: Literally go to walmart buy anything with a modern i5 or i7 in it... stick that PSU and GPU in it... you'll run anything on the market at reasonable settings at 60fps+ at 1080p Stop wasting cash on PC's buying crap you don't need. I've got $450 in my box and it runs games like PUBG/ARK just fine... few year old i5 with a 1060 in it.
> [{quoted}](name=The Bad Touch,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-07-21T17:07:19.447+0000) > > Literally go to walmart buy anything with a modern i5 or i7 in it... stick that PSU and GPU in it... you'll run anything on the market at reasonable settings at 60fps+ at 1080p > > Stop wasting cash on PC's buying crap you don't need. > > I've got $450 in my box and it runs games like PUBG/ARK just fine... few year old i5 with a 1060 in it. Wow no. Actually, My computer died a few years ago, and I went into a panic, like any normal person would, and then bought a comp from walmart. 300$ and I figured. How bad can it be? Bad bro. Bad.
Sohleks (NA)
: If you are going with intel cpu you should get a 6th or 7th gen i7 for cheap or an 8th gen i5. Buying a 4 core 4 thread for a gaming PC is slightly dated and it will be holding you back a couple years from now or even now actually. (I'm seeing there are no deals on 6th or 7th gen intel. so nvm. Get 8th gen pls) With no mention of cooler anywhere it sounds like you intend to use the intel stock cooler. Those things are the literal worst. Do yourself a favor and at least get [this cpu cooler](https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103107&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=) . It keeps my i5 4460 very cool under full load on "silent" fan curve. With lower temp cpu either it can stay boosted longer or you could set slower fan curves which makes your computer less noisier. 9.99 is very cheap for a cpu cooler. For a more mid range cooler I would recommend the [cryorig h7](https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V4FU2360). It's good enough for any cpu at stock or light overclocks. A tad overkill on an i5. Honestly the AMD cpus were garbage with the a10/fx bulldozer piledriver crap, but the latest ryzen ones are extremely competent now especially on a budget. The other week they had ryzen 7 1700x for sale for 188$. That's an 8 core 16 threaded cpu. But that was during July competing with amazon prime day sales. IF you consider amd for a moment you want to look at the ryzen 5/ryzen 7s. Those 6 or 8 core cpus (with double the threads). Also, they come with more competent stock cpu coolers than what intel provides. Still fine to replace them though. Not saying you need to but all Ryzen cpus can be overclocked on any "50" or "70" motherboard (not the 20 stuff). The IPC "instructions per cycle" are a bit lower than intel, so they are a bit less on equal gigahertz but it's made up by the fact you get 12 threads on a budget. And while clock speed is king right now for pushing framerate particularly on older games the ryzens perform more than adequately and intensive games in the future or even now will be wanting that "widened workload." ALSO, since this is for gaming if you probably don't want to be messing with your cpu clock rates you will want to look at the X rated ryzens. Those are sold at higher clock rates. The motherboard you get will depend on what cpu you have. Intel and AMD use different boards. 6th gen intel apparently go into h110, b250, or z270 motherboard. From what I can see 6th gen intel cpus are depreciated out of the market and there's no deals so skip those. They are after all several years old. 7th gen intel goes into. Actually the same boards. Intel historically has done cpu 2 generations per set of boards. But I see 7th gens are also not a good value. So for intel you want 8th gen. These were a big jump anyways. For intel I highly recommend the 8600 for 216$. These go into z370, b350 and h310 motherboards. The 310 are the bare bones budget variety. The 350 the mid range. A little nicer. Not actually very much more expensive last I checked. The z370 are what you need if you want to overclock the k variant intel cpu. You need both a K variant and a z370 to overclock the intel clock modifier. It's not really worth it if you have other priorities. But in general the higher end motherboards use nicer components rated to last longer, you can plug in more stuff to them, have their bios more optimized for overclocking. And look subjectively nicer. Stuff you don't need at all to be happy with your computer. I recommend you use https://pcpartpicker.com/ to assist you in assembling your choice parts! I'm tired out now.
I've had a few beers, but I feel you man. I like the links. Thank you. Ill read this later.
Nsane (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-21T13:28:42.475+0000) > > You likely can use the same case, saving yourself a little money. Depends. Assuming it was a pre-built system, if it was from Dell or any of the bigger manufacturers, they usually use a proprietary form-factor case/MB.
> [{quoted}](name=Nsane,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-07-21T15:21:13.420+0000) > > Depends. Assuming it was a pre-built system, if it was from Dell or any of the bigger manufacturers, they usually use a proprietary form-factor case/MB. The one I have is a Dell. It was a 1200$ tower 10 years ago when I bought it. Studio XPS. So yeah, It probably will not fit new stuff.... :(
Deneviel (EUW)
: .... if you are not intrested in OC then i would suggest the following build: Case: Sharkoon TG5 .... Cool, Good Airflow, Cheap MOBO: ASROCK B360 pro4 sock 1151 ... Cheapest ... but you can also see some Aorus for just few more $ CPU: i5-8600 .... This is the answer of Intel to AMD's Ryzen series and it totally rocks considering it's price Ram: 16GB Trident or Ripjaws 3400 .... pick the one you can find in your budget with the lowest CL ( The Best would be cl 13/14 - 3400 - under 200$ ) PSU: change it if it's not from the TX series ..... the TX550M should do the work and it's very cheap HD: just pick the cheapest around SSD ( you need this if you want a gaming PC ): A Samsung 860 EVO 250 GB should do for now GPU: you can go with the EVGA 960Ti **for now **... wait for the new NVIDIA GPU to be released ( which should happen quite soon ) and grab a 1160 ( 2060 ) or a 1170 ( 2070 ) as soon as you can And you will want to change the monitor sooner or later.
I was with you until the PSU. What is PSU?
: > [{quoted}](name=Deneviel,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-07-21T14:43:13.478+0000) > > .... > > if you are not intrested in OC then i would suggest the following build: > > Case: Sharkoon TG5 .... Cool, Good Airflow, Cheap > MOBO: ASROCK B360 pro4 sock 1151 ... Cheapest ... but you can also see some Aorus for just few more $ > CPU: i5-8600 .... This is the answer of Intel to AMD's Ryzen series and it totally rocks considering it's price > Ram: 16GB Triton or Ripjaws 3400 .... pick the one you can find in your budget with the lowest CL ( The Best would be cl 13 - 3400 - under 200$ ) > > PSU: change it if it's not from the TX series ..... the TX550M should do the work and it's very cheap > > HD: just pick the cheapest around > SSD ( you need this if you want a gaming PC ): A Samsung 860 EVO 250 GB should do for now > > GPU: you can go with the EVGA 960Ti for now ... whait for the new NVIDIA GPU to be released ( wich should be happen quite soon ) and grab a 1160 ( 2060 ) or a 1170 ( 2070 ) as soon as you can > > Ans you will want to change the monitor sooner or later. Nice.
> [{quoted}](name=Poro Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-07-21T14:48:14.026+0000) > > Nice. Actually, I said Nice to be funny, but thank you for your input. It seems like you know your shit.
Deneviel (EUW)
: .... if you are not intrested in OC then i would suggest the following build: Case: Sharkoon TG5 .... Cool, Good Airflow, Cheap MOBO: ASROCK B360 pro4 sock 1151 ... Cheapest ... but you can also see some Aorus for just few more $ CPU: i5-8600 .... This is the answer of Intel to AMD's Ryzen series and it totally rocks considering it's price Ram: 16GB Trident or Ripjaws 3400 .... pick the one you can find in your budget with the lowest CL ( The Best would be cl 13/14 - 3400 - under 200$ ) PSU: change it if it's not from the TX series ..... the TX550M should do the work and it's very cheap HD: just pick the cheapest around SSD ( you need this if you want a gaming PC ): A Samsung 860 EVO 250 GB should do for now GPU: you can go with the EVGA 960Ti **for now **... wait for the new NVIDIA GPU to be released ( which should happen quite soon ) and grab a 1160 ( 2060 ) or a 1170 ( 2070 ) as soon as you can And you will want to change the monitor sooner or later.
> [{quoted}](name=Deneviel,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-07-21T14:43:13.478+0000) > > .... > > if you are not intrested in OC then i would suggest the following build: > > Case: Sharkoon TG5 .... Cool, Good Airflow, Cheap > MOBO: ASROCK B360 pro4 sock 1151 ... Cheapest ... but you can also see some Aorus for just few more $ > CPU: i5-8600 .... This is the answer of Intel to AMD's Ryzen series and it totally rocks considering it's price > Ram: 16GB Triton or Ripjaws 3400 .... pick the one you can find in your budget with the lowest CL ( The Best would be cl 13 - 3400 - under 200$ ) > > PSU: change it if it's not from the TX series ..... the TX550M should do the work and it's very cheap > > HD: just pick the cheapest around > SSD ( you need this if you want a gaming PC ): A Samsung 860 EVO 250 GB should do for now > > GPU: you can go with the EVGA 960Ti for now ... whait for the new NVIDIA GPU to be released ( wich should be happen quite soon ) and grab a 1160 ( 2060 ) or a 1170 ( 2070 ) as soon as you can > > Ans you will want to change the monitor sooner or later. Nice.
: Building A Computer! Nerds Please Help!
To be honest, I love you guys, but so far, not a single person, has brought a single piece of usable information. I legit want people to suggest a motherboard. Types of ram please, the only thing I do know, is I want a intel. You guys have been great, but come on, I'm a total noob with brand names. WHat do I buy?
: > [{quoted}](name=Poro Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-21T14:24:47.261+0000) > > Hmm, ok. Fortunately, I have no money right now, so I cannot mis-spend it. > > But I like your input. BRAVO GOOD SIR! Well, plan on having about $400-500 squared away by october. That's probably when the 1170s and 1160s will drop. They'll probably be $300-400, but with how GPU prices have been I wouldn't be surprised if they're bumped up a bit.
> [{quoted}](name=A Swarm of Koala,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-21T14:28:59.155+0000) > > Well, plan on having about $400-500 squared away by october. That's probably when the 1170s and 1160s will drop. They'll probably be $300-400, but with how GPU prices have been I wouldn't be surprised if they're bumped up a bit. I like what your saying, But I will be the guy, buying the 1080ti on sale :p Because it ain't the shit no more. I will always be that guy, who buys last years thing on sale.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Poro Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-07-21T14:15:06.897+0000) > > Thank you! When I sober up, I am gonna read what u said. > > What is Mobo? > > What is 1070? > > If you mean GPU, I am saving for the 1080Ti > > The 1080Ti (I think it is called) IS THE SHIT! Mobo = motherbord. Read motherboard instruction to see what ram and cpu fits it. I5 is intel. Since u wanted to save money i5 is the way to save from i7 otherwise go i7. 1080 is overpriced.. or was.. i upgraded my pc last year. If u can spend more u can build whatever u please
Like I said, I'm gonna use my 960Ti It is the one part of my computer not completely outdated. lol The GPU is the one thing I don't need to buy new.
: > [{quoted}](name=Poro Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-07-21T14:15:06.897+0000) > > Thank you! When I sober up, I am gonna read what u said. > > What is Mobo? > > What is 1070? > > If you mean GPU, I am saving for the 1080Ti > > The 1080Ti (I think it is called) IS THE SHIT! uh, hold off on that. Nvidia is probably going to release the 1100 series soon (they tend to go for late summer for the top tier cards, then late fall for the mid tier), and they sell them at the recommended price, not the price after cryptocurrency miners have gotten their grubby hands on it. You'll likely be able to get a 1170 for half the price of a 1080, and it'll likely be quite a bit better.
> [{quoted}](name=A Swarm of Koala,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-07-21T14:20:23.006+0000) > > uh, hold off on that. Nvidia is probably going to release the 1100 series soon (they tend to go for late summer for the top tier cards, then late fall for the mid tier), and they sell them at the recommended price, not the price after cryptocurrency miners have gotten their grubby hands on it. You'll likely be able to get a 1170 for half the price of a 1080, and it'll likely be quite a bit better. Hmm, ok. Fortunately, I have no money right now, so I cannot mis-spend it. But I like your input. BRAVO GOOD SIR!
: You likely can use the same case, saving yourself a little money. Motherboard will depend on CPU and Case. RAM will depend on motherboard. So, what CPU's are you considering?
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-21T13:28:42.475+0000) > > You likely can use the same case, saving yourself a little money. > > Motherboard will depend on CPU and Case. > > RAM will depend on motherboard. > > So, what CPU's are you considering? I had not even thought of putting a new motherboard in this old case.... Wow. I bet its the same size.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: I5 8-16gb ram Take a good mobo for cpu and ram Save for a 1070 U are good for next5years..
> [{quoted}](name=Shukr4n,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJw1AUuh,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-21T14:09:06.674+0000) > > I5 > 8-16gb ram > Take a good mobo for cpu and ram > Save for a 1070 > > U are good for next5years.. Thank you! When I sober up, I am gonna read what u said. What is Mobo? What is 1070? If you mean GPU, I am saving for the 1080Ti The 1080Ti (I think it is called) IS THE SHIT!
: Building A Computer! Nerds Please Help!
I am an Intel guy. Normally I don't care for brand names, but I like the i7 I'm replacing after 10 years. I want a new gen i7, but i5 or whatever. New new gen, I saw some 4 thousand dollar towers lol, so obviously not that. I THINK what I want, is a 7th gen i5. Should be right in my 500-1000 price range. What u think?
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Mob Piru (NA)
: People get used to the way the game is changing
I have always just enjoyed things in games while they last, knowing it will all change someday. Whenever a game I love comes out with changes, big or small, I look for the good in it.
: How to play Morgana Support?
I sent you a friend request. I would be glad to help you practice bot lane.
: How to play Morgana Support?
When playing bot matches, people just do whatever. Even if you get a lane buddy to support, after a few minutes, they will prolly run off and chase fights. Don't get me wrong, it is a great place to learn your own champ, and skills, but don't expect "real game" type learning.
: Random Bring Back Ascension Thread.
Thank you guys who posted here. I really love the game mode, and wan't it to get as much attention as possible!
SirPurrr (NA)
: We forget how hard the game is
Yeah, I'm in my mid 30s, and been playing about 3 years. Smoked a lot of pot / drank a lot in my life. I'm about as good now, as a 15 year old, who has been playing for a month. Although, I recently quit drinking, and my skills have been improving much faster than usual!
: Akali gaining tower IMMUNITY on a non-ultimate spell is a whole new level of stupid. Unbelievable.
I'm interested to see how it plays out before I have an opinion, but I gotta say, It seems like it could be busted as fuck.
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: What's up with meta recently?
eh, The feeders could probably feed on a more traditional pick just the same. And what is "basic team building" The only constant for years has been an AD marksman bot. The support, jungle, top, and mid have been a mix of many types. From tanks, to squishys, AD, AP, ranged, melee... whatever. Now you just see people saying, "Wow you don't 100% NEED an AD marksman bot lane." The world does not explode. I for one don't like it, when people decide on what works, and look down on other tactics.
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: Only the most fun off meta things here
Aatrox with Glacial Augment Teemo with Glacial Augment, or Hail of Blades Braum with Hail of Blades Janna with Ludens Those off the top of my head. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: It was easy for me to do it for years before I hit diamond. When I was a plat 5 pleb in season 4 I was still able to easily hit g5. In s3 when I finished g1 I was still able to hit g5 no worries ob a smurf. The only season itvwas hard was season 2, my first season, because I had no clue how to play a moba back then. If it takes more than a season to keaen enough to hit g5 you have a learning deficiency. Btw, currently mid diamond in all 3 queses on main, since s5.
To be clear, my point is less about a persons ability to climb, and more about the frustrating journey, and sheer number of games required. You are saying you have always been that magical guy, that flew up the ranks easily, because you don't have "mental deficiency". I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. If it is true, then good for you, but that is not the normal ranked journey for other people.
: > [{quoted}](name=Poro Lord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=11ITpUAi,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-15T17:04:32.231+0000) > > I wanna see your youtube series where you climb from silver to gold "extremely easy". > > I bet after some win streaks you get placed against smurfs, and knocked down a few pegs. > > Unless of course you are like a challenger player. > > Its not really fair to say, "Climbing to gold is easy, you just need challenger skills!" Who said you need challenger skillsto hit gold? Me? No, you, because you are the delusional 1 in this post. I have a 76% win rate on this account that is p3 with d5mmr... you really think I couldn't make a youtube series getting to gold 5? It would take me no more than just the 10 placement games to be gold. If I had a b5 account I would hit gold 5 without a single loss because the games are that incredibly easy at the lower ranks. You need to get over yourself, you are not as good as you think you are.
Ok so you have diamond skills? So basically you are saying "It is easy for me."
: Crazy idea for Glacial Augment keystone
meh I think it is good as a niche keystone few people use. If you make it good enough, every damn champ in the game will be using it. That's not a world I want.
: I honestly wish Mobi boots didn't exist, they're such a noob trap item
Me and my brother used to joke about how to feed the hardest. TP and Mobis are a must have!
: Gold is extremely easy to achieve, regardless of teammates. If you aren't gold then you aren't good enough for it and don't deserve it. Silver is the 2nd easiest rank to 1v9 in.
I wanna see your youtube series where you climb from silver to gold "extremely easy". I bet after some win streaks you get placed against smurfs, and knocked down a few pegs. Unless of course you are like a challenger player. Its not really fair to say, "Climbing to gold is easy, you just need challenger skills!"
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YuuumSenpai (EUNE)
: The new Aatrox genuinly seems a bit broken
As a person with like 100 games new Aatrox, I do think they could remove some power in lane. If you get ahead of opponent, it seems a depressing lane for them. ----------------------------- That being said, his lvl 1 is one time to get an advantage on him. His 20% healing from AD is the passive on his E, and most people take Q lvl 1, so will have zero sustain. You probably wont kill him, but maybe get him down really low. Now when he gets E at lvl 2, he has a choice. He can stay low, and slowly regen from autos, meaning you can maybe go in for a kill. Orrr he can just start spamming Q on the minion wave to quickly get full health, meaning he shoves wave, and is ripe for a lvl 3 gank. ------------------- I would like to point out however, even as a huge lane bully, the champ has weaknesses. Even if you are fed mid-game, you still have a slow telegraphed kit. You can never just pop out of a bush, and burst down a marksman in .2 seconds. It just kinda sucks for the opponent, being bullied so hard in lane. If they can not feed until mid/late game, Aatrox is nothing special in team-fights.
TomiMan7 (EUNE)
: Suggestions about changing Brand to be less oppressive to lane against while making him a better mid
I made a post, and I'll put this here also. I think they are pretty good ideas. ------------------------------- ------------------------------ -------------------------------- Passive - Brand gains 2% max mana every time he kills a unit. Increase spell costs on all spells by 10-20% Now either he can't support, or if he does, he needs to really manage his mana well. Or Idea #2 (The more crazy idea.) Passive - Brand gains 1 AP every time he kills a unit, maximum of ? AP Nerf his base damage, and scaling to compensate, making him rely on good CS to have a strong mid/late game.
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TomiMan7 (EUNE)
: Suggestions about changing Brand to be less oppressive to lane against while making him a better mid
Something like the opposite of Mord experience passive. Weather it is experience nerf, or mana nerf... Just give him a clear reason to want to be alone in lane early game.
co Tamer (NA)
: Teach a friend Quest account (Add this account and complete the quest)
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Odenmaru (NA)
: Infrequent reminder to clean your keyboard
So I took an old keyboard, and just ran the whole thing under hot water. Put a little dish soap, and continued just blasting it with hot water from the tub, while slamming all the keys. Put it on a heater, and waited. For days it did not work at all, or it would just go ikpeqfbv pieqfbuviuqebnv 9-qu[ebfv[bquoqipeunvqeiopfu Then after about 10 days, I tried it again, and it worked like new. Tried same thing on another keyboard, and it did not work again..... it has been a few months, maybe I should try it again.
: You mean like this ? https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/spsot/images/7/76/Mosquito_tfbw.png/revision/latest?cb=20171023001910
Nhifu (NA)
: Can we buff bloodrazor?
Well right now {{champion:11}} is a shit stomper in low elo. I don't wanna see him buffed.
: Is there even a reason to own every champ?
I have them all, and it is nice. There is honestly only 3 or 4 champs I have tried, that I just did not have fun, and did not wan't to continue. 99% of them I enjoy learning to some extent.
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Vhan8765 (NA)
: Honestly, I overall just wish Riot would make Ascension a permanent game mode. Not only does that bring back the Crystal Scar for Hide and Seek but in general it would be nice having a third game mode again. One that didn't have the expectations Summoner's Rift holds and with the ability to actually pick your champion, unlike ARAM. Ascension becoming a permanent game mode would probably be one of the wisest decisions Riot could make.
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: What am I supposed to do against Lucian in lane?
Call the cops. They will arrest him for loitering.
: Ascension coming back?
: Coaching For New Players
I'm more like a casual friend, who will teach you the basics. Maybe hanging out with me, is a better atmosphere for some people. Also to some people 10$ is not a lot of money.
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