUT UPPP.

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